Ben Im having come from Buffalo NY I can tell you 45 in Florida feels way colder than elsewhere. The humidity pulls heat from your body way faster. We get a few days a year in the low 20’s and even the teens sometimes, and those suck!
The CVA suspension always seems to have more travel than it realy has. My RKT has only 95 mm on the back and 120 up front, it seems to handle much more than other bikes with similar travel.
Loved the video. I would be interested to see what the cons are of a full sus gravel bike. I live in Virginia and often ride the fire (forest service) roads in the Jefferson National Forest and they can get fairly gnarly. That bike looks like a good contender to ride the gravel that crisscrosses the Blue Ridge Parkway. Looking forward to your next update! Thanx
Great video as always. Take the MCR on a gravel race. I'm interested if it's more of a touring/ long distance bike or is efficient enough on punchy climbs during a race.
I mean it’s only logical. Unless a surface is absolutely smooth, it makes sense to keep the rider and bike moving forward instead of up and down, and keep the tires in contact with the surface, for handling/efficiency and fatigue. Maybe we will see a road bike with a tiny bit of suspension one day... say maybe 15mm of lightweight aero suspension to soak up the tiny variations in the surface that are beyond what the tire deflection and frame flex take up?
Yesterday I test rode a 2020 Specialized Diverge Expert (70 of 90 km on gravel), which features the updated FS 1.5 system. To me the Future Shock is great to have over corrugations and broken asphalt (along with the CG-R post). It's not there for potholes, or anything over about 20 mm in amplitude. It's very responsive (under damped) so it's more there for vibration control than for any big hits (useless for that). I found due to the lack of damping the Diverge was superior to my hardtail over gravel roads. It does its job really well (F1.5 version) and you can tell when you can no longer put the power down to ride through corrugations but your contact points (seat and bars) are totally comfortable. To not have to rely upon bigger tyres or lower pressures (i.e. dampening from the tyre) is great. It allows one to have higher pressures for better rolling resistance. My only beef with the bike was the stack height being too high (bar height really). But a -17° stem and regular drop bars would alleviate some of that. When sprinting, I couldn't detect suspension movement (bars are your only point of reference) - the geometry of the bike had a much larger effect than the future shock. In summary, my experience with the FS was the tech is most useful, and definitely not a gimmick, very pleased! The MCR9 looks great but maybe designed more towards the off-road end of the spectrum than say a Diverge.
Just waiting for one of these to win a less technical XC race haha. Of course XC bikes have been getting beefier suspension and dropper posts and such as XC races have been getting more technical.
Clint--I just bought a new 2019 bought a Rocky Mountain Instinct 90 BC edition and selling the stock Race face ARC 30 wheels, naturally they are boost, 29 inch and 370 hub,, XD driver--wheels are NEW and never even been on the tar in case you or someone looking for a back-up set of wheels
Idk about putting the shock BEHIND the front triangle... This looks like maintenance hell really. I guess just iterating on a working design wouldnt have been flashy enough.
Yo Clint bro she a keeper .. but i would change to flat bars and the brakes to some hope, it help with the swag. I love how smooth she is. The one evil came out with look slick too.
I'll be comparing this bike to the RLT in the next month or two. That would be a pretty fair comparison of how it compares to the Revolt as well. It's obviously more comfortable than both but I'll be checking the speed comparison too.
I’ll be talking about that later on as I get into more reviews. But I think it is if you need more comfort. Just like a mountain bike. Is a full suspension trail bike worth the added weight for me? Yep.
It's great to see this technology, however does this not defeat the purpose of a gravel bike? What I mean is this is a XC bike with drop bars essentially right. We have both bikes gravel and XC , I'd rather just run my XC bike and enjoy my SID Forks for this lol
Hmmm... Why don't just use a light MTB? I mean MTB with Drop Bars also exist since the early nineties. I don't know why one should over 8k bucks on this...
@@ClintGibbs Thanks for the answer! I still wouldn't find use for this, especially not for that price... But hey, taste is different with everybody. I like your videos, keep up the good work! Greetings from Germany 😁
A lot more dangerous altering between the road shoulder and grass too, than riding consistent in the center lane.... CyclingSavvy 101: Motorists aren't going to see you and use caution if you're not in their direct line of sight.
I got my MCR a couple of months. Agree on your review 100 percent
"Cold out" = 45 degrees. Oh Florida, you don't know how lucky you are!
45 and sunny...I’m in my shorts
@@johnboris8375 Ditto. My buddies in Socal are even worse. 55 degrees? I need a wool cap and base layer!
20 Celsius is cold? try riding in zero and im not eaven talking about madlads in -20 once i saw guy on bike in -40
@@icewallowcum856 Who said 20 celsius?
Ben Im having come from Buffalo NY I can tell you 45 in Florida feels way colder than elsewhere. The humidity pulls heat from your body way faster. We get a few days a year in the low 20’s and even the teens sometimes, and those suck!
The CVA suspension always seems to have more travel than it realy has. My RKT has only 95 mm on the back and 120 up front, it seems to handle much more than other bikes with similar travel.
Agree
It would be interesting to see how this compares to the Salsa Cutthroat with 80mm front suspension and larger 29x2.5 tires.
Loved the video. I would be interested to see what the cons are of a full sus gravel bike. I live in Virginia and often ride the fire (forest service) roads in the Jefferson National Forest and they can get fairly gnarly. That bike looks like a good contender to ride the gravel that crisscrosses the Blue Ridge Parkway. Looking forward to your next update! Thanx
I see the benefit of the suspension, It will be interesting to see how it holds up over this year.
Riding this time of year... a dream
Thanks for the review. That suspension seems to perform much better than high volume 650b tires would.
I've spoken to a couple MCR folks out here in the San Diego area and it seems like it really does a good job for the terrain here.
Im interested in how your steel Niner felt compared to the last few Gravel bikes you have road.
Great video as always. Take the MCR on a gravel race. I'm interested if it's more of a touring/ long distance bike or is efficient enough on punchy climbs during a race.
Did that last weekend. That video is coming up!
I mean it’s only logical. Unless a surface is absolutely smooth, it makes sense to keep the rider and bike moving forward instead of up and down, and keep the tires in contact with the surface, for handling/efficiency and fatigue. Maybe we will see a road bike with a tiny bit of suspension one day... say maybe 15mm of lightweight aero suspension to soak up the tiny variations in the surface that are beyond what the tire deflection and frame flex take up?
Great review. Haters will hate... I love my MCR!!!
Yesterday I test rode a 2020 Specialized Diverge Expert (70 of 90 km on gravel), which features the updated FS 1.5 system. To me the Future Shock is great to have over corrugations and broken asphalt (along with the CG-R post). It's not there for potholes, or anything over about 20 mm in amplitude. It's very responsive (under damped) so it's more there for vibration control than for any big hits (useless for that). I found due to the lack of damping the Diverge was superior to my hardtail over gravel roads. It does its job really well (F1.5 version) and you can tell when you can no longer put the power down to ride through corrugations but your contact points (seat and bars) are totally comfortable. To not have to rely upon bigger tyres or lower pressures (i.e. dampening from the tyre) is great. It allows one to have higher pressures for better rolling resistance. My only beef with the bike was the stack height being too high (bar height really). But a -17° stem and regular drop bars would alleviate some of that. When sprinting, I couldn't detect suspension movement (bars are your only point of reference) - the geometry of the bike had a much larger effect than the future shock. In summary, my experience with the FS was the tech is most useful, and definitely not a gimmick, very pleased!
The MCR9 looks great but maybe designed more towards the off-road end of the spectrum than say a Diverge.
That was fun to watch. Cool bike!
Just waiting for one of these to win a less technical XC race haha. Of course XC bikes have been getting beefier suspension and dropper posts and such as XC races have been getting more technical.
Drop bars are banned in MTB.
You need to stop! I want one now.
Love mine
Thanks for sharing!
Clint--I just bought a new 2019 bought a Rocky Mountain Instinct 90 BC edition and selling the stock Race face ARC 30 wheels, naturally they are boost, 29 inch and 370 hub,, XD driver--wheels are NEW and never even been on the tar in case you or someone looking for a back-up set of wheels
going to the grass when motorist are coming gives drivers the impression that we belong there
That's just a matter of I really don't trust anybody behind the wheel today. Cell phones have changed the landscape.
Idk about putting the shock BEHIND the front triangle... This looks like maintenance hell really. I guess just iterating on a working design wouldnt have been flashy enough.
What are your recommendations for a new XT 12 speed 1x setup. What chainring size and what cassette 10-45 or 10-51?
Are there any other full suspension gravel bikes?
Yo Clint bro she a keeper .. but i would change to flat bars and the brakes to some hope, it help with the swag. I love how smooth she is. The one evil came out with look slick too.
The flared bars make flat bars unnecessary
@@fastleopard1 its my swag !
Can you make a vedio on the suspension absorbing the small bumps.
Good idea.
@@ClintGibbs
if you do it than plz give me shouout
Mine absorbs small bumps and leads to less fatigue
how do you like the handlebars?
I REALLY like the bars Niner uses on their gravel bikes. Just the right amount of flare. Standard road bike drop bars feel weird now.
A Rockshox RS1 reduced to 40mm travel would look so much better on a gravel bike. Would like to see RS do it.
Good video. Like these on bike commentaries. What is your video and audio set up, sounds and looks good.
Any extra weight with suspension compared to the other gravel bikes you tried?
Sounds like you like it.
i love this bike
Hello Clint, how does that compare to the Giant Revolt 0.??? Thanks
I'll be comparing this bike to the RLT in the next month or two. That would be a pretty fair comparison of how it compares to the Revolt as well. It's obviously more comfortable than both but I'll be checking the speed comparison too.
this is one is 5k and the revolt 105 is 2k :P
@@luisrauldefreitas the Revolt pro 0 is 5,500
Does it bottom out when you bunny hop it? I imagine if the small bump sensitivity is so good it has to blow through the travel pretty quickly?
Correct
On the cut through descent, how does it feel on the hands/arms? Could you do a kilometre descent...?
Should have waited to the end, looking forward to a bigger descent.
😁 45°F, that’s the temp. we start putting on the spring kit.
Lol. My nose starts running when it's below 65. But if we were not cold weather wimps we would die in the summer.
My wallet hurts watching this...
Me wants one!
When the buck yard jumps vid coming out
The thing keeps growing in size. We're almost done.
Clint, do you think having just the front suspension would get you most of the "bump erasing?" Perhaps the rear suspension is unnecessary complexity
When sitting and spinning on a gravel bike 70% of your weight is biased towards the rear so the rear shock really does improve the comfort.
Rear suspension is handy. I lock out my front when climbing. Middle position other. I can ride single track with rear suspension open
What state are you in? I see that by the trees and soil, you're somewhere in the deep Southeast.
North Florida
@@ClintGibbs the only hills in Florida or far south Georgia are worn out sand dunes that have been reforested. 😂 You're channel is very helpful.
Clint, what’s the difference in weight between and your RLT? Thx.
About 3 pounds
Clint Gibbs that’s it?? Impressive.
So the question is it worth the added weight?
and added cost
I’ll be talking about that later on as I get into more reviews. But I think it is if you need more comfort. Just like a mountain bike. Is a full suspension trail bike worth the added weight for me? Yep.
@@ClintGibbs very good point. And agree
Not sure on that one yet. It feels fast because you stay engaged to the terrain
What was the tire pressures at?
25 rear, 23 front
In which unit? PSI?
@@christophweber6894 yes, psi
interesting bike
It's great to see this technology, however does this not defeat the purpose of a gravel bike? What I mean is this is a XC bike with drop bars essentially right. We have both bikes gravel and XC , I'd rather just run my XC bike and enjoy my SID Forks for this lol
Hmmm... Why don't just use a light MTB?
I mean MTB with Drop Bars also exist since the early nineties. I don't know why one should over 8k bucks on this...
Suspension is tuned noticably different than a MTB. And you get mounts for frame bags.
@@ClintGibbs Thanks for the answer!
I still wouldn't find use for this, especially not for that price... But hey, taste is different with everybody.
I like your videos, keep up the good work!
Greetings from Germany 😁
This is a gravel bike. I compare it to my Diverge. Much smoother but, the weight is more
take the lane, don't let cars run you off the road. They can wait.
The cars weren’t running him off the road. He was choosing to ride in the grass for a bigger margin of error.
haaaiil NO..i wont go in the grass..we are allowed on the road and im gonna use my 3ft of it lol..
A lot more dangerous altering between the road shoulder and grass too, than riding consistent in the center lane.... CyclingSavvy 101: Motorists aren't going to see you and use caution if you're not in their direct line of sight.
@@cup_and_cone yep..exactly
Squish
Nice bike lane... LOL... total sketch
First
There does not seem to be much respect for cyclists in some states. I noticed a huge difference in how I was treated in CA vs. PA.
Which one was better?
@@ClintGibbs CA has been much better. There seems to be more cyclists out here so maybe that is why.