0:00 First step is always connect BMS B(-) to the battery (-) before connecting any other wires to the BMS. 0:18 I use an alligator clip to temporarily hold the ANT B- to battery (-). 0:31 Next find the balance lead connector with the black (-) wire and connect it to the ANT. 1:10 Last wire to connect before starting the ANT is the connector with the red wire. Connecting red wire before any ground wire can permanently damage the BMS. 1:40 for ANT with tiny red and black wires (the worst type), you need a 3v-5v power source to jump start it at this stage. You can also boot any BMS by connecting the charger. 1:49 you will hear a beep when the ANT boots up and see a flashing light showing Bluetooth is on. 2:35 now you can connect the ANT app to the ANT BMS 2:48 we can see bricks 1-12 are all still perfectly balanced, meaning there is no abnormal self-discharge while sitting. But #13 is 0.004v lower. 2:54 0.004v drop over 3 months is nothing to be alarmed over, but it is why EVERY bms will try to do some balancing maintenance. 3:03 cheap dumb BMS will try to do balancing maintenance each time you fully charge the pack and leave the charger plugged in for a while after the light turns green. 3:13 The ANT can be set to balance automatically or it can be manually initiated and will balance all bricks to within 0.000v. 3:29 I will not start an Autobalancing session right now, I will wait until I charge it to about 4.15v/cell and then balance it.
@ , unfortunately this 7s-16s model only comes with 2 temperature sensors and it has the worst boot wires (red + black) so you need a battery to boot it if you don’t have your charger nearby and you accidentally turn it off. Lol. The better ANT have 4 temperature sensors and two small black wires for booting that only needs momentarily switch to boot up the ANT and Bluetooth. Not sure about tire length because the ANT by itself has no idea what the tire is doing. It only knows about the battery. Which set of parameters includes tire length?
@ I just found this in Endless Sphere: “TireLength: measure your tire circumference and the BMS will use this value to calculate speed and distances. If you want to use this function you'll need to derivate a wire from one of the hall sensors to the BMS. It's pretty convenient and it works well, so it's a nice thing to have.” I have no idea where you can input the hall sensor signal, but assuming you did connect it, then it would need tire Length (probably circumference) and Pulse value so it knee how many times that hall sensor has to change from high to low to make one revolution. But I never dug into it. To use it with a removable battery like I have you need a special charging plug with some communication ports. Mine is just the standard EIC 320 rice cooker plug. Lol
@@Bitathisandthat yes, I was surprised how well balanced it stayed while in storage for 3 months. Only brick #13 had some discharge but 0.004v over 3 months is probably nothing to worry about. If it was 0.004v per day, thats a different story. Lol I’m preparing to use this pack and duct tape it to my VESC ebike and see if 13s5p 18650 can do significantly better than the original 10s4p. I think the 48v without field weakening is going to give me the speed I want (45 kph) and keep cruise amps within reason. Eventually through various experiments I can see if this stock motor is sufficient, or if I need the 2000w motor which needs a lot more amps. Ultimately I want a battery inside the 60mm diameter frame that can get me 0-45 kph with reasonable acceleration. The original battery doesn’t. Lol
@@imho7250 i need ti start buying bms's with bluetooth in them..im going to put a bigger bms in my 13s 9p battery soon as i would like to add more power as its only got a 60amp bms in it atm. does your bike not do 50ks atm??..your running a decent size controller arent you?? as my 1000watt wheel does 62ks i mat have asked this question b4...im unsure...lol I like watching your videos
@@Bitathisandthat yes. After learning about Bluetooth BMS and using one on the 20s6p 32700 LiFePO4 battery I made, I will never use any BMS without Bluetooth if at all possible to get it. Size and power is the big problem. This one is very compact and available in 40a/100a or 80a/200a. It’s perfect for my old ebike battery box but too big for my 60mm tube frame so I need a different solution. Lucky VESC controllers with CAN BUS will work with tiny “charge only” bms with canbus, and the bms tells the controller to throttle back instead of slamming the discharge port shut. And in the vesc app you can see what each brick voltage is. This battery in this video had a cell with a CID that popped but it wasn’t easily identifiable with the original bms. As soon as I installed the ANT it was very obvious one brick had a problem, and I found the dead cell and replaced it and the battery has been working fine ever since. But it’s only 5a/cell continuous. Ampace just released a JP30 18650 cell which appears to put the Molicel P30B in the 💩 pile. Lol. But I haven’t seen them for sale yet. I have to wait for Mooch or one of the testers to test it and compare with other 18650 cells.
0:00 First step is always connect BMS B(-) to the battery (-) before connecting any other wires to the BMS.
0:18 I use an alligator clip to temporarily hold the ANT B- to battery (-).
0:31 Next find the balance lead connector with the black (-) wire and connect it to the ANT.
1:10 Last wire to connect before starting the ANT is the connector with the red wire. Connecting red wire before any ground wire can permanently damage the BMS.
1:40 for ANT with tiny red and black wires (the worst type), you need a 3v-5v power source to jump start it at this stage. You can also boot any BMS by connecting the charger.
1:49 you will hear a beep when the ANT boots up and see a flashing light showing Bluetooth is on.
2:35 now you can connect the ANT app to the ANT BMS
2:48 we can see bricks 1-12 are all still perfectly balanced, meaning there is no abnormal self-discharge while sitting. But #13 is 0.004v lower.
2:54 0.004v drop over 3 months is nothing to be alarmed over, but it is why EVERY bms will try to do some balancing maintenance.
3:03 cheap dumb BMS will try to do balancing maintenance each time you fully charge the pack and leave the charger plugged in for a while after the light turns green.
3:13 The ANT can be set to balance automatically or it can be manually initiated and will balance all bricks to within 0.000v.
3:29 I will not start an Autobalancing session right now, I will wait until I charge it to about 4.15v/cell and then balance it.
This BMS has been running for 204 days without all 4 temperature sensors.?
Also, what is the tire length option in the parameters ?
@ , unfortunately this 7s-16s model only comes with 2 temperature sensors and it has the worst boot wires (red + black) so you need a battery to boot it if you don’t have your charger nearby and you accidentally turn it off. Lol.
The better ANT have 4 temperature sensors and two small black wires for booting that only needs momentarily switch to boot up the ANT and Bluetooth.
Not sure about tire length because the ANT by itself has no idea what the tire is doing. It only knows about the battery. Which set of parameters includes tire length?
@ I just found this in Endless Sphere:
“TireLength: measure your tire circumference and the BMS will use this value to calculate speed and distances. If you want to use this function you'll need to derivate a wire from one of the hall sensors to the BMS. It's pretty convenient and it works well, so it's a nice thing to have.”
I have no idea where you can input the hall sensor signal, but assuming you did connect it, then it would need tire Length (probably circumference) and Pulse value so it knee how many times that hall sensor has to change from high to low to make one revolution.
But I never dug into it. To use it with a removable battery like I have you need a special charging plug with some communication ports. Mine is just the standard EIC 320 rice cooker plug. Lol
Nice even looking banks.
@@Bitathisandthat yes, I was surprised how well balanced it stayed while in storage for 3 months. Only brick #13 had some discharge but 0.004v over 3 months is probably nothing to worry about. If it was 0.004v per day, thats a different story. Lol
I’m preparing to use this pack and duct tape it to my VESC ebike and see if 13s5p 18650 can do significantly better than the original 10s4p.
I think the 48v without field weakening is going to give me the speed I want (45 kph) and keep cruise amps within reason.
Eventually through various experiments I can see if this stock motor is sufficient, or if I need the 2000w motor which needs a lot more amps.
Ultimately I want a battery inside the 60mm diameter frame that can get me 0-45 kph with reasonable acceleration. The original battery doesn’t. Lol
@@imho7250 i need ti start buying bms's with bluetooth in them..im going to put a bigger bms in my 13s 9p battery soon as i would like to add more power as its only got a 60amp bms in it atm.
does your bike not do 50ks atm??..your running a decent size controller arent you?? as my 1000watt wheel does 62ks
i mat have asked this question b4...im unsure...lol
I like watching your videos
@@Bitathisandthat yes. After learning about Bluetooth BMS and using one on the 20s6p 32700 LiFePO4 battery I made, I will never use any BMS without Bluetooth if at all possible to get it. Size and power is the big problem.
This one is very compact and available in 40a/100a or 80a/200a. It’s perfect for my old ebike battery box but too big for my 60mm tube frame so I need a different solution. Lucky VESC controllers with CAN BUS will work with tiny “charge only” bms with canbus, and the bms tells the controller to throttle back instead of slamming the discharge port shut. And in the vesc app you can see what each brick voltage is.
This battery in this video had a cell with a CID that popped but it wasn’t easily identifiable with the original bms. As soon as I installed the ANT it was very obvious one brick had a problem, and I found the dead cell and replaced it and the battery has been working fine ever since. But it’s only 5a/cell continuous.
Ampace just released a JP30 18650 cell which appears to put the Molicel P30B in the 💩 pile. Lol. But I haven’t seen them for sale yet. I have to wait for Mooch or one of the testers to test it and compare with other 18650 cells.