Will SB19 Lose Their Name? Who Really Has The Right Over The Name SB19?
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2023
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In this video, we'll explore the question of whether or not SB19 will lose their name. We'll look at the legalities of the situation and who really has the right to the name SB19. Join us as we explore the complicated legal situation surrounding SB19 and see who really has the right to the name! - Розваги
I agree with you on all points.
Knowing however how much these boys suffered during training can't seem to justify the financial investment that SBT supposedly made, because SBT was also earning revenues from the events where the boys and other SBT talents were being made to perform. They had to learn Korean, Chinese and Japanese songs to suit every occasion. So, SBT was, to some extent, exploiting the boys years before they launched their first two songs.
What they were given as allowances were hardly enough to sustain a healthy lifestyle. Pablo said he had to sleep in the studio just to save on transport cost and be able to pay for his food. The other boys, except for Justin, who comes from a well off family, had the same experience.
That said, I feel they ought to just junk the name SB19 and come up with their own identity, one that will truly represent their vision, which seems to be 1Z. Truly, the name SB19 has no value without the original members behind it.
But as you said, whatever track they take, all we can do is to continue to support them because they are trailblazers in the Philippine music industry and they have all the talent and skills to take the industry to higher levels. Praying for them and wishing them well. May God continue to bless and light their way.
Yes true...
From the start considering their training days to performing on events the company assigned them to, mall side without even an audience yet, vlogs, them gone viral to guesting on shows till they were recognized to promoting brands and even going international I think and I believe that our boys already had given back enough if not more to SBT the investment they made on them. But to junk the name just like that isn't easy since as we all know all their hardships, struggles and efforts the "blood, sweat and tears" they had was already attached to their name SB19, that's them, it's their brand. They built the name, gotten award recognition (of course bec of their music and artistry) and even now known globally. So imagine how it's really hard for them to leave their name. Otherwise they wouldn't be facing legal battle for it if they can just leave that name or they could've just change their name right ahead when they announced their own new company also. So it's just fitting to fight for it coz it's their right and they earned it. They experienced a lot in five years being SB19. But then again as we can all agree as a fan what we can do for them is to support them whatever their decision would be and pray for them and hope for the best in them. At the end of the day whatever happens they are still our one and only Mahalima, our Ppop Kings!
So true
I agree. SB19 isn't just a name, its blood sweat and tears just as their Pagtatag trailer showed. I think other rights may also come with the name SB19. I just hope the members are able to continue using the name they have worked so hard with. 🙏
eto talaga to sum it all up. very well said.
It was sad. Freedom was the main theme for half a decade celebration it turns out there's still not free.
This is how legends are made though. If they get pass through this would be an awesome story.
I hope your good ideas will reach Pablo, Josh, Stell, Ken, Justin to ponder...thank you for always supporting our MAHALIMA!🥰
It is imperative that we advocate for the protection of these young individuals who are bringing honor to our nation. It is crucial that we correspond with our esteemed Senators, urging them to intervene and assist these boys in a just manner that will be advantageous for all parties involved. Together, they can negotiate a feasible arrangement for the complete settlement of their debts, allowing them to rightfully claim their name. It is disheartening to witness the corruption prevalent in the music industry, not only in the Philippines but in any country. The GKD video sheds light on the distressing mistreatment our artists endure, which may explain the limited exposure of Filipino talents on the global stage. I am more than willing to affix my signature to a petition that we can present to the government, as I firmly believe that the overwhelming support from fans will compel the government to take action.
Yo estoy igual 😢 los empeze a seguir a hace 4 meses y me enamore de ellos cuando me entere de esto me dio mucho tristeza no lo podia creer. Siempre los voy a apoyar pases lo que pase. Los amo mucho MAHALIMA 💙
Fighting mahalima fighting A’tin 🥹🫶
Let's support mahalima til the end.
This will not happened if Showbt take good care of SB19. Sb19 work hard for their name they write their own songs they choreograph their dance and even direct and create their own music video and concert so whats the use of the company if they just do all the works unlike Bts they were provided everthing all they have to do is to perform. So i hope SHOWBT will have the heart to give the boys their SB19 name bcoz thats their blood , sweat and tears. Hoping for the best for MAHALIMA.❤.
They really are paving the way for PPOP artists and for the industry in the Philippines through their hardship. From blood, sweat, tears, and hunger, they've experienced so much pain. I hope they stand strong and not give up now. The light is at the end of the tunnel and they're very close. 🙏🫶
Knowing them we know they don’t give up easily
My main take away from this is that I have to check myself. The mommy side of me is looking for a ‘thing’ to attack so I can defend my boys, Pablo, Stell, Ken, Josh, and Justin. They are hurting and so I am hurting. I feel like crying and hitting someone at the same time. Ultimately I know that there will be a resolution to these issues. ‘Unconditional support’ is a given. Just hoping that the solution to this issue won’t be dragged out too long. I’m missing them already.
Ditto 😢
Good point: "The name is nothing without the artist" Just pray these 5 boys will be successful in their case against their former company and that moral decisions will prevail. 🙏
Yes amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏
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this is a very good vlog by someone who cares for Mahalima. I love how you emphasized that the name SB19 has no value without Stell, Pablo, Josh, Ken and Justin. My heart goes for the boys, they built that name, pinaghirapan nila so greed talaga ang kalaban natin. As frustrated as we all maybe A'TIN, maging malakas, matalino at mapagmahal pa sana tayo lalo na sa panahong gaya nito. Iwasan ang mga away at gulo so hindi maapektuhan ang MAHALIMA. God will guide them and I know that as long as they stay strong as Artists, we will conquer this. Let us be strong here for them as supporters. Good things happen to good people, remember that💙 KAYA NILA ITO, BASTA WALANG BIBITAW💪💙💙💙💙💙
this info makes me cry more and amazed that a lot of good people love and is willing to help our MAHALIMA!!
Love the "my support is unconditional" line. That made me smile🙂. Thank you for being one of the millions who are expressing their unwavering support to our boys. My support is thru prayer, there is nothing too hard for God to do. And I've been praying that God would decide in favor of our Mahalima💙💙💙💙💙
Me, too. My support for mahalima is thru PRAYERS
Amen 🙏
Because our BOYS became famous and they have build a moral and spiritual relationship with the Pilipinos and the whole world.
Without the artist, the name is nothing. For me, let go and release all the baggages. It will affect the mental health of the boys if they will continue to fight for that name. Whatever name will that be, fans will still be there no matter what. Mental health is very important for artists. So hope they will let go and come up with new and much better name this time that is not anymore linked to SBT.
Compensation is real but for struggling artists this is unattainable without support, we as fans need to chip in. I’ve just visited the Philippines to attend the anniversary concert. They looked burdened despite the happiness they try to portray. Their struggle is real so they need our financial support.
I've been wondering the same thing.. In one of their interviews or live, they mentioned that they've consulted experts and discussed legalities before moving on and separating from ShowBT so I thought they must have discussed this early on otherwise they were given bad advice and bad lawyering.. On the other hand, if they have made an agreement with ShowBT thus were able to continue using "SB19" until after they launched their new company (which what most likely happened) then that prior agreement must be honored by both parties. Having great lawyers at this time is critical for them, someone who is expert in Philippine laws and policies surrounding this subject.
At the end of the day, ShowBT is a business entity and this may not be a good publicity for them. that We can only hope that their moral values will prevail and honor their agreement or come to a fair settlement. As for the Mahalima, they truly claimed their "Pagtatag" era this year. Indeed this year is filled with challenges na pinapatatag at ipapatatag ang kanilang buong pagkatao. Praying for wisdom for them and the entire team as they make the right decision.
Don’t worry guys Pablo, Stell, Ken, Josh and Justin will soon claim their name SB19 again! 💪🏼✨ if not it’s fine I don’t care as long as MAHALIMA is well and COMPLETE!!!!!
Please speak more about this topic so that it may somehow bring light and clarity to this issue not just to the Pablo, Josh, Stell, Ken and Justin but also to other artists that may face a similar issue in the future. WE LOVE YOU MAHALIMA! ❤❤❤
Praying every day for our MAHALIMA’s FREEDOM and Peace ❤❤❤🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🌈🌈🌈🕊️🕊️🕊️ Thank you mam for your thoughts and views and beautiful message for MAHALIMA and for all A’TIN ❤
BABANGON TAYO PADAYON
#MAHALIMA
#MAHALIMAxATIN
Thank you. Exactly what I have in mind. Tho we don't know the exact story but judging from the events that are happening...solid support for the 5 is what matters most right now.
Yes you're right.. it's sad to hear that their tour has been cancelled due to the right issue and yet this is the only artist group that is breaking the Philippine's music to the international arena.. i love you guys.. we will support you guys to very end of your fight..
Just like to clarify that the SG stop is the only stop cancelled from their Asia tour. Bangkok, Dubai and Japan are still going to push through as far as we know :)
These boys go through so much! 😢 Just when we thought they reached the light at the end of the tunnel…the tunnel just got longer…my heart aches for them💔😭. Thank you so much for your insight! I didn’t realize how much music artists go through being under a label 😞
My heart breaks seeing them work hard to reach where they are now😢😢
I hope SBT sees the better option and give them the name😢 ❤
But if Mahalima do change their name, i am all for it. For their mental health and creativity. 😊
Well, if ayaw ipagbili yung rights...alam na..gagatasan talaga ng gahaman sa pera ang MAHALIMA.. Nakita na kasi na kayang-kaya ng lima na makipag sabayan sa Kpop at international scene plus they know na may most dedicated fans sila. 😏😌
Unconditional love and support , this is what MAHALIMA needs ❤❤❤
This mahalima i understand intends to help our local artists make it internationally by way of promoting ppop globally, and they can only do this by separating from their Korean management. The phil government should mediate or do something about this because this wil really really help phil economy and promote tourism and other industries that can generate income. It will promote our country's existence in the whole world and ultimately gain the respect that we deserve from them.❤
Boss move 💪 the value is in the boys' undeniable talent! No one can't take that away from them. casual turned a'tin here 💙
I never imagined that they'd go through this trademark challenge.. But this is a canon event. I feel a bigger success for the Mahalima.
Thank you, I agree with your thoughts. My hearts goes to the boys. I pray this matter will be settled amicably soon.
I had been waiting on what your take would be on this issue. I agree with all of your points. I think SB19 either has to buy the rights to their name or better yet create a new name. Their current name is too coupled with their ShowBT beginnings and Korea, but their current goals is to promote the Philippine talent and culture. As a business, I cannot see ShowBT giving up their rights voluntarily especially when the SB19 name is now a very viable product for them. It seems they’ll want to milk as much as they can out of it, especially when I can imagine they probably believe that they had a very significant hand in “making” SB19 what it is now. In reality, the five boys’ talents were already at a high level when they entered ShowBT and just needed, for the most part, developing further. ShowBT’s investments should definitely be recouped but they actually had seven years to do that. If SB19 really wants to keep their name, ShowBT should sell the name to them. Honestly, I just want the boys to cut all ties with their former management company.
SB19 is going to be P_POP's GOT7 when they walk away from JYP.
When I initially heard about this, I felt hurt, enraged, and sorry for the guys.
I'm confident that no matter what they do, they will overcome it together, and we fans will always be there for them -not the company.
I'm hoping that as a result of this, fans will be more aware of the difficulties faced by artists and will take action against businesses that don't represent them.
Fighting boys 🥹🫶
A lot of this could've been avoided if the management side of the music industry would simply start treating the artists that they sign with more respect. give the artists a more equitable contract AND NOT simply bleed them dry of potential profits and then throw them aside with no safety net after their popularity has waned. In other words, the artists they sign are people that should be treated as human beings instead of commodities that have expiration dates. We all know that the music industry, in any country, functions that way, and that should change!
A little humanity goes a long way on avoiding these types of legal battles that seem so inevitable in every artist/group's career.
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it took a year before got7 fully gained their rights for their copyrights but for got7, it took few months and made a comeback thru a single called ENCORE. they paid JYP for the transfer of everything GOT7 particularly the trademark. be strong A'TIN, mahirap but i know makakaya natin to.💚💙
Since SB19 is going International, they are now under the other countries' laws. Patent is the name of the game. Look what happened to "Prince", Taylor Swift and other big known singers. SB19 has to rebrand or buy their name and logo from their previous Korean management.
I live in US, copyright, patent, and trade mark (TM) are intended to protect people and brands.
Good job in reporting this.
Anybody who will use SB19 won't benefits from that name..bcos SB19 means Pablo Josh Stell Ken and Justin. Standing strong for mahalima ❤❤❤❤❤
I hope that this legal battle will not break their spirit. I hope that they remain healthy and safe and sound even though this . My support is always here in my own little way . I love these boys and so proud of them all including their wonderful team #MAHALIMA
What you said,ma'am, makes us feel good inside, thanks too for the explanation, as a fan, I also feel sorry for them, seeing them persevere for where they are now, we also need many people like you that can give as hope for the problem, I know it will not end up this way, God will always make a way. Thank you once again, thanks for giving moral support and good explanation for the boys, what ever it may seems I always been proud of them... Prayers goes with them..they can do it...we always support you boys...God is always bigger than anything in this world.
Thanks josh,ken,pablo,stell and justin sa pagbibigay saya sana matapos na ang problema nyo at bumalik na ang name nyo we luv boysss andto lng kami A’Atin para sumuporta sainyo❤❤❤😢😢😢
Thank you for your unwavering support for the guys. It's heartbreaking I just hope all these things happening to them will not affect their mental wealth being. I would hate for them to give up on their dreams. All we can do is rally and make our commitment to these boys unconditional.
I just realized yes your right the name SB19 is nothing without the boys so even if showbt givethat name to other group that showbt might produce in the future it won't deny the fact that SB19 is popular only because of Pablo,josh,stell ken and Justine .. mahalima shed blood ,hardwork and tears to build that name, and it's very painful to just let it go,,but I think it's better to do so (let it go )so they can be free to all of this ,mahalima is mahalima no matter what other name would be ,fact is fact we A'tin will continue to love and support them all the way thru good and bad time no matter what❤❤❤ we love you all our mahalima
I do believe that, too. They are good people and they have the best intentions for their company, their fandom, and the Filipino music industry. I believe that they will be guided as to their next steps. I, too, will be there for #mahalima, praying for their guidance, protection, and good health.
My love and support is unconditional as well. My ongoing support and to A'TIN for Mahalima/1Z is to buy/stream their music. They get their royalties for their creations.
To be their ears for their whispers.
They have gone through a lot of battles, and this one has gained public eyes and awareness for PH artists.
I will leave it to the legal experts. I hope this case will not last long and they have come to an agreement.
I believe this delay will bring out a celebration.
("Why can't they just give their name!" 😅 My same reaction)
Thank you for your continued support and advice for our MAHALIMA. ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏
It is okay to give up the SB19 name because our mahalima can create their own name. Talents made them popular not their group name. korean entertainment companies are greedy will see those on news but most of their artist are afraid to voice it out.
The pronlem is sb19 will expire in 2031. Mag aantay pa po yata sila ng taon bago mapalitan legally ang pangalan nilang sb19..
Its not as easy as you make it sound.how about their songs released under the name SB19,how about their social media platform etc.giving up that name means they have to start from zero.they have been doing well even when they left that company,there seemed to be no problem,maybe something happened behind closed doors that fans may never know.why now that that company is up and down about SB19?
At the end of the day...business is business....money is money...
It's the boys that made the name popular. Though ShowBT created the boys with that name, it will be useless without their hardwork & perseverance. And since 1Z Entertainment is already a different company, the boys didn't realize/know about the legalities of a name & still used it. So we can see how shocked they are now because this will definitely involve a large amount of money and of course will greatly affect a lot of other things. But I believe in the boys specially Pablo who is the CEO. They had overcome their struggles and problems in life and they can do it again & again. The fans or A'TIN are also going to fight for them as God is always with them. 🙏♥️🇵🇭
Thank you so so much Ma'am, I hope that somehow these insights that you have shared can enlighten us A'TIN of the issue speculating around social media about Pablo, Ken, Stell, Josh, and Justin. In a media landscape often filled with noise, your commitment to delivering accurate and well-researched content is truly commendable. It is through efforts like yours that fans and enthusiasts can stay connected to the latest developments, gaining a deeper insight into the world of entertainment and its intricacies. I believe that your insights have not only benefited fans but have also contributed to the broader discourse surrounding the relationship between artists and entertainment entities. Just like you, I will keep supporting our PPOP KINGS and I do hope that they can be able to watch this too.
Thank you so much for supporting our JOSH ,PABLO,STELL,KEN AND JUSTIN .All we can do now is pray 🙏 🤲 for them to overcome this issue and giving them strength and good health always ....❤❤❤
We pray that The Lord give them wisdom to make decision wise and right and touch the heart of those people Who are claiming something from the Mahalima that They become considerate and kind.🙏🙏
Thank you for your insight's regarding the issue, although we didn't understand for now the status of the brand name that also included the country code of the 🇵🇭!🤔
Right now all we have to do is to wait for Mahal5's announcement 'coz SG Pagtatag was cancelled, the glam team of Mahal5 already there 1st in Singapore, to found out that there's no Mahal5 in a flesh there, so sad for other A'tin who came from the differen't part's of the world & already spending a lot, but as you said A'tin love for our P pop King's is un conditional as group & individually!❤🙌
Right now, there's no word's coming from them but very much thankful to A'tin for the love & support & word's of encouragement to be stay strong & 'yah let's fight for the right!👍
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Love your calm and logical explanation. Hoping for the best for our Mahalima ❤
It's ok if they charge their group name beacuse Atin love them by their talents whatever happens. But we all knows it's not easy to change everything and let go the group name that they're working hard for it. Yes SB 19 is Pablo, Josh, Justin, Stell and Ken . We pray for our Mahalima to win for their name and still supporting them forever ❤
My thoughts, whatever is the outcome, Mahalima for sure will become better/bigger because Pablo, Josh, Ken, Justin and Stell have already established their names. No one can take away their skills and dreams. No one can replicate how they create their music and how they inspire their listeners. The previous management can get money out of this situation but this will not sustain them forever. After this, one possible consequence is that Filipinos may no longer trust and work with SBT or even Korean companies with similar business.
Maybe this is a blessing in disguise. Maybe in the future, 1z, as a movement, will spearhead the protection of Filipino artists.
that was a great insight! tho i really don’t understand why the band name issue came out just when they created their own management. i mean isn’t it the first thing to do when you leave your former management, to settle everything and that includes the band name? was there no lawyer/adviser involve?
if SBT won’t settle if they do it legally then they’re only left to change their name. sure it will be difficult from the start but this will stop SBT to profit from MAHALIMA. and the whole world will get to know what kind of company SBT is if this happens which will be bad for SBT’s business. and i do hope SBT will see it like that. and just simply settle it legally and have both parties to be compensated well.
She said it at the beginning, and I agree with her, that most likely 1Z and ShowBT had a prior agreement about the usage of the "SB19" name and logo before they left. Like you said, that's the first thing they should settle and they did. Stell mentioned it during their Pagtatag presscon. He said, "pinaglaban namin yung SB19 na name mismo" nonverbatim. Now, whatever made the situation change, we don't know. We can only speculate.
@@sundae-on-sundays yeah but still, the lawyer of the boys should’ve checked every details whatever the agreement was kung anuman un. but ur right we can only speculate since we really don’t know kung anong klaseng agreement meron sila. nakakaburaot lang na they’re going thru this problem. ok lang sana kung bashers eh. but this is different. i really hope ma settle nila this issue the soonest para okay ang pasko at bagong taon ng MAHALIMA at A’TIN.🙏
i hope there is someone who would stand with them and give them importance as the first filo artist to go global thats really something ❤
The best thing to do is to change the name to MAHALIMA. Maaring mahirap sa una but soon that hirap will be overcome. Besides it's the legacy behind 1Z which is break the norms. So pangalan muna uunahin. It's the A'TIN fandom who called them MAHALIMA. SB19 is nothing without the support of A'TIN and the enormous talents of Pablo, Stell, Josh, ken and Justin. Mahihigitan ng pangalang MAHALIMA ang SB19. Just in case naman na gamitin yon ng previous company para sa talent nila they can be called fake dahil hindi nman sila ang original. So don't be afraid of the changes. MAHALIMA will be known worlwide dahil sa mga talentong bigay ng Diyos kina Pablo, Josh, Stell, Ken nd Justin at sa supporta ng A'TIN. Sa tulong ng Diyos ay mahihigitan pa ng MAHALIMA ang inabot ng SB19. Siguro ngayon inilalagay lng ng Diyos ang mga bagay bagay sa tama. Ito lng ang napi feel ko. Ang mga tao nga ay pinapalitan din ang pangalan for various reasons. Ah basta kung ano ang mga balakid sa pag-unlad ay dapat itapon. GOD bless Mahalima Keep going, soar high, A'TIN we're just behind you supporting❤❤❤🎉. Anyway po thanks for the suggestion. I believe through prayers this problem would be resolve soon. GOD bless Mahalima.
Hwag naman MAHALIMA...
Sounds Muslim....
Correct...with the help of A'tin... Kaya Yan...
I think 1 zone is ok it's link to 1z Enttertainment nila ,new name kesa million million mawala sa kanila para lang ibayad sa ck na yan mukhang Pera. Mga talented artist Sila at Kilala na sa local and international .we love and support you guys # Pablo,josh,stell,ken and jah. I hope maayos na soon. Godbless❤
@@guinamanese56601Z is more precise and appropriate, just my thought.. It's easy to announce & pronounce 😊 when you introduce them..
@@wahoowahoo2341may meaning kasi yan MAHALIMA
Ang hirap ng sitwasyon Ngayon ng Mahalima,😢😢sana maayos na as soon as possible,
Right from the beginning I said the boys should just let go of the name and change it to Mahalima or MAHA5 since its their own names, individual personality, talents and artistry that made the name SB19 famous without which it would be nothing. As for the rights to their songs, unless otherwise expressly provided in the contract, they own those songs so there is no reason why they cannot sing or promote them under another name. They should get a good lawyer or maybe our top lawyers in the country could step up and represent them for the sake of national interest.
I believe the same. God is greater than ShowBT.
MY COMMENT IS VERY LONG BUT I HOPE YOU READ IT. THANK YOU.😊
Your video is very enlightening, and I agree.
There are, however, some missed points which I hope you will consider in reevaluating the situation.
(I will try not to mention names.) The group was formed under Management 'A' who was very caring and had worked really hard to make Mahalima be known. It was Mgt 'A' and the boys who concocted the group's name. The group name, as well as the fandom name, was their brainchild. The boys achieved relative success despite being stunted by the pandemic. It was at this time that Mgt 'A' decided to go back to Korea, and eventually selling the company to Mgt 'B'. I don't want to judge his character or his management style but I think you can make an intelligent guess. What I want to say 'tho is that Mgt 'B' has very little positive contribution to the rise and popularity of Mahalima. If I may say so, he's more of a negative energy to the team. It was Mgt 'A' and our Mahalima who worked their butts off building the name and the brand. It was Pablo who made 90% of their music (just my estimate). Stell and Ken part-timed as the group's choreographers and Justin as creative director.
For me, the only compensation Mgt 'B' should get is the money he paid Mgt 'A'. My question is: Can the boys use intellectual property right to their group name.
This is a learning opportunity for all Filipino artists. I wish all OPM artists will rally behind our Mahalima. We should stand up against greedy and oppressive foreigners.
Thank you for taking time to talk on this and your positive reaction.
Always support Pablo, josh, stell, Justin and ken. Whatever name they decide to. It is a talent not a business company name. A good people always make difference, let us support our very own artist and always promote ❤. Laban PH.
Thank you for your insight. It makes me hopeful about the future of Mahalima. Like you said, it won't be easy but with the support of the whole fandom, PabloJoshStellKenJustin will come out of this storm stronger and better.
Sayang lang kung hindi to masesettle. Alangn naman ibibigay nila ung SB19 sa ibang group, it doesn’t makes sense
Just hoping everything will be solved sooner, , ,that SBT will give up the name and give it to Mahalima, , hoping further that ph will do Thier parts for the seek of our Artist
You’re right, we don’t know the story. all you said were right.
Mahalima is silent, and we better be silent, too, and yes, we can say our feeling but let us refrain word/ words that might incriminate the other side, bcoz we don’t know the story. I admire A’tin, as much as I admire our Mahalima. but can you remove the “greed” what does it stands for?
Hope the Mahalima 1Zone will surpass this kind of situation just like before. Thank you for the suggestions for our Mahalima. Hope all you mentioned can reach them.
Thank you for this objective take on the issues surrounding the use of the name SB19 and the artists concerned. While the whole story is unknown outside of the parties concerned, for sure, the events and posts about it are causing so much distress to the artists and fans alike. Your posts serves not only as a source of good information but also as a rallying point to stand behind Pablo, Josh, Stell, Ken and Justin. They worked so hard to promote Filipino music and achieved so much success which provided huge financial inflow to their previous employer. And now that they decided to be independent, they have to grapple with nefarious practices in the music industry. I agree with you that SB19 without the artist is nothing. Despite the current situation, the Five remains to be a valuable and profitable asset with a huge loyal following. So I pray justice prevails for our boys in the end. And they continue to do what they do best - make beautiful music and perform on the world stage happily and freely.
I DO AGREE WITH YOUR suggestion. Thank you for enlightening the information and I hope Mahalima can read this perhaps this suggestion of yours will help them and their lawyer. ❤
Thank you so much for sharing this..for me makakaisip at makakagawa ng maayos na solusyon ang MAHALIMA dahil God is with them. Mababait na tao ang limang ito kita sa mga interview.. kaya naniniwala ako na bigyan sila ng magandang solusyon ni Lord.. Keep fighting mahalima❤
Thank you for sharing your ideas to us and for continuously supporting our very own MAHALIMA. 😢
Yakap po sa ating lahat!❤
If it might be helpful, please look into GOT7.. there's might be a similar situation, but they successfully gained almost everything including their name, all equally owned by 7 members, to this day the grp are still together and also individually successful. As I mentioned before on your previous topics, LEGAL(retained) services is a must. Honestly, it's a bit frustrating that the boys were not appropriately adviced, which should have happened, especially when they were starting to gain traction. Please correct me if I may be wrong.
Whatever happened..my support is unconditionally too...option no.1 is better, and if they need finance support maybe we as fan can do something to help them
WHAT'S IN A NAME??? We all remember William Shakespeare... "A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet!" Pablo right now is more well known than Sejun -the monicker we all call John Paolo Nase- the genius leader of this trailblazing Kings of P-Pop. If there's no resolution to this debacle and they can't get their name back, then maybe they can Create a Name, one that represents them, suits them. I wish it is as simple as dropping a name and picking up another. I truly don't know the extent of SBT's claiming the rights to the SB19 name. Eventually SB19 without the boys will be just a name! Whatever, however it is, I pray for courage and strength, clarity in thinking, and peace and acceptance at whatever decision PABLO, JOSH, STELL, KEN and JUSTIN ever come to! A'TIN most likely feel the same way-- I came and I'm staying! However, whatever you want our support, just let us know, MAHALIMA!!! 💙💙💙💙💙
Salamat ma'am. BABANGON TAYO PADAYON 💙💙💙💙💙
You highlighted the possible main issues. As you said, we don't know the whole story since our boys are obviously constrained from even talking about it.
Hints and clues had been dropped previously in interviews and other appearances, hindsight lets us put them together.
In the end, we all hope and pray that human decency, mutual respect and goodwill prevails and brings a solution agreeable to all.
The international reaction and support by fans and concerned people is something that must be factored in if labels want to attract more talent.
SEAsia has a large pool of undiscovered and under-promoted talent who will start out with this as a guidepost
I can feel your motherly love and pain. I truly believe too in the ability of the boys and their team to do the right thing. Oh as a Grandma A’TIn I want to hug them tight Praying hard here for them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
thank you for sharing your opinion and supporting regardless of the situation ❤❤❤
I Hope There Are Top Caliber Lawyer's or LawMaker that Will Voluntarily Help Mahalima It Will Be A Great Action if There Is.👈
This Is Our Country's Pride in Music Industry. Please Kindly Help Them❤❤❤
The options and the legality and morality of the said issues that you're talking about is same as mine.
Thanks for supporting them as I am also supporting them, too. Yes, it's very frustrating and very painful process.
God bless them. ❤
Everything is on point. This gives A'TIN hope and smiles on our faces, somehow. We will share this video so that the rest of A'TIN will learn from it, that is to stop spewing hateful words because we really dont know the full story. We know that the boys and 1Z entertainment will make the right decision. Whatever it is we will continue to support and love them. "Sb19 is popular not because of the name but because of Stell,Pablo,Justin, Josh and Ken" - absolutely true! Thanks!
In my honest opinion, legally, ShowBT may have the right to the name SB19 but it will only be a useless brand for them eh. Being the rightful owner kase won't make the brand become a cash cow for them kase hindi naman nila kaya i-replicate yung magic ng 'mahalima' na identified sa brand na yun.
Mag-create ba naman sila ng new batch of SB19 when SB19 will forever be 'pablojoshstellkenjustine'. you can be called SB19 pero if hindi ka si 'pablojoshstellkenjustine', wala din naman yun.
Yung brand na SB19 means nothing without the original members and the nostalgia it brings. SB19 will forever be associated with 'pablojoshstellkenjustine'.
Although what matters most is yung staying power ng mahalima, still i feel na hindi dapat basta bitawan na lang yung name but sana, to take it back instead. Hindi naman ShowBT lang ang nagpasikat ng brand na yun, in essence kase may share din sa value nung brand ang mahalima eh.
Come to think of it, if hindi buong binigay ng mga boys ang puso't kaluluwa nila at nag drip drip drip ng pawis luha at dugo over the last five years just to establish that brand in the industry and in the hearts of the people, then that brand won't have so much value at all.
If useless din lang naman kase ang brand na SB19 sa ShowBT, then why not just sell it to IZ but they should not overprice.
Big thank you for this input. And thank you for being the level headed one out of all of us. 😂 im hoping for a good outcome in the future
the legendary first-generation kpop boy group "shinhwa" had to fight their original company sm entertainment in the courts before they got the rights to their band name. it took them 12 years, they had to pay royalties not only for their band name but also for the use of their own songs until they decided to pay sm entertainment in full. other bands were not so lucky. "beast," a popular second-generation kpop boy group, had to change their name to "highlight" when their agency, cube entertainment, refused to give them their name. "got7," the popular third-generation kpop boy band was lucky. their original agency, jyp entertainment, handed them the "got7" trademark without any problem. people are now waiting to see what will happen to another popular third-generation kpop boy group, "btob," if they can use their name since they did not renew their contracts with their agency cube entertainment. it is unfortunate but some management companies own the rights not only to the band name, but to the songs the artists are performing as well, especially if the group does not compose/write/produce their own songs. if the latter is the case (hopefully not), then SB19 may not be able to perform the very songs that made them famous, unless they pay royalties with every performance.
When this happened to Mahalima, it made me appreciate JYP for not dragging Got7 in a lawsuit over the rights of their name when they left JYPE as what happened to other kpop artists who did the same thing.
Andami ng pinagdaanan ng lima at ng A'tin, we will get through this too. Focus lang at wag padadala sa d magandang sinasabi at sasabihin ng iba. Be vigilant, be their 1st line of defense, not the first to point a finger at them.
Whatever they decide on, A'tin will be here for the 5 of them, not for the name that they carried.
Thank you for saying what I've also said in my group of friends. The five boys are the ones who made that name popular and together with A'tin, it became "valuable". Without the 5 of them and our fandom, that name will just be a regular name.
So I'm okay with whatever the boys decide to do if ever they need to 'cross that bridge'. We were able to promote them when they were starting up, we can promote them again now that a lot of people have seen how talented they are. Every obstacle that we overcome, the boys bounces back stronger and A'tin comes out fiercer. 💙
Thank you for sharing your thoughts,I was enlightened a bit and thank you for always supporting them.
May they tend to humble themselves than to fight back what legallities are! Everything & everyone has a reasons,may we just continue supporting & praying our Maha5 to prosfer where ever the good lord has the store for them... HE knows the best!!!At first, 'twas sad,but coz of A'TIN they're more loving & motivated to do & prove their skills. I saluted all of you,who are not yet A'TIN's but supporter too!Maha5 really appreciated everyone & giving back to us their best to compensate our loved for them!To God Be The Glory😇😇😇
thank you for your wonderful insights. like what you said, we, A'tin will continue to support them. prayers for our mahalima and 1Z to get through this
Tama ka .Sa lahat Ng pinoy support Tayo Sa kapwa natin pinoy na mahalima.para di gamitin ng showbt n ang nag mayhari ibang nationality.
Since they already cancelled SIN, I guess the rest will follow because this can’t be settled in a short time.😢
My question is why ShowBT claim their rights only just now? MAHALIMA is using that name since wyat era and also they declare their new company last June 2023. After 2021 pandemic came and SB19 also experience hiatus.
I think they never thought SB19 becomes international sensation and now they regret letting them go.
This is comforting and so positive. Thank you for this. ❤️ they will make it.
Pls help them❤
That’s maybe the reason?Hiting globally and their popularity is soaring high and more!are they threaten by this?Are there any bigger pictures behind this,i am just wondering ,i am not sure anyway🤔just asking?
Greed! It's all GREED. Why don't the senate tackle this. Are we, the Boys being harassed in our own land? This should not be so. Can't we rely on our lawmakers for defending the boys who did & will be doing a lot for the industry, for the country & for its people. The boys has promoted a lot for the Phil making it famous all over the world.
Im a fan but calling legality Greed is kind of double standard? We defended the boys with the Gento copyright/royalty issues, but ShowBT is automatically “Greedy” for exercising the same legal rights? Better wait till all the facts come in to light.
Just wanna share just for me what if the #mahalima did not nail through the music industry or became popular as they are now, will there be a problem like this? I hope #mahalima will get what they deserve as they really worked hard for that group name and its value. Thank u for this vlog. #ForeverAtin. I pray and hope humanity and legal reasons prevail.❤
Sana malagpasan ng mahalima tong sitwasyon nato sa kanila🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for this. I very much appreciate the logical, moral and practical approach you used to break down the situation and the possible options mahalima has at the moment. Thank you too for your unconditional support for the five of them 🙏
Your unsolved opinion/advice is timely appreciated. I hope & pray, ultimately, those ticklish issues will be resolved fairly & amicably between the parties involved at the soonest time possible during these coming months for many events & not also to missout opportunities for the good of the company, artists & our country 👍🙂🙏
Sorry for typographical error in my 1st comment. I mean your unsolicited opinion, ok. Ty for understanding & consideration 🤞😉
This just begs the questions about MONEY:
Who gets
Where?
When?
How?
Why?
Being a fan, I love that you’re so logical and level-headed about the whole thing. I have mixed feelings about the name changing. Pwedeng oo Pwede ding Hindi. Pero a legal battle is just …. It might do harm than good. They’re going to lose their momentum!!!! Waahhh!!! Nooooo! My two cents worth. Love your analogy though ! Would love to hear more.
Thank you. Ma'am for your insights. Ito pla yung struggle that they mentioned 4 days ago. Let's continue praying for & supporting our P-pop kings. 💛❤🩶🩵💜