The Luger can be reliable - but the ammo *has* to suit the recoil spring. - Not so with the Steyr. It seems to operate reliably with any ammo. Next to a modern gun, the 1912 is a little clunky but what it loses in terms of features, it more than makes up for in terms of reliability. When your life's on the line, a _reliable_ gun is the most valuable possession one could have.
I have one from 1915 with WWI proof-marks and capture papers from WWII. I just wish I could get ammo for it, I only have about 20 bullets left for it and don't want to shoot them. I wish mine was converted, but alas it's original. Awesome video!
Ammo is still available. Fiocchi makes some I believe but others are "findable" if you are willing to search. Took me about 6 months but I have about 200 rounds for mine right now. Had to resort to Gunbroker though for some of it.
Interesting to see one close up.....and also interesting to see the way FW has changed over a decade! (bit like finding some old videos of the kids...)
Thanks for the video. It helped immensely and I managed to get my Steyr back together again. Now all I have to do is locate some ammunition for it, but, o me miserum, I live in California!
They are great guns. Even though the Steyr round (9x23mm) is a little more powerful than a standard 9mm (9x19mm), the Steyr recoil feels much less. They're very accurate and very reliable. A lovely, lovely pistol.
So a recoil spring with a crosspin similar to the colt model 1900, internal stripper clip fed magazine like the broomhandle mauser, and a rotating barrel like Walther Volkspistole. Of course the Volkspistole was not around at the time, but it's a similar rotating barrel mechanism. Interesting little gun, the only reason why I don't think that I'd ever pick one up is the odd caliber, not that it's no good, but it's just hard to come by and fairly expensive.
I dfound one of these in an antique gun shop. It’s has Nazi stamps all over the gun. I was told it was an officers gun. I’m not sure. but this thing is still reliable. I still shoot in once in awhile and I will never EVER GET RID OF THIS gun. I also love how it looks!
OK nice, but what I don't get is with a longer case 23 vs 19mm you would think they would be a little more powerfull than the 9mm Luger not less, is that correct. so what would be the difference between this round and the 9mm Largo which has the same deminsions ,it doesn't look like they're interchangeable from what I could find without a lot of research or are they ?
bought one of these surplus 35 years ago love the steyr round kept the gun original ammo got scarce so i made steyr ammo if you want to shoot parabellum go buy one and leave this caliber alone
I own a Chilean 1911 Steyr. After months of no use, I cleaned it carefully and fully loaded to fire. Before shooting, I tried to eject the first cartridege and discovered, luckily, that it was jammed fully loaded with one round in the chamber. Nobody I know, has been able to teach me a safe way to unload. In spite, some guys suggest to shoot and .........see what happens!!!!!! Any suggestion?
The 9mm Steyr was _more_ powerful than the standard Luger cartridge at the time. 1230fps 388ft/lbs, versus 1180fps, 365ft/lbs. Yes, there are some extra power *new* Luger rounds that are overpressured and recent guns have been made to accommodate this extra pressure. If there were an upgraded Steyr, that too would have better ballistics. It's not fair to compare a 2020 cartridge and 2020 pistol against a 1912 pistol and cartridge specification. The 9x23mm shell has 4 more mm to house extra powder. Its not rocket science...( actually, it is)
8:27 is always good for a smile. See also: Othais's recent adventure with a Mannlicher 1905. ua-cam.com/video/x4m8u_Ve-O0/v-deo.htmlm20s "Perfect! Works every time."
Matthew Hansen He has a video on the different variants, and the 9mm conversion (the ones stamped 08 reference the P08 Luger's cartridge, 9x19mm or 9mm parabellum, so yours would be a 9mm conversion just like the one in the video) sold for a hammer price of $1380 (you have to add 10-15%, depending on if you're paying cash or credit, for the auction house's commission) at an auction this summer. If you were to sell yours at auction keep in mind you would also pay a portion (usually 10%) of the hammer price to the auction house, they usually get a percentage from both the seller and the buyer.
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Yes - the Germans actually converted a bunch of the guns to 9mm Luger for wartime use.
I had a chance to fire this weapon in 9mm Parabellum. It was extremely reliable, no malfunctions whatsoever over 200 rounds fired.
The Luger can be reliable - but the ammo *has* to suit the recoil spring. - Not so with the Steyr. It seems to operate reliably with any ammo. Next to a modern gun, the 1912 is a little clunky but what it loses in terms of features, it more than makes up for in terms of reliability.
When your life's on the line, a _reliable_ gun is the most valuable possession one could have.
I am so glad you got a better camera.
I love how you used a camera made in 1912 to film a video about the Steyer 1912.
Yes.
I have one from 1915 with WWI proof-marks and capture papers from WWII. I just wish I could get ammo for it, I only have about 20 bullets left for it and don't want to shoot them. I wish mine was converted, but alas it's original. Awesome video!
Ammo is still available. Fiocchi makes some I believe but others are "findable" if you are willing to search. Took me about 6 months but I have about 200 rounds for mine right now. Had to resort to Gunbroker though for some of it.
Thanks for the info and the demo. Had to rewind a few times to figure out the finesse but got it. Thanks.
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Loren
08:30 The information I was hoping for! Thanks for that detail!!
Interesting to see one close up.....and also interesting to see the way FW has changed over a decade! (bit like finding some old videos of the kids...)
Thanks for the video. It helped immensely and I managed to get my Steyr back together again. Now all I have to do is locate some ammunition for it, but, o me miserum, I live in California!
They are great guns. Even though the Steyr round (9x23mm) is a little more powerful than a standard 9mm (9x19mm), the Steyr recoil feels much less. They're very accurate and very reliable. A lovely, lovely pistol.
Very neat design.
So a recoil spring with a crosspin similar to the colt model 1900, internal stripper clip fed magazine like the broomhandle mauser, and a rotating barrel like Walther Volkspistole. Of course the Volkspistole was not around at the time, but it's a similar rotating barrel mechanism. Interesting little gun, the only reason why I don't think that I'd ever pick one up is the odd caliber, not that it's no good, but it's just hard to come by and fairly expensive.
Detonics&Woodsman There are 9mm conversions that were made.
I want one badly I can re load for my 44-77 sharps bottleneck I can for a 9mm styre lol. U can always reload oddballs
Do you have dimensions of the steyr? I'm looking for engineering drawings for a project I'm working on.
I dfound one of these in an antique gun shop. It’s has Nazi stamps all over the gun. I was told it was an officers gun. I’m not sure. but this thing is still reliable. I still shoot in once in awhile and I will never EVER GET RID OF THIS gun. I also love how it looks!
So the recoil spring assembly for 9mm Steyr will be safe and reliable with a 9x19 barrel?
OK nice, but what I don't get is with a longer case 23 vs 19mm you would think they would be a little more powerfull than the 9mm Luger not less, is that correct.
so what would be the difference between this round and the 9mm Largo which has the same deminsions ,it doesn't look like they're interchangeable from what I could find without a lot of research or are they ?
I don't, sorry.
can you reload 9mm largo to work in this gun or not
bought one of these surplus 35 years ago love the steyr round kept the gun original ammo got scarce so i made steyr ammo if you want to shoot parabellum go buy one and leave this caliber alone
why not put the recoil spring around the barrel?
I always see them loaded with stripper clips, Can you load a single round or a few by hand if needed?
yes you can
@@JordanFlayer thank you for the info
I own a Chilean 1911 Steyr. After months of no use, I cleaned it carefully and fully loaded to fire. Before shooting, I tried to eject the first cartridege and discovered, luckily, that it was jammed fully loaded with one round in the chamber. Nobody I know, has been able to teach me a safe way to unload. In spite, some guys suggest to shoot and .........see what happens!!!!!! Any suggestion?
Can this locking system handle a .45 ACP?
Sure, the Mexican Obregon is a rotating-barrel .45, as are the recent Beretta PX-4 pistols in .45.
Forgotten Weapons Cool, thanks.
Interesting question; if one could replace any parts with polymer. What parts do you think could?
Could I put a 9x19 chambered barrel in my 9mm Steyr chambered pistol and fire 9x19 out of it?
Absolutely NOT...
Sorry.
Question What do we do if the metal slide part next to the hammer comes off?
the 9mm largo is a whole lot hotter than the steyr 9mm .It could very well blow it up.I have two an are fun to shoot
Oo a nice old vid grooooovy
And how far this channep has come with the camera operation lol
I didnt know Michael J Fox was a cameraman!
The 9mm Steyr was _more_ powerful than the standard Luger cartridge at the time. 1230fps 388ft/lbs, versus 1180fps, 365ft/lbs.
Yes, there are some extra power *new* Luger rounds that are overpressured and recent guns have been made to accommodate this extra pressure. If there were an upgraded Steyr, that too would have better ballistics. It's not fair to compare a 2020 cartridge and 2020 pistol against a 1912 pistol and cartridge specification. The 9x23mm shell has 4 more mm to house extra powder. Its not rocket science...( actually, it is)
Looks like it wanted to be a 1911.
thank god for john brownings 1911 lol
Barrel lockIt work like px4
hehehe, 52 bullet pick up. :D
John List used this gun
8:27 is always good for a smile. See also: Othais's recent adventure with a Mannlicher 1905. ua-cam.com/video/x4m8u_Ve-O0/v-deo.htmlm20s
"Perfect! Works every time."
I have a steyr 1912 from 1915 with the 08 stamp and the German nazi markings the serial is 7699h cold you tell me the value
Matthew Hansen He has a video on the different variants, and the 9mm conversion (the ones stamped 08 reference the P08 Luger's cartridge, 9x19mm or 9mm parabellum, so yours would be a 9mm conversion just like the one in the video) sold for a hammer price of $1380 (you have to add 10-15%, depending on if you're paying cash or credit, for the auction house's commission) at an auction this summer. If you were to sell yours at auction keep in mind you would also pay a portion (usually 10%) of the hammer price to the auction house, they usually get a percentage from both the seller and the buyer.
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Если бы конструктор придумал эту систему со сменным магазином...это была бы вещь!а так...неочень.😢
Austria nicht deutsch. Ok
the camera work is terrible