EXCLUSIVE: Pilot and flight instructor's opinion on Philadelphia plane crash
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Tonight, FOX 17 News spoke with commercial pilot and flight instructor Robert Katz to get his opinion on the tragic plane crash in Philadelphia on Friday night.
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As a retired corporate pilot with 20k hrs in my book as well as being A n P mechanic for over 50 years, Speculation is the worst thing you can do at this point. It could have been one of a thousand things that went wrong, not shoddy maintenance. It may turn out to be a maintenance issue, but WAY TOO early to say that.
My thoughts and prayers are with all lost on that flight.
We had a very similar accident with a Corporate Jet departing an airport in Ohio and on that one, the pilots failed to set flaps for takeoff, but they just sort of waffled in trying to regain control whereas the jet here came down like a meteor.
What may happen if oxygen tank explodes on board of such a medical jet? It’s just a question, I’m not speculating.
@@richardschindler8822 Well said- too many ‘experts’ out there with their own bias… let’s see what the investigation shows. One thing is sure- NTSB is going to be busy….
Thank you for bringing the common sense.
@@richardschindler8822 agree, not current, but started flying when I was 11. All we know is that something happened fast, and that this is tragic.
Next time you're flying, don't feel so impatient and irritated by those delays, whatever they might be. It's better to be down here on the ground wishing you were up there, than be up there in the air and wishing you were down here.
Yep
Its the "Gethereitus"
4real mon
That 'wish to be down here' always comes true for those who choose to go up there
@@NightEyes267
We have Air ambulances in Australia, when you're in an emergency situation, you don't have a choice.
From footage captured by a Ring door camera. It does not appear to have disintegrated in midair, but rather falls from the sky with incredible speed. Both engines can be heard roaring as the rocket approaches impact.
It is unwise to blame it on poor maintenance without any evidence so far.
@@MaisieAye I'm betting, Icing conditions, loss of lift - weather front moving through with mixed rain and snow, temps dropping.
@@MaisieAye I agree re maintenance. An extremely premature call with no evidence.
As steep as the angle of attack was I would guess the rear stabilizer failed. They did NOT disintegrate in flight. It's clear they nose dived before any explosion.
@@davidav8orpflanz561 the weather wasn't cold enough for icing conditions, they just took off as well no time for ice to accumulate. I'm sure as well if they had ice before takeoff they would have had to de ice before takeoff. I could be wrong but I think it was a stall either from something wrong right after takeoff or pilot error. The problem presented literally right after they left the ground or while they were still on the ground and they couldn't or didn't abort take off.
@trippychick92 If it was a stall, it would more likely fall like a fluttering leaf like that F-35 over Alaska last week.
It seemed to follow a near parabolic trajectory, under full power, from near the last ads-b reported alt of 1600 ft.
So loss of pitch control seems consistent with that path, maybe failure of the controls to, or actuation of, the rear stabilizer.
Suggesting this is because of poor standards of maintenance, is utterly inappropriate at this stage.
@@RichardMcLaren also no inspection or poor inspection or poor maintenance
Agreed
Cover story
Or DEI or drones or UFO's.
Right, it was probably DEI related.
"Deferred, cheapened and neglected maintenance" IS a way of life in America now. When you poison the food, cut corners, under pay, under staff, overwork and keep asking people to live in constant stress and worry about getting their basic needs met, this is what you get, things start falling apart. Sorry, but that is reality.
Profits over people.
Conjecture does not do one any good. With out facts a opinion is just that. We do not know that there was deferred maintenance. Actually he should not be interviewed until the facts are known.
Well, you've chosen a capitalistic system and voted for Fascism. You weren't forced too
Not for the rich tho! They become even richer while we suffer even more..
@@ohwell2790 … Totally agree. There could have been a multitude of reasons that aircraft took a nose dive.
As a pilot, you should be nervous during takeoff. I survived a plane crash at Richmond International Airport in Richmond, VA on April 11, 2011 due to catastrophic left engine failure of my aircraft immediately after takeoff. I suffered 65% burns, 68 total surgeries (so far), 2 amputated fingers on my right hand, a completely rebuilt nose, and hundreds upon hundreds of hours of physical, occupational, and psychological therapy. There are risks to everything we do in life, and some things are simply out of our control. I truly mean this when I say live each day to the fullest, tell your loved ones how much you love them, and be grateful for everything you have. I received a 2nd chance at life, and I’m thankful for that every single day.
I flew into RIC often back then. On the 11th I did a RDU to DCA flight so I went right over RIC. I'll look up the NTSB report. Helluva way to avoid tax deadline.
Okay, a fellow freight dog flying a Chieftan. Did no one tell you those things are fire hazards? I can't believe I didn't hear about that until just now. Godspeed and don't ever give up! !
14 yrs of freight doggin in a 49 yr career, PA-32, PA-34, BE-55/58, C-402, E-110, C-208, SA227.
I’m so sorry that happened. I hope you’re doing better…
No way, you’re Tony from the April 11th piper chieftain crash??? I remember hearing the story about you and how your wife took care of you every step of the way. Great to hear you’re doing well
done some skydiving. Takeoff and climb out is terrifying. Only reason I'm aware of the rate of engine failures on take off and the existence of a critical engine on a twin engine airplane. I've seen videos of a King Air and Queen Air just roll over the dead engine and nose dive. Also on a jump plane sometimes when the weight and balance of jumpers at the door isn't right it causes a stall that looks a lot like it's a roll over and dive - I think it has something to do with throttling back the left engine to reduce prop blast as well. Been wondering if it was a left engine failure this whole time.
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What a blessing you are still here. As a Hospice patient i can relate to when u said "be grateful for everyday, tell people u love them and be grateful for everything"
I believe i am truly blessed becuz i know what is going to hapoen and i have had the time to make amends to those i have hurt, i have had time to tell my people i love them.
I hope you are doing better.God bless you
One thing I learned in aviation... Never ever talk to the news crew that shows up!
They will screw the story up guaranteed!
@@Whiskey9o5 something like this , a small plane was heard sputtering overhead, then the pilot tried to heroically steer it away from residential houses and was called a hero
Then don't allow yourself to have Gell Mann Amnesia...
i wrote a similar post earlier tonight. The majority of news reporter want to make everything political !
@tommyhooks7767
Like the POTUS did the other day? Save the grown up talks for grown ups.
plane had a hole
So very sad my condolences to the families of the deceased R.I.P
Man, get a grip you think that was a explosion from a 55 and how the public can be fooled. Let’s see the debris field.
@@bthompson1767 They never said that.
@bthompson1767
Seen the debris field…it was a plane you goof ball. Throw away your tin foil hat.
@wutangisforever2798 DON’T waste your time. Even with plane wreckage outside the Pentagon on 9/11 the conspiracy whackos still think it was a missile (and the plane pieces were planted)
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everyone was waiting for YOUR condolences
From the footage captured on a Ring door camera. It does not seem to have disintegrated in mid air, but falls out of the sky at tremendous speed. Both engines can clearly be heard roaring as it rockets toward impact.
It is unwise to blame it on poor maintenance without a shred of evidence so far.
It did not look like the plane was in free fall.
@@jimturpin6503 It certainly wasn't freefall . That was powered / accelerating downward flight.
@@GHOST-hd4wm… you must be a MAGA voter.
@@DavePocklington that midair explosion though. Could it be that an oxygen tank exploded?
@@copaloadofthis Why would you say that?
That is an incredibly bold statement, Mr aviation expert…
Freedom of speech, or did trump sign an executive order against that in the middle of the night🤥
@@deb7907 Freedom of speech does not prevent the company that was operating the plane from filing a lawsuit against the TV station and their "expert" for pushing the idea that this was caused by their plane not being properly maintained, with zero evidence offered by the station and their "expert" to indicate that it was a maintenance issue.
I was thinking about the same thing. This sudden malfunction could not be due to anything these pilots (very experienced) have done. The plane was not in good shape. This expert just re-iterated the possibility. How sad.
How awful & heart breaking. My thoughts and prayers go out to that little girl & her mom returning home to Mexico as well as that brave air ambulance flight crew. RIP🙏
Golden rule in aviation, if you are a pilot or not just dont speculate. Wait for the proper investigation to come out.
Yes, It is better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt
@joaoleitao3320 I've seen videos on Jeju that go into detail on what is *possible,* what the investigation is going to be looking for, and the like. I found those to be very informative. They truly shared their expertise.
This clown just wanted to sound like an expert.
It's time that opinions are presented as facts. It's been a long time coming.
Why? People are interested. You sound like the UK.
@@joaoleitao3320 Well the plane did disintegrate in less than 30seconds.
So sad for all of the souls lost and their families 😥
That was complete BS. Video shows what looks like a fully intact aircraft hitting the ground under heavy throttle. And this guy is claiming poor maintenance caused a mid-air break-up? WTF? That’s one hell of a speculation to make with zero evidence to support it unless he’s holding maintenance logs and is privy to unreleased video.
@@Holden-McGroin I just saw the video, and the jet was on fire as it came down. Plain as day. It was fireball!
@@lifeissweet9826 It's not plain as day, actually. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think it's this clear.
There are more videos where you can see the mid-air explosion and free fall
Ok, but the plane was on fire before it crashed.
@@nicolelyons3146 Do you know what the free fall means? This plane was not in a free fall !!! It was a steep powered dive. The free fall you could see days earlier in the Washington DC, right after the aircrafts collided in mid air
Very sad and tragic, it should have been a good day for this child and her family. Condolences to all the victims and their families.
everyone was waiting for YOUR condolences
@@Capecodham or maybe your condolences.. try it
prayers for the families😢🙏🏽
In some of the videos, the airplane is clearly intact before impact. Moreover, the plane was descending in a nose-down attitude and descending so fast as to indicate the aircraft was at near to full throttle. From the numerous videos available, it does not appear the aircraft broke up in the sky but, for whatever reason, simply dove into the ground at full speed.
@@RichardSpeights gravity?
@@RichardSpeights it was going awfully fast but I've seen a few videos where it looked like two separate pieces on fire before it hit the ground.
@@JoanieJel
I'm not saying something fell off. It's possible pieces were falling off or had broken off. The expert said he believe the entire plane broke apart at altitude, by which he explained the plane's disappearance from radar.
By moving the one particular video frame by frame, occasionally an image of a complete aircraft appears. It was intact.
@@RoseSharon7777
I would say it was diving under power. It came down awfully fast.
@@JoanieJel it wasn’t at high enough altitude to break up it was only 1,600 ft
The engines were screaming and speeding up due to its increased speed at a downward force. It did not explode. Until it hit the ground. Rest in peace all the victims my prayers go out. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@charlespaluha1247 No, those engines don't speed up as you described!
It was on fire before it hit the ground.
I agree, those engines were going full throttle to fly that jet fast and furious into the ground. I think the jet was affected by the rain, especially if it sat on a tarmac out in the rain, when it should be sitting in a hangar, prior to flying it. RAIN CAN GET INTO THOSE PETO TUBES, AND CAN CAUSE THE COMPUTER SYSTEM WIRES TO GO HAYWIRE, PROBABLY A-LOT OF WARNING’S GOING OFF IN JET, AND THAT IS WHY THEY WERE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH THE TOWERS. THEY WERE BUSY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THOSE WARNINGS GOING OFF. I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN ON, SMITHSONIAN AIR DISASTER SHOWS, WITH OTHER CRASHES.
It was already in fire as it descended toward the ground. You are incorrect.
@@orthopraxis235 there's a difference between a fire and an explosion. Common sense should tell you this 😂
"Deferred, cheapened and neglected maintenance" is something no expert would say without a close examination to the maintenance log book and the remains of the aircraft
Yea, he did say 'pure speculation' but seriously what a dumb thing to say. I think he is just trying to give them something and hope that they keep calling back. With the rate the thing headed for the ground I'd say it was intact and under power. But that is pure speculation. I'd say my opinion as as good as his and i'm not a pilot.
@ the found the biggest loser in Philly for their "aviation expert"
It’s Fox, so…
That’s an irresponsible statement to say cheap maintenance!🤮
Agree.
@@wallywally8282 Cheap maintenance by big business crooks.
Why? Look under every stone.
@wallywally8282 if it is the truth, we can't hide the truth. It was an engine problem for sure...
Good grief! He said his speculation! His opinion.
your "expert" has no idea wtf he's talking about
because.... you do???
@@cmillerg6306 we'll see after the investigation perhaps
@@cmillerg6306 yeah and I can tell you the lear hit the ground intact with power on. There was no “mid flight explosion”. Absolute nonsense.
@@andrewwilkey6195 100% there is footage showing it spear in..... fully intact!
Also looked like it was at full throttle.
@@andrewwilkey6195 You were there to see it "hit the ground intact?" Didn't think so.
There is way too much speculation from this cat. He has no idea.
At least he has *some qualifications*.... what are yours?
And this was aired on President StenchPant's propaganda network.
@@superbwater78 the entire plane plummeted to the ground, so it didn’t “disintegrate”
He does say that it is "purely speculation". At this point no one knows anything and it would be absurd to think that someone does.
It clearly didn’t break apart in mid flight as it appeared to be traveling at top speed into the ground.
@@Chris-tq1jy yep. Looked like a missile.
@@Chris-tq1jy so you could make out wings???
@@Chris-tq1jy just because it looks intact in a blurry image does not mean it is, and at those speeds the wings would most likely sheer off... Plus eyewitnesses say it was on fire on the way down, and that debris was found a mile away...
@@jean-lucesterhuizen8279 you can hear the engines at full thrust in a couple of videos. It was definitely not disintegrated in the air but the wings may have come off on the way down, it's possible... and hard to tell if the wings are there or not but there are a lot of videos to look through. Seems like the fuselage was in one piece with the engines still operating. Maybe the tail came off and forced it down?
certain parts of the plane was already broken off
The only thing that guy is "expert" in, is a worthless opinion.
So sad this has happened. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼. My condolences to the family and friends.
everyone was waiting for YOUR condolences. Who the hell do you think is reading your condolences? Certainly not the families. So, your post is all about bragging how much YOU care about being made to seem you care
The plane looked intact and not broken apart as it was spearing into the ground. RIP to the departed souls on the flight and the ground. 🕊️
Either the caller was pranking this "reporter" or we have two people who have no business being broadcast to the world.
No doubt. Wild ass guesses.
@@grabasandwich i totally agree. The pilot guy said it was probably something to do with deferred or missed maintenance. He has absolutely NOTHING on which to base that silly comment.
yup....im not even buying what they are selling..... i do believe something failed but i dont believe it broke apart in flight nor do i think all redundant systems would fail all at once while just marking it up to lack of maintenance...also many videos captured the crash and you can hear the jet engines screaming not to mention the speed in which it hit the ground makes one believe it was full power when it crashed.....something catastrophic happened that took out the flight controls i believe, like maybe complete and total hydraulic loss
Nearly every video of the event shows an apparently intact plane descending to the ground. Not sure where this guy gets "inflight breakup". Given obvious IMC conditions, another scenario that leads to no pilot reports of difficulty is a loss of spatial awareness. He's right that mechanical problems could be to blame, but a failed (uneven) flap retraction could quickly become unrecoverable, no breakup needed.
@gaboonviper85 maybe self harm situation or a serious medical issue with the pilot???
this guy is gonna look dumb once they get all the facts
He better hope that they find some evidence that the company slacked on maintenance. If they don't they're going to sue the shit out of him.
That plane was on fire before it hit the ground.
I thought I saw that, as well...
@ Definitely was yo can see the white flame as it drops before hitting the ground..
@@Neverforget1967 those are lights.
@@charliejones6138 No way, that is flames
The plane looked in one piece power to at least one engine and it was on fire. In my opinion oxygen tank shifted to the rear during climb out and started cabin fire. Rest in peace to everyone who lost their lives.
sO HEARTBREAKING to hear of this airplane tragedy. RIP,may GOD BRING SOLACE AND COMFORT TO ALL INVOLVED.
It's painfully obvious It did NOT disintergrate mid-air and this guy is an "expert" and a flight instructor.... geez
This guest made not one but two very irresponsible comments. First, he doesnt know jack-s*&t about the maintenance records of this aircraft. Second, to suggest this aircraft "disintegrated" in flight without knowing that all four corners are not present at the accident scene, is again IRRESPONSIBLE. This guy is disgraceful.
Common since.
@86FxBdyCpe it is a Fox affiliate.....we all know they broadcast false information. Keep your opinions to yourself until the NTSB has done a thorough investigation and released a report.
Sure. Everyone in the UA-cam comment section becomes a crash investigator, flight instructor, and astronaut the moment a tragedy happens.
The plane is from Mexico, enough said.
@@dantepearl4186 Most likely why some vids turn off comments due to wild speculation.
This is absolute BS speculation.
@@johnwainwright1553 s o whats your take on this?
I agree. There are too many idiot pundits coming on these "news reports" giving their 5 cents worth of bs, pointing the finger of blame before any investigation has been opened.
When I say 'idiot pundits, I mean idiot presidents, such as Trump, as well.
@@johnwainwright1553 I wouldn't even grace it as "speculation." He's just He's sh...tuff up.
Opinions and speculations are facts now. Live with it. If Trump says he knows what happened. It is what happened. Period. Respect your President!!
I was about 10 miles from this when it happened. It had been raining earlier in the day but was merely a drizzle at the time of the crash.
This was a medical flight with a patient on board. It appeared that the airplane was venting massively on the way down, as if an oxygen bottle lit off and caused the aircraft’s destruction before it ever hit the ground. There was not a mayday call by the crew, and there would not have been one if they were already incapacitated by an internal oxygen explosion.
@@scotthill8358 agreed
Maybe they didn't want go back too Mexico and took over the plane like you said no mayday just straight up and straight down . And they said the plane was from Mexico so somebody owe the plane maybe he sent his daughter over here too live in us and if that couldn't happen after the operation then cartels might been his daughter
I have a question for everyone in movies have you ever seen a Mexican in a firing squad that's kind of coment thing that could happen. Yes or no if yes then crazy think can happen
I disagree. It was jet fuel leaked
Cartel did it
I was shocked at the speed it appeared to be going as it approached the ground. Those engines were roaring man. So sad, I sure hope no one on the ground lost their life to this one. Just scary. RIP to those who were on board.
There were people on fire in the ground according to eye witnesses. So incredibly sad
So sad this happened again! My condolences to all the families 🙏
It happens about weekly. You just don’t hear about it.
everyone was waiting for YOUR condolences. Who the hell do you think is reading your condolences? Certainly not the families. So, your post is all about bragging how much YOU care about being made to seem you care
I’m not flying anymore
That's what I'm thinking, too. Not until the next administration, anyway.
I'm not flying at night!
Lol. There are 150,000 flights a day in the US, more than 50m a year. Every year there are more than 1,000 crashes involving small craft such as this in the US. The lady who says she will wait for the next administration is unaware that crashes of these type of craft happen multiple times EVERY day, regardless of the administration.
@@daleviker5884 you do you, boo.
@@Robloxtunz I haven’t flown in a Blackhawk since 1993! Night vision goggles were risky spit!
This guy commenting is an idiot, because it CLEARLY didn't explode in the air.
@@ffjsb what do your years of fast food experience say happened
that notion comes from how far from the site peices were found. with the radius of debris, it exploded at some point, looks like right before it hit the ground. its hard for the site blast to jet debris out almost a mile away.
It looked like it was on fire and disintegrating before it hit the ground.
@@feetinthesand8486 No fireball in the air=NO explosion. It didn't make it a mile from the runway, so debris didn't travel that far either. They didn't reach altitude for that to happen either, so your claim is false.
It was clearly on fire when it crashed.
came down like a missile
@@BRIANnj1 exactly because that's probably what it was
@@LeighHite except it wasn't
@@LeighHite Probs
@LeighHite
Good lord you are dim and uninformed.
@@wutangisforever2798 thanks for the dose of encouragement
From the videos it looks as if the plane was intact when it hit the ground rather than breaking up in mid air.
@@colinallan1962
It was a ball of fire in the air ..
Correct
Nope.
I watched 3 videos carefully (former pilot) and saw the fuselage and I thought one wing was visible, but not both. It was not on fire, it was under power from at least one engine.
It was already on fire before it hit the ground.
Sorry, but there was NO "explosion" in mid air. There may have been a failure of some sort, but NO "explosion" in "midair". Could be a spatial disorientation accident, no one knows yet! To state poor maintance is pure silliness at this point!!
"spatial disorientation" stroke or heart attack?
WD-40 I put it on my toast instead of butter
Crazy facts in mid air wow
The plane had flown earlier in the day.
You folks don't listen very well. He said "probably".
It's irresponsible and unprofessional to speculate, at this point in time, that maintenance neglect was the cause of the crash.
May the victims RIP.
Seeing it being a private company yes it could be a cause
@@Palmstreet-u7x You answered the question in your own repley. All aircraft operate under strict FAA rules whether private or commercial. So, no one at this point knows the cause.
@@ohwell2790 even with those rules and regulations,it goes personal maintenance, lazy worker's,bad quality maintenance and repair.i have watched so many so programs about aircraft crash investigation after a plane crashed due to poor quality of maintenance
How do you think the air France Concorde crashed,due to a bad maintenance on a plane in America which landed on Charles du Gaul airport losing a piece of strip from the engine cowling, and on takeoff 🛫 the Concord ran over it causing the tyre to burst,
Especially when it's based on nothing, as it was here. Coming from a supposed "expert" this is really just misinformation, which some people are no doubt already latching onto as it's what many people *want* to believe.
@ it could be and it could also not be. The point is, it's too early to tell and any mud-throwing, finger-pointing speculations are irresponsible, at this point of the investigation. I am sure there will be someone/someones to blame, eventually.
Neglected maintenance is a common cause for plane crashes but it is far from the only one. It usually takes a number of factors aligning just right to cause a crash (the swiss cheese argument).
How long till trump comes out with something childish and stupid thinking he knows what happened again.
What is he rambling on about. The airplane in no way disintegrated in flight. What a mo mo.
He’s not entirely wrong but he is wrong about the plane breaking apart. It hit the ground with the engines at full tilt. Plenty of the videos show this.
I hope that 'expert' has got a good lawyer.
Only Trump knows what happened. Believe.
My 🙏🙏🙏 for the victims & there families.
It did not explode in midair. There is one video showing a fully intact Lear 55 coming down at approx 60 degrees nose low and rolling. Right out of a cloud. Spatial disorientation comes to mind, especially with the thrust and initial climb angle. No, we typically don't make calls to ATC when we are trying to recover from an unusual attitude. What do you think a controller is going to do for you?
Yeah I saw an interview of a resident that saw it clip a house roof top and then crash intact?
Trump says it's DEI.
@@Ericmwangii i belive Mr trump he is very smart businesman
it looked like it was on fire nose diving
@@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity but we apparently do speculate with absolutely no evidence like this so called "expert" on the news.
This is fraught with irresponsible speculation, and as someone who grew up around aviation this is nauseating to listen to. The videos shown while he's speaking show the plane descending without any visible fire, merely the landing lights illuminating the fog/clouds. Also, so far there's nothing to suggest an in-flight breakup (no videos, even the clearer ones, show multiple parts falling) and the lack of other explosions suggest the plane is intact, as in none of the fuel tanks impacted elsewhere. Add on a claim that it was poor maintenance practice without anything to back that up, and this is nothing short of tasteless right now. Experience doesn't automatically equal credibility, and this shows that. Leave speculation out of this, respect the families, let the investigators do their work.
This guy sure does make some magnificent speculations. Amazingly irresponsible. Wow!!!!
Dude. 2:25 frame by frame we see the strobe on the tail immediately and again just before it hits the ground. The plane appears intact, and from the other (ring doorbell) angle wings basically level, but nose down 80% or so. 'Exploded' and 'disintegrated in mid air' is a BIG CALL, but he must be right, he's very confident, stating it as fact.
the explosion didn't happen til the plane hit the ground .
were you there?
@@arus2980 ua-cam.com/video/WgRCwRMaQfI/v-deo.html none of the videos show it to be on fire in the air, the plane has lights that are on and the engines are at full thrust.
@@arus2980 The simple fact is that *nothing* shows an explosion in the air, so there was no basis to the "expert" speculation, seemingly based solely on not showing up on more radar returns - which clearly doesn't require an "explosion".
The 3 altitude values were each 15-16 seconds apart, considering how low it was & how rapidly the plane descended it could easily have been below radar or perhaps even have hit the ground within 15 seconds after the last return.
The *only* explosion we've seen was when it hit the ground, and people who were there did not report an explosion in the air, so their comment is entirely valid.
It was on fire...something ignited a strong and sudden fire....Lear 55 is a very good airplane....one heck of a fast and powerful jet.
It's very doubtful that it exploded in the air. How can it explode on the ground?But also explode in air? And if it did explode in the air it wouldn't look like a rocket heading to Earth. If it exploded in the air it wouldn't be aero dynamic.Therefore it wouldn't look like a rocket hitting earth. Do you get it?
It's somewhat common sense
I have another theory. Just a theory that shouldn't be neglected. This medical procedure for this patient is extremely expensive. The private jet, two doctors, pilots, and passengers from Mexico to a US hospital, and a return. No one has asked who the father was? What did he do in Mexico? Was he a rich businessman? A government official? Or someone connected to a Cartel? The reason I ask is because I think it possible, and only a theory, that someone wanted to send a message to the parents. The plane was close enough to warrant a bomb aboard being triggered by a cell phone as it was taking off. Cell tower data should be checked at the time of the crash.
While this theory may be way off base, I still think it needs to be looked into. It is curious that no one has interviewed the parents of the child in question. That alone adds to my theory. You'd think the father would want to offer a statement. I'd like to see the persons that I am extending condolences.
America's kooky media won't mention that
A good question. Perhaps the parents were with the child, or perhaps the "medevac" was a "cover" for the transportation of something illicit. ( I just don't want to believe a sweet child died like that.)
they were flying to Springfield, MO, SGF.
Is it possible the plane inhaled an illegally-flown drone?
Wow! The speculation is strong with these 2!!!
dude with 43 years experience probably knows a thing or two holmes.
No kidding. Holy hell. 😂
@@anotheryoutubechannel4809Even the NTSB doesn't speculate.
America, a third world country with money!
Well said Senor!
And the plane exploded with a full tank of fuel so the plane couldn't have hit in mid air
Not full
It would only of had enough fuel to reach the intended airport and very little extra for emergencies if needed to fly to a nearby airport
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Many years ago they would fill it to capacity
The cost of flying made airlines to only fuel a plane with what is needed to reach intended airport
Great reporting by bringing this particular expert.
I saw two videos that show the Lear intact and coming down fast. Audio even sounded like there was power to at least one engine.
Agree - I saw those videos, too. According to a pilot that flies these small craft, a weight imbalance on the plane could affect a plane's stability and a pilot's ability to control the plane.
Not really, the plane was on fire before it hit the ground. You are trying to imply this was a kamikaze operation. Hate will not win.
This is horrible! My condolences to the lives lost and the grieving Families that have to go through this ordeal!
Who the hell do you think is reading your condolences? Certainly not the families. So, your post is all about bragging how much YOU care about being made to seem you care
Lord be the family’s that lost their loved ones on that plane😞
Hummmm how does this “expert” know that it wasn’t possibly some equipment on board that malfunction that caused the explosion?
He has no idea. To say "poor maintance " is really silly at this point. He has NO idea whatsoever. I'm a pilot and it could be several things. TOO earily for ANYONE to know, yet!! The airplane did not ecplode until it hit the parking lot!!
Maybe he didn't consider that, having so few facts.
@Paula-ps1vi Or someone angry that the child was from across the border?
Because it didn’t explode in the air dumbass
Just proof that families can go together @@patriciaschuster1371
The jet was whole when it hit the ground. This dude has no clue what he is talking about.
What?! 1:51 Qualifying a comment with a standard "pure speculation" disclaimer does not excuse the egregiously conjectural and as yet entirely unsubstantiated statement that comes after it. Obviously it was a "catastrophic failure" of some kind. But to make the leap from that to the cause being "probably deferred, cheapened or neglected maintenance" is asinine -- and borderline slanderous. This guy better HOPE it was a maintenance issue. If not, he's looking at a potential civil claim from the jet's owners for gross defamation.
The MOST dangerous part of flight is the first and last 50 miles, that's take-off and landing. What happened at Philadelphia and Washington demonstrate this unfortunate reality. Condolences to all who are affected by these tragedies.
@@CheekyBird888 I betting something incapacitated both pilots. On the ring doorbell engines are roaring at full throttle all the way to the ground.
BS. A helicopter flying into you is not a danger it is a hazard.
The NTSB has the best crash investigators on planet earth. They will break this down thoroughly. Both this and the Washington crash that was the fault of the Black Hawk flying nearly 200 feet higher than it should’ve been. 👍🏻✌🏻
Lately it's been the first or last 400 feet.
@@joshmccarty8800 Might a large 'cheeky bird' have smashed through a cockpit windshield ? Whatever, we'll probably know soon enough.
This is an extremely irresponsible report, based on no evidence, and seat of the pants accusations from an unqualified commenter.
Hopefully the lawyers representing the company and the families of the flight crew are already filing the appropriate defamation lawsuits against this slanderous abuser, whose communications will be quickly met with the requisite "Cease and Desist" order.
How can you say it broke apart in mid-air when there's clear video of the intact airplane smashing into the ground?
What clear video? Can you see the wings and the tail? All I can see is a fireball hurling into the ground.
It sounds so reasonable this pilot interview and you can see his deep sympathy and professionalism in his voice
This was horrific!
This so called expert is ignorant! Saying cheap maintenance, when he doesn’t have maintenance records, and the jet did not break up in flight. Was he on something when he went on air?
He said "probably". While you have him all figured out as being ignorant. You gotta be a magat, right?
Ha. Look at the whole comment section full of pilots and armchair professionals.
@@dantepearl4186 "Ha", look at the simple facts. He has no basis for a supposed "explosion" let alone it's obviously inherently pure speculation to pin this on maintenance. He also directly contradicts other pilots.
It seems pretty clear that his whole basis was nothing more than "it didn't have another altitude reading" after the 3 returns, when it could've even hit the ground before there was time for the next reading.
Wow, so much irresponsible speculation.
All videos showed what looked like the main fuselage coming into the ground like a screaming rocket. The aircraft should have a flight data recorder, which will hopefully give some insight as to the cause of the crash. Also, how old is the airframe? When was last inspected? Who worked on it. A thousand questions.
Please don’t make any comments if you aren’t sure what the hell you’re talking about. Airplane did not explode in midair. So so sad and their souls may Rest in Peace🪦.
It looked exactly like a missile coming down then a helluva explosion. 💥
And how are you sure what you are talking about? How do you know the plane didn't explode in midair? You are no different from everyoby else.
This guy is an expert? Did he not watch the video ?
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@@arus2980 dems or driving?
Dems or dei
and dems will be blaming Trump for this right now. Both are wrong.
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I saw other vids, it doesn't appear it has disintegrated in the air. Looks like it hit the ground in one piece. This analysis is flawed !
It was already in flames too.
@@bandido7994 Yeah i saw that later
If this "experts" brains were dynamite, he couldn't even blow his nose!
♥️ *My heart goes out to all those who sadly lost their lives and to the family* ♥️
So sad, prayers to the deceased.
We pray FOR the deceased, not TO them.
There are screenshots or photos of the jet in one piece pointing almost straight down before impact. The “pilot” commenting that it disintegrated in midair is not accurate.
It did not disintegrate in flight. It didn’t appear to have catastrophe explosion before impact. It appeared to nosedive straight into the ground and had at least one blinking light working during the decent. Did this guy watch the videos?
How do you explain the fact that the plane was on fire before it crashed?
@@Littlebigbot The plane was rolling on decent and reflecting the lights from the ground. You can clearly see the navigation lights still blinking before it crashed into the ground. It could have been a bird strike. Any midair catastrophe explosion would have set off the jet fuel and burned before hitting the ground.
Have heard ZERO evidence that this aircraft disintegrated in mid-air or was poorly maintained - honestly have no idea from where this guy is pulling his speculation. Let investigators do their job. RIP to poor souls onboard 🙏
Who is this guy sudden catastrophic explosion in mid air? I understand your speculating but that's not what any of the videos show
The plane didn't look like it 'exploded' in midair. It dove straight down like a missle until it hit the ground.
So what maintenance issue could cause a plane to explode like that? Maybe...1) something was planted. 2) a medical oxygen tank. 3) an engine? Any ideas?
Exactly. “Cheapen maintenance” is what a racist would say.
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@@RoseSharon7777 flaps, or something that has to do with the engines stalling
@RoseSharon7777, there was mention of them finding an oxygen tank near the crash site.
Because of the open border, I tend to consider foul play. Some say it looks like the plane was on fire during descent. I've never seen footage of a plane doing a nose dive like that.
The BEST analysis for this crash is in the video titled *Lear Jet Med Evac Crash KPNE 31 Jan 2025*
The analysis offered in the video above is way off. That plane hit the ground at over 250 knots. That is not a stall. It did NOT disintagrate in the air. You would do well to go watch the video I mentioned in the first paragraph.
Was there oxygen tanks on board that plane
@@saveamericanfreedom2400 yes
@saveamericanfreedom2400 every medical flight has O2. Oxygen doesn't explode. It just supports combustion. It still needs a separate fuel source for an explosion.
Jets like that are required to have an oxygen tank for use if there is a loss of cabin pressurization - the pilots have oxygen masks in the cockpit and there are oxygen masks that can drop down from the ceiling in the passenger section. Since it was a medical flight, the medical crew should have also had some sort of portable oxygen tank separate from the aircraft oxygen tank.
I've been a Flight Medic and Flight Nurse for 45 years since 1979, and know many Physicians, Nurses and Paramedics at Jet Rescue Air Ambulance. ALL OF THEM said the pilots are top notch, so whatever happened to cause this departure from controlled flight happened very fast.
"Exploded in mid air" where did they get this incompetent buffoon ? or is this what's regarded as an expert pilot in the US ..... if so, that is truly terrifying
On all footage it's clearly on fire before hitting the ground.
Oxygen tank blew
@@wattage2007ahhh moron number 2... on fire maybe ! but not exploded. Maybe look it up on google on what the definitions of those 2 words mean.
ADSB data show the plane making a climbing left turn while in the clouds (400ft ceiling). Soon thereafter, the climb transitioned into a descent, and it appeared the crew were still in control of the aircraft even though they were flying it into the ground. There appeared to be no pilot-initiated evasive actions, and no radio calls. All in a climbing turn in IMC. It will be a long while before any probable cause is identified, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be spatial disorientation.
Pilot on Fox just claimed this plane was only in flight for 30 seconds before crashing
@@shawnyoung3193 maybe a pilot had a stroke and fell against the yoke and feet messed up the rudders.
@@shawnyoung3193 I heard another news station say 3 seconds. 🤷♀️
Gee, just like they said in this video.
@@shawnyoung3193 he was being painted by radar for 30 sec. He flew to 1400’ AGL, 4 miles from airport.
definetly spacial disorentation
😢😢😢sending prayers for peace and comfort to family and friends.
Every pilot is an "expert"
@@billyhorton5779 Actually they are because they possess knowledge and experience that people who aren’t pilots don’t have. The greater the volume and variety of experience the more expert they are.
In this case the pilot commentator was asked to speculate about the possible cause and that is exactly what he did …..speculate. But, his speculation was likely more informed than a non pilot’s because of his experience. It doesn’t make make him right, just more experienced and trained than most of us.
@@billyhorton5779 What are your qualifications?
@@jamessimms415 He is a youtube commentator, and thereby an expert.
But in various videos there's NO mid-air explosion. It appears that the jet just takes a quick dive and bursts into a massive explosion upon crashing to the ground. There's video from dash cams, cell phones and ring cams that do NOT show any explosions in the sky.
Oxygen tanks aren't the only explosive things that would cause the plane to break up in midair...