proving the Red Gourd is beyond useless ⁽ᵃⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵉⁿ ᶠᵃᶦˡᶦⁿᵍ⁾ - SEKIRO
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- There's a lot of counters to the burn status, but can you actually count on them?ᴵ'ᵐ ˢᵒ ˢᵒʳʳʸ ᶠᵒʳ ᵉᵛᵉʳ ᵈᵒᵘᵇᵗᶦⁿᵍ ʸᵒᵘ ʳᵉᵈ ᵍᵒᵘʳᵈ...
Timecodes for time travellers-
0:00- Meet the Red Gourd & Dousing Powders :)
0:43- Ministry Dousing Powder is odd
2:58- Burn Status Resist Tests
5:29- Do they reduce Fire Damage?
10:49- Bonus data
1:1:53- Conclusion
Big thanks to my Patreons for spicy gourd juice 🥤
/ limitbreakers - Ігри
The steaming umbrella isn't a bug, actually! If you store enough damage, the umbrella will steam. You then can use the projected force skill and it will be able to shoot a projectile from your umbrella with the cross slash attack. It goes pretty far!
I had no idea... I need to stop using the firecracker
It's unfortunate Limit felt the need to pin this correcting comment, since it's clearly useful data
I can't imagine this will increase his vacation hours
@@chompythebeast its counterplay vs burn, how useful can it be
@@LimitBreakers its ok, fire cracker and shuriken gap close are the only viable prosthetics anyway
@@zonkrt3463 It's not just for burn/fire attacks though. It happens against any projectile attacks, so it's actually still useful information.
2:08 unsubscribed
7:38 resubscribed
Confirmed Vaati hates sekiro lore
holy shit it’s vaati
@@dogfellow3848 you confirmed the exact wrong thing.
He unsubscribed when limit said "oh, and there's lore, but who cares". He unsubscribed because he disagreed and found that a terrible statement. Because he loves lore.
I can't believe I had to explain that joke...
And if you say that being wrong "is a joke".. 😄
@@FFKonoko I dunno dude I just wanted to say something funny, logic and "correctness" be dammed
Funny thing is he isn’t even subbed to this guy
I don't want to look into burn anymore. The invention of fire was a mistake.
don't look into burn
Old Man BURNy Sanders 🔥
A scholar told me it was the first sin
Fire nation disapproves this message😡
It's a MIRACLE there's still so much useless data to examine, I know you work hard to BUILD these videos.
Increases Burn Resistance: "You act like you're better than me!"
Slightly Increases Burn Resistance: "Yes"
Can't resist *that* burn.
Wait, if the grandson's name is limit then that means the whole purpose of the channel is to break him physically and emotionally, now I truly feel bad for him.
D E E P E S T L O R E
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D E E P E S T L O R E
D E E P E S T L O R E
The various status effect gourds were honestly one of Sekiro’s neatest new mechanics, it’s a very nice solution to the tendency a lot of players have to hoard the consumable curing items, while also not completely overshadowing those items.
The wonderous Physick was an even better solution though
I hoard consumables and also never use them because they all suck
@@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 I use consumables in Bloodborne and then never have them when I actually need them because they have to be restocked manually.
The boluses of elden ring should work the same way, only healing the buildup is not enough, giving a small temporary extra resistence after consuming them would make them more worth using
@@abrahamrangel2326 That sounds like something a physick tear should do
"Bearer, Seek... Seek..."
- This year's hottest mixtape
That's why Old man was on fire at the beginning. His walkman caught fire and then him, from that mix tape.
"This year"?🤭
@@nadirmerahnm It wins every year, consecutively.
It almost seems like they were planning to have a DS3 style gourd balance system where you could shift some of your healing gourd drinks over to the status effect ones, but then decided to scrap that idea when playtesters just went for all heals all the time.
Ya...Everyone just choosing only healing potions has more or less been true in every game they have put it in. As hp is more valuable then pretty much everything by each game's very design making it a none choice in every single game.
I am really surprised they are still trying it at this point.
@@Warcrafter4 You haven't run a spell build, then.
@@grfrjiglstan thats for DS3, not sekiros case. The only gourd that would be worth IS the terror one to hunt shichimen...
@@Warcrafter4 It's an interesting concept though, gotta hand it to the devs.
Maybe it would've worked if the status effect gourds used their "status drinks" pool that was separate from the healing one, or at least had a VERY favorable conversion rate?
"Stop swamp shaming me" - Miyazaki XD
Fun fact: the Interior Ministry troops that you can find dead on the field at the gate where you fight Oniwa Gyoubu bear the crest of the Toyotomi clan, who during the Sengoku era were unifying Japan under Toyotomi Hideyoshi, who was continuing the work of a recently killed Oda Nobunaga. Oda Nobunaga is famous for, among many other things, burning down the temples of both Enryaku-ji and Ishiyama Honganji, killing possibly anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 people in each incident. Hideyoshi - then Hashiba Hideyoshi before he changed his name - was with Nobunaga during those campaigns and was likely present during the burnings. That - in my opinion - could possibly have been some of the inspiration for the dev team’s decision to have Hideyoshi burn Ashina to the ground using mostly flame weaponry. Possibly.
I just love how Sekiro, unlike the other souls, is just set in our world but with magic and souls logic. I would love to see more of that
The steam of the umbrella isn't a bug, it's to show that it's fully charged from deflecting projectiles
Now the true question is...
Is it possible that the grandson can do something that grandpa considered impossible?
Like making miracle build?
You know what else might make you catch fire? Standing too close to Helicopter Man in ER when he takes off (or at least uses Black Flame Tornado).
ᵂᴴᴱᴿᴱ ᴵˢ ᴴᴱ ᴼᴸᴰ ᴹᴬᴺ
He is dead again - let him rest.
As usual, FuturePress Official Guide offers a clearer explaination of the effect of these items:
Green Mossy Gourd = Removes Poison Build-up + Reduces Build-up speed by 70% for 30 seconds.
Antidote Powder = Cures Poison Abnormality + Removes Poison Build-up + Reduces Build-up speed by 70% for 30 seconds.
Withered Red Gourd = Removes Burn Build-up + Reduces Build-up speed by 70% & Fire Damage by 50% for 30 seconds.
Dousing Powder = Cures Burn Abnormality + Removes Burn Build-up + Reduces Build-up speed by 60% & Fire Damage by 40% for 30 seconds.
Ministry Dousing Powder = Cures Burn Abnormality + Removes Burn Build-up + Reduces Build-up speed by 80% & Fire Damage by 60% for 30 seconds.
Mottled Purple Gourd = Removes Terror Build-up + Reduces Build-up speed by 50% for 30 seconds.
Pacifying Agent = = Removes Terror Build-up + Reduces Build-up amount by 50% for 30 seconds.
I wish I knew this earlier...
@@LimitBreakers Eyeball it.
Future Press’ books are top-of-the-line, honestly. More comprehensive than the wikis, and I get the bonus of feeling like a wizard paging through tomes of knowledge whenever I need to know where a material is.
Miyazaki and completely useless consumables, name a more iconic duo that does not include poison swamps.
Ekhem
Common Fruit
FromSoft and half-assed story lore passed off as genius writing
@@Ahrpigi if your reading comprehension is on elemetary school level then maybe
Camera jank and lethal falls.
@@Archimedes.5000 No, there's isn't really any mind-blowing story in Elden Ring, just the barest amount of lore for it to make some sense so they can pretend there's a deep story without actually writing it
being thorough is never a waste of time
So, since you dont have a sense of taste, i can just show you my findings.
The gourd taste the best and if feels good to drink it, its a little spicy and have an aftertaste of mint.
The other two are honestly so similar its not even funny, some bitter tasting powder that gives me brain freeze if i eat too much too quickly.
10/10, would munch agen.
Max elden ring regen? Both on hit and over time grandpa. It would pair well with the max health video.
It'd pair really really well with a -miracle- incantation build video.
@@PunkZombie1300 I'd say so aswell
@@PunkZombie1300 lol there's nothing particularly meme-y or jankey that hasn't been done to death already.
I mean, Limit could do the ol' Triple Rings of Light into Spell Parry, but his more *U S E F U L* little brother Crightt already did a build of that.
@@monsieurdorgat6864 Even so it still uses a exploit no matter how small and to limit yourself to one spell is just lame. Besides why deny grandpa a chance to make elden stares dare I say. *V I A B L E*
@@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames I summarized the build - there were more spells to it than that.
Elden Stars isn't good for duels, but it's kind of useful if you're a host and you get invaded. Elden Stars is the weaker, faith version of the old Stars of Ruin. It's probably a faith caster's best long range option besides dragon breath.
Still, neither really fit well into the builds limit usually makes, which have to have some kind of meme to them.
technically poison has the "contact medicine" item, it doesn't cure poison (it actually poisons you) but its suppose to act as a counter to the poison status effect.
So. Its medicine thats expired? Basically?
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 It's intentionally poisonous. The idea is that the weak poison prevents you being affected by stronger poisons
@@edwardking9359 For poisons that work by binding to your bodies cells, if a much more prevalent amount of a weaker toxin has already been strongly bound to your cells, than a stronger toxin would have to be administered in an even greater dosage and over an even longer period than would even be feasible in combat.
I have been waiting 10 years for miracle build. I will wait ten more, and ten more after that.
I would unironically listen to a mixtape tbh
I need that Emerald Herald Lofi track fr
Grandson's voice has gotten to clear and clean. Better mic, it sounds like, but also just smooth speech. Very soothing voice, clear accent
I appreciate the tf2 lines about fire
These descriptions remind me a lot of the Bowsers Inside Story remake. The game where "a small amount" (30%) is more than "a good amount" (20%) but also worse than "a small amount" (10%)
I don't understand why developers would hide numbers from players. Testing everything on your own is just tedious, especially in cases like Terror mechanic, that will strictly kill you, if you take status bar to fullest. I would gladly know how much my items slow damn bar before I try it...
@@Harevald That's just chronic minmaxing. At least for Sekiro
After all these years, I still find great enjoyment in TF2 references.
The Miyazaki model got me, now I wanna play all the souls games as him
I'm gonna guess the "Bug with the umbrella steaming" is related to the Projected Force ability. You always get that effect to let you know Projected Force is charged!
I have a question that might be intresting to look into! It's about the spin of the umbrella. There seems to be some wiggle room while deflecting flurry attacks where you deflect one move and the rest don't technically get delfected but don't get blocked either.
"Sekiro - Inner Genichiro No HUD Cinematic Flawless" from ONGBAL demostrates this. You can't see it since it's HUDless but in other videos with HUD you can see that the flurry dosen't break posture or causes chip damage while charmless and yet it's from a single deflect.
I think something similar happens with isshin's pistol flurry.
Maybe mechanically these are redundant, but I bet there's a lore reason that everyone is so afraid of fire. Like maybe if some entity in game turned people into monstrosities of firey rage, they'd have spiritual reasons to be extra wary of fire. 🤔
Yes I am being a smart ass, this data was too useful
I think the wooden and paper construction of buildings and the fact that fire BURNS are pretty solid reasons. :D
Limit Breakers posts a video
Day instantly improved :)
I NEED that mixtape, to see hope, however faint it might be...
Has it been long enough that "I Seek More" can now be considered a certified classic?
You were this close to making me believe that this was useful data.
The real question though, is which one tastes better?
-e Oh shit he makes that joke at the end. Damn it.
I NEED a proper 10 hour version of that ds2 mix track
Now I know how to beat demon of the mixtape
This is a the quality type of video I've been looking forward to, thanks so much Limit!
Drop that lo-fi mixtape, grandson.
Can you give a full link to the Bearer seek seek lest remix?
The Umbrella steam glitch isn't a glitch but a mechanic where if the umbrella blocks a certain amout of projectiles it can then shoot a projectile itself somehow.
It's stated in the description of the magnetic umbrella, so that makes some semblance of sense at least.
Magnetic umbrella also is really magnetic, so bullets and other similar projectiles will slightly move towards the umbrella when is open
It's my birthday every time this channel uploads, not going to lie. Miss you old man!
Thanks!
Edit: I started playing a "gives me conniptions" video right at the end and the phrase perfectly matched the ending with the bars in silence as it fades to black. Thank you.
You are my favorite UA-camr. I hope you still make videos in like 10 years so I can actually have money to donate
I’m convinced all the fire stuff is specifically for one of the last fights against the Fire demon because on my first playthrough I just couldn’t beat him and cheesed him out of the arena
Play testers got stuck so Miyazaki said “add more fires resistance” then more got stuck “ADD MORE FIRE ITEMS I WILL NOT CHANGE MY CREATION”
Great one Limit Breakers. I'm sure the Old Man will let you take a break soon. Just keep that nose to the grindstone so he doesn't think you want it!
Legendary breakdown and editing. It feels like every video you outdo yourself. “Stop swamp shaming me.” Brilliant.
Where is that mixtape, Limit?
I was just craving a limit breakers video... how convenient
Limit the way your character never stops moving is giving me anxiety
Red Gourd?
No, you are mistaken. It's strawberry flavored water, it's quite refreshing.
Will you be releasing your DS2 mix tape? I bet it's straigth fire.
Seemed like it affected the status recovery speed too.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH
I need that lit Mixtape 🔥
So that’s what “T-posing to assert dominance” looks like.
i thought red gourd increased damage for about a month of playing. it was terrible. every fight i’d be drinkin em
Are you illiterate
I already know this is going to be a good video.
That mixtape is FIRE
I am loving this!!! Always enjoy the Limit vids
An Old Man walks into a bar, his alcoholism is destroying this family...
I coincidentally got an ad about heartburn medication 🔥👌
nice data
but when're we gonna' get a full drop of that herald mixtape, fam?
11:40 Oh hey dude, I think that's a topical medicine you're supposed to *douse* yourself in to extinguish the lingering burns. It's probably a good thing you can't taste anymore.
Old Man cleaning out the bar was a great joke
with all the hidden buffs on red gourd im surprised you didn't try clearing the debuff with it.
I tried, it doesn't work :c
Mr. Limit can you tell me how the artwork at 3:33 is called? It looks sick.
Nice to hear your voice (again) limit breaker your biggest fan
The reason Burn has more ways to counter it than Poison or Terror is probably because fire is much more of a threat in the late game. The Ministry uses a lot of fire, and you also meet the Demon of Hatred.
is the steaming umbrella not the thing to say it's fully charged for the counter-attack? I remember purple one stored elemental damage taken to increase the counter attack damage, so is this the same?
Burn…ABNORMALITY?
*why am i hearing sirens?*
Grandson Limit looks like he has to pee.
“When he’s Spitting hot fire”
You missed a perfect opportunity for a Dy-Lan Chapelles show reference…
Nice sound effect choice for the demon of hate, though I would have gone with more source engine stuff and used a quote from Francis from L4D
"I forgot to take numbers."
*Now listening*
The "boom" audio clip killed me
Your videos are the absolute best.
Honestly, Old Man and Grandson remind me of the vibes that Father and Son from bread boys give off. Just with less yelling
I remember buying the red gourd under the impression it would extinguish the burning status... I was disappointed.
come for the Red Gourd facts, stay for the bonus crap
Anyone know the music used in the transitions??
I am finally playing through Sekiro. Really enjoying it so far, don’t know why I put it off for so long
It sadly seems like it's underappreciated. It's got so many cool fights, and a story you can understand on a surface level without needing to read item descriptions lol. It's easily my favorite From game.
I believe the heal the burn status means when you get afflicted, you use the item and you no longer get afflicted. If you use red gourd while you are burning, you still get burnt for the whole duration. Meanwhile the powder stops the burn thing instantly
Remixed crab music hits different
I still have that Portal jam on my phone as an alarm 😋
grandfather has fed us a new video
What's the beat you used for the "my mixtape" joke? I recognize it somewhere and it's annoying me that I can't place the original sample
I'm like 95% sure it's Muladhara from Digital Devil Saga: ua-cam.com/video/4qnlfL5gfgo/v-deo.html
Thanks, it does sound VERY close
Hey limit, are you still doing the elden ring lightning interaction and spell interaction video?
Can you do a video on the deflecting firebombs in dark souls 2?
Isn't that mixtape sample the Muladhara theme from Digital Devil Saga?
Is there a complete version of that lofi version dark souls 2 mix?
"im gonna break this limit!" john grandson
full version of that mixtape when?
Dude whats the music that starts at 0:45?
clearly the old man is better with numbers, grandson disguising his lack of useless education by saying “i’m just gonna eyeball it”
I am a modder with access to the params and you nailed the fire damage resistance exactly. It is 40% for Dousing Powder, 50% for the Gourd and 60% for the Ministry Dousing Powder. The buffs also reduce the amount of Burn build-up applied by a percent. Dousing Powder is 35%, Red Gourd is 40%, and Ministry Dousing Powder is 45%
Also for anyone curious the Burn damage over time isn't fire damage, the effect is just taking away HP.
The damage is 4 flat hp plus 0.5% hp every second over 9.9 seconds and Sekiro's HP starts at 320 and ends at 1120 increasing by 80 for each Prayer Necklace.
brother i am going to require a full release of that bear seek seek lest mix
A Memento reference? In a limit breakers video? Oh my.
mixtape release when?
Love to hear the TF2 mercs in videos!