Mr. Barton, I don't know if you are still taking care of this UA-cam channel and if you will ever read this, but this is the most pedagogic video that I have ever seen, for any area, and I've seen a lot ! Thank you so much for it. That is exactly how every piece of music should be taught.
Thank you Paul Barton, your youtube channel is a treasure. The way you make your lessons is admirable and should be a model for all piano teachers. Thank you for giving all this knowledge to us.
I have the greatest respect for Paul as a pianist and teacher and have gained a lot from his excellent tutorials, but it seems to me that in this tutorial he misses, or avoids, the whole point of the etude, which seems to me to be to overcome the difficulty of playing the right hand triplet quavers against the left hand triplet crotchets as proper triplets rhythmically. This is easy to do when playing the right hand separately, but a different kettle of fish once you add the left hand, where the right hand quavers demand to become pairs rather than triplets. In other words it is fairly easy to play in what tends to metamorphose into 6/4 time, rather than the 4/4 the piece is written in.
I think pianists ignore this since when you go that fast it doesn't make much of a difference. Although, if you play close attention (easier in ritardando parts), you'll realise they aren't even playing triplets with the right hand... They are paying in 6/4
I do not understand too! Almost all play THIS. It is not right! Duol, not triol, because it’s easier. The left hand falls into weak lobes. And the whole right hand adjusts to ONE -Two-ONE -Two -One -Two or ONE-two-three-one-TWO-three-ONE ...
Is it really a polyrhythm? just think of the right hand triplets as eight notes going into the crotchet triplet? on 1 3 and 5? How is that technically a polyrhythm? Could you explain? Thanks.
Dear Paul -- are you aware of any recordings where a pianist plays the RH mildly accenting each triplet (4 triplets to a bar) as opposed to the "groups of 6" RH playing (the latter does fit within the cut time signature in my Henle edition). I'm wondering why Chopin notated it the way he did instead of in 6/8 with 6 16th notes in RH against 3 eighth notes LH. Was he perhaps aiming for an even more polyrhythmic feel than how most people play it? Thanks again for your tutorials.
Impessive lessons you give on Piano. Congratulations for your works. I use a Midi Controller piano, but it is like having a real piano. Just what I needed to see the hands's movement. Thank you.
I have to address the issue of Chopin having written the etude in a duple meter, which would render the triplets to be played in four groups of three as opposed to the often (and incorrectly) played six groups of two, which mistakenly follows the left hand rhythmic scheme and thus makes it much easier to play. Chopin specifically intended the right hand to be the metrical pulse and the left hand as the cross rhythm. Try playing the triplets as triplets on each 1+2+ according to the indicated meter and the difficulty of the etude becomes quite apparent.
Hi paul, I see you left hand is jumping (you leaving suddenly the first note of the triolets) I learnt that the wrist has to be fluent, to move lightly to the notes because it extends the thumb and allow to get from the E1 to the G2.
This tutorial is so amazing, thank you so much! Helpful in so many different ways. Even though I know the Cortot exercises, I learned a lot more about these exercises and also about Chopin‘s life 😍😍
Thanks for your work, it is very helpful and encouraging! This was the first Chopin study I learned, it is good to start with. I am wondering which Chopin study is appropriate to learn next, do you have recommendations? Thanks!
Fantastic tutorial. Congrats Paul! Wish you will do a tutorial on 10/5. By the way, I have some troubles with the fingerings on 25/2. Can you post which kind of fingering you use? Thx and keep on making these amazing "stories" about the music we love.
Hi Paul! Lovely video, I'm currently learning this piece. You've convinced me to put the 'Rational Principles' exercises to use here. Question: in the sheet I downloaded, bar no.4 is an F minor harmony with F as bass. I saw you use A flat. Is that just a difference in our sheets?
No one can play most Chopin etudes after 1 year of playing piano. What an utter bs. Even after 5 years of playing piano, most people are not being able to play most of the etudes or even one. There are so many techniques which must be mastered perfectly to play them at tempo. I highly doubt that there are many people who mastered 25/6, 10/2 and 25/11 after 4-5 years.
I do not understand too! Almost all play THIS. It is not right! Duol, not triol, because it’s easier. The left hand falls into weak lobes. And the whole right hand adjusts to ONE -Two-ONE -Two -One -Two or ONE-two-three-one-TWO-three-ONE ...
I really like how you motivate people to this kinda music. But as for a piano player who skipped the first video to only learn this piece of music it would be good if you could leave out all the background detail. But thank you anyway for doin this!
Exercises:
10:32|13:42|14:41|15:22 (staccato touch low fingers)|16:03(staccato touch raised fingers)|16:34|17:23|17:38 (staccato)|18:02|18:23 (stretch 2/3)|18:45|19:01|19:09|19:16
Mr. Barton, I don't know if you are still taking care of this UA-cam channel and if you will ever read this, but this is the most pedagogic video that I have ever seen, for any area, and I've seen a lot ! Thank you so much for it. That is exactly how every piece of music should be taught.
I'm sure Chopin would be thoroughly impressed and laud the way you teach this etude. It's a masterclass indeed.
Thank you Paul Barton, your youtube channel is a treasure. The way you make your lessons is admirable and should be a model for all piano teachers. Thank you for giving all this knowledge to us.
If you remove the triplet notes and replace them with quarter notes, it’s a 3:2 polyrhythm (or 6:4)
I have the greatest respect for Paul as a pianist and teacher and have gained a lot from his excellent tutorials, but it seems to me that in this tutorial he misses, or avoids, the whole point of the etude, which seems to me to be to overcome the difficulty of playing the right hand triplet quavers against the left hand triplet crotchets as proper triplets rhythmically. This is easy to do when playing the right hand separately, but a different kettle of fish once you add the left hand, where the right hand quavers demand to become pairs rather than triplets. In other words it is fairly easy to play in what tends to metamorphose into 6/4 time, rather than the 4/4 the piece is written in.
Or should I say the 2/2 it is written in, but still with an underlying four to the bar rather than six.
I think pianists ignore this since when you go that fast it doesn't make much of a difference. Although, if you play close attention (easier in ritardando parts), you'll realise they aren't even playing triplets with the right hand... They are paying in 6/4
I do not understand too! Almost all play THIS. It is not right! Duol, not triol, because it’s easier. The left hand falls into weak lobes. And the whole right hand adjusts to ONE -Two-ONE -Two -One -Two or ONE-two-three-one-TWO-three-ONE ...
this is what I was hoping to get from the tutorial as well.....lol...
Thank you, Paul Barton, Great tutorial!
Paul I was hoping you were going to attempt the etude in octaves at the end there :D
Is it really a polyrhythm? just think of the right hand triplets as eight notes going into the crotchet triplet? on 1 3 and 5? How is that technically a polyrhythm? Could you explain? Thanks.
Paul Barton, you´ve just saved my life!!! Thanks!!!
Excellent tutorial!
Thank you very much Paul Barton.
This will help me very much on my repertoire.
Dear Paul -- are you aware of any recordings where a pianist plays the RH mildly accenting each triplet (4 triplets to a bar) as opposed to the "groups of 6" RH playing (the latter does fit within the cut time signature in my Henle edition). I'm wondering why Chopin notated it the way he did instead of in 6/8 with 6 16th notes in RH against 3 eighth notes LH. Was he perhaps aiming for an even more polyrhythmic feel than how most people play it? Thanks again for your tutorials.
Seriously, Chopin needs to answer some questions if he were alive today.
yes most recordings are actually playing it incorrectly.
Impessive lessons you give on Piano.
Congratulations for your works.
I use a Midi Controller piano, but it is like having a real piano.
Just what I needed to see the hands's movement. Thank you.
paul you're my great and amazing teacher
Thanks for such an in depth, extremely valuable, teaching. Beautiful work in helping to understand Chopin and how to play 25. 2
It’s similiar to fantasy impromptu. ascending and descending notes in arpeggios.
I have to address the issue of Chopin having written the etude in a duple meter, which would render the triplets to be played in four groups of three as opposed to the often (and incorrectly) played six groups of two, which mistakenly follows the left hand rhythmic scheme and thus makes it much easier to play. Chopin specifically intended the right hand to be the metrical pulse and the left hand as the cross rhythm. Try playing the triplets as triplets on each 1+2+ according to the indicated meter and the difficulty of the etude becomes quite apparent.
thank you for your amazing work !
Fantastic video tutorial Paul, very interesting!
27:41
Thank you for doing this tutorial! It's very helpful :)
Hi paul,
I see you left hand is jumping (you leaving suddenly the first note of the triolets)
I learnt that the wrist has to be fluent, to move lightly to the notes because it extends the thumb and allow to get from the E1 to the G2.
hi thanks Paul great excellent tuto, you motivated me to rework it and achieve it this time ! :)
Thank you so much, I watch all your videos, literally you're the best ❤️🎹🙏
in my edition (henle) the right hand also has to play triplets... in your tutorial they sound different, how does that work. Thank you
great great video!
This tutorial is so amazing, thank you so much! Helpful in so many different ways. Even though I know the Cortot exercises, I learned a lot more about these exercises and also about Chopin‘s life 😍😍
Dziękuję za ten film. Bardzo mi pomógł
Thanks for your work, it is very helpful and encouraging!
This was the first Chopin study I learned, it is good to start with. I am wondering which Chopin study is appropriate to learn next, do you have recommendations? Thanks!
Great video Paul !
I've always wanted to play this etude, I think now is the best time for starting ;D
Очень познавательно! Спасибо! Плюс в багаж знаний!
Someone know where is possible to find the Cortot transpositions?
Thank you so much for this!
Fantastic tutorial. Congrats Paul! Wish you will do a tutorial on 10/5.
By the way, I have some troubles with the fingerings on 25/2. Can you post which kind of fingering you use? Thx and keep on making these amazing "stories" about the music we love.
Very interesting work :)
How long have you been playing piano
Hi Paul! Lovely video, I'm currently learning this piece. You've convinced me to put the 'Rational Principles' exercises to use here. Question: in the sheet I downloaded, bar no.4 is an F minor harmony with F as bass. I saw you use A flat. Is that just a difference in our sheets?
Reminder: 21:06
Mr Paul, Did u use all the rational principle book
thank you so much!! :D
Even though I have "big" hands, I find your explanation on small hands very kind
Impromtu op66 is based on this etude?
Mtro Barton is there anyway you put captions on you tutorial so we who don’t understand English well can read, please?
how long did it take you to become this good?
No one can play most Chopin etudes after 1 year of playing piano. What an utter bs. Even after 5 years of playing piano, most people are not being able to play most of the etudes or even one. There are so many techniques which must be mastered perfectly to play them at tempo. I highly doubt that there are many people who mastered 25/6, 10/2 and 25/11 after 4-5 years.
30:45, 31:21, 31:56
What is the music in the intro ?
Besriification ending part of op 25 no 2
Bruh my hand size is a 10th and im 13 xD
It looks like you like to talk about cortot
Do you know Chopin’s blood type?😊
Why is this important??
Dommage je ne parle pas trop anglais 🥲
The right hand has to play triplets... in your tutorial THEY do not sound like TRIPLETS! WHY?
I do not understand too! Almost all play THIS. It is not right! Duol, not triol, because it’s easier. The left hand falls into weak lobes. And the whole right hand adjusts to ONE -Two-ONE -Two -One -Two or ONE-two-three-one-TWO-three-ONE ...
I really like how you motivate people to this kinda music. But as for a piano player who skipped the first video to only learn this piece of music it would be good if you could leave out all the background detail. But thank you anyway for doin this!
agh this is so hard, I cant get the right flow in my hands
Something not good with these two tutorials. The style has changed. You are still one of the best around, though.