Knife Saw 刀锯 - Traditional Chinese Woodworking Tool

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2018
  • 中国传统木工木匠的刀锯。In this video I show you how to make a traditional Chinese woodworking knife saw. The title says "dovetail / short saw" but the correct translated name is "knife saw." This error was due to me not reading the title the Chinese master gave this saw and focusing the process and the fact that I've only ever seen him using this saw to cut the pin side of sliding dovetails. Apologies for the mistake.This is the fourth in a planned 7 video-series focusing on Chinese woodworking tools that are both traditional and different from European and English tools.
    Checkout the links below where I show you how to make a variety of traditional Chinese woodworking tools.
    How to make 7 traditional Chinese woodworking Tools:
    1. Chinese hand plane 刨子 ( • Hand Plane 刨子 - Tradit... )
    2. Chinese frame saw 锯 ( • Frame Saw 中国锯 - Tradit... )
    3. Chinese dovetail Plane 燕尾刨 ( • Adjustable Sliding Dov... )
    4. Chinese Knife Saw 刀锯 ( • Knife Saw 刀锯 - Traditi... )
    5. Chinese cutting gauge 勒刀子 ( • Cutting Gauge 勒刀子 - Tr... )
    6. Chinese bevel gauge 活尺 ( • Bevel Gauge 活尺 - Tradi... )
    7. Chinese styled half moon marking gauge 线勒子 ( • Half Moon Marking Gaug... )
    7b. Offset plate for easy layout of mortise and tenon ( • Offset Plate - Angled ... )
    7c. Foolproof Angled mortise and tenon with the half moon Chinese marking gauge and Offset Plate ( • Foolproof Angled Morti... )
    DIY saw plate ( • DIY Frame Saw Blade fr... )
    Dovetail/knife saw template ( / 1008065991518097408 )
    Traditional Chinese woodworking knife saw by master Xing Quian Sheng (幸全生)
    Part 1/2( • 【传统手工木工教学--工具制作】刀锯制作 )
    Part 2/2( • 【传统手工木工教学--工具制作】刀锯制作第二集 )
    The next planned Chinese woodworking project (5of7) is a cutting gauge. Thank you for watching, enjoy. Let me know if you have any questions.
    John Z Zhu
    www.johnzzhu.com
    @polywright
    2018 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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  • @TheWoodYogi
    @TheWoodYogi 6 років тому +4

    Another great tool, it looks really comfy by shape :) Really looking forward to the sliding dovetail video ॐ

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      Thanks Yogi. Working on editing that one together.

    • @TheWoodYogi
      @TheWoodYogi 6 років тому

      Great :) I like the look of Chinese tools, but there isn't much information about. Do you know of any English translated books? Maybe you could do a series covering the basics of Chinese woodworking or some comparisons / differences to European and American technique ॐ

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      Honestly, I don't think there are drastic differences. I think woodworking is a perfect example of convergent evolution. It's not like you couldn't make European-esc furniture with Chinese tools or vice versa. The commonality is gross and differences tiny.

  • @teentheblue3644
    @teentheblue3644 2 роки тому

    Always reckon this type of Chinese knife saw got to be the best handtool to open a groove/slot that is perpendicular to the grain

  • @AdventuresInDIY
    @AdventuresInDIY 6 років тому +1

    I'm really enjoying the Chinese tool projects!

  • @brightnuertey1451
    @brightnuertey1451 2 роки тому

    Great tortorials keep it up 👍

  • @federico4331
    @federico4331 6 років тому +1

    Thank you John. Great value in your channel.

  • @jessjulian9458
    @jessjulian9458 6 років тому +1

    That looks really good John. Thanks for sharing your talents and experience.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      You're very welcome.

  • @argentorangeok6224
    @argentorangeok6224 5 років тому +1

    You have a very cool channel. Although I'm only interested in pursuing western woodworking methods, I find myself in sheer admiration of the natural, graceful beauty of Chinese and Japanese joinery and lines, and the tools used to make them. That saw is gorgeous and fascinating. Subbed.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  5 років тому

      When I started Western woodworking techniques is all I did (2005-2016). Now I have taken the best of Chinese and European techniques.

  • @timflanigan8586
    @timflanigan8586 4 роки тому

    Really like the two tone handle!

  • @WayofWood
    @WayofWood 6 років тому +1

    Great project. The brass riveting is not only easier but also visually a nice combination with the steel and the wood.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      Thank you. I like it, I just think solid brass is a very classy touch when not over done.

  • @franka5416
    @franka5416 6 років тому +1

    Awesome project and idea, thanks for sharing.

  • @tomlagatol4448
    @tomlagatol4448 6 років тому +1

    Enjoyed the Vid, Thanks!

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      You're very welcome.

  • @robertbrunston5406
    @robertbrunston5406 6 років тому

    Looks cool John! Bet it's pretty handy to use! Thank you.

  • @carlopieracci2828
    @carlopieracci2828 6 років тому

    many thanks Sir for ypur videos. You demonstrate one could works wood with almost no expense of money and still obtains beautiful results.

  • @georgesikonomou3895
    @georgesikonomou3895 6 років тому +1

    Thanks a lot men i realy love this guy and the way he works

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      You're welcome. His approach and mine are very different, you'd have to follow the link in the description to get how he did it.

  • @bonesstones6584
    @bonesstones6584 6 років тому +1

    Excellent!

  • @yaominghe5344
    @yaominghe5344 4 роки тому

    感觉这把刀锯用来开槽相当好使啊

  • @nowhereman112244
    @nowhereman112244 6 років тому +1

    Very nice, enjoy watching your videos

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      Thank you, I make them for viewers like yourself.

  • @maeafrika
    @maeafrika 6 років тому +1

    Sensacional. Você é o cara!

  • @MRrwmac
    @MRrwmac 6 років тому +1

    Very nice and well done project. Looking forward to the build where you use it.
    Dang John, that cutting disc break was a close one for sure! Could have gone right through you. Very very glad you weren’t hurt! The Earth Dog of 4716 must be watching over you!

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      Thanks mac. I was behind the disc, it flung forward and down from me. But I agree I am blessed. You know what they say "don't tempt your Lord God," so I always try to remember to put on battle gear.

  • @SebR-FR
    @SebR-FR 5 років тому +1

    Great ! thx :)

  • @kevindumais9610
    @kevindumais9610 6 років тому +3

    I like the hand made saw blade.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому +1

      Thanks, you might want to check out the link to the more detailed method of making a saw blade.

    • @johnsoncustomcarpentry6844
      @johnsoncustomcarpentry6844 6 років тому +1

      Very impressed, I thought you was going to repurpose an old blade. Nice work!

  • @crazymcrazym1483
    @crazymcrazym1483 6 років тому +1

    good handmade working Master!!! Super Arbeit von einem echt Meister Seines Fachs

  • @Lemongrasspicker
    @Lemongrasspicker 6 років тому +1

    It almost reminds me of a stair saw. Pretty neat piece

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому +1

      It functions very much like it, you can use a stair saw to make the same cuts. I think (having never used a stair case saw) that this saw give you a different level/type of control. I hope to show you that in the sliding dovetail demonstration video.

    • @Lemongrasspicker
      @Lemongrasspicker 6 років тому

      John Zhu I'd like to see it in action. I'll be watching

  • @randomdds
    @randomdds 4 роки тому

    Looks a lot like an Azebiki, a japanese specialized saw.

  • @tonyja661
    @tonyja661 6 років тому +1

    Looks great John, going to give this a crack, may try making the blaade like the azebiki style. Very nice finish on the handle too! Re the steel and brass. I think the original used the same metal as the brass and steel method may come loose due to different exansion.. but I seriously doubt it will effect performance.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому +1

      I thought about an azebiki; but am trying to focus on Chinese woodworking because lots of people on Western YT do/adhere/obsess over Japanese woodworking.

    • @tonyja661
      @tonyja661 6 років тому

      John Zhu fair call. Your right, a lot do obsess without really understanding the tool or its history, if they studied a bit more they would know a lot of Japanese tools originated in Chinese areas and were modified over the years to suit. Still a great tool you have made. Not going to stop me making one oneday!

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      To each is his own. I am not responsible for those whose understanding is "he who has the most tools wins."

  • @billallmon4094
    @billallmon4094 5 років тому +1

    This is so cool im an ol fart wood worker and now im your grasshopper

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  5 років тому

      Lol BA. Age is not a factor in self-improvement. Happy to be able to lead.

  • @jamesbrandon4260
    @jamesbrandon4260 2 роки тому

    I love your channel. This is a fantastic video. I could have used this saw before and I will try making one. What gauge/thickness of steel did you use? Is it a plain steel or stainless steel?

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  2 роки тому

      .025" if i recall correctly. It is high carbon steel.

    • @jamesbrandon4260
      @jamesbrandon4260 2 роки тому

      @@johnzzhu thank you. This should be a fun project

  • @yiyongleng7157
    @yiyongleng7157 6 років тому +1

    喜欢你的视频,锯齿也自己做,了不起!

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      多谢了。有时自己做的比买的要好。

  • @clydedecker765
    @clydedecker765 5 років тому

    John, my admiration for your talent is unending but this series of tools leaves something to be desired. You mention making "push" and "pull" blades but never explain how. You do show making one but ... that was not a "how" at all. I am supposing you could buy commercially available blades and cut them to fit ... I'd love to see how you maintain a precise 8 degree angle while cutting the dovetail across a wide board. I also assume adding a point to the blade would help in stopped dados.. Smaller teeth on the tip (1/2 inch or so followed by wider spacing?? Please make something to tie all of these together?

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  5 років тому

      I have a video linked in the description on how to make blades. It is not my job to film 3 hr videos on a simple subject. The point of my video is to inspire people to try, there is sufficient information for anyone to make this saw if they wanted to. It is not the point of the videos to nauseate myself with details, humble brags, and pointless commentary.
      I can maintain the 8 degree angle because I blessed with work ethic and worked hard and trained my eye, hand, and feel coordination. There is no trick or short cut I can the viewers.

    • @yegong1425
      @yegong1425 5 років тому

      @@johnzzhu实木木工手工制作的精度不如钳工或机械加工,首先是使用者技术能力有限,手工制作总会产生误差,这是与机械加工的最大区别。其次是木材在使用过程中随环境变化而伸缩变形,加工时的高精度在成品使用过程中并不能永久保持。所以7度或者9度都是能够被接受的。辛老说过,十活九病。哈哈

  • @johnzzhu
    @johnzzhu  6 років тому +4

    The title says "dovetail/short saw" but the correct translated name is "knife saw (刀锯)." Apologizes for the error.

    • @chaodong4620
      @chaodong4620 6 років тому

      John Zhu I thought it call 楼锯(louju),chinese dongbei call japanese saw 刀锯

    • @chaodong4620
      @chaodong4620 6 років тому

      great work anyway

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      The West has a similar saw called stair case saw. There may be many names. This is the name the Chinese master used in his title.

  • @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa
    @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa 4 роки тому

    Maybe it will perform better than European back saw. it has a long handle to hold .

  • @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa
    @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa 4 роки тому

    back saw is a more correct name.

  • @Lolmasaurus
    @Lolmasaurus 6 років тому +1

    Is there any set to the teeth?

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      Yes, you decide on how much.

  • @georgesikonomou3895
    @georgesikonomou3895 6 років тому +1

    Création vidéo, i already knew this guy but for some reason he doesn't make videos anymore and i can't follow the link you put :(
    Anyway great job and keep on the good work

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  6 років тому

      He only makes video on youku, the videos on youtube are or are not approved by him. I thought about voice over translation of his youku video, but I can't find his contact info to ask for permission. The links to his videos are now fixed.

    • @Aubreykun
      @Aubreykun 5 років тому

      He is on youtube now! ua-cam.com/channels/SaXOMZMrMCZPdbPG947_-A.htmlvideos?disable_polymer=1

  • @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa
    @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa 4 роки тому

    Old Manchurian tool , cut when pulling.

  • @daisycorta3340
    @daisycorta3340 6 років тому

    oliver

  • @user-fh2mi8yu6n
    @user-fh2mi8yu6n 5 років тому

    不懂!这种锯子有什么特别之处。我还看到了。你的锤子好像不是木工的锤子。总之什么锤子只要自己用着顺手就好。但是想讲一下。你的锤子那么重,看着你用的时候。好像就不是很顺手。我总觉得你的锤子好像是从锻工或者钣金工、钳工那里借来的

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  5 років тому

      It is used to make short cuts in cramped spaces, I use this saw a lot since I've made it. The hammer is just what I had laying around, the roundness of the back of the hammer helps to set the rivet.

  • @garagemonkeysan
    @garagemonkeysan 6 років тому +2

    Nice to see these tool builds. : )