PD-Nim scolded SEVENTEEN for playing around and not practicing. - Made by Pledis17 Instagram Team - Pledis17 Instagram -- / pledis17 Tumblr -- / seventeen-news
I feel sad for Wonwoo:( When the PD said "Half of you are holding IPad's" Wonwoo being the innocent one is like right smack in the middle holding an IPad.. I feel like she is "targetting" Wonwoo:( At least they debuted:)) SEVENTEEN HWAITING!!!
this was super old ago and you're probs not gonna see this but when she said "half of you guys are holding ipads" she's probably referring to when they need to practice some of them are on ipads and some of them are on their computes because after that she proceeds to say "half of you guys are on your computers." i don't think shes talking about now, but maybe most of the time
Wonwoo was labeled as the "*Guy who's holding the iPad at the middle*" in this video and I'm crying because that man is officially a part of Seventeen now, and that same man is called Jeon Wonwoo. TTTT
Guys, it doesn't matter if they're just kids. They signed up to become idols, and being an idol is serious work. It's not just dancing and singing like you see in concerts. They have to practice hard. Especially at this time as trainees because they want to debut as soon as possible. I applaud the lady scolding them for not shouting and reminding them that there is work to be done. Seventeen looked very ashamed so I'm sure they went back to work soon after. The lady is only scolding them to benefit them. Seventeen, fighting!
+Avison Charm She could have been nicer about it Last time I checked shes not their mother or grandmother she has not rights to make them feel ashamed she could have ended it with something motivational
+liz liz She was actually extremely nice about it, she didn't raise her voice and simply told them that they were slacking off when they shouldn't be I know it seems harsh to scold teenage boys for having fun, but the fact remains that they were preparing to be idols and were all working for a chance to debut. Under those conditions, they should be practicing as much as they can, like she said. (Again, it's harsh to expect that of teens, but it's the reality of trainee life) And tbh, she doesn't really have to say anything motivational, it's not her job to do that. Not once during her lecture did she undermine their talents and make them feel bad for themselves, so she doesn't have to uplift them either
+liz liz she's just trying to help them. hardships, scoldings and all would only motivate them to work harder which is good. im not sure if you have ever been scolded before or maybe ur parents are extremely gentle people, but that wasnt a terrible scolding at all lol its pretty normal
+liz liz i love seventeen n im a fan, but we cant be delusional. if it is true the boys were fooling around more than they were practicing, then ofc their teacher or staff member would scold them. training periods are the most vital times bcs that is where u improve ur skills to become better aritsts. im sure you've been scolded before in school for not doing ur work, it's just the same in this situation.
+Avison Charm thats true but it gets tiring having to be serious all the time look at exo they play but they get things done and sm kinda treats them horrible like tao hes leg they didnt actually even care just hes friends not even sm the people suppose to be caring for him for real like its some really good groups out there and they play and they dont get scolded all the time this isnt dance moms for real
i understand why so many people are commenting that they're "just teenage boys" and shouldn't have the harsh treatment. because it's true, the woman was being harsh. but the reality of it is that they're not just teenage boys now. they basically signed up to be people known worldwide, and measures have to be taken to live up to the world's expectations. the seventeen members knew what they were signing up for when they realized they wanted to be idols. they're supposed to be prepared for the harsh treatment and sharp words because that's going to be what shapes the group into something better. why is the treatment so harsh? the korean entertainment industry is based on perfection and stardom. there are so many idol groups out there, hundreds, and to outshine them all and become one of even the top ten is a hard task. so the entertainment company has no choice but to push their trainees and idols, and age doesn't matter because once you're a trainee, it means you know how much you want your dream and how much you're willing to dedicate to it. if the group doesn't succeed, the company can't view it as anything else other than lost money. yes, idol groups are seen as objects sometimes, more than others. but that's just how the entertainment industry was based, and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. i'm saying this not as the dedicated fangirl of SEVENTEEN part of me, but as a calculating korean citizen. yes, they're young. yes, they're just boys. but that's not an excuse if you want to become the best. it's simply how it is. if you can't understand it, that's okay, no one's expecting you to because it's complicated business.
+아낀다ㅠ셉틴 Preach, I get scolded all the time for making jokes and stuff to other people by teachers. I used to not like being around age 11 and 12 but now as a 13 year old, I agree with you because if I wasn't scolded by the teacher, then I would'e kept on making jokes.
아낀다ㅠ셉틴 thats no right to yell at them during a broadcast that they know would be aired. i get what youre saying but they should have done it more professionally and privately.
m i a you do realize the purpose of the live broadcast was to show how they prep trainees to be idols right. I think it is sensible that the staff scold them at that time. I mean it will be nice to see the boys playing around now and then but until they don't practice well ummm.... Maybe by doing it live the boys will be more aware and it will leave an impact on all of them although gettin scolded in front of a camera come off as embarassing. Just my opinion tho.
I think he was one of the ones that actually practiced as she mentioned. Sometimes it looked like he was hogging the camera, but there are so many ways of looking at something
i guess some people in the comment section dont really understand: 1. That's asia. in asia ppl r generally more strict. i am asian and although i live in a european country my parents scold me for not studying 24/7 aka everytime when i am on my phone/ipad/laptop 2. strictness and disciplines actually plays a big part in kpop and especially for the trainees. hard work gets paid off; alone the fact that theyt thanked for being scolded shows that. They are saying "Thank you for telling me my mistakes" 3. i read someone saying that they are adults not children; no they are children, for the entertainment they were still "just" trainees; in korea you are legally an adult with 19 i think; i dont think many of them were 19 back then... 4. this rlly is nothing to laugh about, but also dont worry too much about it. strictness is usual in asia 5. And yes they shouldnt have recorded it and put it online; but as said before: for them they were just trainees. And maybe Pledis wanted to show that it's not all just fun and playing around
I'm from asia too and you know what? this bullshit can go fuck itself in its ass,its common here but that doesnt make it right or for the better,yes and a lot of abused kids grow up and say abuse made them better and they are thankful for getting hit that doesnt make the abuse any less right,the whole idea of recording mostly underage employees 24/7 is already disturbing and yeah whatever.
@@letmein8075 no i agree, abuse is never the right thing to do, especially to verbally and physically abuse children. However, many adults have never learnt it any different way, so i think it's a generational issue. I was hit by my parents too, so i fought a lot with them when i got older and over time they learnt that that's not the right way. I have 3 younger siblings and i have to say my youngest brother never gets hit, partly because i always intervene and explain the situation to my parents (also an issue often with immigrant parents : because of the culture difference and language barrier they often misunderstand a situation and get frustrated). Now i'm 20 and i don't believe i would ever hit my children. I believe i can raise them in a way that they will never use violence on others. However, if it does happen that i hit or slap my child, i would apologise (another thing my parents never did bc they felt like they were doing the right thing, i believe many parents think that way). I believe the only thing we can do is 1) teach the parents that there is an alternative , and if that doesnt work then 2) do a better job on our own kids
why?? some people doubt that they're being serious so this show's the people that doubted that, that seventeen CAN be serious. *Beside's it was live broadcasted :P*
Getting scolded is part of the training. They won't be scolded if they didn't do anything wrong and I'm sure the members understand that. ^^;; The lady scolded them for their own good. I'm not really offended seeing my boys being scolded like this. Thanks to this woman for guiding Seventeen, look where they are now. :)))))
Its way of showing acknowledgement to the scolding as an affection and caring for their success. Eastens are always told to thank and be aware of 'elders' care for the 'youngs', so its natrual for them to thank and not reply back by saying sorry.
People need to remember while watching this, That woman is basically their parent all there parents are out of the picture at this moment there living together and it all back on the company to make sure they train hard and go to school. Also they know why they are they're teenagers or not they knew they should of been practicing that why they look ashamed of themselfs, If the company was easy on them they wouldn't be as hardworking as they are today.
right, honestly if people were thinking the noona or the company didn’t care about them they wouldn’t be scolding them she’s really just scolding them for their own benefit
I just find it funny.. they re being scolded but knowing today they are really chaotic,funny and talented.. and seeing them getting scolded in full silence and their faces all looks low..
i have no problem with the staff scolding them. i feel scolding them in this case, reasonable. they should work, yes. but question, why would they scold them on live broadcast to their fans. I feel that this part of it is completely redundant and unnecessary.
it was so quiet oh my god but seriously tho ' half of you guys are holding ipads ' but wonwoo's just there standing with the ipad ): AND ALSO JOSHUA I LIKE HOW HE HAS HIS GUITAR THERE INCASE WOOZI GETS MAD AND STEALS HIS GUITAR AGAIN LOL
I was expecting the person scolding them to actually speak straight. I hate it when people are scolding you but they take such a long time and take such long pauses to do so. just get straight to the point and leave, what's so hard about that?
I hate that too, like scold me if your gunna scold me, wasting mine and yours time here, if that was my mother scolding me like that I would've just left. takes to long to scold, get to the point, yell whatever but don't waste my life away with the pauses
+Esmymarie Contreras i know right?? my mom does that alot. after she yells, it would be silent but then she'd think of something more to say and so forth. and other times, she comes and yells at me, then leaves the room. but sometimes after some time passes, she still doesn't think it was harsh enough so she comes back and takes something away from me and keeps doing so until she's satisfied.
+Abigail Sanez Agreed, I got soooo annoyed with all the blank pauses. The lady didn't even say anything useful after the picked teams comment so I was just like....,you used up 4 minutes for a 1 minute discussion. I do agree the boys should have been scolded for not practicing for so long, but she could have organized her scolding a lot better to make a better impact in a lesser amount of time.
Aigoo poor wonwoo... he's the one that holding ipad in there... wonwoo being the innocence one just keep holding it. He looks like a kick puppy after that woman mentioned ipad XD
i understand it from both points of views but some of the words she said were a bit harsh, also come on they're just boys, boys will be boys. Then again this is what they wanted to, sing and entertain but then again when you're stressed out sometimes you forget. but hey they did it, they worked hard and debut
I really agree with you in some points but, when you signed for being a trainee you´re only a trainee. Nothing else apart from that. They dont care if you are a kid, they train you to be the best one. And sometimes they must be hard, because you dont train someone by being kind of nice with them in Asia. And i think thas sad but well, if you didnt understand me heres a shor version: They just trained them to be a puppet who makes money for the Company
The woman was scolding them for their own good and making them more disciplined. But I still feel so bad seeing them silently standing there while getting scolded
Those scolding is really helpful for them now. The fame doesn't get to them and they stay humble. They practice hard in everything. I noticed it in 17 project and like17 that the way they are now is because of what they have been through together in the past. What I love about Seventeen is you can see them grow and develop and it feels like you are there helping them.
I think pledis posted this vid to show us a moral lesson to work harder just like the sebongs! Even being scolded make us frustrated but it still give us motivations to work harder and to finish things succesfully and now look how high is our Seventeen! Now the dream they want to be became true💞 So Hwaiting! Seventeen! We love you more guys💕
I feel bad for them because they're precious boys to us. I care about them and don't want them to get hurt but I have to say that this was justifiable. They didn't come to the company just to play around and somehow make their debut. Debuting takes lots of sweat poured in practice rooms, some for years and others for a few months. If they were just going to show them playing around, they wouldn't have put the cameras up and done the broadcast. And it's already in the past. This is a mark in their lives that shows us how they were able to make their debut. We all know that they practice long, hard hours late into the night. It's nice to see that they started to implant that into their minds while they were young so it could help them. And I saw the one comment about the pausing between her talks. I think it's good to put it there sometimes. With so many boys, you'll want to not just say what's on your mind and let them go and do whatever but make sure they understand what's going on and have them reflect while you're talking as well. But like I was saying, I love Seventeen and I will always love Seventeen, but this was something that happened already and I think it was okay in this situation to see. It's embarrassing that they were scolded live but that's the reality of trainees lives with or without cameras. I'm just glad she didn't raise her voice too much because that situation would've been REALLY bad.
I get that she means well, and they probably did deserve the scolding but.. this was still painful to watch especially seeing Samuel there looking all small and cute. I wanted to hug them all and tell them it's okay and they are hardworking and will show the world what they have got!
@@xpragyax the little kid with light blue shirt and cap is samuel, he was suppsoed to debut with svt but left predebut bcs his mom thought he was too young to debut. his name is kim samuel and he’s now doing solo as well as acting
dear humans.. if you played instead of doing what you''re supposed to do at a particular time where you're supposed to do it.. anyone would get mad... you have to be responsible no matter the age.. when it's time to sleep, kids have to sleep.. when it's time for homework it's not supposed to be playtime.. when you're in school you're not supposed to be playing.. same when it's time for sport practice you're not supposed to just play around.. this is discipline.. it's commitment.. it's not the time to fool around.. they deserved the scolding.. if not for discipline svt wouldnt be the svt today.. kids nowadays cant even take a simple scolding they thought they're princes and princesses of their parents they dont even respect their teachers and just do whatever they want.. this is called spoiled kids!
lmao i found this so funny because no one responded and it was silent throughout the whole thing and then the iPad made a noise 😂 at least they learned a lesson, i mean,look at them now
I can totally relate!! Our coaches scold us when we play around during cheer practice and I can already imagine how hard it is for managers/coaches when their students treat their trainings as playground. I'm not saying you can't be happy during practices, just take them serious because time is really precious 💖
I CANT MY BABY WONWOO IS LITERALLY SMACK IN THE MIDDLE HOLDING AN IPAD AND SHES LITERALLY REFERENCING THE IPAD AND I WANT TO JUST HOLD ALL OF THEM AND TELL THEM ITS ALRIGHT. AWWW MY POOR CHILDREN
i dont get why almost everyone in the comment section are laughing... like nothing is funny about this. tbh im kinda glad she scolded them but im mostly upset that she "had" to video tape this and embarrass them. like wth why would a manager video tape themselves scolding at others... and recently pledis company are mistreating seventeen and is making many carats like me angry. so watching this just makes me more angry honestly and us carats would really like an apology from pledis. anyways seventeen stay strong and always know that carats are there for you guy💕💕 새븐틴 사랑하고 화이팅. 힘내세요.❤️
This happened during a live-stream so it wasn't being recorded by Pledis or their staff and because it was during a live-stream that they were goofing off instead of practicing they got in trouble, it wasn't done to embarrass them they publicly did something they shouldn't have and they publicly got scolded for it; personally I don't find it funny either but I also don't have a problem with it because its an honest insight into the daily life of trainees not just from Pledis but from every company. As to the other allegations of mistreatment I would take it under advisement that most of them are self-evidently false and entirely made up, where is the proof? there is none except what someone nobody has ever heard of or met "claims" that they heard this or saw that but nobody ever brings a shred of evidence to back it up, even THIS very video is claimed to be proof of staff yelling at members, you don't know how many times I've read "PLEDIS mistreat SEVENTEEN I know because there's a video of it!" Did you see any "yelling" here because I didn't. Unless I see "real" proof that PLEDIS or their staff are mistreating SEVENTEEN I'm going to assume its like the claims made against T-ARA which were much worse and nearly caused them to disband but were later reveled to be entirely made up, things like that should give people pause before believing everything they read on the internet.
forgivemenot1 couldnt agree with you more. those are just rumors, even seventeen themselves said that the staffs were kind and friendly and the ceo treated them foods. there's no single proof (except for staffs stealing/borrowing idk members' stuffs that were given by their fans.) so let's not make any conclusion. and stop spreading this issue.
I watch this in 2018, right after their Vlive thanking everyone for their 2 awards in one night. I guess this is what brought them to where they are now...
Its that silence when nobody wants to speak but the person scolding wants a response so everyone just stands and all of a sudden the floor is VERY interesting😂
The feeling to watch this is not good... Its normal for young peepz but they do need to train hard... I LOVE YOU SEVENTEEN STAY STRONG AND ALWAYS PRACTICE WELL!!!!!
dumb_and _dumber this is super late reply but bro when I was 6/7 my father literally hits me with a hanger, a slipper or a belt just because i wasnt able to answer the simple addition he taught me
I feel sad for wonwoo :((( He looks so innocent and pure while holding the ipad. Ughh if I was there I would literally grab the ipad from him so he wouldn't look awkward. My pure baby :
This is common for trainees , they probably gotten much more worse than this and I don't really call this scolding because she not shouting at them or raising her voice
i actually get why they are getting scolded, and they may be just teenage boys but they know what they signed up for and it is part of the learning process to be scolded
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"Half of you are holding iPads"
And then there's Wonwoo being the innocent one in the middle
😂😂😂
@@duhhh5138 😂😂😂😂im dying
wait i dont get it idk the members XD is it bc there's only one of them holding an ipad and thats the guy in the middle?
Lol 😂
Nyx Kwon xD
"Half of you are holding ipads" i seriously want to drop that ipad for wonwoo it's so awkward lmao
I started laughing at him for that I feel so bad
Lmao
Hahahaha I noticed that too!!
I feel so bad for him...
U guys know where the ex trainees are?
when the girl stops talking i legit thought my phone wasnt working they were all frozen lol
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Haha same but I thought I accidentally pause the vid
i see you everywhere
i feel like my mom just yelled at me LMAO
me too, i feel so bad
I felt so much pain when they got in trouble. I felt like I was in trouble
Asian Parenting 101
ygxillionaire Same 😂😂
masa mune It’s terrifying tbh
I love how like half way through everyone was looking down and stuff but SAMUEL DIDNT GIVE A FCK HE KEPT LOOKING STARIGHT AHEAD
Faerychun lol me
@@skye_moonlol8771 yeah same 😂
WHAT THE FAWK AHAHAHAHA
When she said "half of you are holding iPads" I felt bad for that one guy because he was in the middle and there was light shining on him
The guy who was holding the iPad was Wonwoo
Poor wonwoo
It was Jesus shinning a light
@@phoebebrody6936 IM DEAD
@@phoebebrody6936 Goodness me😭🗿
I feel sad for Wonwoo:( When the PD said "Half of you are holding IPad's" Wonwoo being the innocent one is like right smack in the middle holding an IPad.. I feel like she is "targetting" Wonwoo:( At least they debuted:)) SEVENTEEN HWAITING!!!
When she said half of you are holding ipads I only saw one and got confused
its fighting but ok
@@rogashon1787 no Hwaiting is correct. As far as I know it is the romanized version of fighting in Korean
@@minyounglee8887 the rest of them put it down or were hiding the iPad behind their backs.
this was super old ago and you're probs not gonna see this but when she said "half of you guys are holding ipads" she's probably referring to when they need to practice some of them are on ipads and some of them are on their computes because after that she proceeds to say "half of you guys are on your computers." i don't think shes talking about now, but maybe most of the time
seventeen 2013: getting scolded
seventeen 5 years later: getting closer
*scolding the staffs (Carnival gose ep) HAHAHAHAHA
@@seventeenscarat9901 😂
Now minghao scold carat for not focusing on him.😁😁😁😁
LMFAOO
now they scold the staffs lmao
"half of you are holding ipads" innocent wonwoo riiight~ in the middle holding that ipad cutely and yet get scolded :'( so sad but cute >
I laughed when the lady was like "half of you are holding iPads" n the guy holding one in the middle is like oh shiT
also seungkwan looked so sad just looking down the whole time aw haha
Thats wonwoo...XD
The second hand embarrassment i got 😭
LMFAO
Wow I didn't know the broadcast was so serious I thought it was just for fun.. Poor babies getting scolded no one even talk for 3 min :(
they aren't poor babies. being an idol is serious work, and playing around most of the time doesn't help. i think she was right to scold them
@@juniper4654 dawg they were all minors here ofcourse they are gonna act childish
@juniper4654 its pretty well known that pledis severely mistreated these boys predebut
@@juniper4654how do u look at them and not see them as kids💀
@@androgenieeexactly and not just them but all of their artists
the hardest 4 minutes in my life aw
+joshua hong I just wanted to Exit life for those minutes tho
KPOPISCONTAGIOUS sameeee i just hope i never clicked on this
Omg Dazaiiii
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Rarest clip of seventeen being silent for more than 5 seconds
It feels like when I'm at my friend's home and they're being scolded
I don't know what to do lmao
Clara Loonika that happened to me once except she got grounded and I was kicked out of the house xD
Omg same
You're just standing there like, "oh wow that's a nice wall."
Wonwoo was labeled as the "*Guy who's holding the iPad at the middle*" in this video and I'm crying because that man is officially a part of Seventeen now, and that same man is called Jeon Wonwoo. TTTT
"The guy holding ipad" has become one of the hottest guy we ever lay our eyes on🤧
"Half of you are holding iPads"
Me: (stares at the screen) Guys, new flash, one is half of seventeen.
Yehet wonwoo is already a half? Hahahahahaha
Behind their backs.
@@MonochromaticBananaBread even then it wouldn't equate to half. About 3 of them have their hands behind their back
Oh my god those long pauses be having me dying lmao
Tammy Johnson My teacher does that long pause shit and I'm like IT DOESNT TAKE 20 MINUTES TO CATCH YOUR BREATH DUDE!!
@@imthehoidude588 I died at ur comment😂
Guys, it doesn't matter if they're just kids. They signed up to become idols, and being an idol is serious work. It's not just dancing and singing like you see in concerts. They have to practice hard. Especially at this time as trainees because they want to debut as soon as possible. I applaud the lady scolding them for not shouting and reminding them that there is work to be done. Seventeen looked very ashamed so I'm sure they went back to work soon after. The lady is only scolding them to benefit them. Seventeen, fighting!
+Avison Charm She could have been nicer about it Last time I checked shes not their mother or grandmother she has not rights to make them feel ashamed she could have ended it with something motivational
+liz liz She was actually extremely nice about it, she didn't raise her voice and simply told them that they were slacking off when they shouldn't be
I know it seems harsh to scold teenage boys for having fun, but the fact remains that they were preparing to be idols and were all working for a chance to debut. Under those conditions, they should be practicing as much as they can, like she said. (Again, it's harsh to expect that of teens, but it's the reality of trainee life)
And tbh, she doesn't really have to say anything motivational, it's not her job to do that. Not once during her lecture did she undermine their talents and make them feel bad for themselves, so she doesn't have to uplift them either
+liz liz she's just trying to help them. hardships, scoldings and all would only motivate them to work harder which is good. im not sure if you have ever been scolded before or maybe ur parents are extremely gentle people, but that wasnt a terrible scolding at all lol its pretty normal
+liz liz i love seventeen n im a fan, but we cant be delusional. if it is true the boys were fooling around more than they were practicing, then ofc their teacher or staff member would scold them. training periods are the most vital times bcs that is where u improve ur skills to become better aritsts. im sure you've been scolded before in school for not doing ur work, it's just the same in this situation.
+Avison Charm thats true but it gets tiring having to be serious all the time look at exo they play but they get things done and sm kinda treats them horrible like tao hes leg they didnt actually even care just hes friends not even sm the people suppose to be caring for him for real like its some really good groups out there and they play and they dont get scolded all the time this isnt dance moms for real
i could never have a straight face while standing there i would burst out laughing i can't be serious
isa sameeee hahahaha
me too AHAHSHHAHA
so do I 😂
isa ikr when watching this I burst out laughing
I was laughing at the pauses, and the iPad bit
i understand why so many people are commenting that they're "just teenage boys" and shouldn't have the harsh treatment. because it's true, the woman was being harsh. but the reality of it is that they're not just teenage boys now. they basically signed up to be people known worldwide, and measures have to be taken to live up to the world's expectations. the seventeen members knew what they were signing up for when they realized they wanted to be idols. they're supposed to be prepared for the harsh treatment and sharp words because that's going to be what shapes the group into something better. why is the treatment so harsh? the korean entertainment industry is based on perfection and stardom. there are so many idol groups out there, hundreds, and to outshine them all and become one of even the top ten is a hard task. so the entertainment company has no choice but to push their trainees and idols, and age doesn't matter because once you're a trainee, it means you know how much you want your dream and how much you're willing to dedicate to it. if the group doesn't succeed, the company can't view it as anything else other than lost money. yes, idol groups are seen as objects sometimes, more than others. but that's just how the entertainment industry was based, and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. i'm saying this not as the dedicated fangirl of SEVENTEEN part of me, but as a calculating korean citizen. yes, they're young. yes, they're just boys. but that's not an excuse if you want to become the best. it's simply how it is. if you can't understand it, that's okay, no one's expecting you to because it's complicated business.
+아낀다ㅠ셉틴 Preach, I get scolded all the time for making jokes and stuff to other people by teachers. I used to not like being around age 11 and 12 but now as a 13 year old, I agree with you because if I wasn't scolded by the teacher, then I would'e kept on making jokes.
아낀다ㅠ셉틴 thats no right to yell at them during a broadcast that they know would be aired. i get what youre saying but they should have done it more professionally and privately.
m i a you do realize the purpose of the live broadcast was to show how they prep trainees to be idols right. I think it is sensible that the staff scold them at that time. I mean it will be nice to see the boys playing around now and then but until they don't practice well ummm.... Maybe by doing it live the boys will be more aware and it will leave an impact on all of them although gettin scolded in front of a camera come off as embarassing. Just my opinion tho.
www.allkpop.com/article/2016/12/seveteen-fans-are-angry-at-pledis-entertainment-for-stealing-from-members-and-more
Yehet i don't know for sure if it's all true or not but that article made my heart ache :(
Maybe this is why Soonyoung is so strict when it comes to practicing.
I think he was one of the ones that actually practiced as she mentioned. Sometimes it looked like he was hogging the camera, but there are so many ways of looking at something
"half of you are holding ipads"
Meanwhile there's wonwoo
Holding an ipad with light shining on him
i guess some people in the comment section dont really understand:
1. That's asia. in asia ppl r generally more strict. i am asian and although i live in a european country my parents scold me for not studying 24/7 aka everytime when i am on my phone/ipad/laptop
2. strictness and disciplines actually plays a big part in kpop and especially for the trainees. hard work gets paid off; alone the fact that theyt thanked for being scolded shows that. They are saying "Thank you for telling me my mistakes"
3. i read someone saying that they are adults not children; no they are children, for the entertainment they were still "just" trainees; in korea you are legally an adult with 19 i think; i dont think many of them were 19 back then...
4. this rlly is nothing to laugh about, but also dont worry too much about it. strictness is usual in asia
5. And yes they shouldnt have recorded it and put it online; but as said before: for them they were just trainees. And maybe Pledis wanted to show that it's not all just fun and playing around
This is very late but thanks for pointing this out. I hope more people will understand that it was for their good.
I'm working in Asia and even at workplaces, you get scolded. The culture is very different here.
I'm from asia too and you know what? this bullshit can go fuck itself in its ass,its common here but that doesnt make it right or for the better,yes and a lot of abused kids grow up and say abuse made them better and they are thankful for getting hit that doesnt make the abuse any less right,the whole idea of recording mostly underage employees 24/7 is already disturbing and yeah whatever.
Yes as an Asian I can tell u Seventeen aren’t the only ones it’s all of us 😖
@@letmein8075 no i agree, abuse is never the right thing to do, especially to verbally and physically abuse children. However, many adults have never learnt it any different way, so i think it's a generational issue. I was hit by my parents too, so i fought a lot with them when i got older and over time they learnt that that's not the right way. I have 3 younger siblings and i have to say my youngest brother never gets hit, partly because i always intervene and explain the situation to my parents (also an issue often with immigrant parents : because of the culture difference and language barrier they often misunderstand a situation and get frustrated). Now i'm 20 and i don't believe i would ever hit my children. I believe i can raise them in a way that they will never use violence on others. However, if it does happen that i hit or slap my child, i would apologise (another thing my parents never did bc they felt like they were doing the right thing, i believe many parents think that way). I believe the only thing we can do is 1) teach the parents that there is an alternative , and if that doesnt work then 2) do a better job on our own kids
Getting scolded on camera is so humiliating oh my god I feel bad even if this isn't the worst(and it happened so long ago) :(
Seventeen listened thats why they are famous now.
Intellectual
DK still holding grudges and saying Pledis is an evil company 😂😂😂
Gosh it did'nt have to be video taped
It was live-broadcast lol
why??
some people doubt that they're being serious so this show's the people that doubted that, that seventeen CAN be serious.
*Beside's it was live broadcasted :P*
This feels SO much longer than 3 minutes
Getting scolded is part of the training. They won't be scolded if they didn't do anything wrong and I'm sure the members understand that. ^^;; The lady scolded them for their own good. I'm not really offended seeing my boys being scolded like this. Thanks to this woman for guiding Seventeen, look where they are now. :)))))
And lil sam too
That's a matter perspective cuz in some instances it does not stop at scolding.
yess and she needed to be strict with them too but people just don’t seem to understand that
Scolding them once or twice is okay but may I remind you that this is Pledis and the staff have also got physical with the boys on several instances
@@ananyaarya4124 whaaaat??? For real?
lol they thank the person after they get scolded
i was asking myself like: "what? thanks? no nononno, say sorry omg"
Its way of showing acknowledgement to the scolding as an affection and caring for their success.
Eastens are always told to thank and be aware of 'elders' care for the 'youngs', so its natrual for them to thank and not reply back by saying sorry.
It's an opportunity for them to improve, I think it's ok for them to say thank you
Some people just dont understand other cultures.
lol It’s to show respect, especially for those older than them
People need to remember while watching this, That woman is basically their parent all there parents are out of the picture at this moment there living together and it all back on the company to make sure they train hard and go to school. Also they know why they are they're teenagers or not they knew they should of been practicing that why they look ashamed of themselfs, If the company was easy on them they wouldn't be as hardworking as they are today.
right, honestly if people were thinking the noona or the company didn’t care about them they wouldn’t be scolding them she’s really just scolding them for their own benefit
I just find it funny.. they re being scolded but knowing today they are really chaotic,funny and talented.. and seeing them getting scolded in full silence and their faces all looks low..
THEY WERE SO YOUNG AND NOW THEY BECAME WHO THEY ARE NOW , BE GREATFUL!
aww baby Hoshi wiping his tears at the end. poor thing
"How long will you guys keep playing around like kids" *half of them are not even 18* 💀
"Half of you are holding iPads"
*spotlight to wonwoo*
Wonwoo be like " Just in case they take my Ipad " *le takes his IPad*
They all get scolded for goofing around
" I knew this would happen"
joshua holding his guitar and vernon lookin innocent af-
There kids that's what you get when you debut a group with a age group of seventeen.
that woman scolding made them who they are this days
Exactly
wonwoo holding the ipad and having the spotlight on him makes this more awkward
i have no problem with the staff scolding them. i feel scolding them in this case, reasonable. they should work, yes.
but question, why would they scold them on live broadcast to their fans. I feel that this part of it is completely redundant and unnecessary.
but wasn't that the whole point of svt tv? showing their trainees life, the good and the bad?
Yui true
Paula M. Vera exactly
@@PaulaMVera Facts
it was so quiet oh my god but seriously tho ' half of you guys are holding ipads ' but wonwoo's just there standing with the ipad ): AND ALSO JOSHUA I LIKE HOW HE HAS HIS GUITAR THERE INCASE WOOZI GETS MAD AND STEALS HIS GUITAR AGAIN LOL
I feel like she was repeating the same thing over and over again 😭😭
when everyone look sad because getting scolded,
vernon be like: *I do nothing wrong*
I was expecting the person scolding them to actually speak straight. I hate it when people are scolding you but they take such a long time and take such long pauses to do so. just get straight to the point and leave, what's so hard about that?
I hate that too, like scold me if your gunna scold me, wasting mine and yours time here, if that was my mother scolding me like that I would've just left. takes to long to scold, get to the point, yell whatever but don't waste my life away with the pauses
+Esmymarie Contreras i know right?? my mom does that alot. after she yells, it would be silent but then she'd think of something more to say and so forth. and other times, she comes and yells at me, then leaves the room. but sometimes after some time passes, she still doesn't think it was harsh enough so she comes back and takes something away from me and keeps doing so until she's satisfied.
+Michelle Ahn me too sometimes my mom took away my phone and im cried so hard. imagine a day without kpop....wht a life
+Abigail Sanez Agreed, I got soooo annoyed with all the blank pauses. The lady didn't even say anything useful after the picked teams comment so I was just like....,you used up 4 minutes for a 1 minute discussion. I do agree the boys should have been scolded for not practicing for so long, but she could have organized her scolding a lot better to make a better impact in a lesser amount of time.
Wow, would you really do that to your mom? If someone does that in my country, it is sure they are going to be beaten.
1:14 dID ANYONE ELSE HEAR THAT
+Lee Hime a pHONE/IPAD THINGY NOISE
Jeon JungKool it was the iPad notification for Wonwoo xD
right in the middle of a pause too 💀.
I would have broke down laughing OMG
SVT IN 2013: Being scolded.
SVT IN 2022: Having collaboration with Apple 😂
It feels like when you go to your friends’ house and they start arguing with their parents
Aigoo poor wonwoo... he's the one that holding ipad in there... wonwoo being the innocence one just keep holding it. He looks like a kick puppy after that woman mentioned ipad XD
this reminds me so much about school and how they would scold us and how bad I'd feel
Why is she so intimidating, sounding like a mom, even I was scared
They ain’t even moving at all they’re just their like :🧍 🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍🧍. In that situation I would burst out laughing I ain’t serious for nun 😭😭😭
i understand it from both points of views but some of the words she said were a bit harsh, also come on they're just boys, boys will be boys. Then again this is what they wanted to, sing and entertain but then again when you're stressed out sometimes you forget. but hey they did it, they worked hard and debut
I really agree with you in some points but, when you signed for being a trainee you´re only a trainee. Nothing else apart from that. They dont care if you are a kid, they train you to be the best one. And sometimes they must be hard, because you dont train someone by being kind of nice with them in Asia. And i think thas sad but well, if you didnt understand me heres a shor version: They just trained them to be a puppet who makes money for the Company
they will really remember this once they will debut i think this is not the first time they got scolded orz
The woman was scolding them for their own good and making them more disciplined. But I still feel so bad seeing them silently standing there while getting scolded
The long pauses though... lmao
when you watch this video it feels like you're getting scolded too
Those scolding is really helpful for them now. The fame doesn't get to them and they stay humble. They practice hard in everything. I noticed it in 17 project and like17 that the way they are now is because of what they have been through together in the past. What I love about Seventeen is you can see them grow and develop and it feels like you are there helping them.
If my mom scolds me like this with the long pauses I swear i wouldnt make it to 30 seconds and would start crying
I like the staff scolding them, all those scoldings helped seventeen work really hard haha
i keep on making sure it isnt a .jpg lol they didnt even move one inch
LMAO
no wonder they are one of the best rookie group
"thank you" they shouldve said 'sorry' lmao 😂
I think pledis posted this vid to show us a moral lesson to work harder just like the sebongs!
Even being scolded make us frustrated but it still give us motivations to work harder and to finish things succesfully and now look how high is our Seventeen! Now the dream they want to be became true💞
So Hwaiting! Seventeen!
We love you more guys💕
I feel bad for them because they're precious boys to us. I care about them and don't want them to get hurt but I have to say that this was justifiable. They didn't come to the company just to play around and somehow make their debut. Debuting takes lots of sweat poured in practice rooms, some for years and others for a few months. If they were just going to show them playing around, they wouldn't have put the cameras up and done the broadcast. And it's already in the past. This is a mark in their lives that shows us how they were able to make their debut. We all know that they practice long, hard hours late into the night. It's nice to see that they started to implant that into their minds while they were young so it could help them. And I saw the one comment about the pausing between her talks. I think it's good to put it there sometimes. With so many boys, you'll want to not just say what's on your mind and let them go and do whatever but make sure they understand what's going on and have them reflect while you're talking as well. But like I was saying, I love Seventeen and I will always love Seventeen, but this was something that happened already and I think it was okay in this situation to see. It's embarrassing that they were scolded live but that's the reality of trainees lives with or without cameras. I'm just glad she didn't raise her voice too much because that situation would've been REALLY bad.
I get that she means well, and they probably did deserve the scolding but.. this was still painful to watch especially seeing Samuel there looking all small and cute. I wanted to hug them all and tell them it's okay and they are hardworking and will show the world what they have got!
Who's Samuel? I'm a new Carat, So idk who is Samuel? And also who is that little kid in light blue shirt? Is he Dino or someone else?
@@xpragyax the little kid with light blue shirt and cap is samuel, he was suppsoed to debut with svt but left predebut bcs his mom thought he was too young to debut. his name is kim samuel and he’s now doing solo as well as acting
it looks like Wonwoo's closing his eyes, trying to not care.
I am here after 8 years and now they are all grown up and successful seeing them getting scolding just broke my heart 😭.
dear humans.. if you played instead of doing what you''re supposed to do at a particular time where you're supposed to do it.. anyone would get mad... you have to be responsible no matter the age.. when it's time to sleep, kids have to sleep.. when it's time for homework it's not supposed to be playtime.. when you're in school you're not supposed to be playing.. same when it's time for sport practice you're not supposed to just play around.. this is discipline.. it's commitment.. it's not the time to fool around.. they deserved the scolding.. if not for discipline svt wouldnt be the svt today.. kids nowadays cant even take a simple scolding they thought they're princes and princesses of their parents they dont even respect their teachers and just do whatever they want.. this is called spoiled kids!
lmao i found this so funny because no one responded and it was silent throughout the whole thing and then the iPad made a noise 😂 at least they learned a lesson, i mean,look at them now
waaa the whole comment section is full of 3/4 or 5 years,,dont worry guys theyre BIG now :) hope yall still supporting seventeen
The smallest of them all was like starring at her and didn't give af 😭😭😭
I can totally relate!! Our coaches scold us when we play around during cheer practice and I can already imagine how hard it is for managers/coaches when their students treat their trainings as playground. I'm not saying you can't be happy during practices, just take them serious because time is really precious 💖
I CANT MY BABY WONWOO IS LITERALLY SMACK IN THE MIDDLE HOLDING AN IPAD AND SHES LITERALLY REFERENCING THE IPAD AND I WANT TO JUST HOLD ALL OF THEM AND TELL THEM ITS ALRIGHT. AWWW MY POOR CHILDREN
@ multi _ trash 3699. Wonwoo is a he not a she fix your spelling please
i’m so glad they debuted, seventeen fighting !! carats are here for you forever.
i dont get why almost everyone in the comment section are laughing... like nothing is funny about this. tbh im kinda glad she scolded them but im mostly upset that she "had" to video tape this and embarrass them. like wth why would a manager video tape themselves scolding at others... and recently pledis company are mistreating seventeen and is making many carats like me angry. so watching this just makes me more angry honestly and us carats would really like an apology from pledis. anyways seventeen stay strong and always know that carats are there for you guy💕💕 새븐틴 사랑하고 화이팅. 힘내세요.❤️
This happened during a live-stream so it wasn't being recorded by Pledis or their staff and because it was during a live-stream that they were goofing off instead of practicing they got in trouble, it wasn't done to embarrass them they publicly did something they shouldn't have and they publicly got scolded for it; personally I don't find it funny either but I also don't have a problem with it because its an honest insight into the daily life of trainees not just from Pledis but from every company.
As to the other allegations of mistreatment I would take it under advisement that most of them are self-evidently false and entirely made up, where is the proof? there is none except what someone nobody has ever heard of or met "claims" that they heard this or saw that but nobody ever brings a shred of evidence to back it up, even THIS very video is claimed to be proof of staff yelling at members, you don't know how many times I've read "PLEDIS mistreat SEVENTEEN I know because there's a video of it!" Did you see any "yelling" here because I didn't.
Unless I see "real" proof that PLEDIS or their staff are mistreating SEVENTEEN I'm going to assume its like the claims made against T-ARA which were much worse and nearly caused them to disband but were later reveled to be entirely made up, things like that should give people pause before believing everything they read on the internet.
forgivemenot1 couldnt agree with you more. those are just rumors, even seventeen themselves said that the staffs were kind and friendly and the ceo treated them foods.
there's no single proof (except for staffs stealing/borrowing idk members' stuffs that were given by their fans.) so let's not make any conclusion. and stop spreading this issue.
forgivemenot1 im kinda late but your comment,,, finally someone who understand. tysm
forgivemenot1 SORRY I LOVE SVT but it’s kinda funny Bc wonwoo is just holding his iPad IM DEAD I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING
I mean we see stuff similar to this in idol survival shows
umm omg if i were there i wouldnt be able to hold a straight face omg i m trying my best not to laugh,,even though its serious
These are adults not 7 year olds. Why are they being scolded like my little cousin didn't do her homework.
They were little kids either.
They were young adults.
half of them weren't even fifteen at this point, i think the oldest was 16
Because they are trainees and they need to practice!!
I watch this in 2018, right after their Vlive thanking everyone for their 2 awards in one night. I guess this is what brought them to where they are now...
I feel so nervous and I'm not even the one getting scolded. They were all so quiet. The tension oh my-
its so sad seeing the boys all serious but everyone needs to be scolded every here and there
Its that silence when nobody wants to speak but the person scolding wants a response so everyone just stands and all of a sudden the floor is VERY interesting😂
The feeling to watch this is not good... Its normal for young peepz but they do need to train hard... I LOVE YOU SEVENTEEN STAY STRONG AND ALWAYS PRACTICE WELL!!!!!
Well i guess the scolding worked cuz look at them now #kings👑
like I understand that they need to stop just getting on ipads and stuff instead of working but I think this is a little to serious
dumb_and _dumber this is super late reply but bro when I was 6/7 my father literally hits me with a hanger, a slipper or a belt just because i wasnt able to answer the simple addition he taught me
The way jihoon bow so passionately😭 that's break my heart. Maybe they've been facing worse that this.
Why am I the one who's scared while watching this?😰
I feel sad for wonwoo :((( He looks so innocent and pure while holding the ipad. Ughh if I was there I would literally grab the ipad from him so he wouldn't look awkward. My pure baby :
Practicing every time might get them to be overtrained and being overtrained is not good. They might need a break for sure
half of seventeen tv is them playing.
Lizzie K.S HAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA omygod
Wonwoo holding the iPad😂😂 i cannot LMAO so cute
This is common for trainees , they probably gotten much more worse than this and I don't really call this scolding because she not shouting at them or raising her voice
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i feel pain
i actually get why they are getting scolded, and they may be just teenage boys but they know what they signed up for and it is part of the learning process to be scolded
I feel so bad for the little guy (sorry I'm new). He's just staring at the floor looking really sad and cute
That's Samuel, but he didn't debut with Seventeen, he's with punch. He's grown so much too.
They Don't Deserve to Be Scolded Because They were just Getting To Know Each Other! And Besides They Work Really Hard Anyway!
*Omg my babyyyss...*
*They were not even moving while listening to their faults.*
*So puuure* *-*
this helped them become the dedicated hard working seventeen that we know and love.
Everyone’s talking about them getting scolded and I’m just over here fonding over how cute they are especially Samuel😍😍♥️
Am i the only one who noticed seungkwan at the back of wonwoo