yep mostly agree on everything the base healing potion is really her best item lol The only case i have found for unyielding draught is if you enter a pig village during a full moon and have like 10 werepigs on you. having that full second shield is enough to make it so abby only takes 1 40 dmg hit. and greatly increases her survivability there against the werepigs. works decently against bunnymen too and tentacles only hit once shield is best against fast medium damage attacks which does not really exist except for the instances i mentioned.
Thank you im glad to hear it! its always nice to watch and see what other creators are doing aswell get any good advice to see how I can improve my own videos aswell@@tornadodex1366
Hey Lardee, you can also hover the potion over abigail flower (in the inventory) to apply it. No need to put yourself into risky situations. Save the situation when you'r already besides abigail
Part of why I'm excited for Wendy's skill tree. Who knows what wacky stuff they could put in there? Maybe we could even apply multiple potions to Abby at once! At least 2, and then you don't have to pick and choose between situational benefits and the always-good healing!
Distilled Vengeance seems like in theory it should be something to use against bosses - take a lot of damage, deal all that damage back. But because it's just a flat 20 instead of a scaling value based on the damage received, it's entirely redundant and useless. And on top of that, even if the damage was scaling, it would still be pretty bad because even if Abigail deals 100 damage in retaliation, she still just took 100 damage. She can only take 6 hits like that and she's down. Perhaps if in addition to your suggestion, it also reduced the damage of the initial hit that triggers the retaliation, that would make it worth using. And then, what if instead of just looking at the damage Abigail takes, the scaling damage also considers the damage that Wendy herself has received in that time (before reduction). Lean a bit more into the protective sibling flavour of "You hurt my sister, now you pay".
It's so refreshing to see a tier list that has a sensible distribution, not heavily skewed in weird ways. Another way to buff the shield potions, could be that they also make Abigail count as a player instead of a mob for damage done to her while the potion is active.
The shield potions have one use case: Extended spelunkey farming. They are the only mob in the game that attack in such large hordes that can make a dent in Abby if she fights too many overtime, she can handle about 2 nightmare cycles worth but past that it gets dicey without healing and even then she will get worn down over time. The shield potion negating 80% of the monkeys attacks (as they oft attack in perfect sync) gives her much more millage if you farm for several nightmare cycles. Doing this nets you obscene amounts of fruit (Bannanas), meat (Morsels) beard hair, manure and most crucially nightmare fuel. Reversing her one downside (Shadows being a pain to fight due to no Abby) into being one of the best nightmare fuel farmers in the game. The potions also have a smaller niche in clearing Beefalo herds.
I'm actually glad I watched this video, because I completely underestimated the use of some potions, especially revenant restorative. Also glad I learned that last thing with distilled vengeance, that the mobs need to hit the shield. Completely changes my view because I kept mistakenly making those. Thanks, Lardee.
@Lardee 137. I am not sure whether you know this but you can use potion on abigail's flower instead of her. so you don't need to panic click her than monster/boss while fighting
Be careful of what you wish for on the Distilled Vengeance improvement. Klei might program it in a way that Abigail will hit your beefalo with the shield attack.
Absolutely agree about each potion! Not sure, need testing, but only situation where shield potions theoretically could be good - is reed traps, where you can face hordes of tentacles...
Hey lardee just wanted to say that I've been a fan for a loooooong time and watching your vids always made me happy can you make a Wendy bee queen guide ?
Hello, Lardee 137. First of all, I would like to say that you've inspired me to pick up Wendy. And not only her, but also the Beefalo. Why this was a big deal for me, was because DST was losing my interest and Wendy + Beefalo rekindled that and for the major part it is thanks to you. You have my admiration. I have a question about Distilled Vengeance. Did you mean that the shield "reflect" damage of 20 only damages one single enemy even when there are multiple? (For example Abigail vs group of spiders). Because in other sources that I checked, it damages all enemies that attacks Abigail while the shield is active. A video example I found here shows the damage dealt. ua-cam.com/video/e2weLkKfGaw/v-deo.htmlsi=gAE48cw5BLO9nd0i&t=1803 I'm not asking this as a "gotcha" question. I needed to clarify that because of my respect and admiration towards you 🙏 But I wanted to ask you because I'd like to hear your response. You are one of my biggest source of knowledge for the game.
Hey @DavidJYuan, Thanks for the kind words friend. To answer the question about Distilled Vengeance, any enemy that hits the shield will take 20 damage (actually 22 damage since Abigail buffs attacks by 10%). What I meant by hits only a single enemy is that only a single enemy is hit every time the shield is attacked. If multiple enemies are around Abigail, but only one attacks the shield, only one enemy gets hit, not all of them. The intent was to contrast the way Distilled Vengeance does damage to the way Abigail herself does damage.
Usually you don't need any potions to make killing them easier. But yeah it's def the best potion for catching enemies who run away alot, if you have a supply that you don't mind wasting it does save time.
Will you make a wx circuits tierlist? (i have a lot of experience with wx, i would want to see another opinion) (ill say the electric circuit it's the weakes of them all, i dont like the concept of wasting armor and healing for extra damage, instead of a damage buff directly)
Moggles, and speed circuit in S teir Super Gastrogain, thermal circuit and ice circuit in A teir Bean booster and illumination in C teir Music box in D teir, too much slots And sadly everything else in F teir, i wish his circuit balance was better. Maybe the health circuits grant a small damage reduction, the sainity circuit reduces negative sainity auras by a small amount, and the electric circuit increases attack and work speed. Another fix would be increasing Wx circuit alots so he can fit more
@@jakepeng9962 ill say the health ones and sanity dont need a change They are already good Im bothered by the illumination and electricity one They dont provide enough value for their cost And the cost cant be changed The issue lies in their use And bean boster is a B tier due to the healing overtime and sanity its a late game item
@@jakepeng9962 you can tank the dragonfly with 7 marble armor and 3 upgraded heath circuit And even some seasonal bosses Including Klaus as long as you dogge the ice spell
When I played Wendy I pretty much used nightshade nostrum to kill beequeen faster so yeah... Distilled vengeance I only crafted once to see how it performs and I was disappointed. Maybe instead of reflecting damage it could reduce damage abigail takes while not shielded. Your idea is cool but it would mostly work on swarms and not much else so I feel like general damage protection would be useful. Just me though. Vigor mortis I enjoyed because fast Abigail is satisfying to witness but didn't use it that much. Honestly I agree with many points you made here.
@@bubbleeater7192 that was 10 months ago, iirc when only Wilson and maybe 1 or 2 others were out. I didn't think they'd be doing rebalancing with the skill trees at that time. I really like the new skill trees and how they've handled them.
It does the same thing but costs over 3x more, and needs a living log. The damage reflection rarely happens, and when it does it is a measly 20 damage.
yep mostly agree on everything the base healing potion is really her best item lol
The only case i have found for unyielding draught is if you enter a pig village during a full moon and have like 10 werepigs on you. having that full second shield is enough to make it so abby only takes 1 40 dmg hit. and greatly increases her survivability there against the werepigs. works decently against bunnymen too and tentacles only hit once
shield is best against fast medium damage attacks which does not really exist except for the instances i mentioned.
I'm surprised to see you here under a random video. Love your content!
Thank you im glad to hear it!
its always nice to watch and see what other creators are doing aswell get any good advice to see how I can improve my own videos aswell@@tornadodex1366
Hey Lardee, you can also hover the potion over abigail flower (in the inventory) to apply it. No need to put yourself into risky situations.
Save the situation when you'r already besides abigail
I'd be surprised if he didn't know this already
@@marioruiz5758 well, he is always going into Abigail to deliver The elixirs. It is worth a shot no?
He surely knows, please rewatch the very first part of the video where he's fighting Fuelweaver.
This made me like Wendy a little more. I hope they add more potions that are more than *Abigail dies Slower*
Part of why I'm excited for Wendy's skill tree.
Who knows what wacky stuff they could put in there? Maybe we could even apply multiple potions to Abby at once! At least 2, and then you don't have to pick and choose between situational benefits and the always-good healing!
Distilled Vengeance seems like in theory it should be something to use against bosses - take a lot of damage, deal all that damage back. But because it's just a flat 20 instead of a scaling value based on the damage received, it's entirely redundant and useless. And on top of that, even if the damage was scaling, it would still be pretty bad because even if Abigail deals 100 damage in retaliation, she still just took 100 damage. She can only take 6 hits like that and she's down. Perhaps if in addition to your suggestion, it also reduced the damage of the initial hit that triggers the retaliation, that would make it worth using. And then, what if instead of just looking at the damage Abigail takes, the scaling damage also considers the damage that Wendy herself has received in that time (before reduction). Lean a bit more into the protective sibling flavour of "You hurt my sister, now you pay".
It's so refreshing to see a tier list that has a sensible distribution, not heavily skewed in weird ways.
Another way to buff the shield potions, could be that they also make Abigail count as a player instead of a mob for damage done to her while the potion is active.
I didn't know I needed a ''Wendy Potion Tier List'' until I watch to a ''Wendy Potion Tier List'' 😳
what?
yes
🤔
The shield potions have one use case: Extended spelunkey farming.
They are the only mob in the game that attack in such large hordes that can make a dent in Abby if she fights too many overtime, she can handle about 2 nightmare cycles worth but past that it gets dicey without healing and even then she will get worn down over time. The shield potion negating 80% of the monkeys attacks (as they oft attack in perfect sync) gives her much more millage if you farm for several nightmare cycles.
Doing this nets you obscene amounts of fruit (Bannanas), meat (Morsels) beard hair, manure and most crucially nightmare fuel. Reversing her one downside (Shadows being a pain to fight due to no Abby) into being one of the best nightmare fuel farmers in the game.
The potions also have a smaller niche in clearing Beefalo herds.
Just discovered your channel and I must leave a comment just to let you know that your videos are so damn good! Thank you for the content ;)
Thanks man, means a lot coming from the GOAT himself.
I'm actually glad I watched this video, because I completely underestimated the use of some potions, especially revenant restorative.
Also glad I learned that last thing with distilled vengeance, that the mobs need to hit the shield. Completely changes my view because I kept mistakenly making those. Thanks, Lardee.
Another use for Vigor mortis:Make Abigail fast enough to catchup to mctusk
Or Krampus
Or any thing that likes to run away like beardlings. You could chase em down but that's a lot of your day wasted.
@Lardee 137. I am not sure whether you know this but you can use potion on abigail's flower instead of her. so you don't need to panic click her than monster/boss while fighting
Does this in the fuelweaver fight at the start of the video
Be careful of what you wish for on the Distilled Vengeance improvement. Klei might program it in a way that Abigail will hit your beefalo with the shield attack.
Exactly the type of content I've been waiting for.
Absolutely agree about each potion! Not sure, need testing, but only situation where shield potions theoretically could be good - is reed traps, where you can face hordes of tentacles...
I love the tierlist content! Here’s an idea, Character Beefalo Synergy tier list!
i think those are really good ideas for improvements of the potions, and thanks for the vid so ik what these do!
Hey lardee just wanted to say that I've been a fan for a loooooong time and watching your vids always made me happy can you make a Wendy bee queen guide ?
+ rep for not wasting an S tier slot
Wendy and abi are so perfect that every little buff is already amazing af. If its possible to use them all together its easily an s+combo.
Edit: only one can be active at a time, this makes this list pretty accurate.
Can't you apply the potions to your current flower instead of directly to Abby?
Never thought about using vigor mortis against CC and AG, that's a pretty clever strat tbh
I mostly use the rigor mortis while hunting walruses. That way she can catch up to him easily
You mean the vigor mortis?
@@gaopinghu7332 🅱️igor mortis
On top of that, carrying an Ice Staff is also a very good way to hunt MacTusk.
Hello, Lardee 137.
First of all, I would like to say that you've inspired me to pick up Wendy. And not only her, but also the Beefalo. Why this was a big deal for me, was because DST was losing my interest and Wendy + Beefalo rekindled that and for the major part it is thanks to you. You have my admiration.
I have a question about Distilled Vengeance. Did you mean that the shield "reflect" damage of 20 only damages one single enemy even when there are multiple? (For example Abigail vs group of spiders). Because in other sources that I checked, it damages all enemies that attacks Abigail while the shield is active. A video example I found here shows the damage dealt. ua-cam.com/video/e2weLkKfGaw/v-deo.htmlsi=gAE48cw5BLO9nd0i&t=1803
I'm not asking this as a "gotcha" question. I needed to clarify that because of my respect and admiration towards you 🙏 But I wanted to ask you because I'd like to hear your response. You are one of my biggest source of knowledge for the game.
Hey @DavidJYuan,
Thanks for the kind words friend. To answer the question about Distilled Vengeance, any enemy that hits the shield will take 20 damage (actually 22 damage since Abigail buffs attacks by 10%). What I meant by hits only a single enemy is that only a single enemy is hit every time the shield is attacked. If multiple enemies are around Abigail, but only one attacks the shield, only one enemy gets hit, not all of them. The intent was to contrast the way Distilled Vengeance does damage to the way Abigail herself does damage.
Hello@@lardee1373,
It's great to receive your reply! I understand your point now, thank you for explaning it to me.
Vigor Mortis also saves a lot of time fighting Eucus, Bunnymen, Koalaphants, and Mctusks.
Usually you don't need any potions to make killing them easier.
But yeah it's def the best potion for catching enemies who run away alot, if you have a supply that you don't mind wasting it does save time.
shucks, it's been such a long time since I played this game seriously
it's so hard to play this game without binging it
Will you make a wx circuits tierlist?
(i have a lot of experience with wx, i would want to see another opinion)
(ill say the electric circuit it's the weakes of them all, i dont like the concept of wasting armor and healing for extra damage, instead of a damage buff directly)
Moggles, and speed circuit in S teir
Super Gastrogain, thermal circuit and ice circuit in A teir
Bean booster and illumination in C teir
Music box in D teir, too much slots
And sadly everything else in F teir, i wish his circuit balance was better. Maybe the health circuits grant a small damage reduction, the sainity circuit reduces negative sainity auras by a small amount, and the electric circuit increases attack and work speed.
Another fix would be increasing Wx circuit alots so he can fit more
@@jakepeng9962 ill say the health ones and sanity dont need a change
They are already good
Im bothered by the illumination and electricity one
They dont provide enough value for their cost
And the cost cant be changed
The issue lies in their use
And bean boster is a B tier due to the healing overtime and sanity its a late game item
@@adna6958 the sainity and health ones don't really help much. The health one does not make you tank better than any other characters
@@jakepeng9962 you can tank the dragonfly with 7 marble armor and 3 upgraded heath circuit
And even some seasonal bosses
Including Klaus as long as you dogge the ice spell
@@jakepeng9962 sanity helps in the dark while you are in the caves with the moggles
At least in early game
When I played Wendy I pretty much used nightshade nostrum to kill beequeen faster so yeah...
Distilled vengeance I only crafted once to see how it performs and I was disappointed. Maybe instead of reflecting damage it could reduce damage abigail takes while not shielded. Your idea is cool but it would mostly work on swarms and not much else so I feel like general damage protection would be useful. Just me though.
Vigor mortis I enjoyed because fast Abigail is satisfying to witness but didn't use it that much.
Honestly I agree with many points you made here.
I feel like the Unyielding Draught potion can be improved by making duration much longer like 3 or 5 seconds
I like your funny potions magic man-sincerely WX main
I say unyeailding draught has good tentacle clearing as it nullifys the 2nd hit they throw out
Wendy amongus potion at 3am
Why are you constantly switching your gear when fighting on the beefalo?
Hopefully we get something like an S tier potion with her skill tree
Actually it is the opposite. S teir potions is bad and would ruin her potion balance
Do these stack?
As in, can you use like every potion at the same time?
Nah, only 1 potion can be applied at one time. You have to swap one out if you want to use another.
it's really unfortunate that characters don't really ever get rebalanced in this game.
Skill trees:
There was a Wurt and Wortox rebalance before
Wasn't that the entire point of the reworks every character got? And the skill trees that are releasing now?
@@bubbleeater7192 that was 10 months ago, iirc when only Wilson and maybe 1 or 2 others were out. I didn't think they'd be doing rebalancing with the skill trees at that time. I really like the new skill trees and how they've handled them.
@@zekerdeath ah alr, completely fair then considering the time.
You know you can combo potions right? Just saying
??? You can only equip one potion at a time
how is vengence worse than draught? doesn't it do the SAME thing but BETTER?
It does the same thing but costs over 3x more, and needs a living log. The damage reflection rarely happens, and when it does it is a measly 20 damage.
@@jakepeng9962 understandable I guess
Much, I subbed to you on twitch and you don't even stream on there, bro.
Yesss
kinda cringe ngl
Klei should rework Wendy and give her a skill tree soon.