Drinker's Chasers - Peter Pan Trailer Gets Demolished
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The recent trailer for Disney's Peter Pan & Wendy got ratiod into oblivion by the internet. Has the tide turned against remakes for "modern audiences"?
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The most ironic thing is that the original Wendy, on a theoretical level, is a very feminist character.
She is very positive, loving, caring and mature, and shows how basically a woman's figure is necessary for men to grow up.
Woke fools and modern feminism are too stupid to see this.
This!!!
100% accurate. Well said.
I love feminism. Not the woke weird version. But the nurturing and kind version. Like of course woman are strong and amazing, but there should also be a balance. I don’t get why thats such a crime nowadays? Like thats the woman Wendy portrayed and we loved that about her, why does everything involving a female protagonist have to involve her being stronger, perfect, and better than the male every time?
There is no kind version of feminism there never was
@@nameless.artist1513 because modern day feminism ceased to be about women years ago.
Now it's run by pink haired loons with chips on their shoulders that will sacrifice everything just to stick it to the men.
It's toxic stuff.
The biggest problem with girls being in the Lost Boys is that the whole point was that Peter bringing Wendy to Neverland introduced a feminine and motherly element which had previously been absent in the boys' lives. Wendy's presence amongst them matured the boys and made them decide they wanted to grow up after all and return to their own mothers. In their attempt to be "inclusive" and show that "girls are no different from boys", they've undermined the importance and uniqueness of Wendy as a character; even more so since they also appear to be reducing her feminine and motherly characteristics in order to change Wendy to be more of an adventurous swashbuckling girlboss character.
yes!!! excellent points!!
Left wingers don't like that kind of women though, in short because they actually have a positive impact on men. They hate men more than any other group.
I'd say flip it entirely, have the boys be smart and not assumed dumahhes and have the w0men incapable of listening and running off trying to find their independence which is more factual of real life than before.
I get your point, but lack of motherly presence can be as significant in boys' as in girls' lives. Yes, she stood out more as the only female presence (apart from Tinkerbell who was, as JBP described it, "a fairy of porn" lol), but that doesn't mean she still won't be the only mother-like figure there.
You mean thet they're doing to Wendy here what Rings of Power did to Galadriel.
Wendy represents normal, nurturing motherhood.
Corrupting her into a sterile girlboss removes the emotional heart of the story.
Because people like Disney think that "normal nurturing motherhood" is evil white supremacist bigoted patriarchal oppression
Just as planned.
Nurturing motherhood?
I think i must report you for hatespeach, we dont speak like that anymore in 2023.
@@henriklarssen1331 Are women even ALLOWED to be mothers any more? Aren't they just baby makers or people with vaginas or chest feeders or something?
Motherhood!?!?! Don't you mean "personwhocangivebirthhood"
The trailer doesn't include it, but the whole plot the pirates employ is to kidnap Wendy, so she can be THEIR mother, and tell them stories as well. The first writers meeting must be the Disney staff passing around a vintage copy of the book, ripping out the pages, and finding creative ways to destroy them.
Harlan Ellison famously ripped on Disney for never giving credit to the authors. It's not Walt Disney's Peter Pan, it's J.M.M Barrie's. Not Disney's Jungle Book, but Kipling's. Not Disney's Mary Poppins, but Travers, and on, and on. Disney is currently preemptively suing all the Marvel creators to keep them from taking advantage of the copyright window that will open soon and allow them to regain their lost ownership of the characters they created that made Disney billions, this includes Stan Lee's brother, Larry Lieber. I will never understand why so many people worship a company so hell bent on destroying the creators that made them what they are. Also insert the irony of cashing in so hard on stories about heroes and sacrificing for others when your business plan reads like a villains manifesto.
Wait, the 2000's live action didn't do something similar but actually good?
Like they wanted her to join the crew at some point as story teller, and she is actually tempted at first since she was ACTUALLY a character in that movie?
Tolkien hated disney so much he forbade them to ever touch his work
Actually they are erasing the white straight man from everthing, i fell sorry for my white friends. No more blond and bue eyes characters or red hair.
Don't forget that Disney has always supported Nazis, the classic, and the Neo.
Legitimately, an evil company run by evil people.
We are all watching you guys slowly turn from movie fans into critics into literary researchers.
Those three things aren't all that removed from each other. I for one became a fan of movies/games because it added another layer to my love of English literature
Into cultural warriors against these cultural vandals.
@@thembanitheone so true. I love the modern iterations of myths, heroes and villains. My particular go-tos are World of Warcraft, Warhammer 40K and Transformers.
And then further into rejecting modernity's foundations entirely 9:12
It's been a wild fking ride lol
PS: I think Hook is an underrated gem. It's beautiful and THAT is the modern retelling we need. The message of it also playing into finding a balance with not forgetting the preciousness of being a child while also realizing that growing up and letting go can be freedom.
It was a massive hit when it came out, with huge Hollywood actors starring in it, so I wouldn't call it underrated. 100% agreed that people should watch that movie instead of this one.
It's not underrated at all I think the underrated film is the live action movie made in 2003 that followed the book pretty accurately with a few minor changes.
@@empath9814 Totally agree about Peter Pan 2003. Totally underrated despite being so well done. Jason Isaacs as Hook is especially great
It's just a betrayal of the themes of the original story anyways.
The entire deeper moral of the story is how boys without a proper role model struggle to "grow up", and how the effect of a motherly influence on these "lost boys" helps them learn to mature.
It's also a recognition that young girls are forced to mature by the biological reality of puberty, while young boys need to be molded to become mature men, and if they aren't, they stay man-children forever.
It's a very relevant theme to the modern world, in western society we have a crisis of men staying childlike well into adulthood.
If you make the lost boys include girls, and you make Wendy into the action hero, it just kills the theme entirely.
another meaningless blur of action shots
I was about to write something similar but you absolutely nailed it. This remake has stripped the archetypal skeleton from the original story and is basically wearing the remains as a skinsuit. Oh well. Modern storytelling hasn't reflected archetypal truths for a while now and continuing to get steamed over this cultural vandalism isn't particularly productive when the originals are still there (for now).
Well i mean what do you expect from people actively trying to destroy the nuclear family despite the fact that we've seen the overwhelmingly disastrous results of children who grow up with no parental figures.
We don't have any crisis. Mgtow is a result of feminism.
@@DarkBykeTwitch those two statements don't logically follow.
Yes MGTOW is a result of modern radical feminism. But that doesn't mean it's a good thing. The destruction of male-female relationships in society is a crisis.
Tiger Lily and Tinkerbell were two examples of female characters living their best lives in adventure. I don't think there was any need to throw girls into the lost boys.
Beyond there being no need, it corrupts the core of the story, that Peter wants a mother to read them stories. Wendy is that feminine figure. To have Lost Girls defeats that entirely.
Disney is aware of this yet they don't have a care in the world.
(Unless Walt came back to life and yelled at them!)
Actually they are erasing the white straight man from everthing, i fell sorry for my white friends. No more blond and bue eyes characters or red hair.
All you can do is laugh at the irony. The drive to be "inclusive" does nothing but destroy the stories, themes and values that were classics precisely because of their universalism. The themes Peter Pan explores are not ideological or political, they're simply human. The "you're not boys," "So?!" line in the trailer decimates some of these universal themes in less than a second, quite impressive in a way.
it looks like gaslighting which a lot of woke movies tend to do a lot these days.
Is it working?
When she said "You're not all boys" I was expecting "We are if we say so!"
This is not an accident. It's the intended result. You put it perfectly: "inclusive" does nothing but destroy the stories, themes and values that were classics. Yes. Working as designed.
I've had it up to here with inclusivity.
In this clip, you boys have perfectly articulated the fundamental issue with this modern spin of Peter Pan and thus the broader issue with Disney
I read the book. Barrie wrote that girls were too clever to fall out of their bassinets and strollers like the boys did. That’s why Wendy going to Neverland was so special.
Also “hook” had a pretty diverse cast as well for being a 90s movie. They didnt focus on anyones skin color/gender/sexuality instead it focus on what connected them together through common ideology. It also sets the theme where its okay to be mature and still be connected to your inner child.
Deep peadophile connections to the whole look and feel of Hook.
Hook is great
Hook is one of my alltime favorite movies. My sister and I eventually wrecked the VHS from watching it too many times. Such an amazing movie
Little did we know the 80s and 90s were the last good times for movies like hook.
Rufio was my hero for a while, and that actor went on to play other inspiring characters throughout his career. Never once gave a crap about his race
I love the part when Wendy is blasted to space and she uses the force to return to Neverland.
And then tells everyone somehow Palpatine has returned... then they all look at her confused so she sits them and the pirates down and tells the story of star wars padding the run time out to like 16 hrs as the movies start with the phantom menace
You probably can survive in Neverland's space without the Force. It's a dreamlike realm after all.
It's about family. That's whats so powerful about it
My sides! 😂
I was expecting that we'd get Peter Pansexual.
But hey, there's still time. 🙃
There's a 0% chance there aren't openly precociously gay lost boys
Peter Pander showed up instead
For all you know, he is FTM.
Yes, that's supposed to be read as sarcasm.
"Peter Pansexual Meets Bi-Curious George"... I really shouldn't give Di$ney any ideas...
Tinkerbell became a "mascot character" for Disney, almost as much as Mickey. I'm sure some bright bulb thought they were earning extra bonus points for the race-swap.
What's aggravating is that I'm pretty sure no discussions as earnest and thoughtful as this went into "Peter Pan and Wendy". Most likely, they went down a flowchart or checklist, and anyone who put up the mildest of questions or objections was given a cold stare and/or invited to leave.
At this point, I really believe that is an IA generating Disney's movies scripts.
A Racist, Sexist, Anti-WOKE AI at that.
It's also generating most videos and comments on utube reddit etc.
A "modern" take on the story of Peter Pan and Wendy, would swap the roles.
It would be Peter that is swept up and taken to Neverland by Wendy, where he meets the "Lost Girls" who are just a bunch of thots ... and Captain Hook is a 50something years old "strong independent female" that is crazy about the fact that poor Peter has no interest in dating her!
Don’t give them more bad ideas…unless you are the type that want to watch the world burn.. which I can appreciate
That actually might be a good idea. Though instead a what-if scenario of Peter Pan and the Lost boys leaving and Wendy staying. Then like 30-40 years later when the lost boys are going through middle-age Wendy shows up and wisks them back to Neverland. Granted, this is sounding waaay to much like Hook, and current Hollywood should just leave that movie alone.
Yes!! The Jolly Roger would have no rum, but barrels and barrels of wine. Plus, this new captain would need a new name. This new captain would have a jellydong where her hand used to be...
And Hook would have a crew of cats
@@tuppybrill4915 So basically Hook would be Umbridge.
When Wendy unleashes *"SKY DRAGON'S ROAR!!!"* against Captain Hook and his pirate crew who use Armament Haki in battle, I smiled with pure happiness and glee.
fairy tail x one piece🤣
Edward teach woke culture
Never, ever, be sarcastic. It's becoming tiresome.
@Rex Lumontad You joke but I’d unironcially find that more entertaining than what modern Disney is doing nowadays. :)
@@Avarn388 A bit confused. Do you mean my comment was funny?
The 1953 Disney cartoon movie is the one I grew up on. And that's the one I watch.
I love the awful dialogue in the trailer when she sees there’s girls in the lost boys & it results in a “no, you” moment.
Yeah it’s like “no, you are MORE!”
"So!?" is certainly an example of the kind of scintillating repartee we've come to expect from modern Disney, lol.
Peter Pan was a coming off age story. There being only lost boys that didn't have a mother figure was essential to the storyline. Even young girls have baby dolls, tea parties, pretend marriage to their father and such things. The feminine aspect is always there. So having Lost Girls now takes away from the story. Wendy being the first and only female the boys knew, and them having to adapt to that, not treating her as a girl in the beginning (being too rough and rude). And later the material aspect of her taking care of the boys. That girls aren't boys and woman aren't men is the driving idea behind the plot. Wendy as a prepubescent girl falling for Peter also takes her into her new fase and want to grow up. Because she's becoming a woman. As much as that Peter has to take responsibility for her takes him into becoming a man. Disney just ducked up the entirety of the story basically. The taking of known characters and race and gender swapping them is just the flag upon the turd. Totally raping the story and taking the plot and just demolishing it, that's the steaming pile of 💩. Congratulations Disney. You've done it again. Only hope they go out of business fast.
Fantastic! Very well said!
@@liamrobinson2084 thanks
This is the problem with treating people EQUALLY instead of FAIRLY. We lose the awesome things make each group uniquely suited to tackle challenges other groups can't tackle. If I was a woman, I'd want people to show my natural traits being badass rather than forcing another group's traits on me.
Just watched the trailer, and... yeah, the fact that Wendy's clearly the center of focus and Peter's barely in it tells you a lot. Also, are we going to talk about the bit where it looks like Wendy literally takes a cannonball to the face? it's a blink and you'll miss it moment, but the cannonball *definitely* deflects in its path when it passes close to Wendy. I can't be the only one who saw that...
My favorite part of the trailer was when all the Lost Boys shouted, “I am woman. Hear me roar!”
And Wendy said, “I’m your huckleberry.” As she slow walked away from Skynet exploding and did her hero pose while Peter hugged her leg looking up at her as his goddess and savior of Neverland.
Yeah, I also loved the part when Peter gives the kids magic dust and tells them they can fly if they think of a happy thought
@@remuslazar2033 Pssh, that part is irrelevant to the plot. More explosions and men groveling at her feet please.
That still sounds like a better movie.
The fact that creators at Disney aren’t utterly embarrassed by the crap they pull shows just how very far apart they are ideologically from the general public.
I can’t wait for The Lion King live action remake where Simba becomes a black panther and discusses his oppression and feelings with Timon and Pumba. It will be a hit with modern audiences.
And Scar will be the hero for ending the inequality in the Animal Kingdom, supporting the poor, downtrodden hyenas.
And Timon and Pumba will be a lesbian couple...
Disney really watched Dreamworks singlehandly break their throne with Puss in Boots 2, and said “You know what this inspires us to do?
…
The same shit we’ve been doing, but worse.”
The trailer was a true piece oft art! I very nearly cried when Wendy single handedly fought off the invisible Captain Hook and told Peter in her endearing accent to "get to the Choppa!" ❤
How does Wendy develop as a character?
Disney: character development?
"Hang on to your hat, Marty. Where WE'RE going, there is no need for character development!"
Disney: We don't do that here.
Let's face it gents: the tick, tock, tick, tock, is no longer the crocodile, it's the lost girls biological clock.
Or if Wendy is Hispanic it can be the countdown until she inevitably gains 200 pounds
Peter Pan was about growing up and being better together, so it was only a matter of time before they came to destroy it.
"The Message!" is loud and clear in this one!
Disney fairies: *Exist*
Modern Disney: Hey let's race swap them
I have been thinking about this story a lot.
Children have the tendency to find growing up a bit intimidating, but as you get older, you begin to get less afraid of the act of maturing .
It’s just something that has to be done .
I read Pan years ago and what I remember is that it was darker than I thought a children’s story should be, as an adult I loved it. So many wonderful themes, and Disney just dragged it through the mud.
We've unfortunately watered down so many classic stories over the years we forget all the original classic children's stories are pretty dark but not without a lesson to be learned.
Drinker getting deep at 3:40 then cuts to a joke in what could only described as PERFECTION lol
I bet the writers didn't read the book
I disagree, I think they started reading it, got offended/triggered after the first paragraph and then threw it in the eternal bonfire of social justice, burning in some plaza in their headquarters while some transqueerbossthem with a septum nosering and purple / orange hair dye is yelling something about cleansing the world. May have exaggerated a bit on this one
@@angrybatarian Nah if anything you didnt go far enough.
@@angrybatarian I think you are spot on!!!
Love all that you do. Remember Darkman? Now that's a comic book made to movie before all others!
The race swapping wasn’t a problem back 20 years ago, I always assumed they just chose the best person for the job. It matters these days because we all know they do it deliberately to push their “message”.
Disparu makes a good point that the movie could be so much deeper and more interesting if it was set in modern day. Setting it in the same time as the source material adds incongruities. On the other hand, having watched the trailer, the visual effects are impressive, and that’s where the visually rich and story poor alarm started. Just pick an Isekai anime, blatantly copy the plot but change the characters’ names.
Correction isekai is way better than this shit
@@geniusgamerr4517 exactly my point, rip off SAO, Log Horizon, Gate, or whatever Isekai you want, just change the names and you will have a better movie.
It really says all that this... thing comes straight to D+.They aren't confident enough in their very own product to give it a spin in theaters. Like, imagine Aladdin or the Lion Ling back in the 90's were a direct to VHS release...
Loved this conversation on Open Bar. As a little girl, I was under immediate pressure to conform to a type of "girlhood" that I hated. I was put into beauty pageants, ballet, baton twirling and all manner of things I just hated. What I really loved when being out in the dirt, riding bikes and playing with the boys. I hated playing house and all that sh*t, lol. Tomboy to the bone for me.
As I grew into adolescence, I started to have a great fear of female adulthood. I was afraid I'd yet again be pressed into things I wasn't sure I wanted. Now, as a 43 year old, I've found a very good balance that suits me. I do have some regrets though, namely that I waited too long to mentally and intellectually grow. I feel I stunted myself and I'm now having to make up for lost time.
As much as we rag on women and girls right now, I deeply understand where they're coming from. I don't think the answer is to make girls into Lost Boys. They would be missing the wisdom, perspective and depth that adulthood has to offer. Plus if you do it right, you can still enjoy your inner child, as so many of us nerds do. *eyeballs my many action figures and statues*
Thanks for this talk though, guys. As one of your likely very few female audience members, it's nice to hear a bit of grace about women in storytelling. There's so much to do right, and yet so few are able to do it anymore.
One of my favourite Movies is Baz Lurmans Romeo And Juliet because they keep Shakespeares play 100% intact and still play a perfect 90s film.
Team Mercutio
The most telling thing is that disney Corp had to disable the youtube comments cause everyone was ripping it that badly. To me the definitive Pan was the 2003 universal production. Like no one should even bother to do a remake after that
I loved the part where Peter took the red pill off Morpheus and found out he was “The One”
lol time stamp? didn't see this bit
Then he exclaims "It's panning time!" I felt that
I was in awe when Peter picked up his gunblade, and said 'Hook's gonna need a bigger boat.'
When Peter and Wendy are hunting the crocodile and she says " We're going to need a bigger boat! " is spine tingling.
@@lescorlett4133 "No, Peter - *I* am your father." then Wendy shows him her estrogen meds I cried, stunning and brave
My favorite "modern" Peter Pan story was an audio book i tried because of a daily deal called "Lost Boy" by Christina Henry that reframes the story as more of a dark story where Peter Pan is not really the good guy we see in the original story. I found looking at the story from this different point of view pretty interesting. I wouldn't make a major motion picture out of it, but pretty interesting.
Why not make a major motion picture out of it?
Teaching kids not to put with manipulative, gaslighting assholes would be quite a decent message. Of course, this movie is gaslighting by a manipulative corporation run by assholes, so I guess they're not interested in that narrative.
Tbf in the original story Peter Pan was really dark, he killed the lost boys occasionally to cut their numbers down or killed them when they got too old, basically was a child snatcher too.
The Child Thief by Brom is another twisted reimagining. It’s not for someone who needs a happy ending. Dark stuff. He’s an amazing illustrator too.
Now *this* sounds interesting, I think I’ll go listen to that. Thanks for the recommendation!
The television show once upon a time took that angle on pan and it was actually done fairly well. It's a silly show but has some real talent like robert carlyle as rumpelstiltskin
Drinker would you bet that scene where Wendy is fighting 2 pirates is the scene she saves Peter ?
You can't ruin a great message any better than Disney these days. I would have never grown up were it not for my then GF/now wife of 27 years telling me to sh!t or get off the pot after living together for 2 years. Thank you Wendy, er, Sharon!!
I really believe the people destroying these classics don't understand storytelling.
They think if they write a script its a story.
They don't get dialogue, nuance, atmosphere and subtleties of undertone, and hidden meaning.
They have to blurt out everything, and explain all they churn out in terrible dialogue.
Somehow, Disney has completely forgotten what makes stories unique and special.
Even one’s that they themselves have done before. How is that even possible?
They replaced anyone with talent with people who mainly live on twitter.
There’s only one live action Peter Pan movie. It came out in 2003. It was my favorite movie as a child and it’s still one of my favorite movies. It’s more based off the book/play than based off the Disney movie.
I like the Robin Williams one, but that one just made me want to watch the other one. Though it’s been a while since I’ve seen it.
Jason Isaacs was the most brilliant casting of Mr. Barrie/Captain Hook in all the versions of Sir J.M. Barrie's brilliant Stageplay.
Honestly, the only "Hook" performance I loved better was when Fox Entertainment completely separated the concept of "real world England" from "Never-Neverland" with "Fox's Peter Pan and the Pirates" and cast Tim Curry as the voice actor of a singular, almost elemental version of Captain Hook.
@@proudliberal608 when I think of Captain Hook, Jason Isaacs’ version is the only one I can think of.
Funny, that: I just happen to be writing music for a Peter Pan adaptation. Screw you Disney. This is why we can't have nice things.
It's been amazing to see that ratio on the trailer. The first time I'd ever seen a big budget film/show get a ratio was Rings of Power. And since then the floodgates have opened, lol, with various other things getting impressive ratios, even big releases like this from Disney. And all those things went on to be disappointments for the studios. A sure sign that audiences have had enough.
problem is they never intended to give a deeper meaning to the story.
modern fims and tv shows are just feast for the eyes.
Damn! I had no idea The Drinker was a novelist. Gonna check this out!
Bro what? Where you been?
I heard about this new live-action movie early in the week. I joked with my boss that the Island of Lost Boys would have a girl/trans character because that's how movies are today.
*I'm genuinely angered that I was correct*
Crazy that Disney turned off the comments for the trailer.
There was an interview with one of the MCU actors who complained that Hollywood won't cast non-whites as villains.
Here's something I hadn't thought of before. We are all comparing this regurgitation to the original Disney movie.
Now I'm curious to see what the critics were saying about the original movie, as it relates to the source material.
You could easily modernize Peter Pan. The real world already did it. This guy takes his ship full of Pirates to an island full of minors. And Peter is traditionally played by a woman, so a woman helps the Pirates by bringing minors to the island.
Disney, more broadly the Wokie Brigade don't CARE if they destroy the original story. In fact, that is the POINT, even if they have to lose money to do it. They are all about the narrative that men and women are exactly the same and that what those "repressed Nineteenth Century people" thought about growing up, such as starting a family, is all wrong. Quite a lot of Disney's investors have failed to understand that Disney is no more a corporation whose end is to create entertainment goods and make a profit. Disney's "mission" has become the advancement of "Wokie culture" at whatever expense, as long as they have two nickels to rub together.
And as Hook says on the trailer "Where is Peter Pan?" hahahahaha
Nice video guys.
Btw, I grew up in South Africa when Apartheid was ended and Nelson Mandela became president. There was a weirdly similar thing in the Springboks (I am a rugby supporter), where there was a quota introduced. "Because black people didn't have the opportunities that white people did, there has to be at least 4 black people in the team, regardless of if there are better white players."
And so, the quality of the rugby obviously dipped. Not because black people can't play rugby, but because you promoted someone based on race, instead of talent, which doesn't make sense for a sporting event.
The good news is that when a pendulum swings, it usually does come back from the edges. Both edges were bad IMO (Apartheid was terrible, but unfair advantage for being black is bad too).
But now, after time, the Springboks are really good again, and one would say the team is picked on merit, and it includes a healthy mix of races that represent South Africa.
It's okay, we still have the live action Peter Pan movie from a while back. Just watch the one from 2003. I remember it being good in the 2010s when my sister showed it to me.
That'll always be the definitive live-action Peter Pan in my book.
Oh, I care about the Race Swap of characters...but I care about them because I know the creators making the swaps REALLY REALY care about them. And every time they do so, they have the audacity to immediately retort, "Why do you care about the race of a character?!? Are you some kind of racist?!?" The answer is obvious...if I shouldn't care, why do they care enough to change all of them and nearly all of them in one direction?
I agree with Andrew Breitbart when he said "Politics is downstream from culture." These creators know FOR A FACT how important these changes are and it's why they fight so hard to make them. Calling anyone who dares push back a "racist" is just a defense mechanism...
Love Disparu on these. Little nuggs of philosophical wisdom.
"Men don't grow up they just have more expensive toys..." OUCH... you leave my 16 guns I've purchased in the last 96hrs out of this mister.
I like the part where Peter Pan said ,"It's Pannin Time!" and then Wendy said, " Yea,I think I'M BACK!"
"So... that Happened" - Captain Hook
I also like the part when Peter, Wendy, John and Michael fly over London and arrive in Neverland.
Not entirely in topic, but just before the video started, I saw an advert showing the royal mail doing X men stamps. Had a bit of a giggle about it.
To keep it a buck. I don't think there's a single person who saw the changes made on that trailer and genuinely felt happy and excited about it.
@15:37 made me realize that the voice actress - is her name Mindy? - is actually a pretty good match for Velma and her look.
This has Artemis Dowl stink all over it!
The filmmakers likely chose never to grow up. So of course they wouldn't understand Peter Pan.
This hook is literal perfection - Captain Hook
It will be...when it fits a women. - Captain Girl Boss
Why do actors go into a movie that they know will bomb?
I love these discussions so much.
l now hope they remake ‘Wizard of Oz’, with the Rock playing the roll of Dorothy.
I cannot delive in this time that there are still movies with male leads, this should be called wendy!
Let me guess...
Despite having fought Hook for who knows how long and acting essentially as the guardian of Neverland, Peter is going to portrayed as an awkward, bumblling little lad whose swordfighting ability pales in comparison to Wendy's 'pOtEnTiAl', and the "Lost Girls" are going to be the stoic badasses who roll their eyes at the boys' antics. Simultaneously the boys won't be welcoming of Wendy because "she's a girl!" despite already having girls among their number, and the girls are going to instantly welcome Wendy into the group while constantly bigging her up.
Am I close?
I think Disparu is forgetting that what he described that they could do by bringing the story into modern times, would actually be saying those consequences were BAD things…. Disney does not want to portray those consequences as BAD, it’s exactly the opposite. Those consequences are what they are promoting as GOOD!
Funny thing is, Peter was traditionally played by a girl and they didn’t go for that at all
Too mainstream.
😉
I can not. Agree. More! You gents are all spot on with this.
It's honestly like Disney are parodying themselves at this point. The only thing missing from the trailer is Wendy groaning "ugh, CIS white men!" and rolling her eyes after she easily fends off multiple pirates.
While free bleeding and spouting the tenets of socialism...
The day this movie comes out, I'm just going to rewatch the original 1953. Maybe I'll rewatch Hook too.
I also recommend giving the 2003 Peter Pan a watch.
Marco Hidalgo Oh, yeah. That one is great too!
it feels like Disney+ are purposely making it as unappealing as possible. Getting people talking is as good as getting people watching.
I hope this Peter Pan and the Little Mermaid are such huge unmitigated flops that they are forced to fire everyone involved and do a complete 180 on this utter crap.
By making men and women the same you rob both of their uniqueness
What’s most annoying about Disney is that despite their woke failures they still seem to be doubling down on this shit.
If there's one thing a guy loathes its a girl that thinks she's a guy. Not "one of the guys", those girls we love. It's a girl who thinks she's a guy.
The saying is: "You can tell the men from the boys by the price of their toys." It's a saying here in the US.
actually, they should just go with this movie's rationale for the "X-MEN"... "we're the X-MEN!" "you're not a MAN!" "soooo?"
done and done.
It's X-Ma'am
See, the trick with Hook is that it required a modicum of originality to create, and I don't think they're allowed to make those kinds of movies anymore. Oh! Maybe the overarching plot connecting all of Disney's remakes is that Disney itself is now stuck in Neverland and can't move beyond the past...
Also it’s not Peter Pan, it’s Peter Pan and Wendy!
I am surprized that they did not cast Smollett for Tinkerbell.
There is no magic or imagination left in the Kingdom...............
At the end, someone will ask Wendy her name and she will proudly reply, "I'm Wendy Skywalker".
It is Disney. They will use the same script as every other Disney movie in the past 10 years.
Wendy will be perfect, clever, knowledgeable, and everyone will fall in love with her.
Tinkerbell will be her sidekick pushing Wendy to recognize how perfect she is.
Petter Pan will be the inept comic relief that needs saving from his own bumblings.
Captain Hook will be changed from the anti-villian representing the real world forcing children to grow up, into a bad guy who does bad things just to be bad because of his skin color.
Disney are literally going back to great stories which boost the qualities of women and saying nope! That’s not right! Women should be the same if not better than the male characters!
Peter Pan was originally played by a woman in the 1904 theatrical production, a tradition that continued in the theater for decades. I’m surprised that Disney didn’t cast a woman as Peter considering the historical precedent.
May this fail just as badly as The Little Wokemaid will