Just bought a 10.5t and 60amp sensored setup for my car as I watched this video. I’ve been on the fence about but this video helped finalize it. Thanks man
I was just re-watching some older videos and reminded how much things have changed since this video. We now have the HW 10BL120 G2 with Boost and Turbo for $50 USD and the 10BL60 still brings in the budget end once again w no boost/turbo but with all the great stuff we need to drift. Its a cool time to be into drift!
Just put a 10BL60 and a 3650 13.5T Hobbywing in my Original Tamiya Fox. On 2s it cant keep the nose down. Love it (until I blow out the gears, and need to source more). ESC is completely enclosed with no airflow and runs great w/o overheating.
@@RoadsideRC thanks! I've been looking at the rocket v5r drift. It looks the business but a bit pricey. Will I still enjoy drifting as much with a budget motor esc setup? Will I straight away wish I had better control?
@@RoadsideRC shall I just put a brushed in? I was about to fit and old brushed 10T reedy pulse r in the Xv-01 I'm building right now. Maybe that would be better in the d5 🤔 what do you think?
when I first put my d5 together all i had lying around was a traxxas slash brushed esc and motor combo lying around and i threw it in the d5 and it was completely driftable. that's how I figured out that guys were over spending like crazy on their esc and motors. i later switched to the quick run bl120 and the v3 rocket 10.5t and i am pretty happy with it. Would also like to mention that the 10.5t motor according to surpass is 3s capable so if you want that as an option the bl120 is the way you wanna go for esc and its like 10 bucks more or when on sale the same price.
Not sure about the 60 but the 10bl120 (£38 in the uk) has adjustable timing, it feels identical to the Toro120 at less than half the price. My D5, 10bl120 and speedpassion 10.5 (£37 in uk) hangs with absolutely anyone. I just cannot understand why anyone would spend any more? You get much much higher performance by learning to drive lmao.
Interesting clip , I just wired up my 10bl60 and hw 13.5 in an M08R . It blew the tires off before it left the bench ! Will glue tmoro . I like using the program card , way nicer than pushing a little button . Cheers .
Awesome, just got a used Sakura D4 with some sketchy electronics, low budget works till I figure out how big I wanna go with this hahaha, Thanks again for the Info.
Glad it was helpful. I would not suggest spending $$$ on D4 parts. The D5 is a much better chassis, and just over $100. Electronics are great though, as you can swap them over later.
Great video, I'm all about budget quality electronics... I've tried the top notch Castle systems and the inexpensive GoolRC systems. Of course you can't go wrong with Castle, but if you have several rc cars, you can easily break the bank equipping all your rigs with top of the line electronics. Thanks for showing that sometimes budget electronics are just as good However, drivers skill has a lot to do with being the local "Drift King".
Yeah i went with the same setup albeit a 10BL120, that 10.5T motor can suck 62A... just a heads up for anyone looking to replicate this. Using the 120A will keep the esc cool in low air movment conditions as the esc will never even feel the current the motor is asking for.
I'm using the 120 as well, had the Rocket v3 and neither got warm fanless. I run the D10 now, fanless off the 120 and it works a champ for indoor sessions. I did let the magic smoke out of my first 120 after the battery plug tagged the fan header on the being removed one day, but I went w a second 120 because I liked it well enough to do so.
Can also use the set button.. Had the same esc in my first drift build.. Works great.. Also running the 10bl120 in my fxx-d.. 👌 Love these cheap budgets tests of yours 😅👌
Great Video Troy! I've just sold a rocket V3 which I had bought to go with a 10BL120, as I decided to go with the HW XR10 Justock combo. After watching this I might buy another V3 as a back up combo now 🤦🏼♂️ Thanks for the info man! Keep the videos coming ✌🏼
@@RoadsideRC the 10BL120 was planned to be my first, but the YD2 I bought came with the justock already in. Think I'll be keeping the 10BL120 though now 😁
Some great information and from my standing some great proof. I always tell people to work on a budget, dont try to get what everyone else has, buy what you think will work. You don't need to have the top of the line, best of the best stuff to go out and have fun. I have 2 drifters the first is a Yokomo yd-2e with a Hobbyworks 60a esc and 3600 kv brushless uncensored motor ($150 australian) running with the stock spur gear and an 18t pinion and for me its a comfortable speed with enough power to have a crash with the best of them. My second is an MST RMX 2.0 Classic it has only been driven once with some ridiculous radio that has some issues but it has an older Hobbywing 35a esc with a 4000kv uncensored motor (approx $250 about 3 years ago) running a stock spur and a 22t pinion. Both of my cars are stock with no upgrades except for the turnbuckle kit for the MST which was needed to add some adjustability to the car, but as is typical of many of the people around me they always say my stuff is crap because its not the best of the best, top of the line, costing hundreds of $$$$ or running every possible upgrade or pretty piece. Its not about how much you spend, what your car looks like, what noises it makes its about having FUN and NOT going BROKE while doing it. Yes I would like some extra bits and pieces some new radios maybe a sensored setup for one of my cars but being unemployable, living fortnight to fortnight on unemployment makes it impossible to get them, so I share my theory of budget rc with everyone not through my youtube channel i just cover the action for now but in person when I talk to people. Dont let your hobby break you, play within your budget, buy the best you can afford and dont try to match it with people who have more $$$ than sense.
I agree!!!! Next - I need to really bust this myth(?) on needing a sensored motor. It is certainly needed for timing adjustment + turbo and boost....but the MST RTR can get away without a sensored motor. Wonder if the rest of us can also....
@@RoadsideRC I think they all could if people just geared them properly and if your esc is programmable the change its setup. YES good electronics help but they are not always needed as you have proved here cheap stuff works and can last just as long as expensive stuff. I love these sort of videos, they help point me in the right direction but also can make those spending all sorts of money on unnecessary stuff feel a little stupid.
I would like to try them. But, I do believe that the motor and ESC are not very important in RC drifting (compared to gyro, alignment, controller), so hard to justify the price.
@@RoadsideRC I bought a 7pxr so with subs I get telemetry and I drive at the Rolling Garage track.. so those guys talked me into it… that’s my story at least.. really I just want to see what the top of the line can do
The cheapest that I would recommend based on functionality is 10bl120 g2 More expensive electronics offer more settings, wireless programmability, higher power efficiency, throttle sensitivity and quality but for the start, cheap speed controllers are awesome
Don't sleep on surpass. People mock them cause of pricing but they make top quality motors. I used their Rocket V6 motors in my B7 and it's much faster than all the other motors at my track. They all run Team Powers V5 motors that cost 129.99 and I showed up with my $80 surpass motor and had all their jaws on the floor lol. A few though I was running boost and Turbo on my esc lol.
@RoadsideRC everyone was noticing how much more power it had over their team powers motors. On the dyno it also tests much higher too and pulls less amps. I'm buying the rocket v6 for all my cars. Getting a 13.5 for the T6.4 next. I'm curious how their Thunder Drift motors are. Im also convinced surpass is the parent company to most of these brands. 90% of the brands we talk about are all rebranded items. These companies aren't manufacturing their own stuff.
@@RoadsideRC that same motor and a teampowers xps sport v3 from asiatees costs almost the same as a BL120 but has turbo and boost options I run that esc on my usukani NGE no complaints 😬
Have you had any issues running that 10.5 turn motor with that escape over the last 6 months ?. Does the motor overload the escape at all seeing that it states nothing lower than 13.5 turns on 2 cell lipo ?. And do you think that combo would work for an off-road four-wheel drive buggy 1/10 scale ?.
Hi Troy I have a question about the hobbywing program card.... My Esc is hobbywing xerun 120a v2.1 is it possible to setting turbo with the program card the same like what you use for that esc on this video? Or I have to buy other program card to setting my esc turbo? Thanks before
Btw..? 😅👌 How often do you change your ball bearings on the front wheels? 😊 🤔 I have been struggling with keeping mine nice and clean and keeping them rolling at max effiancy.. The car is a mst fxx-d 2.0s
Power is not really what we are after. These cars don't need power - they need wheelspeed in certain situations. I still run brushed in the Yokomo RTR car - just to prove the point you bring up. The best setups are the brushless sensored setups that allow turbo and boost and more programmable throttle curves. A brushed setup will work, but will be sub-par. I certainly wouldn't go into and spend money buying a brushed setup.
@@RoadsideRC and thats a pretty good and clear explanation. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I have alot of brushed stuff and also brushless. Start touring club racing this year. And also want to try drift. I will start with brushed first. As i like to start doing things to discover what works what not. Instead of just buying the lastest and greatest. The hobby for me is the learning curve and trying different things. Awesome videos keep up the great work. It helps a tonne!
Troy, it might be worth mentioning that this will not work on Sakura D5 or other cars that require CW for forward. When running sensored, the 10BL120 is only meant to be run counter clockwise for forward. There is no way to change CW/CCW in the esc settings. The Sakura requires clockwise for forward. When running sensored the manual for the 10BL120 states that you cannot switch the A,B, and C wires to physically change the direction of the motor. Calibration of the ESC only sets end points. Changing the channel to reverse on the transmitter only limits the max reverse force or in this case, forward force. I would assume this applies to the 10BL60 as well. I hope this is useful for others. If running a Sakura you need an ESC that is capable of switching CW/CCW in the ESC programming.
It all depends on where and how a person wants to drift. For someone in their garage, just having fun - this system is more than enough. For someone on track in a more competitive setting, they will want the nicer setup.
@@RoadsideRC what would u recommend for me the only track in my area shut down. I don’t know anybody else doing this in my area .I drift on my driveway and the the tennis court in my neighborhood .I have a hsp converted to rwd I like this hobby a lot but at the same time it’s like why put so much money if I don’t know anybody to enjoy it with .
Hey Troy. Would this setup be better than what would be found in RTRs? I just pulled the trigger on the new Redcat RDS RTR and now I'm wondering if this budget combo is better than what I'm getting. Great channel, just subbed. Keep up the great work
Yes - it is better than a factory setup due to the sensored setup. However, not drastically different. I 100% suggest running the factory setup for awhile before upgrading.
@@RoadsideRChey I just bought the redcat Aswell ,installed gyro v4 ,upgraded horn,upgraded servo,would you recommend this combo to work good still for boost and turbo ?
Hi just wondering, after buying these, would you also need to go and buy a new transmitter? or can you just use the stock one that comes with the car? Thanks!!
Battery recommendations: ua-cam.com/video/Y0WOUP5CHL4/v-deo.html Gearing: there is no "correct" answer. You will change the gearing based on the size of the track.
@@RoadsideRC there is no track here, I live in the French countryside !!! I'm going to the gym, I'm looking for a sprocket that goes everywhere!! it's for leisure, my car will be Sakura D5MR.V2, thank you
I would need to get a BL120. Don't have one right now. Doubt there would be a lot of difference. Should be like you see here, with just a little more power...
@dawber2111 The RPM is determined by the voltage, not the amperage. The amperage may help it get to max RPM faster, but that is it. Honestly, so much of drifting is small throttle movements that I doubt it will be a big change.
Hi Troy, loving your channel, can you help, got gt3c transmitter with a hobbywing 10bl60 esc, can't get the throttle to work even tho I've tried to calibrate but not getting the green flashing led to set brake neutral etc, when set button is pressed then powered on only getting solid red light. kind regards Jason
@@RoadsideRC yer done that in channel 2 with the gyd 470 in channels 1 and 3 when I power on esc fan comes on and a solid red light which goes out after a few seconds, esc does work as when I take out the gyro and replace it with the esc in channel 1 the throttle works but obviously only on the transmitters wheel
I honestly don't remember if the esc will work in non-sensored mode. I believe it will. However, there really isn't any advantage to running it like that.
My son has been bashing a cheap hbx16889 and was really curious about drifting. My local shop has 2 tracks you can rent out 25$/h with their cars but the shop owner doesn't want young kids to try it out.. I have to admit that the drifting community seems pretty elitist to me and not very inclusive for what started as a business for kids no? Anyways I enjoy your videos and maybe it will be a solution to my budget considerations.. initially saw your recommendation for gyro/ESC/etc and every single piece was the price of a small 1/16 basher it was a bit discouraging.. but that might be a good foot in.. Also since my son can't try or practice at the track.. he'll have to try at home and actually spend some $$
Hi there Louis, Yes - some tracks are very protective. They have been burned too many times by folks tearing the place up...but unfortunately that puts in a barrier for new folks to learn! Honestly, the best way to get started with RWD drifting is either the MST or Yokomo RTR cars. MST: www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=4b85b2b7-558e-4304-89fc-54958c8f47f0&website_id=caf4cba5-8e5f-43be-93b7-934f1a36d50d&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amainhobbies.com%2Fmst-rmx-2.0-1-10-2wd-brushless-rtr-drift-car-w-a90rb-body-red-mxs-533822r%2Fp1403117 Yokomo: www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=4b85b2b7-558e-4304-89fc-54958c8f47f0&website_id=caf4cba5-8e5f-43be-93b7-934f1a36d50d&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amainhobbies.com%2Fyokomo-yd2-1-10-2wd-rtr-drift-car-w-supra-body-white-yokdp-yd2rtrw%2Fp1433931 The MST is better straight out of the box. The Yokomo is better long-term. If your son really enjoys drifting, then he has a solid platform to put upgrades onto. If your son does not enjoy drifting, then you will be able to re-sale the car for most of the original purchase price (assuming it is in good shape). If you have other questions, feel free to ask.
I just bought a sakura D5 and going to put the surpass hobby motor in it but the kit didn't come with a motor pinion gear since the motor is a 10.5T do I have to get a pinion gear with the same ratio?
You will need to match the gear pitch (distance between the teeth) to the spur gear. It is a 32p gear, if I remember correctly. Something like this: amzn.to/446tBMI Then, you test the different gear ratios based on the size of the track you are driving on.
Would you help me!I did the Esc calibration process, but when I accelerate forward it goes backwards and when I accelerate backwards it goes forward! What could it be?
@@RoadsideRC Yes, I already tried the reverse but it didn't work! besides being inverted, reverse has much more force than accelerating forward! I've tried everything and I can't solve it
@PXCURSOS Are you running sensored? If yes - you need to change the rotation direction in the ESC. If you are NOT running sensored, then swap two motor wires.
@@RoadsideRCI've already tried both ways! I already tried with and without a sensor and the same thing continued! When I change channel two to reverse it becomes normal, I accelerate and it goes forward and I press to go backwards and it goes backwards, but the issue of having more strength in reverse remains! Would it be an option to invert the esc wires that go to the motor in the order A - C, C-A?
I've ran the 10bl60 for awhile now with the quickrun 10.5 motor on stock settings, looking into bumping up the timing now it has me worried from the directions. Is it safe to bump it up to the same timing as you did without over heating or maybe something else going wrong? I run in the garage and p-tile.
Just bought a 10.5t and 60amp sensored setup for my car as I watched this video. I’ve been on the fence about but this video helped finalize it. Thanks man
Glad to be a help!
Good luck with the build!
Im so glad you made this video. I'm planning to build my first drift rc and I might copy your set up🙂. Thanks, Troy!
Glad to help! Let me know if you have any other questions along the way.
I was just re-watching some older videos and reminded how much things have changed since this video. We now have the HW 10BL120 G2 with Boost and Turbo for $50 USD and the 10BL60 still brings in the budget end once again w no boost/turbo but with all the great stuff we need to drift. Its a cool time to be into drift!
Yes sir! I agree 100%!!
Just put a 10BL60 and a 3650 13.5T Hobbywing in my Original Tamiya Fox. On 2s it cant keep the nose down. Love it (until I blow out the gears, and need to source more). ESC is completely enclosed with no airflow and runs great w/o overheating.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for the feedback!
Just bought a d5 version 2 as my 1st drift chassis. this is the 1st drift how to video I've seen and you nailed it for me. Thanks
Glad it helped! Let me know if you have questions along the way.
@@RoadsideRC thanks! I've been looking at the rocket v5r drift. It looks the business but a bit pricey. Will I still enjoy drifting as much with a budget motor esc setup? Will I straight away wish I had better control?
@@eltelturbo You are 100% OK with a more budget motor. It is literally the lowest priority item on a drift car.
@@RoadsideRC shall I just put a brushed in? I was about to fit and old brushed 10T reedy pulse r in the Xv-01 I'm building right now. Maybe that would be better in the d5 🤔 what do you think?
@@eltelturbo It would not be better than the rocket v5, but it will work.
Great help for beginners. I will recommend this video
Thanks!
Good to know as i just bought the esc to use with a moforc BAM in my TRX4M
Hope it works well for you!
when I first put my d5 together all i had lying around was a traxxas slash brushed esc and motor combo lying around and i threw it in the d5 and it was completely driftable. that's how I figured out that guys were over spending like crazy on their esc and motors. i later switched to the quick run bl120 and the v3 rocket 10.5t and i am pretty happy with it. Would also like to mention that the 10.5t motor according to surpass is 3s capable so if you want that as an option the bl120 is the way you wanna go for esc and its like 10 bucks more or when on sale the same price.
Yes! I keep thinking of doing a brushed setup also.
Thanks!
@@RoadsideRC it's totally doable. I was surprised at how well it worked.
Not sure about the 60 but the 10bl120 (£38 in the uk) has adjustable timing, it feels identical to the Toro120 at less than half the price. My D5, 10bl120 and speedpassion 10.5 (£37 in uk) hangs with absolutely anyone. I just cannot understand why anyone would spend any more? You get much much higher performance by learning to drive lmao.
Yes! In the video I show how to adjust the timing and the different settings the 10BL60 has.
I agree - the biggest upgrade is the driver upgrade!
@@RoadsideRC Yeah I spoke too soon lol, you can do all the programming from the button on the switch too.
Interesting clip , I just wired up my 10bl60 and hw 13.5 in an M08R .
It blew the tires off before it left the bench ! Will glue tmoro . I like using the program card , way nicer than pushing a little button . Cheers .
Nice! Hope you tame that monster.
Awesome, just got a used Sakura D4 with some sketchy electronics, low budget works till I figure out how big I wanna go with this hahaha, Thanks again for the Info.
Glad it was helpful.
I would not suggest spending $$$ on D4 parts. The D5 is a much better chassis, and just over $100.
Electronics are great though, as you can swap them over later.
Great video, I'm all about budget quality electronics... I've tried the top notch Castle systems and the inexpensive GoolRC systems. Of course you can't go wrong with Castle, but if you have several rc cars, you can easily break the bank equipping all your rigs with top of the line electronics.
Thanks for showing that sometimes budget electronics are just as good
However, drivers skill has a lot to do with being the local "Drift King".
100% agree!
Yeah i went with the same setup albeit a 10BL120, that 10.5T motor can suck 62A... just a heads up for anyone looking to replicate this. Using the 120A will keep the esc cool in low air movment conditions as the esc will never even feel the current the motor is asking for.
You are right, the 120 is more than capable for it.
I'm using the 120 as well, had the Rocket v3 and neither got warm fanless. I run the D10 now, fanless off the 120 and it works a champ for indoor sessions. I did let the magic smoke out of my first 120 after the battery plug tagged the fan header on the being removed one day, but I went w a second 120 because I liked it well enough to do so.
Can also use the set button.. Had the same esc in my first drift build.. Works great.. Also running the 10bl120 in my fxx-d.. 👌 Love these cheap budgets tests of yours 😅👌
Thanks!
Great Video Troy!
I've just sold a rocket V3 which I had bought to go with a 10BL120, as I decided to go with the HW XR10 Justock combo.
After watching this I might buy another V3 as a back up combo now 🤦🏼♂️
Thanks for the info man! Keep the videos coming ✌🏼
Thanks!
What ESC were you using before?
@@RoadsideRC the 10BL120 was planned to be my first, but the YD2 I bought came with the justock already in.
Think I'll be keeping the 10BL120 though now 😁
that's the set up I have in my D-5 MR chassis ,ok time to watch the video
Thanks!
Love the channel, I got a Sakura D5 after watching several vids! Keep up the good work, and please get a new drift car body (no hand-me-downs)!!
Ha! What is wrong with my drift car body!?!?
A cheap body makes crashing into the wall hurt a lot less! :)
Some great information and from my standing some great proof. I always tell people to work on a budget, dont try to get what everyone else has, buy what you think will work. You don't need to have the top of the line, best of the best stuff to go out and have fun.
I have 2 drifters the first is a Yokomo yd-2e with a Hobbyworks 60a esc and 3600 kv brushless uncensored motor ($150 australian) running with the stock spur gear and an 18t pinion and for me its a comfortable speed with enough power to have a crash with the best of them.
My second is an MST RMX 2.0 Classic it has only been driven once with some ridiculous radio that has some issues but it has an older Hobbywing 35a esc with a 4000kv uncensored motor (approx $250 about 3 years ago) running a stock spur and a 22t pinion.
Both of my cars are stock with no upgrades except for the turnbuckle kit for the MST which was needed to add some adjustability to the car, but as is typical of many of the people around me they always say my stuff is crap because its not the best of the best, top of the line, costing hundreds of $$$$ or running every possible upgrade or pretty piece.
Its not about how much you spend, what your car looks like, what noises it makes its about having FUN and NOT going BROKE while doing it. Yes I would like some extra bits and pieces some new radios maybe a sensored setup for one of my cars but being unemployable, living fortnight to fortnight on unemployment makes it impossible to get them, so I share my theory of budget rc with everyone not through my youtube channel i just cover the action for now but in person when I talk to people. Dont let your hobby break you, play within your budget, buy the best you can afford and dont try to match it with people who have more $$$ than sense.
I agree!!!!
Next - I need to really bust this myth(?) on needing a sensored motor. It is certainly needed for timing adjustment + turbo and boost....but the MST RTR can get away without a sensored motor. Wonder if the rest of us can also....
@@RoadsideRC I think they all could if people just geared them properly and if your esc is programmable the change its setup. YES good electronics help but they are not always needed as you have proved here cheap stuff works and can last just as long as expensive stuff.
I love these sort of videos, they help point me in the right direction but also can make those spending all sorts of money on unnecessary stuff feel a little stupid.
Yes sir. Great comparison. That motor DID do pretty awesome Troy. I guess the test now would be longevity. Thanks for sharing bud
You nailed it!
Good news - many folks are my local track have been using it for awhile, so not really concerned about durability/longevity.
Your realization was priceless great video
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Them rocket v3 not bad I use 5.5 turn in my drag car with the 120 quick run ran 2.4 with it.
Glad to hear it!
Good stuff
Because I've just bought this motor 👍😁👍
Thanks for the vid
Glad it was helpful! Good luck!
I would like to see you review high end, can you compare these to Accuvance XXARVIS ?
I would like to try them. But, I do believe that the motor and ESC are not very important in RC drifting (compared to gyro, alignment, controller), so hard to justify the price.
@@RoadsideRC I bought a 7pxr so with subs I get telemetry and I drive at the Rolling Garage track.. so those guys talked me into it… that’s my story at least.. really I just want to see what the top of the line can do
pros and cons then mate
*a big like👍Au👍always a full view*
Thanks!
The cheapest that I would recommend based on functionality is 10bl120 g2
More expensive electronics offer more settings, wireless programmability, higher power efficiency, throttle sensitivity and quality but for the start, cheap speed controllers are awesome
I'm waiting to get my hands on that new ESC. I agree - I think it might be a great starting point for folks, but want to test it first.
Don't sleep on surpass. People mock them cause of pricing but they make top quality motors. I used their Rocket V6 motors in my B7 and it's much faster than all the other motors at my track. They all run Team Powers V5 motors that cost 129.99 and I showed up with my $80 surpass motor and had all their jaws on the floor lol. A few though I was running boost and Turbo on my esc lol.
Oh 100% - they are much better than some folks give them credit for!
@RoadsideRC everyone was noticing how much more power it had over their team powers motors. On the dyno it also tests much higher too and pulls less amps. I'm buying the rocket v6 for all my cars. Getting a 13.5 for the T6.4 next. I'm curious how their Thunder Drift motors are. Im also convinced surpass is the parent company to most of these brands. 90% of the brands we talk about are all rebranded items. These companies aren't manufacturing their own stuff.
Do you have a video that teaches you how to do the initial configuration by turning on the Esc hobbywing quickrun 120a for the first time?
Good news - there really isn't much to it. I think this video has it in it:
ua-cam.com/video/LPVY8W74l5c/v-deo.html
@@RoadsideRC Very good! Thank you my friend! A hug from Brazil 🇧🇷
I run 2 of those motors they be good 👍 no complaints on it 😬
Agree - motor goes burrr. :)
I haven't found a cheaper combo that meets the needs yet. Maybe it is out there - but not sure.
@@RoadsideRC that same motor and a teampowers xps sport v3 from asiatees costs almost the same as a BL120 but has turbo and boost options I run that esc on my usukani NGE no complaints 😬
Have you had any issues running that 10.5 turn motor with that escape over the last 6 months ?. Does the motor overload the escape at all seeing that it states nothing lower than 13.5 turns on 2 cell lipo ?. And do you think that combo would work for an off-road four-wheel drive buggy 1/10 scale ?.
I have had no issues with it. However, I also don't think it would be a good setup for 4WD.
Great video!! This made me decide I’ll get that combo! Or I was thinking of the onisiki motor for the same price
Glad I could help!
Hi Troy I have a question about the hobbywing program card.... My Esc is hobbywing xerun 120a v2.1 is it possible to setting turbo with the program card the same like what you use for that esc on this video? Or I have to buy other program card to setting my esc turbo? Thanks before
I am not sure which esc you have from your comment. There is a lot of variants of the xerun.
Your manual will show how to set the turbo and boost.
Great Setup !
Thanks!
Btw..? 😅👌 How often do you change your ball bearings on the front wheels? 😊 🤔 I have been struggling with keeping mine nice and clean and keeping them rolling at max effiancy.. The car is a mst fxx-d 2.0s
I lube my bearings like this: ua-cam.com/video/BprT_1cZz8U/v-deo.html
I have been looking at body's for a drift car mainly all I see is imports, and not cheap at all...they go for around 150
There are a lot of options out there if you keep looking!
Awesome video excellent car definitely great performance both was
I agree!
I ordered a QR10BL120 and QR3650 g2 combo and a yokomo Dp302 v4 gyro for my yokomo rd1.0, what else do i need?
Sounds like good choices so far.
You also need a servo, tires, wheels, body, and transmitter.
Just installed the hobbywing 10BL60 in my sukura d5 and wanted to know did you take off the plastic around the capacitors?
Nope! Leave it on.
surpass hobby makes motors for most companies that you see on the market. the rocket is their verson which is good quality.
Thanks!
what battery are you using on this set up? and how do I know how to pick the right battery
I created a video to answer this exact question. Here you go:
ua-cam.com/video/Y0WOUP5CHL4/v-deo.html
Do you need all that power. Cos i wana build a tamiya tt02 rwd for drift. And the japanese are drifting the tamiyas with silver can brushed motors
Power is not really what we are after. These cars don't need power - they need wheelspeed in certain situations.
I still run brushed in the Yokomo RTR car - just to prove the point you bring up.
The best setups are the brushless sensored setups that allow turbo and boost and more programmable throttle curves.
A brushed setup will work, but will be sub-par.
I certainly wouldn't go into and spend money buying a brushed setup.
@@RoadsideRC and thats a pretty good and clear explanation. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I have alot of brushed stuff and also brushless. Start touring club racing this year. And also want to try drift. I will start with brushed first. As i like to start doing things to discover what works what not. Instead of just buying the lastest and greatest. The hobby for me is the learning curve and trying different things. Awesome videos keep up the great work. It helps a tonne!
@fab_cab Awesome! Good luck on your journey!
Troy, it might be worth mentioning that this will not work on Sakura D5 or other cars that require CW for forward. When running sensored, the 10BL120 is only meant to be run counter clockwise for forward. There is no way to change CW/CCW in the esc settings. The Sakura requires clockwise for forward. When running sensored the manual for the 10BL120 states that you cannot switch the A,B, and C wires to physically change the direction of the motor. Calibration of the ESC only sets end points. Changing the channel to reverse on the transmitter only limits the max reverse force or in this case, forward force. I would assume this applies to the 10BL60 as well. I hope this is useful for others. If running a Sakura you need an ESC that is capable of switching CW/CCW in the ESC programming.
The car in the video...is a Sakura D5.
@@RoadsideRC Maybe D5 MR is different? That’s what I installed on. I used the same motor in the video as well.
@@WhiskeyRunnerOne Maybe! But there are a few folks who run them locally and never brought up that concern. Odd indeed!
The 10BL120 and Rocket V3 10.5T combo is working just great in my Sakura D5 MR.
Hate to sound childish but the xd10 makes a sweet whistle when near full power does this cheaper esc do the same with timing?
Not exactly sure the sound you are talking about. I assume it probably does not.
Ive got a v3 Pro coming in a few days and I'm pairing it with the Quickrun 10bl120 g2, incredibly nervous😂
You've got this! Great combo - it will do great.
Great setup and information
Thanks 👍
Awesome comparison
Thanks!
What’s more worth it to u .with the other motor u have way more adjustments turbo ,boost etc
It all depends on where and how a person wants to drift.
For someone in their garage, just having fun - this system is more than enough.
For someone on track in a more competitive setting, they will want the nicer setup.
@@RoadsideRC what would u recommend for me the only track in my area shut down. I don’t know anybody else doing this in my area .I drift on my driveway and the the tennis court in my neighborhood .I have a hsp converted to rwd I like this hobby a lot but at the same time it’s like why put so much money if I don’t know anybody to enjoy it with .
@@RoadsideRC I like doing
Wide angles, reversed entries .. go big or go home lol
@@Driftboi825 No reason to spend big $$$ for having fun like you are talking about. The system like I show here is more than enough!
@@RoadsideRC thanks I appreciate the help
How is 2000W not enough power? 20 volts at 120 amps ESC... Isn't that overkill? Im planing to use that for my bycicle in combination with 6384 motor.
This is not running 20V. We are running max 8.4v
Hey Troy.
Would this setup be better than what would be found in RTRs? I just pulled the trigger on the new Redcat RDS RTR and now I'm wondering if this budget combo is better than what I'm getting.
Great channel, just subbed. Keep up the great work
Yes - it is better than a factory setup due to the sensored setup. However, not drastically different. I 100% suggest running the factory setup for awhile before upgrading.
@@RoadsideRChey I just bought the redcat Aswell ,installed gyro v4 ,upgraded horn,upgraded servo,would you recommend this combo to work good still for boost and turbo ?
@@Danielseliteautodetailing Hello - this combo does not provide turbo and boost. The motor is compatible, but the ESC does not offer that.
@@RoadsideRC what esc would you recommend to run for drifting ? I am most likely going xerum d10 to run boost and turbo for motor
@@Danielseliteautodetailing Check these videos out:
ua-cam.com/video/LPVY8W74l5c/v-deo.html
and
ua-cam.com/video/4RcWZr0qmtE/v-deo.html
I have the same set up but mine is the quicrun 10BL 120 with the V3 rocket. My question is can l use the hobbywing OTA programmer with this combo?
Hmm. I honestly haven't tried. Sorry.
Hi just wondering, after buying these, would you also need to go and buy a new transmitter? or can you just use the stock one that comes with the car? Thanks!!
You can still use the stock one - however, I would 100% buy a new transmitter, gyro, and servo before I ever bought the ESC/motor.
Bonjour, what sprocket are you using with this config? and what battery? merci
Battery recommendations: ua-cam.com/video/Y0WOUP5CHL4/v-deo.html
Gearing: there is no "correct" answer. You will change the gearing based on the size of the track.
@@RoadsideRC there is no track here, I live in the French countryside !!! I'm going to the gym, I'm looking for a sprocket that goes everywhere!! it's for leisure, my car will be Sakura D5MR.V2, thank you
Is the fan port on the HOBBYWING Quicrun 10BL60 Sensored ESC same as the other hobby wing esc with the 2 pin
Fan port is 2-wire, yes
What is the difference between spec motors and modified motors?
Spec is more setup for a specific racing series. Usually, timing is not adjustable.
The 10bl120 is 47$ I bet it would be amazing should check it iut😊
Yep - would work just great based on the performance of this one!
Looks vary nice
It is!
does the 10bl60 require any soldering?
Yes it does.
can you do a video with this motor with a bl120?
I would need to get a BL120. Don't have one right now. Doubt there would be a lot of difference. Should be like you see here, with just a little more power...
@@RoadsideRC think the extra amps would make it betting in higher rpm with less timing?
@dawber2111 The RPM is determined by the voltage, not the amperage. The amperage may help it get to max RPM faster, but that is it.
Honestly, so much of drifting is small throttle movements that I doubt it will be a big change.
@@RoadsideRC wasn’t sure if the 60 was just underpowered or not
Hi Troy, loving your channel, can you help, got gt3c transmitter with a hobbywing 10bl60 esc, can't get the throttle to work even tho I've tried to calibrate but not getting the green flashing led to set brake neutral etc, when set button is pressed then powered on only getting solid red light. kind regards Jason
Check to make sure the ESC is plugged into the receiver correctly. It is not seeing a throttle signal.
@@RoadsideRC yer done that in channel 2 with the gyd 470 in channels 1 and 3 when I power on esc fan comes on and a solid red light which goes out after a few seconds, esc does work as when I take out the gyro and replace it with the esc in channel 1 the throttle works but obviously only on the transmitters wheel
Apakah esc sensored ini dapat berfungsi untuk motor sensorless?
Ya, itu bisa!
How important is the sensor in drift? Or is it not that important to drift without a sensor?
The sensor is what allows you to trigger turbo and boost, and also really helps smooth power delivery. When possible, I highly recommend it.
@@RoadsideRC My esc doesn't have turbo or boost. So I don't think the sensor will be missed that much.
Could you use that esc with the mst Rmx 2.0 motor ?
I honestly don't remember if the esc will work in non-sensored mode. I believe it will.
However, there really isn't any advantage to running it like that.
how did you mount your camera on the side of the car?
This makes it a lot easier:
ua-cam.com/video/_h3AsgwRe-g/v-deo.html
Where u from ? And do you have a local drift track?
I am in TN. Our local track is currently Music City RC.
My son has been bashing a cheap hbx16889 and was really curious about drifting.
My local shop has 2 tracks you can rent out 25$/h with their cars but the shop owner doesn't want young kids to try it out..
I have to admit that the drifting community seems pretty elitist to me and not very inclusive for what started as a business for kids no?
Anyways I enjoy your videos and maybe it will be a solution to my budget considerations.. initially saw your recommendation for gyro/ESC/etc and every single piece was the price of a small 1/16 basher it was a bit discouraging.. but that might be a good foot in..
Also since my son can't try or practice at the track.. he'll have to try at home and actually spend some $$
Hi there Louis,
Yes - some tracks are very protective. They have been burned too many times by folks tearing the place up...but unfortunately that puts in a barrier for new folks to learn!
Honestly, the best way to get started with RWD drifting is either the MST or Yokomo RTR cars.
MST: www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=4b85b2b7-558e-4304-89fc-54958c8f47f0&website_id=caf4cba5-8e5f-43be-93b7-934f1a36d50d&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amainhobbies.com%2Fmst-rmx-2.0-1-10-2wd-brushless-rtr-drift-car-w-a90rb-body-red-mxs-533822r%2Fp1403117
Yokomo: www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=4b85b2b7-558e-4304-89fc-54958c8f47f0&website_id=caf4cba5-8e5f-43be-93b7-934f1a36d50d&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amainhobbies.com%2Fyokomo-yd2-1-10-2wd-rtr-drift-car-w-supra-body-white-yokdp-yd2rtrw%2Fp1433931
The MST is better straight out of the box. The Yokomo is better long-term.
If your son really enjoys drifting, then he has a solid platform to put upgrades onto.
If your son does not enjoy drifting, then you will be able to re-sale the car for most of the original purchase price (assuming it is in good shape).
If you have other questions, feel free to ask.
Would I get more wheel speed with this set up then what comes on the yd2 RTR rookie drift?
Yes you would. But, you can get more wheelspeed by just changing the pinion gear as well. Much cheaper.
@@RoadsideRC what one should I get?
Do I need to go smaller or larger. Currently has a 24 on it
@@mattparker510 Bigger pinion = more wheelspeed
It’s so unfair 🤫. You make any motor look good. However here we have to take in your differences you can make out. 🕺🕺💥🙏
Thanks 👍
What would my de my reason for my reverse being much faster than when I drive forward
Either
1) you need to recalibrate the esc to the controller
2) the rotation needs to be reversed in the ESC (assuming you are running sensored).
@@RoadsideRC yes is sensored
@@RoadsideRC also running a futaba t3pv
@@RoadsideRC i figured out the issue. My differential wasn’t in the right spot I had to flip it around
I just bought a sakura D5 and going to put the surpass hobby motor in it but the kit didn't come with a motor pinion gear since the motor is a 10.5T do I have to get a pinion gear with the same ratio?
You will need to match the gear pitch (distance between the teeth) to the spur gear. It is a 32p gear, if I remember correctly.
Something like this: amzn.to/446tBMI
Then, you test the different gear ratios based on the size of the track you are driving on.
@@RoadsideRC awesome thanks for the link but in the listing it has 17T, 18T, 19T, 20T, 21T the surpass hobby says it's a 10.5T
@@rm4213 the gear size and the motor design do not need to match.
@@RoadsideRC ok thanks for the info sorry for the noob questions this is my first rc drift build
@@rm4213 Happy to help. Good luck!
Would you help me!I did the Esc calibration process, but when I accelerate forward it goes backwards and when I accelerate backwards it goes forward! What could it be?
Reverse the throttle channel and then recalibrate.
@@RoadsideRC Yes, I already tried the reverse but it didn't work! besides being inverted, reverse has much more force than accelerating forward! I've tried everything and I can't solve it
@PXCURSOS Are you running sensored? If yes - you need to change the rotation direction in the ESC. If you are NOT running sensored, then swap two motor wires.
@@RoadsideRCI've already tried both ways! I already tried with and without a sensor and the same thing continued! When I change channel two to reverse it becomes normal, I accelerate and it goes forward and I press to go backwards and it goes backwards, but the issue of having more strength in reverse remains! Would it be an option to invert the esc wires that go to the motor in the order A - C, C-A?
Is it 4WD or RWD?
RWD
@@RoadsideRClock the diff right?
@@digeolrc8586 No!! RWD is better with an open diff.
@@RoadsideRC ok thank you for your tips bro
I've ran the 10bl60 for awhile now with the quickrun 10.5 motor on stock settings, looking into bumping up the timing now it has me worried from the directions. Is it safe to bump it up to the same timing as you did without over heating or maybe something else going wrong? I run in the garage and p-tile.
Go for it.
My motors rarely get too hot.
Just try it, and turn it back if it gets too hot.
Can I have them both?
Links to where you can buy them is in the video description!
@@RoadsideRC I was only joking around. Sorry to bother you
No bother at all - thanks for the support!
The answer is all over your face..... 6:58
Yes! The budget oriented motor and esc did just fine!!!
@@RoadsideRC my sakura d5s has sensorless set up... maybe i will buy that set up someday
Can you use the hobbywing bluetooth link to program this esc?
I am not sure, I have never used it. I always just plug in the program card when needed.
Hey Troy i have a d5 belt drive im having motor direction problem how do you reverse a brushless motor
If youbare running sensored - you must do it in the ESC programming.
If you are doing it unsensored, then swap any two wires on the motor