Volume vs Loudness - LUFS & LKFS for Measuring Loudness for Video

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024

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  • @curtisjudd
    @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +8

    You can see part II on how to loudness normalize here: ua-cam.com/video/lHNhxGojFRU/v-deo.html

    • @reirei9526
      @reirei9526 3 роки тому

      i want to ask.. i record my video on smartphone and i have my record voice in -3 db but the volume on record is on 50-60% and i try to put music to see the bar its on -3 db but the volume its on 80 - 90%... so did i must gain up the volume my mic right? i confuse in here

  • @pingpongowo
    @pingpongowo 3 роки тому +34

    Nothing's louder than my creaky floors at 3AM

    • @SoundSpeeds
      @SoundSpeeds 3 роки тому +2

      Run them thru an expander.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +10

      Perhaps you could use that as your target.

  • @sky.london
    @sky.london 3 роки тому

    This is the best video ever. Especially the online advice, really been a bit lost as to why -16/-17. Thanks

  • @studiotwentyone
    @studiotwentyone 2 роки тому

    Excellent video.. Simple explanation, no giff gaff.. Thank you!

  • @MeridianMedia
    @MeridianMedia 3 роки тому +1

    As always, this was informative and pleasant to watch. Thanks Curtis!

  • @AjushiPhotography
    @AjushiPhotography 3 роки тому

    Great Job as Always! Definitely agree, I always try to normalize my UA-cam uploads to -16 LUFS 👍🏻

  • @CraigHollabaugh
    @CraigHollabaugh 3 роки тому +1

    Chris, in that upcoming segment, you're gonna need to address amps that go 11 in terms of LUFS. Thanks for the valuable info.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +2

      Ah, yes, that'll be in the volume segment. 😉

    • @insanejughead
      @insanejughead 3 роки тому

      I expect Curtis to be chewing gum as he tells us they go to eleven, too.
      Maybe even wearing a mullet wig...

  • @cire30a
    @cire30a 3 роки тому

    What a cliff hanger!! ill leave this window open so i dont miss it. thank you for these

  • @insanejughead
    @insanejughead 3 роки тому

    Curtis, if I had wanted a mouthful of something, I'd go get a Hardee's #3 double burger...
    Good stuff, sir! This is one of the many things that plague newbs on the processing side of things, myself included. Thanks again!

    • @insanejughead
      @insanejughead 3 роки тому

      Also, that thumbnail is such a sweet looking piece of work! I particularly love the dichotomy of the colors behind the dial.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Hahaha! Now you made me hungry for a burger!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Kacper, my thumbnail guy, does brilliant work.

  • @onocoffee
    @onocoffee 3 роки тому

    I didn't know about this. Just checked my last video and YT has it -9db, so that means I'm around -23? Ready for Netflix!!!

  • @GarethWalkerPhotographer
    @GarethWalkerPhotographer 3 роки тому

    Brilliant explanation and can’t wait for the next instalment. Have learnt so much about great audio from your channel.

  • @hireality
    @hireality 3 роки тому

    Excellent presentation on an important topic👍

  • @JacksonParodi
    @JacksonParodi 3 роки тому

    Great information, thanks. Looking forward to more

  • @dlapierre99
    @dlapierre99 3 роки тому

    This is gold, looking forward for the next video. Thanks a ton for that.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Thanks dlapierre99.

    • @dlapierre99
      @dlapierre99 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd I found the Loudness meters in my NLE. They are in LUFS, great. But there are 4 measurements: Momentary, Short, Integrated and Range. I guess that the numbers you gave for YT or Spotify is the integrated. But what about the Momentary and Short, what are good values for those?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      @@dlapierre99 Yes, integrated is the measurement of the entire video but you have to play though the entire piece to get the final integrated measurement. The others are for analyzing and solving issues at particular spots within the piece, e.g., maybe I need to compress or level out this little bit here...

    • @dlapierre99
      @dlapierre99 3 роки тому +1

      @@curtisjudd Thank you so much! I have an option to generate a loudness log during render so I can get the integrated value quite fast if I render only the audio. And I am able to graph each 4 metrics over time in Excel. Thanks a lot again, now I am able to understand what I am doing.

  • @asidtone6465
    @asidtone6465 3 роки тому

    the audio is on another planet

    • @insanejughead
      @insanejughead 3 роки тому +1

      Wait, so if a tree falls on Mars, does it make a sound?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Thanks!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      It absolutely does - the rover hears it.

  • @ElliotMurphy
    @ElliotMurphy 3 роки тому

    Great explanation, thank you!

  • @GestaYuria
    @GestaYuria 3 роки тому

    3:39 “It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
    ― Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Short Stories of Sherlock Holmes
    As a Sherlockian, I got distracted by the quote! Hahaha...

  • @MarshallCant
    @MarshallCant 3 роки тому

    Excellent, as always.

  • @Overxpossed
    @Overxpossed Рік тому

    Great video; thank you very much!

  • @shakedakrish1
    @shakedakrish1 3 роки тому

    This video is great! Thanks Curtis! Typically when I edit a short video that has loads of different sound pieces, I edit each one separately and do a loudness normalize to it. I'm not sure if it is the correct way or I should export the sound as a whole and then make the loudness normalize to it. Will you be touching it on the next video? Thanks again!!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Yes. Here's the short version: Do your mix first. Then loudness normalize the entire mix as the very last step.

    • @shakedakrish1
      @shakedakrish1 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Thank you! I will do it from now on :)

  • @leapnlarry
    @leapnlarry 3 роки тому

    Hey Curtis, here is a problem I want to solve with audio. My wife and I do UA-cam videos about RV life, We both use lav mics which go into our zoom h1 split into left and right Channels. I do this so I can control our audio separately, I end up having to cut out my Audio when she talks and vice versa. (There is an echo sound of picking up each other’s mic.). This takes a long time. Is there a way to do this automatically in premiere pro? Thanks Larry

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Hi Larry, I'm not aware of an automatic way to do this in Premiere (but I haven't used Premiere in several years so perhaps they've added an auto mix feature?)

  • @alexgrafe
    @alexgrafe 3 роки тому

    Much appreciated!

  • @JensChrStrandos
    @JensChrStrandos 3 роки тому

    This was a great video!

  • @smallbizdigitalmedia
    @smallbizdigitalmedia 3 роки тому +1

    Assuming this does not affect the recommended recording gain levels of -12db on average?

  • @RichardBuckMovies
    @RichardBuckMovies 3 роки тому

    Thanks Curtis, but you mentioned something which doesn't immediately seem related to the topic here - you mention that vocals are *compressed* when normalized to the recommended loudness. It's not clear to me why amplification results in compression? Where does the compression come in?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Richard, that will become clearer in the next video on this topic. Usually one will need to do some dynamics control (compression) to achieve a target which is louder than -23 LUFS for spoken word content. Compression is almost always part of that process or some of the audio transients (short peaks) will be heavily limited.

    • @RichardBuckMovies
      @RichardBuckMovies 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd I look forward to the next one! 😁

  • @djinfect672
    @djinfect672 3 роки тому

    almost there, hurry up make part 2 lol

  • @AustralianImage
    @AustralianImage 3 роки тому

    Yelp! Going back some time now, on one of your videos you recommended -23 LUFS (LKFS in Resolve) as the level to normalise your audio. I've been doing this for some time now to provide a consistent audio level to all of my videos. Should I now change that to -16?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      It depends on where you publish or broadcast. For broadcast TV, they have specific requirements. In the EU, that is -23 LUFS. For the US, -24 LKFS. For online, I generally recommend -16 to -17 LUFS.

    • @AustralianImage
      @AustralianImage 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Thanks. For me it's just online, so it looks like I'm going to have to amend my processes.

  • @davidanderson8381
    @davidanderson8381 3 роки тому

    Thanks you for mentioning math, but not digging in.. :)

  • @gilbertorodriguez7612
    @gilbertorodriguez7612 3 роки тому

    Don't be a victim of the loudness war!

  • @EpicLightMedia
    @EpicLightMedia 3 роки тому +36

    I really needed this information!!! I’ve been looking for this for years!!! Thanks for being so smart!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for coming by and thanks for teaching us all how to do lighting design!

    • @BreezeA
      @BreezeA 3 роки тому

      Same here, been searching for this simplified yet spot on tutorial

    • @gibblsworthiscool
      @gibblsworthiscool 3 роки тому +4

      @epiclightmedia is that one channel that I had to unsubscribe from due to their excessive amount of helpful high-quality videos that helped me get better ;)

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +4

      @@gibblsworthiscool All that value is hard to digest... 🙃

  • @vinyleyezz
    @vinyleyezz 3 роки тому +18

    I LOVE learning more about hifi audio techniques/voice over, THANK YOU for all this great info Curtis!

  • @alex_montoya
    @alex_montoya 3 роки тому +3

    Can't wait on the second video on lufs.

  • @SufiGuidanceChannel
    @SufiGuidanceChannel 3 роки тому +1

    Awsome info

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Sufi.

    • @SufiGuidanceChannel
      @SufiGuidanceChannel 3 роки тому +1

      What I do is take live calls on live stream and have six dedicated wattsapp lines..
      The audio technic used I have learnt through this your channel which I appreciate and THANXX u loads.. 👍

  • @theBejourn
    @theBejourn 3 роки тому +7

    Fantastic video. I found your channel while looking for a microphone and you've been dedicatedly putting out seriously high quality content for what looks like more than a decade! Props!

  • @SoundSpeeds
    @SoundSpeeds 3 роки тому +6

    I'd like to point out that television shows on TV have different technical requirements for audio than the commercials to. That allows TV commercials to be louder than program material.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +2

      More info, please? What are the targets for advertisements vs program? Thanks!

    • @SoundSpeeds
      @SoundSpeeds 3 роки тому +11

      @@curtisjudd I'll clarify. Television shows and movies are produced for release on their platforms. Movies may be adjusted before airing to adhere to LUFS/LKFS guidelines too but TV stations often compress any program content. They also visually process shows too which is why TV is a terrible place to watch a movie or TV show. These are done within guidelines (which are minimum specs) to make it a better experience on TV.
      Movies and TV shows are produced to look and sound a certain way and if it were possible to air without changing anything, it would be ideal for those of us that worked on it but there are broadcast and cable cast regulations that must be followed. I worked on a show that aired on USA and me and the sound mixer heard all kinds of distortion and compression when the show aired because that's what the station does to all program content. My mixer recorded the show and sent it to post and asked them about some of the things he was hearing. They responded back that their master didn't sound like that and this was common in TV. If we bought the DVD of the show, it would sound better. He was right.
      It's been over 2 decades since I worked at a TV station and that was pre-HD but I'm sure stations still have safety measures to make sure audio doesn't go out too loud or that dark scenes don't go too dark.
      Commercials, on the other hand, want to be noticed and may do tricks to get attention. Extreme compression is one truck they'll use so that if you're watching a late night show and doze, you'll wake up and watch. Another trick they'll use it playing the A-weighting curve - boosting the crap out of mid and higher frequencies because you hear them better. Really annoying infomercials may even apply aggressive low and high pass filters so that there's more headroom for an annoying presence boost (for example). Commercials don't have to be cinematic masterpieces, their goal is to sell a product so if that means using tricks to sound louder and be noticed, they will. Commercials aren't immune to processing but aren't afraid of playing games.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +2

      @@SoundSpeeds Thanks Allen.

    • @insanejughead
      @insanejughead 3 роки тому +2

      @@SoundSpeeds No need to be brief here, sir. Tell me more...
      Hahaha, thanks for the wealth of input. Your information coupled with what Curtis conveyed tells me that by sustaining certain loudness levels with very few quiet moments, infomercials and such can be perceived to be louder but still fly below the standards that mainly account for dynamic range differences. Am I understanding you both correctly?

    • @SoundSpeeds
      @SoundSpeeds 3 роки тому +2

      @@insanejughead I think I understand that and I think that's right. Curtis said sustained loudness over time is perceived louder than audio with more dynamics and that's 100% right. What I added is that sometimes commercials and infomercials will use tricks to maintain loudness for the entire time and/or boost frequencies humans have a more difficult time ignoring while cutting those we may tune out.

  • @andymation
    @andymation 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this!

  • @AudioforContentCreators
    @AudioforContentCreators 3 роки тому +4

    This makes me feel like I'm back in audio school. Loved it. Super clear explanation and really useful. Thanks, Curtis! ~Brian

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks Brian! Means a lot coming from you!

  • @jherr
    @jherr 3 роки тому

    Your content is amazing. Thank you so much for this. I've been struggling with audio, particularly when it comes to loudness for a while. Part of that is me, and the fact that I feel the need to news commentator "shout" on camera. But there is also the technical factor of where I should be in terms of audio signals. And this helps with that tremendously. Can't wait for the next video where we learn about tooling.

  • @globofonia
    @globofonia 3 роки тому +1

    Always learn something new with You. Thanks

  • @AskJoe
    @AskJoe 3 роки тому +1

    This has always been one of the most confusing things about video production. When I made my first TV commercial, they kept rejecting the video for two reasons... the loudness and the luminance / whiteness levels. The same side of two different coins. I wish I saw this before all that trial and error. I would love to have a button in Final Cut Pro that lets me just click a dropdown to use the correct levels for various platforms.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +2

      Sadly, I don't think we'll see that in FCPX. It doesn't have the concept of a master audio bus which is where the final loudness normalization would need to take place - unless they make some BIG changes to FCPX.

    • @AskJoe
      @AskJoe 3 роки тому +1

      @@curtisjudd Without industry standards in FXPX the best we can do is use their generic Loudness Amount and Uniformity percentages which I set at 40 and 17 respectively for UA-cam. My newer flow is 32 bit float using Zoom F6 and MixPre 6 II, so I've been doing normalization in Reaper first.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +2

      @@AskJoe Yes, makes sense. I do my normalization in Audition or Izotope RX.

  • @sendittoherlihy
    @sendittoherlihy 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Curtis, happy new year to you! Great video as always! Would you be able to recommend a sweet spot when working with something like very dynamic live orchestral for UA-cam? Thanks

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      I'd recommend trying different targets to see how they each sound and choose from there. Best if you can get it to -16 LUFS and be satisfied that it doesn't sound too compressed.

    • @sendittoherlihy
      @sendittoherlihy 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd cheers Curtis!

  • @VladislavDoroshuk
    @VladislavDoroshuk 3 роки тому +5

    Curtis, that's amazing, I've just sent a question about LUFS on UA-cam in your online course, and you came with this video:) anyway, the question is - what is the right LUFS level for the UA-cam videos in 2021, for mono and stereo?
    Updated: I've reached the end of your video and finally have the answer, thank you! Funny fact from Russia: the "statistics for nerds" was translated by UA-cam as "statistics for system administrators ", so we're lacking some humor there🙃

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      For popular music, -14 LUFS for stereo, -17 LUFS for mono. My opinion: For spoken word content, I'd aim for -16 LUFS stereo or -19 LUFS mono.

    • @Ditispeter
      @Ditispeter 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd And what do you recommend for videos with a mix of spoken word, music and sound design? I think you have to crush the dynamics too much to keep it on -14 LUFS without distortion.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      @@Ditispeter -16 LUFS stereo unless the piece will air on broadcast TV.

    • @Ditispeter
      @Ditispeter 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Thanks! I will try that.

    • @gabbo13
      @gabbo13 2 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd I always use the --16/-17 LUFS for my UA-cam videos, however I have to practice more in the audio part when I edit and mixing.

  • @alex_foster
    @alex_foster 3 роки тому +1

    Very informative. Thank you.

  • @KamilsView
    @KamilsView 3 роки тому

    You were reading my mind - I was recently wondering about those LUFS and experimenting to get a good level. So, I just changed your 444 likes into 445 ;-)

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 3 роки тому

    Glad to hear the remark at the end, it sounds like you're going to cover the question I was about to ask. I use FCPX with access to LogicProX, and want to know how to estimate my LUFS before I upload the video, ha ha. I always seem to undershoot, compared to professional style videos that somehow get it nearly perfect on stats for nerds.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      I won't be able to cover FCPX in particular, but will show my process.

  • @AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel
    @AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video, thanks :) Just bought your "Dialogue Sound Post Processing with Adobe Audition" course, do you plan to record a course for Isotope tools? Looks like you're using Resolve instead of Audition for most of the mastering.

    • @AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel
      @AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel 3 роки тому

      Oh, it's already there :) Thanks once more!

    • @AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel
      @AlexanderLebedev_sortafreel 3 роки тому

      Still, I wough HIGHLY recommend adding this information to the course promo/landing page/description. So it's clear for potential buyers that the course is even bigger/better/etc. It would affect sales in a good way for sure.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Oleksandr. Yes, I do hope to make an Izotope RX course.

  • @BeauHannamGuitars
    @BeauHannamGuitars 2 роки тому

    Very interesting Curtis. Thanks- And the Stats for Nerds is cool- I had never heard of this before!

  • @ahmadfauzanperdana5703
    @ahmadfauzanperdana5703 3 роки тому +4

    You teach me more than my lecturer did. Thank you for sharing this! Can't wait to wait to watch the next episode.

  • @dannypgrizzle
    @dannypgrizzle 3 роки тому +1

    Hitting audio standards in Final Cut is frustrating. Or else I need to learn the tools better. In any case, I appreciate it if you would address workflows outside your own Adobe ecosystem.

    • @jasonrlombard
      @jasonrlombard 3 роки тому +1

      I totally agree. I finally got frustrated enough with FCP and bought a copy of Izotope RX8 (though there are many other capable tools as well) to normalize all audio before importing audio separate from video. RX8 has output presets for broadcast, streaming, podcast, and more. Adding this step takes a little longer at first, but knowing that my audio levels are correct for output has reduced my level of anxiety with the finished product. No affiliation with the company, just a satisfied user.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Danny, I use FCPX as well. But I don't do the audio processing there for the very reason you cite - it isn't good at that, especially when it comes to hitting a loudness target/standard. I do most of my loudness processing in Izotope because it is fast.

    • @dannypgrizzle
      @dannypgrizzle 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd I’m eager to watch your technique. I’m an iZotope user also

  • @PaulSyng
    @PaulSyng 3 роки тому

    This is was very interesting. The lighting and sound always on point.

  • @paulbvid
    @paulbvid 3 роки тому +2

    This is great! I’ve always struggled with This. U r awesome

  • @jasonrlombard
    @jasonrlombard 3 роки тому +4

    I've only been following you for about a year, Curtis, but I've learned so much in that year. Thank you not only for providing your insights and knowledge but also for giving those insights "handles" and showing us how to use them.

  • @RobbyHuang
    @RobbyHuang 3 роки тому

    So helpful, thank you! Finally know what lufs is haha

  • @AnthonyGoodley
    @AnthonyGoodley 3 роки тому

    So my question would be in Streamlabs what should be my dB target at any given time that would most closely correlate to - 14 LUFS, - 16 LUFS and lastly - 17 LUFS over time? I get that they aren't quite the same thing but I believe there should be a target dB level that if maintained most of the time that should correlate to a given LUFS, right?
    During my live streams I have game audio from a game like Call of Duty Cold War, music from Epidemic at 320 kbps and my voice from me speaking into a SM7B all mixed together in real time via my GoXLR mixer. So there usually is a pretty constant stream of audio sounds as one of the above is almost always playing, usually several or all even at once.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately, as we demonstrated, dB RMS doesn't always work out. That's the closest alternative of which I am aware.

  • @thomasfransson
    @thomasfransson Рік тому

    Is there a way to do Loudness Normalization in Premiere itself instead of taking the route through Wavelab/Audition?
    I end up using so many different softwares for my videos so I'm trying not to add more steps ;)

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  Рік тому

      Yes, when you export, go to the effects area and choose loudness normalization.

  • @Commandelicious
    @Commandelicious 3 роки тому

    I have been doing youtube stuff for nearly eight years, I am better with my audio than most, because it's the first thing to bug me (and many, many others) in a video. But this was very helpfull, thank you!

  • @TechforToastmasters
    @TechforToastmasters 3 роки тому +2

    Just learned there is a right click to get 'Stats for Nerds'!.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      But only click on that if you actually are an audio nerd! 😀

    • @TechforToastmasters
      @TechforToastmasters 3 роки тому +1

      @@curtisjudd Well, I have only you to blame for that. Last few months, you have made me deep dive into audio and get familiar with tools and technology I did not know existed.

    • @insanejughead
      @insanejughead 3 роки тому +1

      @@TechforToastmasters Welcome to the nerd club, nerd. 😎😁
      Now you're stuck in this rabbit hole with myself and the rest of us. We're a friendly lot, though...

    • @TechforToastmasters
      @TechforToastmasters 3 роки тому

      @@insanejughead Indeed. When I first started, I thought buying the best microphone would solve all my problems so I went and bought a SM7b. That could not be further from the truth. Now my room is fitted with thick carpet, lots of soft furniture to dampen the sound, and paying close attention to levels, clipping, compression, equalizer, etc.

    • @insanejughead
      @insanejughead 3 роки тому +1

      @@TechforToastmasters I don't have the SM7b, but I do have two Unidyne III 545's. The information I have found implies that the capsules are the same between the classic 545, SM57, and SM7b, except that the housing and transformer is different to create a subtly different sound for each.
      Actually, isn't the SM7b transformer-less? Otherwise it wouldn't need so much external preamp gain, right?

  • @SalsaBailaProductions
    @SalsaBailaProductions 3 роки тому

    I always learn with your vids tx

  • @OrlanDave
    @OrlanDave 3 роки тому

    I just checked my most recent upload, and my loudness is only -0.4db, not bad!

  • @NoloCuban
    @NoloCuban 3 роки тому +1

    Curtis, Thank You again for sharing so much knowledge, we really appreciate it! Happy New Year to you and your family from Spain!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Thanks and same to you and yours!

  • @EdoDijkgraaf
    @EdoDijkgraaf 3 роки тому +1

    This is why I subscribed many years ago mr Judd. An inspiring video. Cheers!

  • @david243121
    @david243121 2 роки тому +1

    Curtis, you are the MAN. Do you have any idea how much I've learned from you, and how much those lessons have had real life changes in my workflow and understanding what is going on, so I can make better choices? Thank you a million times over.

  • @ToddSinclair
    @ToddSinclair 3 роки тому

    The recommendation is -16 LUFS for YouYube with primarily voice. Got it. What happened to -23or -24 LUFS? Only for broadcast? BTW, saw the normalizing video. fantastic. Thanks!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      -23 LUFS is the EBU target for broadcast television. -24 LKFS is the ITU target and is required for broadcast TV in the US. The internet is the Wild West with no requirements. My recommendation is -16 LUFS for online content.

  • @henrikolsen5
    @henrikolsen5 9 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for all your content and excellent delivery and production quality. Straight to the point (no BS) and textual summaries to start with, which I'm particularly fond of.

  • @kengoodwin459
    @kengoodwin459 3 роки тому

    I've been aiming for -18 LUFS but have recently been happy with my mixes at -20. Have you read the AES paper on recommendations for unifying streaming loudness standards? Its named "Technical Document AES TD1004.1.15-10 “Recommendation for Loudness of Audio Streaming and Network File Playback”

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Hi Ken. Yes, good advice from my point of view. The AES recommendations are, in a nutshell:
      It is recommended that the Target Loudness of the stream not exceed -16 LUFS: to avoid excessive peak limiting, and allow a higher dynamic range in a program stream.1
      It is recommended that the Target Loudness of a stream not be lower than -20 LUFS: to improve the audibility of streams on mobile devices.
      It is recommended that short-form programming (60 seconds or less) be adjusted by constraining the Maximum Short-term Loudness to be no more than 5 LU higher than the Target Loudness: This ensures that commercials and similar short-form content are consistent with the stream loudness.
      It is recommended that the maximum peak level not exceed −1.0 dB TP: to prevent clipping when using lossy encoders.

  • @PresentDayProduction
    @PresentDayProduction 3 роки тому

    This is awesome, thank you

  • @yoshiu5167
    @yoshiu5167 3 роки тому

    Great video. Happy New Year. Looking forward for the next video you mentioned how we practically achieve LUFS for UA-cam!

  • @alecmuellervisuals61
    @alecmuellervisuals61 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this video! Looking forward to part 2. I’ve been unsure of what audio levels to shoot for in premiere for years

  • @seamussmyth2312
    @seamussmyth2312 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @dfandrews
    @dfandrews 2 роки тому

    Hey Curtis thanks for this. Been a real issue for me. I went back and randomly sampled several of your recent videos and found that most of them were normalized to about -9db (although this one is -2.6). My question is do you have a specific goal for what level you want to achieve for all your videos? Does it change according to subject?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  2 роки тому

      Thanks Dennis. First, note that UA-cam’s numbers are relative to their chosen target of -14 LUFS. So my videos are generally targeted at -17 or -23 LUFS depending on whether I’m reviewing a microphone or recorder (-23 LUFS) or covering something else (-17 LUFS). The reason I target -23 for mic and recorder reviews is I want viewers to hear how they sound without any processing, especially compression, and that is generally possible at -23 LUFS. Once you push the loudness to -16 or -17 LUFS, compression is generally required. Hope that makes sense.

  • @martinjohannesK
    @martinjohannesK Рік тому

    Thank you Curtis for yours recommendation to go with -16 in general. I will define this as Target for our company social media with podcasts and Videos.!

  • @MikeLisii
    @MikeLisii 3 роки тому

    Thank you Curtis!! Everything you say makes a lot of sense to me but now I have a quesiton. Why does spotify crank everything to -14? Because its a different thing when you listen to music or educational podcast shouldnt they have something like a vaiable loudness for different categories? Whats your opinion? Thank you!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Remember that Spotify started as a music streaming service. They did what I think is a wise thing to help manage the loudness wars which have been plaguing the popular music world for a few decades now: Set a reasonable loudness standard of -14 LUFS. That's great for popular music. But in my opinion, it is not as great for material which consists mainly of spoken word content. Spoken word audio tends to sound a little too compressed at -14 LUFS in my opinion. I believe that -16 LUFS is a better middle ground - loud enough for playback on consumer grade equipment in poor listening conditions, but not so loud that there's no dynamic range left. I wish they would use different standards for different categories. I think an argument could be made for orchestral/classical music. That isn't going to sound great at -14 LUFS.

  • @beachroadfilms
    @beachroadfilms 3 роки тому

    I hope you show how YOU achieve Television Loudness EU -23 LUFS, USA-24 LKFS with the tools you own.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      That is exactly what I'll do.

  • @keensoundguy6637
    @keensoundguy6637 3 роки тому

    In the home audio world, some of us remember when "loudness" referred to a special EQ control based on the long historied Fletcher-Munson curves that describe human hearing as it relates to the perception of loudness. The usual take-away for mixing engineers was to mix a track so it sounds its best when played back at high volume. Hence the phrase, "crank it up, dude", right?
    Thanks for the link to the ITU document. Great discussion in it about true peak vs peak-sample metering -- certainly worth being aware of.

  • @Debtfreehomesteaders
    @Debtfreehomesteaders 3 роки тому +1

    He hits me with a tongue twister @4:01 then leaves me with a cliff hanger! Thank goodness I'm subscribed! Awesome Lesson! Well done!
    -Will

  • @oriffel
    @oriffel 3 роки тому +1

    neat

  • @MyTerryw
    @MyTerryw 3 роки тому

    Thanks for info, I had aimed at -12 for sometime for internet radio believing tidal/spotify were at that range looks like changed around 2017. Although looks like I am the only one submitting to station with any consistent level as other shows a bit louder or up and down. Nice to try and pretend I'm doing it roughly correct. 😂

  • @ZachBoyce
    @ZachBoyce 3 роки тому

    Interesting takeaways. I've always wondered if youtube has any standards because when I'm watching on my smart TV I have generally found the loudness of various videos compared to each other is all over the place, forcing me to ride my volume knob every new video.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Yes, turns out that they only enforce the upper loudness limit (-14 LUFS), and not anything that falls below that.

  • @rogberube6422
    @rogberube6422 3 роки тому

    That's clear, Curtis. Thanks for sharing. Happy New Year. :)

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Thanks Rog Berube! Happy new year to you!

  • @MusicalKinetics
    @MusicalKinetics 3 роки тому

    I had no idea that the stats for nerds existed at all. Don't forget to smash the like button on this video.

  • @MikeG-js1jt
    @MikeG-js1jt 3 роки тому

    Audible.com insists that there audiobook files be delivered between -18 and minus 23 RMS seems like a pretty wide allowable range, they only use RMS not the lufs I guess it's something they've been doing a long time and haven't really seen a reason to change although the audio pauses ie blank spaces audio books are typically much shorter or should I say more regular been something like the audio on TV so maybe that makes it more accurate closer to what lufs might appear to be?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      I think they just haven't updated their specs. -18 to -23 dB RMS is a potentially huge range.

  • @neilhaldar
    @neilhaldar 8 місяців тому

    You’re the man! Best way to learn audio from the master. Thank you, Curtis 😊

  • @hisnameisrentoo
    @hisnameisrentoo 3 роки тому +1

    Great info! Can't wait for the next one on the topic. Ironically, I watched the video on mute with subtitles on, as my wife is busy working on something on the desk beside mine.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +2

      Hahaha! Good not to disturb the wife!

  • @tvstafford1989
    @tvstafford1989 3 роки тому +1

    This was SUPER helpful. Thanks to you and your team!

  • @hqiu1976
    @hqiu1976 2 місяці тому

    Extremely helpful, Thank you so much!

  • @l.s.11
    @l.s.11 2 роки тому

    Embarrassed to say how long this has been in my Watch later playlist.... Glad I finally watched it tho. :)

  • @danielpicard3994
    @danielpicard3994 3 роки тому

    Great and precise explanation of a concept that is often misunderstood. Your last comment in regards to uploading spoken content on UA-cam at a more conservative level is a very wise practice. Thank you.

  • @highlytarnished
    @highlytarnished 2 роки тому

    well explained, thank you sir

  • @jjang9445
    @jjang9445 3 роки тому

    Will definitely need to work on this on my future videos! Thanks Curtis!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      You're welcome and best wishes!

  • @jann.s3442
    @jann.s3442 3 роки тому

    Thank so mutch, I love this Video. I think every pro video creater should use this method.

  • @Flyinghelicpterfart
    @Flyinghelicpterfart 3 роки тому

    Awesome useful info thanks. Was wondering difference btw the two

  • @CloveCoast
    @CloveCoast 3 роки тому

    More people should switch to Tidal, their compression is the most minimal, they have a ton of high def music.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Thanks for that. Do you know what they target in terms of loudness?

  • @joelluth6384
    @joelluth6384 3 роки тому

    Stats for nerds on this vid: -2.6dB. Is it too late to write-in Curtis Judd for president?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Hahaha! -16.6. Pretty good!

  • @etchd_
    @etchd_ 3 роки тому

    Why couldn't you be my teacher at school?

  • @monkeywildlife7607
    @monkeywildlife7607 3 роки тому

    awesome vids

  • @billsmith5166
    @billsmith5166 3 роки тому +1

    Well that starts to make sense. In some of your videos you talk about something being set for European LUFS. I thought it was short for Luftballons, but I figured it should have been set for 99. No wonder all of my stuff has been so darned loud.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Hahaha! Definitely do NOT aim for a target of 99 LUFS.

  • @philpritchard5173
    @philpritchard5173 3 роки тому

    V nice. Tbx. Looking forward to the follow up.

  • @malekwahb4635
    @malekwahb4635 Рік тому

    How can we measure the loudness and the volume of a musical instrument.. thanks

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  Рік тому

      Same as covered here - need a loudness meter. A free option is the Youlean loudness meter.

  • @DannerPlace
    @DannerPlace 2 роки тому

    This is a very excellent video. Thank you for posting it.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  2 роки тому

      You’re most welcome, Dan.

  • @Yoda8945
    @Yoda8945 3 роки тому

    Thank you! This will help so much with the levels that I have to deal with with customer's videos.