It's great to see these video's online. We at Pendo work with an social exchange platform, that allows you to pay for what you need, with what you have without using money. These complementary systems would be a great addition for our economy.
@venefikuz I have read most of the books put forth by Fresco as well as Joseph, including the documentaries featuring the Resource-Based Economy. I have a strong understanding of what the RBE is and how it would operate. My only problem with it is that it is so foreign to the traditional economic train of thought that it will be difficult for society at large to implement it. I see Lietear's suggestions as a valid way to attain the goal of "sustainable abundance" in the interim.
@SocialTradeOrg Wonderful and predictably 'right on the money'. Bernard Lietaer is exactly right - we need more diversity and interconnectivity in our financial system - the monopoly on money is killing us over and over again. We are looking at this issue from another angle with Emission Reduction Currency Systems wherein we back local currency with greenhouse gas reductions as a globally recognised shared economic interest. Would like link with C3 as means to extend credit to consumers.
@rosplinter Have you read Lietaer's The Future of Money? Im currently reading it now, I think you would love this book because he covers complementary currencies extensively. I'm working on the segment of the book where he goes over a global reference currency that could be used by those who wish to use it with a sustainability fee(i.e. demurrage charge). Good stuff.
Bonjour, pour les possesseurs de baladeurs, plusieurs bandes son de conférences / interviews de Bernard Lietaer sont disponibles en libre accès sur plusconscient point net, section Solutions pour l'avenir ! D'autres enregistrements à riche contenu informationnel sont proposés au même endroit ainsi que dans les autres sections du site.
Tx for the response eventhough it's a bit late. And yes I know about the Venus Project and Zeitgeist. I agree with their vision, it's the way to go for the future. I have learned that almost all problems in the world and life are because of money and profit. All money is blood money. You can't build a good ethic society on a bad idea. Bank controled currency is such a bad idea.
Love the lecture. but how do we solve this problem?: Easter island's End by Jared Diamond, In my mind it does not matter which growing economy they had there, local currencies or not. the problems was lacking resources for a growing population.... Just like we have. Don't we?
It seems to me that the one who ends up with this complementary currency just would lose the interest from the "normal" money he could have gotten, so no one would want to take this unless he can pay for something with it (fast). Or am I missing something?
Although I see that this could be a partial solution. The current problem is bigger. THE problem is corruption and the class regeluation between the rich and the poor. Having money makes money interest. Having no money you need to borrow and pay the bank. If we ever want a good system we need to A) Design a system that is almost uncorruptable, maybe direct democracy. And make the laws equal for everyone, certainly when money is involved. But ofcourse that is if we still want to use money.
I think it was just a comprehension: -opensoursce Software is free downloadable -> you don't have to wait for anyone who starts spreading it around -complementary cuurencys work just the samme -> you don't have to wait for anyone who starts spreading it around
Lietaer promotes the idea of Commercial Credit Circuits (C3) which basically boils down to a Trade Exchange... similar to "Barter Card" etc. ~ A privately run local monetary system operating within a national monetary system using barter dollars or brownie points to record who owes who what. The downfall of such a system is that it undermines government regulatory control.
yes and this is exactly his point: credit notes show that complementary currenceies work and C3 would be kind of a further development of those credit notes
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Cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin which is both efficient and resilient will be a good catalyst for these ideas as an alternate to the bank / government controlled unsustainable status quo.
Anyone with half a brain can conclude that the current economy is engineered to fail rather than fails due to extraneous variables. No amount of revising will fix it. I will always fail.
It's great to see these video's online. We at Pendo work with an social exchange platform, that allows you to pay for what you need, with what you have without using money. These complementary systems would be a great addition for our economy.
@venefikuz I have read most of the books put forth by Fresco as well as Joseph, including the documentaries featuring the Resource-Based Economy. I have a strong understanding of what the RBE is and how it would operate. My only problem with it is that it is so foreign to the traditional economic train of thought that it will be difficult for society at large to implement it. I see Lietear's suggestions as a valid way to attain the goal of "sustainable abundance" in the interim.
@SocialTradeOrg Wonderful and predictably 'right on the money'. Bernard Lietaer is exactly right - we need more diversity and interconnectivity in our financial system - the monopoly on money is killing us over and over again. We are looking at this issue from another angle with Emission Reduction Currency Systems wherein we back local currency with greenhouse gas reductions as a globally recognised shared economic interest. Would like link with C3 as means to extend credit to consumers.
@rosplinter Have you read Lietaer's The Future of Money? Im currently reading it now, I think you would love this book because he covers complementary currencies extensively. I'm working on the segment of the book where he goes over a global reference currency that could be used by those who wish to use it with a sustainability fee(i.e. demurrage charge). Good stuff.
Bonjour, pour les possesseurs de baladeurs, plusieurs bandes son de conférences / interviews de Bernard Lietaer sont disponibles en libre accès sur plusconscient point net, section Solutions pour l'avenir ! D'autres enregistrements à riche contenu informationnel sont proposés au même endroit ainsi que dans les autres sections du site.
Merci!
Very interesting, thank you!
youtube is not letting me post links
for a written explanation, google:
Commercial Credit Circuit (C3) World Academy
The war did not get us out of the depression. Broken window..... He started with a lie. How good is the rest of the potential lies?
Tx for the response eventhough it's a bit late.
And yes I know about the Venus Project and Zeitgeist. I agree with their vision, it's the way to go for the future. I have learned that almost all problems in the world and life are because of money and profit. All money is blood money. You can't build a good ethic society on a bad idea. Bank controled currency is such a bad idea.
Love the lecture. but how do we solve this problem?: Easter island's End by Jared Diamond, In my mind it does not matter which growing economy they had there, local currencies or not. the problems was lacking resources for a growing population.... Just like we have. Don't we?
I know you wrote this comment months ago but have you heard of The Venus Project?? I suggest googling it. Its pretty sensible and easy to understand.
It seems to me that the one who ends up with this complementary currency just would lose the interest from the "normal" money he could have gotten, so no one would want to take this unless he can pay for something with it (fast).
Or am I missing something?
Although I see that this could be a partial solution. The current problem is bigger. THE problem is corruption and the class regeluation between the rich and the poor. Having money makes money interest. Having no money you need to borrow and pay the bank.
If we ever want a good system we need to A) Design a system that is almost uncorruptable, maybe direct democracy. And make the laws equal for everyone, certainly when money is involved.
But ofcourse that is if we still want to use money.
Profit at any price vs. people before profit.
What is the opensource software he is talking about at the end?
I think it was just a comprehension:
-opensoursce Software is free downloadable -> you don't have to wait for anyone who starts spreading it around
-complementary cuurencys work just the samme -> you don't have to wait for anyone who starts spreading it around
Lietaer promotes the idea of Commercial Credit Circuits (C3) which basically boils down to a Trade Exchange... similar to "Barter Card" etc. ~ A privately run local monetary system operating within a national monetary system using barter dollars or brownie points to record who owes who what. The downfall of such a system is that it undermines government regulatory control.
Those "C3" don't sound that different from credit notes, which have existed and been used as a quasi-currency for centuries...
yes and this is exactly his point: credit notes show that complementary currenceies work and C3 would be kind of a further development of those credit notes
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Tell us about when employees felt respected or disrespected by your company. + win a free book signed by Stan Slap
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Cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin which is both efficient and resilient will be a good catalyst for these ideas as an alternate to the bank / government controlled unsustainable status quo.
Anyone with half a brain can conclude that the current economy is engineered to fail rather than fails due to extraneous variables. No amount of revising will fix it. I will always fail.
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