MyLifeOutdoors on the most OVERRATED Gear in Backpacking!
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@MyLifeOutdoors joins the show for a HUGE episode! We talk about overrated backpacking gear, Steven shows how much smarter than me he is, and of course... we talk about backpacking UA-cam. Fantastic guest, fantastic episode, you're gonna love it!
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Edited by: @LeviSpangler
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Don’t take lack of views as evidence viewers don’t love the video. The algorithm is so frustrating. I’ve had to go searching to find videos from channels I subscribe to because they don’t show up in my feed. I can’t be alone on this. I’ve seen some amazing videos with less views and I’m shocked. But I really think sometimes the algorithm is wonky.
Agreed. I have this experience as well. I don’t understand the algorithm. Sometimes it makes no sense.
Veritasium does a good episode on this
For Steven's video idea, I bet he could reach out to Destin from Smarter Every Day and get it done. Destin's got the curiosity, slow motion equipment, and private property to match.
Edit: Destin, not Dustin
Destin*
@@LittleGreenFire ah yes, thank you! Reach out to Destin, Dustin won't know what to do
I enjoy both of yall and it's great to see the conversation. Different enough vibes and content to where I can watch both and find different information and angles on a similar subject.
Steven is by far the most wholesome guy in the space. Cant wait to watch this one!
@NathanHassall I've been following Steven for years and I catch all of his interviews when he goes onto these podcasts. You have to understand that the business man hat is how he makes his living here, so I don't knock him for that. He will talk up a new product while putting it to the test and always comes back around with budget options to help the little guy. Can't say that about alot of these other guys out here.
"Kyle Hates Camp Chairs" 😂😂🤣
If something is wet its physically impossible for it to also be "breathable." If anything gets wet it becomes airtight. You can wet denim pants and use them as an inflatable in emergency situations.
Actual facts. Long ago in scouting, I learned how to use a pair of jeans as a quick inflatable device. It works. Lol
@@jyc313 I learned to use jeans as a floatation device in lifeguard training too!
@@squirrellytravelerme too. While I wouldn’t call them airtight, they held air well enough.
That’s why sailor’s uniforms traditionally had bell bottom pants. If they went over board they could slip their pants off quickly without taking off their shoes and perform this technique with their pants. Source: dad, he was in the navy back in the 50s.
Quiet chambers are so awesome, I did a co-op for a company that had one for testing and sometimes I would go in there to escape all the noises and clear my head on my projects. A few times it was to observe the testing (then it wasn't so quiet).
My brother, the people will come! I can only speak from my experience, but while starting the sport I found Miranda goes outside by looking for gear/loading video which brought me to the gear you gave her which down my line made me curious of forensics on trail which brought me to you - you got an awesome down the line find and I’ve been hooked on your vids for weeks💯
I just bought a chair zero for my backpacking in Grayson Highlands over the past day … it was so nice to just have a chair
Two of my favorite outdoor YTers! Great show. I really think it's enjoyable to see the planning and thoughts behind your awesome channels.
Backpack with a chair but don't film it. If you like it, then that'll be a video with high views and "sell out" comments. If you dislike it, no one will ever know you took a chair.
I am not a thru-hiker. I am only a section hiker when time allows it. I have tried to be as ultralight as possible, but every time I see someone with a chair, I long to sit in it. So I purchased a zero and can’t wait to use it while I have lunch and when I set up camp in the evening.
@@gmoneycash7456I really appreciated my chair when I took it.
Or film it and don’t use the footage. 😂
Another excellent episode! As a sound engineer, Steven's 'silence' video resonated with me in particular, and I love how it's impacted other people too. An interesting conversation all-round, though, thank you!
Keep up the great work both of you (and Levi and Luke too!)
I love Steven's videos. His idea for the overfilling canisters might be a perfect fit for a collaboration with @demolitionranch Matt has a safe range that could "disable" the tank for safety if needed, and he has seen a thing or two exactly like this (scuba tanks/fire extinguisher/etc).
That's a great idea!
Kyle’s Friends: Take pictures please 😂
Kyle I stand by you for backpacking camp chairs. But I do a lot of kayak camping and it’s a different game. You can take a chair, firewood and a cooler in a personal boat. You just need a day pack for adventures during camping. None of the weight of the cooler or firewood or chair will ever be on your shoulders. IKEA bags are the best, balance the boat and you’ll be fine.
I have scoliosis in my lower back and sitting on the ground for any period of time is painful. I reluctantly took a chair on a backpacking trip once and realized that it was worth it, because the next day I was able to get up and hike out without pain. I don’t know if I’d take it on long trips where I’d just be hiking or sleeping, but a trip where I might be sitting and talking I would find it worth it.
As a younger person I know I would have scoffed at bringing a chair. As a 47 year old I had to grudgingly admit that the extra pound was worth being able to stand up straight the next morning.
If I went with Kyle’s opinion that once I need a chair I’m going to stop hiking I would miss out on some good fun. I mean I don’t NEED it, but it extends the number of days I can comfortably hike.
Honestly, it sometimes is worth it to buy expensive gear right away. I spent, probably, more money on cheaper gear trying to find a good sleep in the woods below -20C before eventually ending up with TNF Inferno (-29C) sleeping bag and Thermarest Xtherm mat. There is often a reason for a gear to be that expensive, and the reason commonly isn't the brand name only.
It’s hard to figure out which expensive thing I want until I have tried some things and learned what I like and don’t. I wouldn’t want to splurge for an expensive quilt or hammock to then figure out I just don’t like it. I know there are ways to try things out without spending money, but gear rentals or borrowing from someone isn’t always available. Still, once I’ve decided I like something I agree that it’s better to just spend the money up front. Hands down.
@thisbeem2714 the best choice would be to borrow it for a few nights. But I do understand that this isn't always possible.
@@archi-mendel indeed. I bet knowing a gear junkie would be awesome. Test out all the things!
Love Steven. He’s awesome. Great idea getting him on the channel Kyle. Stellar job interviewing him.
The Xtreme lite frogg toggs is a great value rain jacket. $35 normally also they have youth sizes that can save weight if your a smaller guy like me
have you watched Lost lakes videos ? he does lengthy boys up by superior.
How does Steven explain fishing waders?
My neoair pads usually has a baffle delaminate after years of use and when it happens it basically means your guaranteed a new pad replacement. The uber light is total garbage. But the xlite and xtherm are amazing
I personally don't understand why plp think they are uncomfortable.
XTherm is by far the best hiking gear I ever bought. It just makes any winter sleeping a cozy experience, not a survival exercise.
Kyle - could you try and get Luke from the outdoors boys on here. I'd love to see that conversation as well. He doesn't have comments enabled so it'd be cool if you could maybe put a poll out for popular questions to ask him if you ever have him on..
This was an awesome video man! I love that you've created a dedicated space on UA-cam for conversations like these. My life outdoors is one of my favorite channels on UA-cam. The second he mentioned Mythbusters I saw the connection and it's great to have meaningful data on the gear we're using.
When you were talking about the walk in cooler for gear testing.
Crazy idea maybe, but ask one of the 'local' dried food companies that you can get on GGG if they have a place where you can do that? Combine it maybe with a factory tour, I would love to see How It Is Made, Freeze Dried Food.
Steve said when he's talking to someone he really doesn't anticipate that they have seen any/many of his videos. But if I got a call from another U/T and they want to do a podcast & YT interview, I would expect they down a deep dive into my content. Enjoyed.
@mylifeoutoors is great. If I can get a new KHH murder mystery and a new video from Steven, it makes for a good relaxed night watching the tube. You guys make some great videos... almost as great as mine.
Just watching a movie, a walk in the woods. Do a film review!!
I sent an uberlite back to cascades designs...I couldn't find a leak but it was always losing air. They told me it was discontinued and sent me a neoair. I actually had violated the warranty by putting velcro on it...but they said since it was a "manufacturing defect" they would replace it. I think basically the material is too thin and can sometimes allow air through even without a leak.
I still have a short size uberlite. Same problem with that one. Maybe if someone is not as heavy as myself it would work...but I think its a flawed design.
I don’t think you appreciate a backpacking chair until you’re older. And it’s not just what you’re sitting on, it’s the backrest.
These are more entertaining than your main channel. Great interview
I know this is a random question: What hammock setup do you use?
I have the neo air nxt and before it I slept just on the ground while camping so I find the pad super comfortable but it makes me wonder how much better it can get
....enjoyed the chat guys
Klymit might not be the warmest, but they're in my top 2 most comfortable pads as a side sleeper. I even prefer them over those super thick self-inflating pads used for car camping.
The problem with Klymit is that they misled people by saying their mats have r-value of 4.4 (suitable for winter) when it actually isn't warmer than a much lighter foam pad. It's simply unprofessional and dangerous. Some time ago, lots of people recommended their mats as one of the best for hiking, now they're not. And this is well deserved.
I'm saying this as an Insulated Static V owner. It's not just "not the warmest", it's simply shouldn't be used in below freezing temperatures. And the whole idea that sleeping bag will expand in those gaps is, honestly, ridiculous. I once slept on this pad on the icy ground with an additional 1cm thick foam pad underneath it at -13C. I felt chilly the whole night, despite I had quite a few extra clothing on me. At morning, that ice melted under the mat.
With Thermarest Xtherm, I slept in the same sleeping bag at -15C in my underpants only, and I had to open sleeping bag zipper a bit as it was simply hot inside.
Klymit Static V, insulated or not, are summer sleeping mats and they should be promoted as such only.
@@archi-mendelgood to know. It’s a bummer they misrepresented the R value.
@thisbeem2714 they just made it up based on their assumption that sleeping bag feeling those gaps adds huge r-value. But it doesn't actually fill it in real life situation and it also depends a lot on a certain sleeping bag (some of the professional ones have less insulation on the back to save weight, not even speaking about quilts).
The conventional ASTM tests gives insulated version r-value dropping from 4.4 to 1.9 is (which is similar to Thermarest Ridge Rest closed cell foam sleeping pad) and regular version from 1.5 to 1.3 (which is similar to a cheap 8 mm closed cell foam sleeping pad).
On their official websites they still promote their made-up r-values and on their products they promote their made-up r-values followed by ASTM ones.
Anything below 2 is considered summer, 3-season has to be at least 2 and winter - at least 4. So, they promote purely summer sleeping pads as well suitable for winter.
This is nothing but scam. And a very dangerous one. Not sure why outdoor community didn't boycott their products yet.
Myself, I paid for this misleading information with with 2 weeks of bronchitis. I was blaming my custom-made sleeping bag for this, until I got myself a legit winter mat.
@@archi-mendel Bronchitis is a viral infection. Their pad didn't give you bronchitis.
@gman963 okay, I'll take your pass and will play this "I'm smart" game as well.
Exposing your body to low temperatures severely limits its ability to withstand viruses. This is why flu, which is a viral infection, is often referred to as "getting a cold". It's also why exposing your lungs to cold temperatures often leads to pneumonia.
There are numerous studies out there, for example, the "Exposure to cold and respiratory tract infections" article states:
"Although not all studies agree, most of the available evidence from laboratory and clinical studies suggests that inhaled cold air, cooling of the body surface and cold stress induced by lowering the core body temperature cause pathophysiological responses such as vasoconstriction in the respiratory tract mucosa and suppression of immune responses, which are responsible for increased susceptibility to infections."
Now, back to the original topic - Klymit is scamming people and exposing them to dangerous situations like getting hypothermia while being far away from people and hospitals. And yes, they were the reason of me catching that bronchitis.
I think I need to go watch Steven's video about silence. I've been trying to find some and just can't!
Im sure the guys at safetythird podcast would run with that butane/propane canister idea
How ironic. You won’t walk all day and then enjoy a nice seat, but you are planning a trip where you will sit all day and are planning to take a seat for the end of the day. Hmmmm
My thoughts too. I'd bring a z-seat for the canoe and probably stand a good bit at camp after sitting. Then if I want to sit I have the z -seat
That’s a good point.😂 Also, it’s hard to take such a strong opinion seriously when he’s never experienced taking a chair on a backpacking trip. He’s basically anti chair to be anti chair with no other reason. I mean, I used to be right there with him. I’m just older and more willing to admit I’ve changed my mind.
Fan of both of you, but youtuber inside talk is pretty damn boring. Just my opinion, do what's fun for you. I get why you 2 would want to talk about that stuff. Personally had fun with the 2nd half of the video.
Dude, it's already fire season here in West. Are you finishing the PCT this year?
You gotta watch the bread tab video BTW.
I'm with you Kyle!!! No chair!!!
I’m glad I’m not the only one annoyed by all the walk by camera shots. I always picture them walking back every time and it ruins the authenticity for me. I compare it to a magician revealing the trick, and then having to watch every other magician perform that trick over and over. There’s no more awe in it.
At first I never thought about it, but once I did I couldn’t not. 😂. I do like it when people video river crossings because I am interested in learning how to best do that. But I definitely think about how they have to cross two more times to get the camera. ❤
I’ve had two neo airs pop within a year
Not even a small collapsible camp stool? They fold so small and are so convenient. You should do a video where you rate the various chairs that people recommend to you. I bet that would get a lot of views.
It probably would because his viewers know how anti chair he is! He’d also be hilarious while trying them out. B
I just found chuppl too I like it
Most local police departments have a bomb squad. They may be willing to work with you on safety video. Or check with the fire department.
I'd love to see you interview Wander Women
Kyle I enjoy your videos but I’ve never been hiking in my life. I guess I’m living my life through yours
At least your hiking life! ❤
Great episode 🤘
You missed two opportunities for some personal depth when Steve mentioned a trip with his wife and ended with potentially disastrous trip with his daughter. "How involved is your wife with your videos, does she ever want to be on camera, ect. Some questions about the daughter would have been interesting too, is she a critic? Does she brag to her friends?...
Great video!!!😊❤😊
@desert.drifter has a really cool niche in hiking videos. I love that channel.
That channel is awesome! Ghost Town Living is another awesome UA-cam channel.
Just wanted to say I enjoy watching your content Kyle, now get a job😂😂. JK. Keep up the great work. That other dude is cool as well
Getting wet is only an issue if it's dropping your body temp to the point hypothermia would be a threat to your life. Other than that get over the fact that you might get wet. If you want all the creature comforts of being at home stay home.
Unless it’s above 80 I start to get hypothermic if I’m wet. It’s pretty inconvenient. I’m jealous of folks who can walk around wet in milder temps.
Idgaf what ppl think. I take what I take and backpack the way I want. I’m the one carrying it. If I want a chair then by god I’m taking it.
So.
Freaking awesome!
Trail tails A Kyle. Get your a$& out there and show some effort!
Unpopular opinion: I absolutely hate his videos
Is it because you are literally watching a commercial every time? That is how I feel.....
Super disappointed in this video. Your title totally misleading :-(
UA-camrs talking UA-caming
so basically what this video showed is these guys opinions are shit lol dont listen to youtubers at all
You guys don't seem to know much.
Dear sweet Kyle. Uniqueness is binary. Things are either unique (one of a kind) or not unique. They cannot be very unique, so unique, extremely unique. It's not a spectrum. There aren't shades. I think you misuse that word at least one time every episode.
I suppose enough people think of uniqueness on a spectrum that the misuse doesn’t matter anymore. People use it as a synonym of rare.
There's already a kind of Mythbusters for backpacking. @gearskeptic
Totally agree, it is very underrated channel
I just bought a chair zero for my backpacking in Grayson Highlands over the past day … it was so nice to just have a chair
Klymit sleeping pads are not great, but I have the camp chair, packable daypack, inflatable seat cushion (which doubles as a backpack cushion.) I love all of them.
My static V is way better than my thermarest SI but my rapide SL beats them both
Klymit are great if they would be promoted by Klymit as summer ones (which they are), not as winter ones (when speaking about insulated series). They are super cozy, unless it's below freezing.