Putting him up for trade doesn't mean they're saying he's the problem. It means he's valuable enough to trace for D upgrades that can make a difference
And who are you replacing them with lol? How much are we going to get for them at their lowest value? I agree with getting Trouba out since he has a big hold on the salary cap but the other two need to stay.
After the Trouba trade & Shesterkin signing , I think they will offer Miller an equivalent short term “show me” contract next . If he does not accept this show me contract , I think they will trade Miller next ! If he does accept the same contract , then I think they will trade Lindgren and his 1 year UFA contract . At the trade deadline . I am not a fan of trading Kreider , he has serious specialty team value , wants to win a Stanley cup in NY and wants his name in the rafters … if they consider trading him it should be after the season .
I do love Kreider and hate to see him go. It will hurt. Kreider took a team-friendly deal and they treat him like that (if they trade him). The guys with the horrible contracts get catered to. I'm tired of it.
The LEAUGE sent out a letter to teams reminding them of TAMPERING, INCLUDING PLAYERS ! Krieder leaking his injury is Tampering , pointing out specific injuries to his back so teams will be reluctant to trade for him !
Trading Kreider is a bad hockey move, but even worse, will cause a major problem in the locker room. Goodrow, Trouba and Kreider are the most respected guys on the team, and Drury is attempted to get rid of all of them. Trouba for cap space I get and hes not the player once was, but Kreider is not the problem. Also, I have been a Ranger fan since 77, and if they have to trade the core players, especially a life long Ranger, then winning a Cup means nothing.
@@23snacKs Yeah, he was and Drury screwed him and went around his no trade, buy putting him on waivers in the offseason. Goodrow was and the other two are.
Sick of the whole "We won the Presidents Trophy last year. We've been to the ECFs 2 of the last 3 years" .How many Stanley's have we won?? Zero. Oh and we've been through 3 coaches in 6 years with the same veteran core
The real reason why we are moving Kreider b/c we can't move Zib with his no movement clause. And even if we can move Z, we won't be able to get any value for him. I do hope this comment doesn't age well.
They’re losing before they start every game they play shestekin gives up weak goals but wants 11.5m a year they can put that money in defense and get better bank for their buck and protect the net
First of all love the content. Just have to defend kreider with regards to his assists. As joe Micheletti has said a bunch of times about him, even though he doesn't get an assist on the play his perfect net front presence is the reason for the goal. Just some of the intangibles to take into account when you get rid of him. Again thanks for the great channel
Facts over feelings. Get rid of the dead weight. This teams veteran core is toxic. Trouba Mika Kreider Lindgren and even Miller need to go. Drury should be fired
A great line delivered early in the classic movie "The Good,The Bad & The Ugly"... "When you have to shoot - SHOOT! Don't talk!" Guess Rangers management missed the 1966 epic... When you need to trade - TRADE! Don't destroy morale via rumor monger. Sit some slackers as healthy scratches. Fill the space with call ups from Hartford. We know Rempe, Harpur, Mancini, Othmann, Berard will give 100% effort every shift, do some real physical hitting, actual fights instead of useless doggie paddles in scrums. Might lose some games - better than losing pride and professionalism... and fans.
Honestly Kreider brings a lot to the Rangers with experience and is a good player. If anyone should be moved on is Trouba who seems to be out to lunch except for the fight he had against Montreal-which they needed to wake them up for that game. Who will show up tonight? Kreider leaves, then what - Trouba still playing and lolly gagging around. The other thing we need is MORE shots on goal quickly with bodies in front and going to the net. In no way should any of the defensemen be going deep with the forwards getting caught deep .
Who are some of the players that the Rangers could possibly bring in to replace them I haven’t heard much about any players who are available so I’m wondering if this just a salary dump and turning to next year already? I’m sure most teams are gonna have to send back salary, but are they gonna send back talent or a salary dump? Who do you think the top defenseman and top forward that would be available via trade would be?
Great Video, as usual, Darius. I don't see Chris Kreider as the problem & a reason to trade him. I think that he's proof of how to play, especially when you're in A Slump. Even given that their not playing well, it's Chris Kreider who's scoring 10 goals, in A Slump. Mentioning Jacob Trouba, he's the type of player that has to go & he'd likely do better on another team. I think that JT Miller for Jacob Trouba would likely be a benefit to Both Teams. The Rangers need A Scorer & The Vancouver Canucks need to get Defense. I think that many other players need to go. They need to trade DMen to get a forward or 2 & get trade some of their forwards to get DMen. I'm on the fence with them & Igor Shesterkin, but, I think he isn't worth $12+M/yr. Let me know what you think
Yea they're turning on the big names. Kreider has been a staple face of the team for how long now? I have really like kreider and Mika together for years now but if they're going the boil the ocean route suspending Mika and that foul contract would make more sense over kreider. I definitely do not want to see kreider go it will be a slap in the face to the team and fans alike
Already down 2-0. I think it was a bull shit move to leak the fact that players were up for trade and not do it . If I was any of the players named I would want to get out as soon as possible
No way rangers trade krider or trouba. They should trade miller,smith, or/and othman this season. Lindgren will prob walk and trouba will get delt. If it were up to me id trade laffy and keep trouba so that we can get him at 3mil or something like that. Imgaine the return we can get with Laffy. Cyulle and berad already show top 6 potential and prob wont command over 5 mil. Smith Lindgren trouba and miller are around 20 Mil.... We have youth that can fill those slots now... Mancini can be in for trouba, get a LHD or try out robertson ect, othman (if not delt) sykorya, our offense dosent need a beef up or even an adition.... anyways, thsts around 25mil with cao increase.... half goes to igor so rangers have around 12 mil to get at least 2 solid defenders....as we see a carrick sign is just as efficent as anything... dont need the fancy toy all the time.... we do need to adress our defsenmen big time though... again i think trading laffy over trouba would beneift our team in the long run and again prob get trouba at an amaizng price.
If kreider wasnt on the power play he wouldn't score. He doesnt check, he cant puck handle and hes not a play maker and he doesn't produce in the playoffs. Trade him !
These are all just speculations. The Rangers problem is leaks. How are all these lesks happening. Trouba trade over summer. Caused huge problems. Now Drury says something. All are running with it. I don’t see Rangers doing much. They’re not in a good position. But they operate like this. DeAngelo should have brought something in return. Instead Rangers throw him away. These moves should have been made last summer. Now is not the time. Plus. Laviolette has to take some blame. Defensive zone coverage is terrible. Guys wide open in the slot too many times.
Since Zibs controls his own fate as far as trades go, maybe the fans at the Garden can make him want to leave. How? Boo his intro. Boo him whenever he gets the puck. Not a pleasant thing for Rangers fans to do, but he’s the single biggest reason holding this team back from the Cup.
We need guys who aren't going to lose 4 straight two years in a row right before reaching the promiseland!!! Messier WOULD HAVE NEVER ALLOWED IT!!! Cowards need to go.
If your over 30 or have a prohibitive contract....you should have been out the door this past summer. If management did not see what we ALL saw last playoff...then they should follow those players out the door as well. Whats Dolan waiting on ? He fired JD and Gordon cause he saw the same lack of disapline on the ice. 🏒♥️🍸
Kreider is not the problem…hes a perpetual goal scorer. Sure up the defense and add some toughnesses
Putting him up for trade doesn't mean they're saying he's the problem. It means he's valuable enough to trace for D upgrades that can make a difference
Are you joking? he has 4 5v5 goals in 21 games and ZERO assists. That's a problem
Get rid of Trouba, Miller, and Lindgren.
getting rid of miller would be a horrible mistake
@ he isn’t a shut down defenseman. All he does is poke check with his stick. We need someone who isn’t another Marc Staal who only stick checks.
And who are you replacing them with lol? How much are we going to get for them at their lowest value? I agree with getting Trouba out since he has a big hold on the salary cap but the other two need to stay.
After the Trouba trade & Shesterkin signing , I think they will offer Miller an equivalent short term “show me” contract next .
If he does not accept this show me contract , I think they will trade Miller next !
If he does accept the same contract , then I think they will trade Lindgren and his 1 year UFA contract . At the trade deadline .
I am not a fan of trading Kreider , he has serious specialty team value , wants to win a Stanley cup in NY and wants his name in the rafters … if they consider trading him it should be after the season .
I do love Kreider and hate to see him go. It will hurt. Kreider took a team-friendly deal and they treat him like that (if they trade him). The guys with the horrible contracts get catered to. I'm tired of it.
We need Brady Tkachuk !
Agreed
Never going to happen.
@andrewbranchaud9029 I hear yuh but I would love have him a Rangers Jersey...he is a great playoff player let alone Regular Star
@@andrewbranchaud9029 it definitely could
Get rid of Trouba ASAP by any means necessary. Give him the Goodrow treatment. Goodrow didn't deserve it. Trouba does.
The LEAUGE sent out a letter to teams reminding them of TAMPERING, INCLUDING PLAYERS !
Krieder leaking his injury is Tampering , pointing out specific injuries to his back so teams will be reluctant to trade for him !
Trading Kreider is a bad hockey move, but even worse, will cause a major problem in the locker room. Goodrow, Trouba and Kreider are the most respected guys on the team, and Drury is attempted to get rid of all of them. Trouba for cap space I get and hes not the player once was, but Kreider is not the problem.
Also, I have been a Ranger fan since 77, and if they have to trade the core players, especially a life long Ranger, then winning a Cup means nothing.
goodrow?
@@23snacKsyeah goodrow is a bum
@@23snacKs Yeah, he was and Drury screwed him and went around his no trade, buy putting him on waivers in the offseason. Goodrow was and the other two are.
@@rgiardelli you said hes on the team
@@23snacKs And you arent smart enough
to figure out what I meant. Whats your point?
Sick of the whole "We won the Presidents Trophy last year. We've been to the ECFs 2 of the last 3 years" .How many Stanley's have we won?? Zero. Oh and we've been through 3 coaches in 6 years with the same veteran core
The real reason why we are moving Kreider b/c we can't move Zib with his no movement clause. And even if we can move Z, we won't be able to get any value for him. I do hope this comment doesn't age well.
Hopefully Drury’s included
keep players on edge thats how keenan handled his players
Drury is terrible at making trades. I don't trust him to do this.
Dude, maybe we'll get Sammy Blais for him!😂😂😂
Miller must go today! But how about Drury? Awful, fire him. Tonight's loss to Devs, 5 of 6
They’re losing before they start every game they play shestekin gives up weak goals but wants 11.5m a year they can put that money in defense and get better bank for their buck and protect the net
First of all love the content. Just have to defend kreider with regards to his assists. As joe Micheletti has said a bunch of times about him, even though he doesn't get an assist on the play his perfect net front presence is the reason for the goal. Just some of the intangibles to take into account when you get rid of him. Again thanks for the great channel
Hard for Kreider to get assists when you have center like Mika who whiffs on so many grade A chances.
Facts over feelings. Get rid of the dead weight. This teams veteran core is toxic. Trouba Mika Kreider Lindgren and even Miller need to go. Drury should be fired
A great line delivered early in the classic movie "The Good,The Bad & The Ugly"...
"When you have to shoot - SHOOT! Don't talk!"
Guess Rangers management missed the 1966 epic...
When you need to trade - TRADE! Don't destroy morale via rumor monger.
Sit some slackers as healthy scratches. Fill the space with call ups from Hartford.
We know Rempe, Harpur, Mancini, Othmann, Berard will give 100% effort every shift, do some real physical hitting, actual fights instead of useless doggie paddles in scrums.
Might lose some games - better than losing pride and professionalism... and fans.
Trouba and Lindgren can't skate and get the puck out of the zone. Miller just sucks as a defenseman. Mika and Kreider cannot produce 5v5.
Drury needs to be fired before he destroys this team more
U have over 3500! Great show!
Thank you, appreciate you all!
do you know how hard it is to make a "hockey trade" today?
trade deadline deals for sellers with their ufa's for draft picks
Honestly if it helps the name on the front of the jersey I truly couldn't care less what happens with any of the names on the back of the jersey.
Honestly Kreider brings a lot to the Rangers with experience and is a good player. If anyone should be moved on is Trouba who seems to be out to lunch except for the fight he had against Montreal-which they needed to wake them up for that game. Who will show up tonight? Kreider leaves, then what - Trouba still playing and lolly gagging around. The other thing we need is MORE shots on goal quickly with bodies in front and going to the net. In no way should any of the defensemen be going deep with the forwards getting caught deep .
He can’t be moved not on
Moron
Trouba, Miller, Mika disappears every playoff run
Team D is terrible. That’s on the coach
Best regular season in Original Six history????????? Didn't Boston win 60 games a few years ago??
Who are some of the players that the Rangers could possibly bring in to replace them I haven’t heard much about any players who are available so I’m wondering if this just a salary dump and turning to next year already? I’m sure most teams are gonna have to send back salary, but are they gonna send back talent or a salary dump? Who do you think the top defenseman and top forward that would be available via trade would be?
Drury needs to go he is horrible
Great Video, as usual, Darius. I don't see Chris Kreider as the problem & a reason to trade him. I think that he's proof of how to play, especially when you're in A Slump. Even given that their not playing well, it's Chris Kreider who's scoring 10 goals, in A Slump. Mentioning Jacob Trouba, he's the type of player that has to go & he'd likely do better on another team. I think that JT Miller for Jacob Trouba would likely be a benefit to Both Teams. The Rangers need A Scorer & The Vancouver Canucks need to get Defense. I think that many other players need to go. They need to trade DMen to get a forward or 2 & get trade some of their forwards to get DMen. I'm on the fence with them & Igor Shesterkin, but, I think he isn't worth $12+M/yr. Let me know what you think
Yea they're turning on the big names. Kreider has been a staple face of the team for how long now?
I have really like kreider and Mika together for years now but if they're going the boil the ocean route suspending Mika and that foul contract would make more sense over kreider. I definitely do not want to see kreider go it will be a slap in the face to the team and fans alike
Already down 2-0. I think it was a bull shit move to leak the fact that players were up for trade and not do it . If I was any of the players named I would want to get out as soon as possible
If he trades the most clutch player in palyoffs then he needs to be fired guy is amazing in playoffs since 2014
No way rangers trade krider or trouba.
They should trade miller,smith, or/and othman this season.
Lindgren will prob walk and trouba will get delt. If it were up to me id trade laffy and keep trouba so that we can get him at 3mil or something like that. Imgaine the return we can get with Laffy. Cyulle and berad already show top 6 potential and prob wont command over 5 mil.
Smith Lindgren trouba and miller are around 20 Mil.... We have youth that can fill those slots now... Mancini can be in for trouba, get a LHD or try out robertson ect, othman (if not delt) sykorya, our offense dosent need a beef up or even an adition.... anyways, thsts around 25mil with cao increase.... half goes to igor so rangers have around 12 mil to get at least 2 solid defenders....as we see a carrick sign is just as efficent as anything... dont need the fancy toy all the time.... we do need to adress our defsenmen big time though... again i think trading laffy over trouba would beneift our team in the long run and again prob get trouba at an amaizng price.
Darius we need a scoring threat to, this would be the dumbest player to trade hands down
Chris Drury is the culture problem. He needs to go
Get rid of Drury
Mika shoud be the first to be traded we don't want him.
Mika will prolly go to another team and score 50
If kreider wasnt on the power play he wouldn't score. He doesnt check, he cant puck handle and hes not a play maker and he doesn't produce in the playoffs. Trade him !
Play rempe !!
No
These are all just speculations. The Rangers problem is leaks. How are all these lesks happening. Trouba trade over summer. Caused huge problems. Now Drury says something. All are running with it. I don’t see Rangers doing much. They’re not in a good position. But they operate like this. DeAngelo should have brought something in return. Instead Rangers throw him away. These moves should have been made last summer. Now is not the time. Plus. Laviolette has to take some blame. Defensive zone coverage is terrible. Guys wide open in the slot too many times.
He till needs to perform...no Stanley Cup
The Rangers need to just go out and Play F'in Hockey. Stop with all this BS.
Kreider should have been traded 3 years ago
Drury lost this team, and the seems soft. They hear boo and get deflated. Play better.
Since Zibs controls his own fate as far as trades go, maybe the fans at the Garden can make him want to leave. How? Boo his intro. Boo him whenever he gets the puck. Not a pleasant thing for Rangers fans to do, but he’s the single biggest reason holding this team back from the Cup.
We need guys who aren't going to lose 4 straight two years in a row right before reaching the promiseland!!! Messier WOULD HAVE NEVER ALLOWED IT!!! Cowards need to go.
If your over 30 or have a prohibitive contract....you should have been out the door this past summer. If management did not see what we ALL saw last playoff...then they should follow those players out the door as well. Whats Dolan waiting on ? He fired JD and Gordon cause he saw the same lack of disapline on the ice. 🏒♥️🍸
Get rid of Drury.