After the war, the unit my great-uncle was in was stationed at a town by a lake. The rule was that the enlisted men could go in the lake on any day except Sunday, when Patton was suppose to have it all to himself. On one particular Sunday, my great-uncle was on the shore of the lake with a German woman he referred to as "Senorita" (at this point in the story my great-aunt said "Woman? A woman?!" My great-uncle just said, "Not now, Darris. I'm telling a story"). Then he heard Patton's motor boat coming towards him. He hid behind some rocks and asked the German woman not to say anything about him. Sure enough, Patton came right over to the lady, and struck up a conversation. How was she on this fine day? She said that she was fine. Were his men being polite; were they behaving themselves? She said that they were. It went on like that for a bit longer before my great-uncle heard the boat start to pull away again. As it did, he heard Patton shout, "It's all right, soldier, you can come out now!" EDIT: Wow! Didn't expect this to get so much attention. Thank you all!
Drpepper687 yeah we would've have used 79th armoured div specially equipped for task. You're making excuses for his failure. He didn't learn from it after being repelled time & again. Capture more territory despite outnumbering the Germans 5-1 through most of the campaign! Look at Fort Driant 10,000 US vs 1,000 Germans & the Germans won ffs!! What does that tell you?!?
Not really. Patton wasn't the type to dig in. He hated Market Garden precisely because he knew the marshlands of Belgium and the Netherlands would be in hospitable to tanks, plus the Germans could use the numerous small towns as perfect staging grounds for Guerrilla warfare. He also knew as the Germans did that route was the shortest route to Berlin and quickly moved to reinforce that line as opposed to stopping Patton lest he cross the Rhine.
@@THETexzilla Patton was a wanker that didn't give a shit about the men he commanded, he was an over rated, delusional fucktard, but you Yanks ain't known for your military skills though, you've yet to win a major conflict on your own!
I believe he actually said " Give me the men and material and I will go through Europe like shit through a goose, the first quote was a miss quote because that 400,000 gallons wasn't mentioned
billt1954 Thing was Scott had second thoughts I read about taking the role. At first he thought Patton was just a basic right-wing military hawk but as Scott learned who he was portraying he realized Patton was a very complicated man that couldn’t be described so away so easily. But yeah, he nailed the role in legendary status. Even people who never seen or heard of this movie know the movies opening scene.
The story I’ve heard is they first offered the lead to Rod Steiger who turned it down because he felt it was too right-wing, he chose to play Napoleon instead. They next tried Telly Savalas but he wanted too much money
Ox van cool Why is that funny? Monty was a brilliant commander superseded due to American Greed. Britain was on its ass (despite holding out in a way that would've had most nations shitting it's pants) and we took full advantage. We leant our services in exchange for vast reparations. Paid off very recently (Britain had to suck up all manner of Nuclear bases in the 80's because of the post war deal) Patton and Eisenhower were short term thinkers, essentially poor military minds; elevated due to the American desire to appear as victors. America was late, just like with WW1, selfish and have taken credit ever since. We should be ashamed for pretending that 'We saved your ass.... etc. etc." Fuck private Ryan and Fuck Patton. America needs to grow up. I mean.... We just elected Trump! The world thinks we're retarded.... With damn good reason.
Ox van cool I'll give you that. The film is amazing, Scott is amazing (forgotten the guy's name who was supposed to be Patton) I have the same problem with Brit films which fail to give proper credit. Plus, it was a different age. I obviously had a hair across me arse that night.
"Monty was a brilliant commander" Doesn't explain why he ignored intell around Arnhem having a SS Panzer Division and almost wiped out the British 1st Airborne Division from existence by assuming the Germans consisted of old men and young boys. Also foolish to think the war could of ended by Christmas just because of one gigantic thrust upwards. And he blatantly told the press that HE was the one responsible for countering the German offensive during the Battle of the Bulge. Eisenhower was right to never allow Monty to have another word at the table after the disaster that was Operation Market Garden. In fact, both he and Bradley had a good chuckle when Monty was furious that he was stopped by US Army MPs to check his identification card. Patton's thrust down center to the River Rhine had the best chance of entering Germany. His army was literally beating the Germans to the pulp that they couldn't mount any effective counter attack. By rerouting his fuel and ammo supply to Monty's greatest failed operation, this allowed the Germans to reinforce the River Rhine's defenses to counter Patton's now depleted forces.
My grandfather was Patton's driver during the first part of the war. My grandfather then saved someones life by putting out a person who was on fire with his bare hands and got severely burned in the act and received the Soldiers Medal. Patton also rewarded him by making him a tank commander in the 10th armored division. At that time the 10th just got to a place called Bastogne. As long as my father could remember he always had a picture of Patton on his wall and my grandfather would salute it everyday.
The 10th are the often forgotten part of the defense of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge - often forgotten behind the legendary presence of the 101st in spite of the crucial value their tanks played in holding the lines. Hell, the 101st likely wouldn't have made it to Bastogne if it wasn't for the 10th holding the line
Bradly, who was still alive during the making of Patton, had a heavy hand in shaping his own dialog (and perhaps that of Patton) in this scene. Patton was brilliant. Scott, as an actor, bring this remarkable character of history to life for generations to come. I don’t think we’ve seen any movie with such a dynamic and high spirited re-enactment of a 20th century leader.
"I didn't pick you! Ike picked you." One the best dramatic scenes in the film, you can see Patton wilt (just) slightly when he realizes Bradley didn't ask for him.
I saw it differently, Bradley's frustrated speech was a back-handed compliment to Patton: he was telling Patton that the overall commander of both of them had chosen him.
Eisenhower to Patton: "you are to bypass Trier because its heavily defended and will require at least 4 Divisions to capture"; Patton to Eisenhower: "have taken Trier with 2 Divisions; what do you want me to do, give it back?"
My mom was 2 years old in the town of Nierstein, Germany where Patton crossed the Rhine and his tanks rolled through. (In history books it's always called Oppenheim, an adjoining town.) My German grandparents told the story of a family that had a baby that was very ill and needed powdered milk. They luckily found a US lieutenant that spoke fluent German who got a doctor to look at the sick baby and gave powdered milk and medicine to them. Also, to this day my mom hates peanut butter given by the ton in US aid right after the war. Without the after effects of WW2 and the Vietnam War my Dad wouldn't have been drafted and stationed in then West Germany. Crazy how history affects each of us in personal ways directly, and indirectly.
My mother (she was 6 when the war ended) is the same, to this day she can't stand peanut butter for the same reason, it's all they had for a while after the war. She also remembers they only had cornmeal to cook bread with; a mix up with the translation over flour vs Mais.
@@marcusdamberger I see why the mistranslation. Funny our shared history isn't it? My mom (who learned this from my Oma) is capable of making wonderful meals with very little. My German family visited quite often during the 70's and 80's. A few of them said they'd never go to the US but when they finally did they always would come back. My parents made friends with a number of other former GI's and their German wives they brought back with them. Lots of parties, fun times growing up.
captmitty, Yeah, Patton was searching for his manhood as he battled SS panzer troups across Europe. Umm.. don't you have a peaceful lil' riot to attend?
@@marcroche9324 1943 - fighting Germans in Africa, when they were weakened enough by Brits. 1944 - fighting second-grade German divisions with complete numerical, materiel and air superiority, while Germany already lost its best soldiers and German economy was already in its death throes. 1945 - fighting third-grade German divisions which were surrendering en-masse while the best available troops were sent East to stop Red Army from invading Germany. Best general in the US history, folks. Just pitiful.
@@thatdude3938 Hey “ that dude “ yea you.........what is the problem. Oh that’s right...you think Biden won and now it is time to bad mouth the great Patton.....Courts will decide the race and you can crawl back into mommy’s basement.
Imagine having a leader who gets the job done, but he has a personality that pisses people off. His strategies work, he does what he says, he fulfills his promises and he does what others fail to do. But, the way people take him becomes more important than anything he's accomplished. Imagine that.
Except with Trump, almost nothing he did actually worked. Idiots like you just choose to believe his lies. Take for instance the economy. Every Trump boot-licker like you thinks he improved it. You disregard 2020 (Covid was not Trumps doing) and then compare GDP growth over Trumps 3 years to Obama's last 4. It was almost identical....withing a few tenths of a %. All those lies about the best economy ever...but if you look at the actual GDP growth data....no real difference. Why? Because Trump did nothing policy wise that could have changed the economy.
If you're trying to find a WW2 figure that compares to our recent president, I think a certain thin skinned, racist, self promoting corporal who relied on nationalistic lies to stir up an ignorant base while turning the rest of the world against his nation might make a better comparison.
George C. Scott played Patton great. I remember seeing this movie when it first came out. Patton was a Soldiers General. German s along with the Russians respected him as well his Men. I've always wanted to Visit his grave. 1 of America s Best General. R.I.P. Patton. We could use more like you now. Salute!
My favourite line was, after everyone else was humming and harring about supporting bastogne he says, "i can have 3 divisions there within 48hours" lolol total boss
As movies go, this is less about war and a lot more about the man, in the same vein as Lawrence of Arabia. The war is almost incidental to both of them. That’s why George C. Scott is so good; because he takes it beyond being a war movie.
@@davidthorp01 George S. Patton is a great Soldier, but would make a terrible politician. Because, Patton spoke his mind, and couldn't care less what other thought. A very rare trait of a General, let alone a Politician. Patton was indeed a great man, leader, and had one hell of a hindsight. Too bad no one from his time could appreciate his honesty, dedication, and commitment to his beloved United States, his greater commitment to the Allied cause, to even worn Eisenhower about the Soviet threat. Truly, the last ture lead from the front General.
Some guy Well, my joke wooshed a little now didn’t it? The poster’s username is the first president’s name. I couldn’t not make the joke man. Although you make fair points on Gen. Patton’s martial skills.
Patton is by far my favorite General of all time. Actually, he is my one and only favorite. He’s very smart, knows how to get morale to his soldiers and knows how to lead them is the reason why. And of course his tenacity to pursue the enemy when they’re at their weakest
Geesh- I remember watching this movie when I was a kid everytime it was on either channel 56 or channel 38 here in the Boston area. One of my favorite WW11 movies. The other ones they showed every few months were "Kelly's Heroes", "The Dirty Dozen", "The Great Escape", "The Longest Day", and "Tora, Tora, Tora." In my mind they still hold up as good entertainment. Those were the days when you had to read the TV guide to know what was coming up for the month . . . Darn kids with your gizmos. . . . I'm a grumpy old man!
My grandfather on my Moms Side was with him in the 7th made it Southern France took a mortar round got patched up and was sent to Patrons 3rd and did the bulge and flexed into Germany liberating Buchenwald and Dachau. Im on total Awe and Respect of him and Patton. Thats why they are the greatest generation bar none hands down.
Wilmer Sandström, don’t forget that America was the leading producer of fuel at that time and the government was taking over control of companies telling them what to produce.besides back then oil was so plentiful that it used to leak out of the ground. Back then a dollar was a dollar.
Gen.George S.Patton received orders to bypass the German city of Trier as it was estimated that 4 divisions would be needed for a successful assault ,but had already taken Trier by the time the message arrived. He responded, ' Have taken Trier with 2 divisions, do you want me to give it back?'
I was fascinated to read Patton's book (actually his memoirs made into a book) "War as I Knew it". He was a very determined man who believed in not giving the opponent a minute to breath and the best way to achieve victory was to constantly apply pressure. The problem was that he fought the war with almost no consideration to the political considerations and that just didn't jive with the realities of the time. It's too bad in many ways because after having studied WWII for 20 years, I believe the war would have ended sooner AND the Western Allies would have been in Berlin before the Russians had they given priority to Patton in supply and support, rather than Montgomery's Market Garden. And a great many more people would have escaped nearly 50 years under communism in Europe.
Churchill would have loved telling him about his idea for Operation Unthinkable, in which the US, British, French (snicker), German and Italian(laughs) would join together and attack the Russian forces if they refused to return to their countries boarders and stay there. This probably would've started WW3 or would've extended the war for 2 to 4 more years draining the moral and resources of the Allied nations to the brink with the victory being a hollow one at the very best.
This scene partially reflects actual events, with two exceptions. There were three allied Army Groups on the Western Front commanded by Montgomery, Bradley and Devers. Because of logistics problems, all three could not be supplied equally. Eisenhower was forced to shift supplies amongst the three Army Groups depending on circumstances. In September 1944, Eisenhower ordered Bradley's Army Group to halt while supplies were shifted to Montgomery's Army Group. This scene makes it appear that Bradley was comfortable with that decision. According to his memoir, "A Soldier's Story," Bradley was very much opposed to Eisenhower's action, apparently more so than Patton. Bradley wrote that they had the Germans on-the-run and they should keep the pressure on them and not let the Germans catch their breath. Eisenhower decided to supply Montgomery's Army Group because he promised to deliver a death-blow to the German war effort by crossing the lower Rhine (Operation Market-Garden) and capturing the industrial Rhur region before the onset of Winter. Overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary because the allies had command of the air and bombing the sites would eliminate the threat with quicker results and fewer casualties.
yeah, if we ever had a chance to 'end the war by christmas' it was by allowing patton to keep up the pressure instead of supplying that market garden debacle. but monty wanted his day in the sun and damn the quickest route to victory.
Patton was 100 miles from the Rhine, had overrun his supplies and faced none of the areas vital to Germany. Patton was also the furthest away from allied supply sources. Far from Montgomery simply wanting a day in the sun he offered to subordinate 21st Army Group to Bradley provided a decision was made to advance on a narrow front. The senior commanders: Bradley, Eisenhower and Montgomery discussed the merits of a broad front strategy or of a narrow thrust. None of them favoured a narrow thrust in the South where Bradley's subordinate Patton was.
Thank you. finally someone who points out the facts that actually mattered in this decision amomg that media hyped garbage that usually gets thrown around as soon as this topic is brought up. Pattons push virtually headed towards a dead end. Just take a map of germany and have a look on the terrain in this region an beyond - huertgen forrest was just a beginning. that area was ideal for the only respond the wehrmacht could have brought up at that time: stiff resistance in a wooden, hilly area where air support is severely hampered and sharp counteroffensives at a narrow front. Not the place to go if you were the allied army of 1944/45. Same goes to remagen and beyond btw. This also meant, that the broad front strategy at some time might have made sense to gain room for manouvers, but only until you came close to the rhine. from there on, it was clear that the way into germany would have to be somewhere in the north. 2. Montgomery wanted a narrow thrust in the north from the very beginning. In hindsight it seems that this indeed would have been the only chance to end the war before christmas (if there was any). The decision went otherwise (who said, that THAT one wasn't political, after all?) . Yes, contrary to all battle plans Montgomery made prior and afterwards - Market Garden was made in a haste and contained many faults - but it wasn't such a defeat as it's often portrayed - it just didn't achieve the most optimistic objectives it would have had to to secure entrance into germany before winter 1944/45. All in all, one could easily look at the whole story about a possible narrow push to the north from this perspective: chances to end the war by 1944 were little, they were hampered further by political decisions and detourment of troops+resources to lesser important operations. An desperate attempt was made to reach out for it but it failed for this time. Try to think of what the story for a possible push south would have been. Finally a few words about some gentlemen's remark that Patton was "keeping up the pressure": the german army - or the remnants there of - were in full retreat into germany on the WHOLE front. They - if at all - only attempted to delay the allied advance with minimum resistance. I read articles praising patton for his quick advances, gaining some 80 kilometres of area in a single day - and when I took a map and checked the general advances of that day, 21st Army made good very much the same space in the same time as did Patton or Bradley, simply because the Germans were on the run. If you want a honest comparison, look at Pattons perfromance once he actually faced an enemy that was not already thrown out of balance by someone else but was instead waiting for his attack in well prepared positions (a thing, Montgomery had to cope with more than once). If Patton could not avoid this situation and either go around such an obstacle or leave it to someone else to crack the nut he didn't perform exeptionally well actually...
33VMUH 'Overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary because the allies had command of the air and bombing the sites would eliminate the threat with quicker results and fewer casualties.' Your words. The V2 was impossible stop in flight and the chances hitting one its mobile launch sites were extremely slim. With the Germans launching missiles from built up areas the chances of avoiding civilian casualties were slight. Almost 33,000 British civilians were killed or wounded by these attacks, quite apart huge amounts of collateral damage. Thousands of British Servicemen could see V weapons being launched in The Netherlands. So don't come on here with a half baked claim that overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary.
Unlike you, Old-timer, I did not experience WWII first-hand. I was born after the war. So I defer to your version of events as you obviously experienced them first-hand.
Americans highly overrate themselves and under value what monty did, he was just as important to the allied victory as patton was, without monty patton wouldn’t have been to do some of the things he did
Sabrina Dugan true but i never said the us was useless or anything nor did i say the uk didnt need them. Something you do forget tho is that the british won the battle of britain. There was no direct threat from invasions.
I got chills When the general said,” “YoU GIVE ME 400,000 gallons I’LL GO TO BERLIN” I was thinking it would’ve been Another SHERMANS MARCH TO THE SEA!!!!
No. The Germans would have counterattacks and destroyed or bad damaged his forces. The Allies were essentially fighting the B- Team in the West. Maybe I'm reading this wrong.
Ike should have fired both Montgomery and Boy Browning for poor performance during Market-Garden. Unfortunately Ike let politics get the get the better of him.
@HoneyBadgerAirsoft there were a lot of things going wrong. Not the least of which was the Dutch resistance had been infiltrated before and the information considered unreliable (which included not driving on the easily flankable road)
@@stuglenn1112 never would of happened. Churchill would of escalated the situation above ikes head. Not to mention that people have rewritten history to put the blame on Monty. Ike had to look over and approve of the market garden plans which means he also believed the plan would work. Therefore he shares blame for the cock up
I think Market Garden was a good idea in practice but the British army got caught up in all the excitement of potentially reaching Berlin first and before Christmas, and made many brutal organisational and strategic mistakes. It's only down to the exemplary performance of the airborne troops that it even made any gains at all.
And in this Film Bradley was an advisor, who over promoted how close he was with Patton. Because Patton was a real fighting General and his fame would pass the test of time. While Bradley was a yes man, who paled in comparison to Pattons abilities and knowledge on warfare.
It took both. Part of the success of D-Day was due to the fact the Germans were convinced Patton would lead it, and therefore didn't commit all their troops at Normandy.
I think you confuse "political" with administrative excellence. Two very different skills. The ability to organize and administrate while viewing the big picture is what made Ike so valuable. Ability on the battle field is an altogether different thing. Yes, political finesse is certainly part of the job. It has always been part of the job for thousands of years.
dfadg sadfga He was sent off on a huge loop west In Normandy and then west. Althoughn the logistics were inspired and clearly helped the rapid progress, the fact Patton faced almost no opposition was also key. The Hurtgen forest. Americans often complain about other Allied Commanders and their cautious approach. Unlike Patton they had been through WW1 and a deep sense of the need to preserve life in war, unlike Patton.
It's important to remember that Bradley's memoir was a major source for this movie, which explains a lot of why it portrays Bradley as a common soldier's general and Patton as his worst stereotypes. Patton was far from perfect, but a lot of the negative behaviors that the movie attributes to him were in reality far more commonly exhibited by Bradley. The movie leaves glosses over those traits for Bradley but not for Patton due to the source material.
One of the big mistakes of the Normandy campaign and breakout was the failure to prioritize Antwerp, Belgium as a port. Antwerp and the Scheldt estuary were not fully cleared of mines and German troops until mid-December, 1944. The earlier clearing of Antwerp might have made a signficant difference as a forward shipping base for supplies like fuel, ammunition, winter gear/supplies etc. The long trail from the Normandy beacheads in August-September, 1944 stretch back some 400 miles to the Belgian, Luxemburg, Holland and eastern French frontier. The Monty Arnham-Nijmegan fiasco with airborne troops was an ill concieved venture doomed to fail. It was stupid strategy to think one northern pincer attack through Holland across seven bridges and the Rhine river would have ended the war early. The German Wehrmacht were good at bouncing back with resetting infantry divisions and armored units quickly with infantry replacements, guns, ammo and equipment to make a stand. So the goal should have been Antwerp, Belgium. Ike could have ordered all Allied divisions to form hedgehogs until Antwerp was cleared too in strong defenisve positions for winter months of December, January and early February. Antwerp, Belgium could have been supplied for the breakout to cross the Rhine in early 1945. A defensive pause in a well entrenched hedgehog with forward outposts would have given American and British infantry divisions time to resupply for winter, train replacements and sit out the worst winter weather when fog and storms limited close air support. I think this plan would have been very doable to resist any German offensive or counterattack. Hedgehogs can be made up of Corps or several divisions with outposts. The artillery and armor are mostly kept within the hedgehog to form a 360 degree perimeter with outposts of minefields, pillboxes and antitank positions covering roadnetworks to and from the hedgehog area.
Whoa! It's 2020, and I just realized something (of master-class cinema) that I'd not noticed in 50 years: Bradley *grows* in this shot -- a good 12"-15". In the beginning, Patton is a good head taller than Bradley. By 0:40 (as they're discussing logistics and Bradley needing to reign Patton in), Patton has not moved, while Bradley, as he approaches, gains height. At 0:43, Bradley has the advantage -- in height *and* in the conversation. And for most of what follows, Bradley's "standing" remains above that of the leadership-acknowledging Patton. Very cool. I would've loved to have listened in as that shot was being set up.
My Dad flew 35 missions in his B-24 over Germany. One of those missions was to supply Patton with fuel. On this "Milk Run" his aircraft, :Honey Gal", flew over the ONLY remaining German AA unit in the area.. The aircraft received damage to the extent that all hydraulic systems were ndamaged. The pilot brought the plane back to England but could not risk a crash landing with all the fuel on board. Everyone bailed out and Honey Gal crashed in the farm lands nearby.
notnecessarily- we weren't login to brute force our way into berlin; nobody but patton even contemplated that-we were away going t o give that task to russians and let them take the 360,000 casualties...afetr the bulge we realized that nazis on the defensive in homeland were not to be trifled with. That said after Third army licked a serious German counterattack at Arracourt, patton could easily have pushed said the complacent german thinking they, rather than Ike/Monty, stopped Patton. and consider-if peptone had broken through Siegfried lien before it was organized/manned, germans would probably have not shifted as many troops to eastern front, allowing them to a dance quicker. Its quite possible he ultimate zones of occupation would have been further west, not east, had patton pushed,succeded andtheratened berlin.
"Hell I know I'm a prima-donna.. I admit it! But what I can't stand about Montgomery is he won't admit it!" Me: Gets a huge fat grin because it hits I can relate to this sentiment 💯 😂
Feel free to remake it with period authentic tanks/planes/equipment, and let me know what your budget is. They filmed it in 1969 in Spain with the equipment they could use. It's a commercial movie not a documentary. If it was a documentary they would have had to find a lead actor with a squeaky voice.
I think the funniest thing Gen. Patton ever did was this: When he was military governor of Barvaria, he was trying to get the German P.O.W's to invade Russia again and get rid of Stalin. Gen. Eisenhower found out and had Patton in his office at attention. He gave him a thorough "pow wow" for that stunt. Patton was all balls back then.
My grandfather was an officer in charge of several supply depots of the Red Ball Express Durring WW II. He had orders from Gen Eisenhower to give to Patton when he came in demanding butts. He handed the Gen the paper with the orders on it. When supplies were diverted for Operation Market-Garden. Only story he ever told me about the war. That was after watching this in the movie. He passed away in June 2018 at 98 years of age. He did say as much of a rage as the Gen was in he took the paper read the orders and just left. He took his orders.
Not quite. The Spear of Destiny was held, along with a number of other historical artefacts, in a series of fortified cellars under Nuremberg Castle for safe-keeping. Nuremberg fell on the 20th of April 1945, at the hands of XV Corps, part of General Jacob Devers' 6th Army Group. After the war, in August 1945, these artifacts were tracked down by medieval studies scholar Walter Horn, who had served under Patton during the war. Not long afterwards, researchers in Vienna used x-ray testing, among other methods, which determined that the lance dated from the 8th or 9th century, ruling out a connection with the events of the 1st century. The spear now resides in the Hofburg Museum in Vienna.
Idk if any of you googled it or just asked for a citation then forgot, but I think I found one. www.coursehero.com/file/p28kd78h/Hitler-called-Patton-what-translates-to-that-crazy-cowboy-general-To-prepare/
I've met a few generals during my T.I.S. and they were all very well educated professionals. Their downfalls were letting politics have a part in determining their decisions but that has been the case since the beginning of that rank, so I do not see a what the fuss is about.
That's impossible, unless your talking about Patton's son. who also became a US Army general. Both McDonald's and Burger King were not around, before George Patton died in Germany.
"Baby, I told you never to call me. "My president needs me. "Of course it's not just physical; one day I'm gonna make you MRS. Buck Turgeson. "Hey Shuge, don't forget to say your prayers" (Looks up to the President Muffley with a straight face).
I think Scott had made his last landmark performance before I saw any of them, but yes, he was something else. Loved him as Gen. Buck Turgidson. Btw, "Boomer" is derived from 'post-war baby boom', so Boomers are incapable of reminiscing about Patton. But they certainly can reminisce about Scott, and I'm sure they do.
Nope. If there is anything to be learned from playing Doom: Kill the monster in the first room. Otherwise you advance to the next room and now you have 2 monsters, one behind you and one in front of you.
@Jason York Well the monster that would win would also get all the manpower and industry of the monster that lost making it an even bigger threat than before
Patton Gained rank riding over the same men he fought along side with in WW1 ..(Bonus war) him and MacArthur Both false heros that cost more lives due to igorance...I shall return really ment I failed at my reason of being here
@Leo Peridot I don't know if we really won a battle But i served in the Kosovo war And was apart of 678 combat sorties. Again in Afghanistan From defensive roles to resupplying food And goods to afgahani people And a wide list of family members that fought in Korea WW2 WW1as far back as record would show King william leaving Normandy to take his throne Or the Norsemen that invaded France And made "Normandy" home.......That being said You don't have to fight in a battle to see these two men for what they were before the break of WW2 America displays the Hero And his right reason While hiding his faults and failures Patton used men like meat shields And knew his tanks were not designed to take on tigers and panthers And 88mm cannons He knowingly push them forward to flush out the Germans for another wave of Shermans And Americans to fight MacArthur was given a heads up to prepare for attacks on the Philippines weeks before it happen He sat on his hands and done nothing In fact When pearl harbor was attacked he was just going home to sleep After along day of golf ............So tell me you History fact of diffrence
@Leo Peridot That's quite the history If it makes you feel better I only get A retired veterans pay of $1,246 per month since i was 39 with $1,171.85 per month from compensation. And 2hrs off my job now with pay out of a 8hr day due to a Bad neck injury From a car crash while on base..: ) I think i might of been in a Old navy store once Looking for flip flops on the way to a place called Boracay
Yes he was since communism was kosher from the beginning and guess who owns the media the same tribe. Katyn forest massacre was done by the communists and the US media blamed Germany, it did not come out till after the Berlin wall fell that the truth was told. Russia built some of the concentration camps after the war.
That was only 25 years after the war. Doubt revisionist hollyweird would give him even close to a fair shake now. They would have him played by John Goodman and dressing in ladies clothes.
My Great-great grandpa (or some other distant relative which I can't quite remember off the top of my head) served under Patton, he was in the same group as Audie Murphey. He was in North Africa and went through the invasion of Sicily and Anzio, I really wish I could have met him, I only know these stories from my grandpa. But one story that I remember excessive details about was one from when he was in North Africa. It was before the German forces were expelled, he and the rest of his unit would spend most of the time on perimeter patrol, especially at night. Every so often command would let them know that some reinforcements from Ethiopia would be coming through on specific days (most of the time at night). So he and his buddies (and the rest of the guys who had to do night patrols) would try their damnedest to even SEE one of them, but they never did. And whenever they would get back to their barracks they would look at their helmet and count the number of hash marks, each one from an Ethiopian soldier who walked right by them, close enough to mark their helmets. He said that he and the guys could hear the German entrenchments scream in the night. One day, when they came through during the day, he said to one of them "I'll give you ten American Dollars (around $150 in modern money) if you can get me a pair of German officer's boots." and with a blank face he said "Tomorrow when you rise, you will have them". The next morning, at the foot of his bunk, were a pair of shiny black German officer's boots. There was just one problem with them, the officer's feet were still in them.
Bad news but he didn't die for lack of a seat belt, but lack of a headrest. He was tall, and without the headrest to absorb the shock he broke his neck.
"Ive always wanted to piss in the rhine"- Patton, shortly before pissing into the rhine in full view of his men.
True sigma male lol
been there, done that. and lemme tell you, the experience is kinda lacking, if there is nobody on the other side trying to shoot you.
We need MEN like Patton not these weaklings who use moisturizer and go to raves looking like girls.
After the war, the unit my great-uncle was in was stationed at a town by a lake. The rule was that the enlisted men could go in the lake on any day except Sunday, when Patton was suppose to have it all to himself. On one particular Sunday, my great-uncle was on the shore of the lake with a German woman he referred to as "Senorita" (at this point in the story my great-aunt said "Woman? A woman?!" My great-uncle just said, "Not now, Darris. I'm telling a story"). Then he heard Patton's motor boat coming towards him. He hid behind some rocks and asked the German woman not to say anything about him.
Sure enough, Patton came right over to the lady, and struck up a conversation. How was she on this fine day? She said that she was fine. Were his men being polite; were they behaving themselves? She said that they were.
It went on like that for a bit longer before my great-uncle heard the boat start to pull away again. As it did, he heard Patton shout, "It's all right, soldier, you can come out now!"
EDIT: Wow! Didn't expect this to get so much attention. Thank you all!
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Even on his down-time he never missed a thing!
Shame he was later assassinated via friendly arty
@@Zerpderp0 he died in a car crash during the occupation.
@@purplefood1 There's a weird theory floating around that he was poisoned or something while recovering from the car crash.
Patton: "Give me 400,000 gallons"
Rick from Pawn stars: "The best i can do 200,000 i am taking a big risk"
I got to get it re-framed, it's going to sit on the shelf for a while taking up space...
Let me call someone who knows more.
*Slaps Sherman tank twice* " What you have right here... is a fake" *Dramatic sting*
Dont forget his proverbial laugh...
Lol
*It's costs 400,000 gallons to lead this spearhead, for twelve seconds.*
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Omfg lmaooo
Some people think they can outsmart me... maybe... maybe.
beat me to it
"All of your Panzers look bloody twelve feet tall!"
Patton was one of the few US commanders who knew how to use tanks. Many German generals praised his performances too.
Like the allies did to Rommel :))
Patton also got a lot of soldiers killed cause of his massive ego , only cause he wanted to beat Montgomery
FYI Most stories of "the germans praised/feared XYZ" are retrospective or come from the allies POV as a way to raise morale
Ahh.. he used his Armour really well at Metz.. took him 3 months to capture the place : /
Drpepper687 yeah we would've have used 79th armoured div specially equipped for task. You're making excuses for his failure. He didn't learn from it after being repelled time & again. Capture more territory despite outnumbering the Germans 5-1 through most of the campaign! Look at Fort Driant 10,000 US vs 1,000 Germans & the Germans won ffs!! What does that tell you?!?
"I think I smell Montgomery. By God it is Montgomery!"
Not really. Patton wasn't the type to dig in. He hated Market Garden precisely because he knew the marshlands of Belgium and the Netherlands would be in hospitable to tanks, plus the Germans could use the numerous small towns as perfect staging grounds for Guerrilla warfare. He also knew as the Germans did that route was the shortest route to Berlin and quickly moved to reinforce that line as opposed to stopping Patton lest he cross the Rhine.
Wtf
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"I think I smell Montgomery. By God it is Montgomery!" Needs a bar of soap?
@@THETexzilla Patton was a wanker that didn't give a shit about the men he commanded, he was an over rated, delusional fucktard, but you Yanks ain't known for your military skills though, you've yet to win a major conflict on your own!
I believe his actual quote was " Give me that 400,000 Gallons and I'll go through Europe like shit through a goose " This was Montgomery's memoir's
And he would have. But, stopping the V weapon assault on England was a priority mission.
And I make this statement as a avid admirer of Gen. Patton.
I’m pretty sure in the film, he said pain in the ass, not pain in the neck. This must be the sanitized Family Research Council version
Absolutely, this is the sanitized TV version. I saw the original movie in a theater. However, the family research council was not formed until 1983.
That line is in the movie, though not here. I forget where exactly it is.
I believe he actually said " Give me the men and material and I will go through Europe like shit through a goose, the first quote was a miss quote because that 400,000 gallons wasn't mentioned
Honestly, could anyone else other than George c Scott have played Patton? Absolutely bloody marvellous.
billt1954 Thing was Scott had second thoughts I read about taking the role. At first he thought Patton was just a basic right-wing military hawk but as Scott learned who he was portraying he realized Patton was a very complicated man that couldn’t be described so away so easily. But yeah, he nailed the role in legendary status. Even people who never seen or heard of this movie know the movies opening scene.
Ike's son, who knew Patton, said this film wasn't a great representation of him.
@@SamLemont Having heard a Patron speech I can understand that. Scott made him sound far more dramatic, for Hollywood.
Usually leftist actors love to play the right so they can make them look like lunatics. @@Rimasta1
The story I’ve heard is they first offered the lead to Rod Steiger who turned it down because he felt it was too right-wing, he chose to play Napoleon instead. They next tried Telly Savalas but he wanted too much money
" I think I smell Montgomery" lol
Ox van cool Why is that funny? Monty was a brilliant commander superseded due to American Greed. Britain was on its ass (despite holding out in a way that would've had most nations shitting it's pants) and we took full advantage. We leant our services in exchange for vast reparations. Paid off very recently (Britain had to suck up all manner of Nuclear bases in the 80's because of the post war deal) Patton and Eisenhower were short term thinkers, essentially poor military minds; elevated due to the American desire to appear as victors. America was late, just like with WW1, selfish and have taken credit ever since. We should be ashamed for pretending that 'We saved your ass.... etc. etc." Fuck private Ryan and Fuck Patton. America needs to grow up. I mean.... We just elected Trump! The world thinks we're retarded.... With damn good reason.
Mick G. The way he says it is halarous
Ox van cool I'll give you that. The film is amazing, Scott is amazing (forgotten the guy's name who was supposed to be Patton)
I have the same problem with Brit films which fail to give proper credit. Plus, it was a different age. I obviously had a hair across me arse that night.
My god it is Montgomery
"Monty was a brilliant commander"
Doesn't explain why he ignored intell around Arnhem having a SS Panzer Division and almost wiped out the British 1st Airborne Division from existence by assuming the Germans consisted of old men and young boys. Also foolish to think the war could of ended by Christmas just because of one gigantic thrust upwards. And he blatantly told the press that HE was the one responsible for countering the German offensive during the Battle of the Bulge. Eisenhower was right to never allow Monty to have another word at the table after the disaster that was Operation Market Garden. In fact, both he and Bradley had a good chuckle when Monty was furious that he was stopped by US Army MPs to check his identification card.
Patton's thrust down center to the River Rhine had the best chance of entering Germany. His army was literally beating the Germans to the pulp that they couldn't mount any effective counter attack. By rerouting his fuel and ammo supply to Monty's greatest failed operation, this allowed the Germans to reinforce the River Rhine's defenses to counter Patton's now depleted forces.
My grandfather was Patton's driver during the first part of the war. My grandfather then saved someones life by putting out a person who was on fire with his bare hands and got severely burned in the act and received the Soldiers Medal. Patton also rewarded him by making him a tank commander in the 10th armored division. At that time the 10th just got to a place called Bastogne. As long as my father could remember he always had a picture of Patton on his wall and my grandfather would salute it everyday.
The 10th are the often forgotten part of the defense of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge - often forgotten behind the legendary presence of the 101st in spite of the crucial value their tanks played in holding the lines. Hell, the 101st likely wouldn't have made it to Bastogne if it wasn't for the 10th holding the line
I smell cap
@@GiantsRTheBest1 cap?
bullshit
Wow your grandfather ripped out Dick Winters and Easy Company that’s fucking incredible
"I have a lot of faults . . . but ingratitide isn't one of them."
I think this line just changed my life very, very slightly.
Bradly, who was still alive during the making of Patton, had a heavy hand in shaping his own dialog (and perhaps that of Patton) in this scene. Patton was brilliant. Scott, as an actor, bring this remarkable character of history to life for generations to come. I don’t think we’ve seen any movie with such a dynamic and high spirited re-enactment of a 20th century leader.
@John Cornell Sounded nothing like Patton? What do you mean his voice? If that's the case reread scasy1960's comment she/he did not say that.
Patton’s son also became a US Army general in Armor. While stationed in W.Germany he became friends with Rommel’s son.
Holy shit
Apparently Rommel's son also became friends with Montgomery's son.
I hope that's true. Cuz I have no doubt in my mind the real Patton & Rommel would have been friends too, if either got the chance.
"I didn't pick you! Ike picked you." One the best dramatic scenes in the film, you can see Patton wilt (just) slightly when he realizes Bradley didn't ask for him.
I saw it differently, Bradley's frustrated speech was a back-handed compliment to Patton: he was telling Patton that the overall commander of both of them had chosen him.
My favorite of his quote is "If I had to choose between food or gas I will choose gas, my men can eat their belts but my tanks need fuel"
Eisenhower to Patton: "you are to bypass Trier because its heavily defended and will require at least 4 Divisions to capture"; Patton to Eisenhower: "have taken Trier with 2 Divisions; what do you want me to do, give it back?"
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"Old blood and guts"
Our blood
And his guts.
One of America's finest soldiers.
My grandfather said they all hated him.
@@michaelsaylor8425 he was a hardass, but by God, he got results.
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 you mean like this? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Force_Baum
@@michaelsaylor8425 So, patton was right about some of his soldiers........ pussies.
A pint of sweat saves a gallon of blood
Man, what a pair of actors these two were. Someone broke the mold when these two were born.
My mom was 2 years old in the town of Nierstein, Germany where Patton crossed the Rhine and his tanks rolled through. (In history books it's always called Oppenheim, an adjoining town.) My German grandparents told the story of a family that had a baby that was very ill and needed powdered milk. They luckily found a US lieutenant that spoke fluent German who got a doctor to look at the sick baby and gave powdered milk and medicine to them. Also, to this day my mom hates peanut butter given by the ton in US aid right after the war. Without the after effects of WW2 and the Vietnam War my Dad wouldn't have been drafted and stationed in then West Germany. Crazy how history affects each of us in personal ways directly, and indirectly.
My mother (she was 6 when the war ended) is the same, to this day she can't stand peanut butter for the same reason, it's all they had for a while after the war. She also remembers they only had cornmeal to cook bread with; a mix up with the translation over flour vs
Mais.
@@marcusdamberger I see why the mistranslation. Funny our shared history isn't it? My mom (who learned this from my Oma) is capable of making wonderful meals with very little. My German family visited quite often during the 70's and 80's. A few of them said they'd never go to the US but when they finally did they always would come back. My parents made friends with a number of other former GI's and their German wives they brought back with them. Lots of parties, fun times growing up.
Patton stopped and pissed into the Rhine river when he crossed it no lie . 😁
And the rhine did not care.
That's well known
captmitty,
Yeah, Patton was searching for his manhood as he battled SS panzer troups across Europe.
Umm.. don't you have a peaceful lil' riot to attend?
@@marcroche9324
1943 - fighting Germans in Africa, when they were weakened enough by Brits.
1944 - fighting second-grade German divisions with complete numerical, materiel and air superiority, while Germany already lost its best soldiers and German economy was already in its death throes.
1945 - fighting third-grade German divisions which were surrendering en-masse while the best available troops were sent East to stop Red Army from invading Germany.
Best general in the US history, folks.
Just pitiful.
@@thatdude3938 Hey “ that dude “ yea you.........what is the problem. Oh that’s right...you think Biden won and now it is time to bad mouth the great Patton.....Courts will decide the race and you can crawl back into mommy’s basement.
Imagine having a leader who gets the job done, but he has a personality that pisses people off. His strategies work, he does what he says, he fulfills his promises and he does what others fail to do. But, the way people take him becomes more important than anything he's accomplished. Imagine that.
My thoughts exactly. Foreshadowing of how todays army is run. Go along to get along. Joke.
Except with Trump, almost nothing he did actually worked. Idiots like you just choose to believe his lies. Take for instance the economy. Every Trump boot-licker like you thinks he improved it. You disregard 2020 (Covid was not Trumps doing) and then compare GDP growth over Trumps 3 years to Obama's last 4. It was almost identical....withing a few tenths of a %. All those lies about the best economy ever...but if you look at the actual GDP growth data....no real difference. Why? Because Trump did nothing policy wise that could have changed the economy.
Include 2020 and the Trump economy was the worst 4 years since the Great Depression!
If you're trying to find a WW2 figure that compares to our recent president, I think a certain thin skinned, racist, self promoting corporal who relied on nationalistic lies to stir up an ignorant base while turning the rest of the world against his nation might make a better comparison.
@@jaredjones7632 correct. The difference is the one who lived in Vienna was a LOT smarter than the more recent one.
I like this scene. The chemistry between Malden and Scott is excellent. You can almost feel the tension as though they were heading into Germany.
One of the TOP 5 acting performances in Motion Picture History. PERIOD.
George C. Scott played Patton great. I remember seeing this movie when it first came out. Patton was a Soldiers General. German s along with the Russians respected him as well his Men. I've always wanted to Visit his grave. 1 of America s Best General. R.I.P. Patton. We could use more like you now. Salute!
My favourite line was, after everyone else was humming and harring about supporting bastogne he says, "i can have 3 divisions there within 48hours" lolol total boss
The acting from both men is incredible. Two titans.
Scott was magnificent in this role. One of the very best old school war films.
lost in space 54 script written by Francis Ford coppola (godfather)
As movies go, this is less about war and a lot more about the man, in the same vein as Lawrence of Arabia. The war is almost incidental to both of them. That’s why George C. Scott is so good; because he takes it beyond being a war movie.
@@thethirdman225 Yes, I agree. A good observation👍
@@billt1954 Thanks
"George, you'd make a good traffic cop." Patton thinking * and brad, you'd make a good paperboy...*
George, you’d make a fine president.
@@davidthorp01 George S. Patton is a great Soldier, but would make a terrible politician. Because, Patton spoke his mind, and couldn't care less what other thought. A very rare trait of a General, let alone a Politician. Patton was indeed a great man, leader, and had one hell of a hindsight.
Too bad no one from his time could appreciate his honesty, dedication, and commitment to his beloved United States, his greater commitment to the Allied cause, to even worn Eisenhower about the Soviet threat.
Truly, the last ture lead from the front General.
Some guy Well, my joke wooshed a little now didn’t it?
The poster’s username is the first president’s name. I couldn’t not make the joke man. Although you make fair points on Gen. Patton’s martial skills.
@@davidthorp01 Thank you. I didn't realize your joking.
Patton is by far my favorite General of all time. Actually, he is my one and only favorite. He’s very smart, knows how to get morale to his soldiers and knows how to lead them is the reason why. And of course his tenacity to pursue the enemy when they’re at their weakest
Geesh- I remember watching this movie when I was a kid everytime it was on either channel 56 or channel 38 here in the Boston area. One of my favorite WW11 movies. The other ones they showed every few months were "Kelly's Heroes", "The Dirty Dozen", "The Great Escape", "The Longest Day", and "Tora, Tora, Tora." In my mind they still hold up as good entertainment. Those were the days when you had to read the TV guide to know what was coming up for the month . . . Darn kids with your gizmos. . . . I'm a grumpy old man!
Im glad that you enjoyed it sir!
World war eleven? What happened in the other 8???
favorite WWII* movies. World War II not World War 11 The second world war, not the eleventh.
Shit, We got Ww1 and 11 now, i don't even wanna know what happened in 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 and 10.
What’s this one called?
My grandfather on my Moms Side was with him in the 7th made it Southern France took a mortar round got patched up and was sent to Patrons 3rd and did the bulge and flexed into Germany liberating Buchenwald and Dachau. Im on total Awe and Respect of him and Patton. Thats why they are the greatest generation bar none hands down.
That will be $2.25 a gallon sir.
09rja. will. that. be
cash or credit. gorge
don" t forget your green stamps. 🐴
@Martin M Well that would still make it around $2 when adjusted for inflation.
Wilmer Sandström, don’t forget that America was the leading producer of fuel at that time and the government was taking over control of companies telling them what to produce.besides back then oil was so plentiful that it used to leak out of the ground. Back then a dollar was a dollar.
In 1944 money? I do believe Patton would have pistol whipped someone.
Bruh inflation
Gen.George S.Patton received orders to bypass the German city of Trier as it was estimated that 4 divisions would be needed for a successful assault ,but had already taken Trier by the time the message arrived. He responded, ' Have taken Trier with 2 divisions, do you want me to give it back?'
This command decision was known as " The Fuel Monty ".
I was fascinated to read Patton's book (actually his memoirs made into a book) "War as I Knew it". He was a very determined man who believed in not giving the opponent a minute to breath and the best way to achieve victory was to constantly apply pressure. The problem was that he fought the war with almost no consideration to the political considerations and that just didn't jive with the realities of the time. It's too bad in many ways because after having studied WWII for 20 years, I believe the war would have ended sooner AND the Western Allies would have been in Berlin before the Russians had they given priority to Patton in supply and support, rather than Montgomery's Market Garden. And a great many more people would have escaped nearly 50 years under communism in Europe.
Nailed it. I always advise everyone to read Patton, especially those most critical of him, that only know of his exploits through this film.
Market Garden really was a disaster
Instead of ending the war sooner, it probably cost a good chunk of Europe lost the communists
My Grandfather and great-uncle we're with Patton 3rd Army under the command of Patton
I was a babe in arms when US tankers rolled into Suhl in Thuringia. I wonder if they were Patton's lads.
Sometime circa late 90's/early 2000's, I interviewed Melvin Gainer. He served as a sniper under Patton. The general nicknamed him "Gainer the gunner".
"You expect Montgomery to do anything about it?" Patton knew that Montgomery was a failure.
I'll go to Berlin!!! Dude was insane!
He knew his stuff. Insanity and genius walk hand in hand, most of the time.
No way the American people would have tolerated the death toll...it would have cost millions of lives.
Churchill would have loved telling him about his idea for Operation Unthinkable, in which the US, British, French (snicker), German and Italian(laughs) would join together and attack the Russian forces if they refused to return to their countries boarders and stay there.
This probably would've started WW3 or would've extended the war for 2 to 4 more years draining the moral and resources of the Allied nations to the brink with the victory being a hollow one at the very best.
What death toll? The German death toll? Why would they worry about the German death toll? Ayyyyy.
No, the US command estimated that 100,000 US soldiers would die taking Berlin...they thought letting 100,000 Russians die taking it was a better idea.
This scene partially reflects actual events, with two exceptions. There were three allied Army Groups on the Western Front commanded by Montgomery, Bradley and Devers. Because of logistics problems, all three could not be supplied equally. Eisenhower was forced to shift supplies amongst the three Army Groups depending on circumstances. In September 1944, Eisenhower ordered Bradley's Army Group to halt while supplies were shifted to Montgomery's Army Group. This scene makes it appear that Bradley was comfortable with that decision. According to his memoir, "A Soldier's Story," Bradley was very much opposed to Eisenhower's action, apparently more so than Patton. Bradley wrote that they had the Germans on-the-run and they should keep the pressure on them and not let the Germans catch their breath. Eisenhower decided to supply Montgomery's Army Group because he promised to deliver a death-blow to the German war effort by crossing the lower Rhine (Operation Market-Garden) and capturing the industrial Rhur region before the onset of Winter. Overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary because the allies had command of the air and bombing the sites would eliminate the threat with quicker results and fewer casualties.
yeah, if we ever had a chance to 'end the war by christmas' it was by allowing patton to keep up the pressure instead of supplying that market garden debacle. but monty wanted his day in the sun and damn the quickest route to victory.
Patton was 100 miles from the Rhine, had overrun his supplies and faced none of the areas vital to Germany. Patton was also the furthest away from allied supply sources.
Far from Montgomery simply wanting a day in the sun he offered to subordinate 21st Army Group to Bradley provided a decision was made to advance on a narrow front.
The senior commanders: Bradley, Eisenhower and Montgomery discussed the merits of a broad front strategy or of a narrow thrust.
None of them favoured a narrow thrust in the South where Bradley's subordinate Patton was.
Thank you. finally someone who points out the facts that actually mattered in this decision amomg that media hyped garbage that usually gets thrown around as soon as this topic is brought up.
Pattons push virtually headed towards a dead end. Just take a map of germany and have a look on the terrain in this region an beyond - huertgen forrest was just a beginning. that area was ideal for the only respond the wehrmacht could have brought up at that time: stiff resistance in a wooden, hilly area where air support is severely hampered and sharp counteroffensives at a narrow front. Not the place to go if you were the allied army of 1944/45. Same goes to remagen and beyond btw. This also meant, that the broad front strategy at some time might have made sense to gain room for manouvers, but only until you came close to the rhine. from there on, it was clear that the way into germany would have to be somewhere in the north.
2. Montgomery wanted a narrow thrust in the north from the very beginning. In hindsight it seems that this indeed would have been the only chance to end the war before christmas (if there was any). The decision went otherwise (who said, that THAT one wasn't political, after all?) . Yes, contrary to all battle plans Montgomery made prior and afterwards - Market Garden was made in a haste and contained many faults - but it wasn't such a defeat as it's often portrayed - it just didn't achieve the most optimistic objectives it would have had to to secure entrance into germany before winter 1944/45. All in all, one could easily look at the whole story about a possible narrow push to the north from this perspective: chances to end the war by 1944 were little, they were hampered further by political decisions and detourment of troops+resources to lesser important operations. An desperate attempt was made to reach out for it but it failed for this time. Try to think of what the story for a possible push south would have been.
Finally a few words about some gentlemen's remark that Patton was "keeping up the pressure": the german army - or the remnants there of - were in full retreat into germany on the WHOLE front. They - if at all - only attempted to delay the allied advance with minimum resistance. I read articles praising patton for his quick advances, gaining some 80 kilometres of area in a single day - and when I took a map and checked the general advances of that day, 21st Army made good very much the same space in the same time as did Patton or Bradley, simply because the Germans were on the run. If you want a honest comparison, look at Pattons perfromance once he actually faced an enemy that was not already thrown out of balance by someone else but was instead waiting for his attack in well prepared positions (a thing, Montgomery had to cope with more than once). If Patton could not avoid this situation and either go around such an obstacle or leave it to someone else to crack the nut he didn't perform exeptionally well actually...
33VMUH
'Overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary because the allies had command of the air and bombing the sites would eliminate the threat with quicker results and fewer casualties.' Your words.
The V2 was impossible stop in flight and the chances hitting one its mobile launch sites were extremely slim. With the Germans launching missiles from built up areas the chances of avoiding civilian casualties were slight.
Almost 33,000 British civilians were killed or wounded by these attacks, quite apart huge amounts of collateral damage. Thousands of British Servicemen could see V weapons being launched in The Netherlands.
So don't come on here with a half baked claim that overrunning V-1 and V-2 launching sites by ground forces was unnecessary.
Unlike you, Old-timer, I did not experience WWII first-hand. I was born after the war. So I defer to your version of events as you obviously experienced them first-hand.
"I think I smell Montgomery ..."
Said while standing by cow manure ...
Americans highly overrate themselves and under value what monty did, he was just as important to the allied victory as patton was, without monty patton wouldn’t have been to do some of the things he did
Sabrina Dugan true but i never said the us was useless or anything nor did i say the uk didnt need them. Something you do forget tho is that the british won the battle of britain. There was no direct threat from invasions.
I like this Patton. Patton thinks for himself. A born leader not follower. Dangerous and man of action and results.
I got chills
When the general said,”
“YoU GIVE ME 400,000 gallons I’LL GO TO BERLIN”
I was thinking it would’ve been Another SHERMANS MARCH TO THE SEA!!!!
Didn't see a single Sherman in the clip Looked like mostly M24 Chaffees
No. The Germans would have counterattacks and destroyed or bad damaged his forces. The Allies were essentially fighting the B- Team in the West. Maybe I'm reading this wrong.
Sherman’s March to the sea pt 2
my god some people didn't learn about the Civil War in gradeschool huh?
400,000 gallons wouldn't have come close. Would need way more.
We need more Pattons!
Patton is the kind of man who makes you forget you are dying for Patton.
if you agree with patton you agree we fought the wrong enemy
@@bubblegumgun3292 We did fight the wrong enemy. The real enemy got to sit at the victory table after the war with us.
@@jebbroham1776 The Russians? Yes, they were an enemy after the war.
You can thank FDR for there spot at the table.
Bradley and Patton are hell good a Field Commanders, Legendary.
Pattons real voice is the total opposite of George Scott.
But for the movie’s purposes it is so much better.
Oh yeah. Patton would have KILLED to have had George C. Scott's voice!
Wish we had more like him today.
BRILLIANT performance by George C Scott in a pivotal scene.
Operation Market Garden - what a great reason to slow Patton Down.
See: A Bridge Too Far - for what it was all about.
Ike should have fired both Montgomery and Boy Browning for poor performance during Market-Garden. Unfortunately Ike let politics get the get the better of him.
@Dan Gurău Wow, glad you let me know about that.
@HoneyBadgerAirsoft there were a lot of things going wrong. Not the least of which was the Dutch resistance had been infiltrated before and the information considered unreliable (which included not driving on the easily flankable road)
@@stuglenn1112 never would of happened. Churchill would of escalated the situation above ikes head. Not to mention that people have rewritten history to put the blame on Monty. Ike had to look over and approve of the market garden plans which means he also believed the plan would work. Therefore he shares blame for the cock up
I think Market Garden was a good idea in practice but the British army got caught up in all the excitement of potentially reaching Berlin first and before Christmas, and made many brutal organisational and strategic mistakes. It's only down to the exemplary performance of the airborne troops that it even made any gains at all.
Bradley and Ike were political generals. Patton was a fighting general.
And in this Film Bradley was an advisor, who over promoted how close he was with Patton. Because Patton was a real fighting General and his fame would pass the test of time. While Bradley was a yes man, who paled in comparison to Pattons abilities and knowledge on warfare.
It took both. Part of the success of D-Day was due to the fact the Germans were convinced Patton would lead it, and therefore didn't commit all their troops at Normandy.
Leahy was THE political Admiral of WW2. You need both, like it or not.
I think you confuse "political" with administrative excellence. Two very different skills. The ability to organize and administrate while viewing the big picture is what made Ike so valuable. Ability on the battle field is an altogether different thing. Yes, political finesse is certainly part of the job. It has always been part of the job for thousands of years.
Patton was the man!!
He thought so. Well that and until he actually met some opposition in a forest.
Are you referring to the Battle of the Bulge? Because that was on Bradley's front.
dfadg sadfga He was sent off on a huge loop west In Normandy and then west. Althoughn the logistics were inspired and clearly helped the rapid progress, the fact Patton faced almost no opposition was also key. The Hurtgen forest. Americans often complain about other Allied Commanders and their cautious approach. Unlike Patton they had been through WW1 and a deep sense of the need to preserve life in war, unlike Patton.
WRONG he predicted the German assault!
William DuFour Correction, he was your man and mediocre.
It's important to remember that Bradley's memoir was a major source for this movie, which explains a lot of why it portrays Bradley as a common soldier's general and Patton as his worst stereotypes. Patton was far from perfect, but a lot of the negative behaviors that the movie attributes to him were in reality far more commonly exhibited by Bradley. The movie leaves glosses over those traits for Bradley but not for Patton due to the source material.
One of the big mistakes of the Normandy campaign and breakout was the failure to prioritize Antwerp, Belgium as a port. Antwerp and the Scheldt estuary were not fully cleared of mines and German troops until mid-December, 1944. The earlier clearing of Antwerp might have made a signficant difference as a forward shipping base for supplies like fuel, ammunition, winter gear/supplies etc. The long trail from the Normandy beacheads in August-September, 1944 stretch back some 400 miles to the Belgian, Luxemburg, Holland and eastern French frontier. The Monty Arnham-Nijmegan fiasco with airborne troops was an ill concieved venture doomed to fail. It was stupid strategy to think one northern pincer attack through Holland across seven bridges and the Rhine river would have ended the war early. The German Wehrmacht were good at bouncing back with resetting infantry divisions and armored units quickly with infantry replacements, guns, ammo and equipment to make a stand.
So the goal should have been Antwerp, Belgium. Ike could have ordered all Allied divisions to form hedgehogs until Antwerp was cleared too in strong defenisve positions for winter months of December, January and early February. Antwerp, Belgium could have been supplied for the breakout to cross the Rhine in early 1945. A defensive pause in a well entrenched hedgehog with forward outposts would have given American and British infantry divisions time to resupply for winter, train replacements and sit out the worst winter weather when fog and storms limited close air support. I think this plan would have been very doable to resist any German offensive or counterattack. Hedgehogs can be made up of Corps or several divisions with outposts. The artillery and armor are mostly kept within the hedgehog to form a 360 degree perimeter with outposts of minefields, pillboxes and antitank positions covering roadnetworks to and from the hedgehog area.
Whoa! It's 2020, and I just realized something (of master-class cinema) that I'd not noticed in 50 years: Bradley *grows* in this shot -- a good 12"-15". In the beginning, Patton is a good head taller than Bradley. By 0:40 (as they're discussing logistics and Bradley needing to reign Patton in), Patton has not moved, while Bradley, as he approaches, gains height. At 0:43, Bradley has the advantage -- in height *and* in the conversation. And for most of what follows, Bradley's "standing" remains above that of the leadership-acknowledging Patton. Very cool. I would've loved to have listened in as that shot was being set up.
My Dad flew 35 missions in his B-24 over Germany. One of those missions was to supply Patton with fuel. On this "Milk Run" his aircraft, :Honey Gal", flew over the ONLY remaining German AA unit in the area.. The aircraft received damage to the extent that all hydraulic systems were ndamaged. The pilot brought the plane back to England but could not risk a crash landing with all the fuel on board. Everyone bailed out and Honey Gal crashed in the farm lands nearby.
No.
Great film, great film. Just watched this last night. I love this film.
Patton was screwed over way too many times.
No...it's like the Omar told him...he just couldn't shut his mouth.
He screwed himself over half the time, the other half someone screwed him over
He was screwed over by the Russians to who crashed into his jeep outside berlin
Jacob Stewart ...even in the 40’s the Media Sucked. Got George into trouble time and again, with trick questions.
@@dobermanpac1064 In the words of Nathan R. Jessup....you can't handle the truth.
“I have just pissed into the Rhine River. For God’s sake, send some gasoline.” - Gen. Patton
There would have been no Battle of the Bulge if Patton had been allowed to proceed.
Great scene from a great film. Thanks for posting this footage.
it's the man who doesn't know when to shut up who says what needs to be said
Hank Hill voice....
“I tell ya what, if George C Scott was a general, the war would have ended sooner, you know what.”
Should have converted his tanks to propane and had Strickland propane supply the 3rd Army.
Man, this was one of the most iconic scenes I remember clearly from the movie from when I was a kid to an adult.
The whole Cold War would have been very different had George been given his 400,000 gallons.
notnecessarily- we weren't login to brute force our way into berlin; nobody but patton even contemplated that-we were away going t o give that task to russians and let them take the 360,000 casualties...afetr the bulge we realized that nazis on the defensive in homeland were not to be trifled with. That said after Third army licked a serious German counterattack at Arracourt, patton could easily have pushed said the complacent german thinking they, rather than Ike/Monty, stopped Patton. and consider-if peptone had broken through Siegfried lien before it was organized/manned, germans would probably have not shifted as many troops to eastern front, allowing them to a dance quicker. Its quite possible he ultimate zones of occupation would have been further west, not east, had patton pushed,succeded andtheratened berlin.
Scotts performance is magnificent .
Soundtrack ,performances perfect
"Hell I know I'm a prima-donna.. I admit it! But what I can't stand about Montgomery is he won't admit it!"
Me: Gets a huge fat grin because it hits I can relate to this sentiment 💯 😂
There was those war movies that every goddamn tank is a goddamn
Patton.
Feel free to remake it with period authentic tanks/planes/equipment, and let me know what your budget is. They filmed it in 1969 in Spain with the equipment they could use. It's a commercial movie not a documentary. If it was a documentary they would have had to find a lead actor with a squeaky voice.
I have to say that if Patton and the US army had entered Berlin before the Red Army, that would have made my day.
It'd have made the Germans' day, as well. Less raping and murder from the Red Army.
The lighting on this classic scene is the stuff of dreams.
"George you make a good traffic cop." *chuckles*
I think the funniest thing Gen. Patton ever did was this: When he was military governor of Barvaria, he was trying to get the German P.O.W's to invade Russia again and get rid of Stalin. Gen. Eisenhower found out and had Patton in his office at attention. He gave him a thorough "pow wow" for that stunt. Patton was all balls back then.
Is this real fact or an old joke?
@@Andras_Schiff As it turned out, the USSR did get strong - so strong it got brittle and crumpled.
Patton was all balls to the very end! If only he didn't die in that stupid car accident...
My grandfather was an officer in charge of several supply depots of the Red Ball Express Durring WW II. He had orders from Gen Eisenhower to give to Patton when he came in demanding butts. He handed the Gen the paper with the orders on it. When supplies were diverted for Operation Market-Garden. Only story he ever told me about the war. That was after watching this in the movie. He passed away in June 2018 at 98 years of age. He did say as much of a rage as the Gen was in he took the paper read the orders and just left. He took his orders.
One of the TOP 5 acting performances in Motion Picture History.
George made it to
Berlin and obtained the spear of destiny which now sits in the Smithsonian warehouse next to the ark and king tut’s gold.
I thought the Ark of the covenant was 30 ft.under Golgotha.
The Russians did get there first. I wonder how he pulled it off.
mark merzweiler to hitlers bunker yes. But Patton arrived in Berlin as they arrived at the bunker
@Alexander Caine Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Not quite. The Spear of Destiny was held, along with a number of other historical artefacts, in a series of fortified cellars under Nuremberg Castle for safe-keeping. Nuremberg fell on the 20th of April 1945, at the hands of XV Corps, part of General Jacob Devers' 6th Army Group. After the war, in August 1945, these artifacts were tracked down by medieval studies scholar Walter Horn, who had served under Patton during the war.
Not long afterwards, researchers in Vienna used x-ray testing, among other methods, which determined that the lance dated from the 8th or 9th century, ruling out a connection with the events of the 1st century. The spear now resides in the Hofburg Museum in Vienna.
It's nice they had colour cameras and happened to be filming this little interaction
...and Patton's strategy was right... his entire strategy was right / correct... he was stopped by politics and media... let that sink in...
The Patton Drinking Game: Every time Karl Malden says "George" take a chug.
No wonder Hitler nicknamed Gen Patton as "The Crazy Cowboy General"
In whose memoir?
Source for that claim?
Patton personally shot 3 of poncho villas men...now that's what I call border control.
Never seen that claim before, where did you read it ?
Idk if any of you googled it or just asked for a citation then forgot, but I think I found one. www.coursehero.com/file/p28kd78h/Hitler-called-Patton-what-translates-to-that-crazy-cowboy-general-To-prepare/
They don't make 'em like that any more. Movies, or generals.
Like you've ever met a general
Modern generals: shark attack scary, pls remove
I've met a few generals during my T.I.S. and they were all very well educated professionals. Their downfalls were letting politics have a part in determining their decisions but that has been the case since the beginning of that rank, so I do not see a what the fuss is about.
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf was the closest we got to another Patton. I still remember watching his "Luckiest man in Iraq" press conference.
I dont know a whole lot about him but General Mattis could almost be compared to a modern Patton.
Best war movie ever made. I believe George C. Scoot gave one of the most actuate portrayals of an historical figure in any movie I have seen.
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bradley and patton have such a great love hate relationship in that film.
Imagine if Patton and Rommel working Together
Rommel would be exasperated by Patton's lack of speed and initiative. Or so said Hermann Balck.
It would be like transformers.
Rommel was my favourite.
Rommel wasnt even the best blitzkrieg general... Guderian was truly scary.
TheJD Someone get Sabaton on the phone
Patton once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King. And he got it.
That's impossible, unless your talking about Patton's son. who also became a US Army general. Both McDonald's and Burger King were not around, before George Patton died in Germany.
We need a few Pattons in today's army!!
"b-but they'll see the big board!"
"Baby, I told you never to call me. "My president needs me. "Of course it's not just physical; one day I'm gonna make you MRS. Buck Turgeson. "Hey Shuge, don't forget to say your prayers" (Looks up to the President Muffley with a straight face).
Patton: Give me 400,000 gallons
MacArthur: Give me 55 nukes
"The line is an empty shell!"
T95: am a I joke to you?
Logistics: yes. Yes you are
Boomers watch this and reminisce about George Patton.
I watch this and reminisce about George C. Scott.
Among the finest actors of the 20th century
I think Scott had made his last landmark performance before I saw any of them, but yes, he was something else. Loved him as Gen. Buck Turgidson.
Btw, "Boomer" is derived from 'post-war baby boom', so Boomers are incapable of reminiscing about Patton. But they certainly can reminisce about Scott, and I'm sure they do.
He also said at the end of the war that we fought the wrong enemy. He was right.
Nope. If there is anything to be learned from playing Doom: Kill the monster in the first room. Otherwise you advance to the next room and now you have 2 monsters, one behind you and one in front of you.
@Jason York Well the monster that would win would also get all the manpower and industry of the monster that lost making it an even bigger threat than before
"WE DEFEATED THE WRONG ENEMY!" Patton was murdered for speaking the truth
Patton Gained rank riding over the same men he fought along side with in WW1 ..(Bonus war) him and MacArthur Both false heros that cost more lives due to igorance...I shall return really ment I failed at my reason of being here
@Leo Peridot I don't know if we really won a battle But i served in the Kosovo war And was apart of 678 combat sorties. Again in Afghanistan From defensive roles to resupplying food And goods to afgahani people And a wide list of family members that fought in Korea WW2 WW1as far back as record would show King william leaving Normandy to take his throne Or the Norsemen that invaded France And made "Normandy" home.......That being said You don't have to fight in a battle to see these two men for what they were before the break of WW2 America displays the Hero And his right reason While hiding his faults and failures Patton used men like meat shields And knew his tanks were not designed to take on tigers and panthers And 88mm cannons He knowingly push them forward to flush out the Germans for another wave of Shermans And Americans to fight MacArthur was given a heads up to prepare for attacks on the Philippines weeks before it happen He sat on his hands and done nothing In fact When pearl harbor was attacked he was just going home to sleep After along day of golf ............So tell me you History fact of diffrence
@Leo Peridot That's quite the history If it makes you feel better I only get A retired veterans pay of $1,246 per month since i was 39 with $1,171.85 per month from compensation. And 2hrs off my job now with pay out of a 8hr day due to a Bad neck injury From a car crash while on base..: ) I think i might of been in a Old navy store once Looking for flip flops on the way to a place called Boracay
Yes he was since communism was kosher from the beginning and guess who owns the media the same tribe. Katyn forest massacre was done by the communists and the US media blamed Germany, it did not come out till after the Berlin wall fell that the truth was told. Russia built some of the concentration camps after the war.
Living on a Dollar that’s not Patton’s fault. He fought with what he had. How a war is fought doesn’t matter as much as who’s left standing.
14 years ago and youtube decided to recommend this to me, wonderful.
Patton was the best God put him here for a time and purpose
What a crock.
I wrote a paper on this man and he I by far one of the best Generals in the history of the world. Tanks were actually his idea. Google it.
What no
the brits invented the tank
@@Caysari sorry. But Patton was putting armor and mounting guns to jeeps when he was fresh from West Point.
"Patton". Came out in 1970, I believe. It's worth watching.
That was only 25 years after the war. Doubt revisionist hollyweird would give him even close to a fair shake now. They would have him played by John Goodman and dressing in ladies clothes.
God I loved George C Scott.
My dad was in Patton's division in WW2. Came into camp once, sure enough standing up in a Jeep with pearl handled revolvers.
By the end of war, Patton realized we fought the wrong enemy.
@@tommyatkins2527 right maybe if more people were stuck in the past then London wouldn't be Muslim majority
@@tommyatkins2527 liberal soy spotted! 😂
George C. Scott has a better "war voice" than the real Patton did!
My Great-great grandpa (or some other distant relative which I can't quite remember off the top of my head) served under Patton, he was in the same group as Audie Murphey. He was in North Africa and went through the invasion of Sicily and Anzio, I really wish I could have met him, I only know these stories from my grandpa.
But one story that I remember excessive details about was one from when he was in North Africa. It was before the German forces were expelled, he and the rest of his unit would spend most of the time on perimeter patrol, especially at night. Every so often command would let them know that some reinforcements from Ethiopia would be coming through on specific days (most of the time at night). So he and his buddies (and the rest of the guys who had to do night patrols) would try their damnedest to even SEE one of them, but they never did. And whenever they would get back to their barracks they would look at their helmet and count the number of hash marks, each one from an Ethiopian soldier who walked right by them, close enough to mark their helmets.
He said that he and the guys could hear the German entrenchments scream in the night.
One day, when they came through during the day, he said to one of them "I'll give you ten American Dollars (around $150 in modern money) if you can get me a pair of German officer's boots." and with a blank face he said "Tomorrow when you rise, you will have them". The next morning, at the foot of his bunk, were a pair of shiny black German officer's boots. There was just one problem with them, the officer's feet were still in them.
The thing we can all learn from Pattons life is this...
... WEAR A DAMN SEATBELT!!!
Bad news but he didn't die for lack of a seat belt, but lack of a headrest. He was tall, and without the headrest to absorb the shock he broke his neck.
Me: Im bored.
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Wow, you should be a script writer in Hollywood.