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It’s interesting. The new buzzer was operational for 10 months. Wagner had launched their attack on Ukraine at about the same time. Now, after the failed coup, where Prigozhin effectively said he’s going rogue from the MoD but still fighting Ukraine, the new buzzer’s stopped. It’s hard not to think there’s at least some connection.
In the days of rented TVs a pin through the coax would cause a service call to be requested, then a guy disguised as a technician would repossess the set.
I'd love to see a video speculating on the circuitry used to create the tones for these channel markers. One thing I've noticed about the newer ones is they're pretty simple, whereas the original buzzer has a more complex tonal form to it; in it's weird unsettling way.
Most likely fundamentally a simple system of oscillators, transistors and other components to shape the sinewave, and then other components to mandate multiple tones, and finally an amplifier.
@@johnwetzel6200Definitely not, well the chances of that being operated via a battery is low. This is multiple megawatts to transmit a strong signal throughout russia, and mostly sensible electrical engineering would mean that the busy tone transmitter would be on the same power source as the amp and source of the signal.
@@johnwetzel6200 Other than a portable microphone, it would be quite unviable to transmit busy tones through battery 24/7, wouldn’t it? Edit: if someone could connect a precise spectrum analyser, or an oscilloscope to a receiver on that band, then they could potentially see if there are 50 or 100 hz frequencies imposed on the transmission which could mildly increase the chance of finding the power source of the busy tone generator.
Not connected with the Buzzer, but channel markers in General. There is some kind of marker that is stated as Russian on 13572.50 kHz. It's in the form of two identical pitch tones ,one short and one slightly longer. .Have been listening to it tonight but there's large blocks of what could be radar interface drowning everything out
My thought process is that maybe the buzzer switched over to a backup broadcast system, possibly because the primary one got damaged somehow... that would explain why it went away, then came back quieter
I actually know what is this - this is just a ham radiostation that was made by some radiohams that were talking on uvb in the beginning in 2022. This could be confirmed by the callsigns in one of the The SWL channel's video (The Buzzer/UVB-76(4625Khz) January 20th, 24th, 25th + pirate message on 22nd 2022 Voice messages - time codes are 3:35, 4:08 and 4:33, almost same callsigns were in one of the messages on 4612)
It was your introduction to number stations that has got me doing radio comparisons. Looking forward to my first SW radio at the end of the month. Thank you for this report.
Great video, Lewis. I noticed this signal had disappeared a few nights ago - I was recording 'ice cream van music' jamming UVB-76 4625 kHz at the time! 73 Clint
Have been hearing the buzzer on 4625Khz in Australia just before grey line in our early mornings at 20:00 UTC. Quite audible on a 90ft end fed long wire most mornings. Have not heard a Monolith yet. No sign of the new buzzer, and this video explains why. Thanks again Lewis.
Excellent as ever Ringway. Of greater interest is who will get to 100k subscribers first? You or Autoshenanigans? Either way you both deserve the following you have built up.
I have some interesting theories on this stuff. First off, the two transmitter theory of the original buzzer is absolutely confirmed, there are clips showing one dropping off and being replaced by the other. One is commonly called the "fax machine" for the ticks between buzzes, and the original more powerful signal which has a problem of the automatic gain control being unlimited, which brings the background noise up to full volume. So when you hear that one buzz, you can hear the audo rising just before the buzz, it lowers back down during the buzz, and then builds up again just before the next buzz. When messages are passed, you can usually hear the background noise of the audio system as a forceful hum, this is just the gain control taking it to the absolutely maximum. My theory for the buzzers is fairly simple; Very basic receiver setups spread around the world can relay back (via internet, phone calls, faxes...) reception reports with times and signal levels. With this propagation can be calculated. So if you want to send a message to the Americas, example, then you have all of this data that tells you exactly when it will work. If you have a real time feedback (receiver that sends back signal reports automatically) then you can pass the messages only when the signal is good. You would do this so that actual receiver of the messages is not known, cannot be identified or triangulated, as they are receive only. Further, and much more fun, is that Soviet embassies could be a collection point, where monitoring stations report their signal levels, and then the traffic back to Russia is encoded in with all their other stuff, making it very difficult to figure out what is what. The recent increase in messages on the buzzer over the last 45 days matched up very well to the Russian nuclear warships taking a tour to Cuba. As they might want to send messages when they are more likely to hear them, it is also more likely that they are sending messages in times when us listeners can actually hear them. 4612 I suspect was set up mostly related to the heavy, heavy jamming that had been occuring with the main buzzer. There has been a pretty long run with all types of jammers making it much harder to operate. I would suspect that some of those pirates were leading to false signal reports that might encourage messages to be sent when they would not actually be received by the targets, due to a false signal report. As a result, the buzzer did some fairly serious things including long broadcasts of CIS-12 trash messages intended to make the pirates less audible, and to make it difficult to do waterfall graffiti. As the pirate situation did calm down, it appears the have dropped the need for the backup frequency. The frequency being very close to the main buzzer also plays into the signal report concept, as there would be similar propagation. I find these odd frequencies to use for local communication, which is why I have always felt them to be intended for longer distances. While Wagner is an obvious use case, I am not sure that a transmitter near Moscow as an example would give them good coverage most of the time.
It would not be surprising to find connections between 4612 and Wagner. It would also not be surprising to find out that perhaps it was transmitting from Rostov-on-Don, and was disabled during the initial moments of the coup. It could also have been anywhere in that region. It seems reasonable to assume it's rise and demise are entirely related to internal actions in Russia. The new pip is much more interesting in my mind. it suggests quite solidly that these HF stations are an important part of the Russian military / spy process even to this day, as they feel the need to add new ones. If they were just cold war leftovers, they would be just letting them slow die off, not expanding them.
There have been echoes reported occasionally, but those appear and disappear as propagation conditions change. If this is the newer buzzer that I’m thinking if that people were talking about on the Twente webSDR site, then it was too consistent for it to have been an echo of the old station.
So, I tried to G mail myself a link to your story about "the thing", that capacitive resistance style eavesdropping device embedded in a wooden carving of the Presidential Seal, and its just gone. Can you throw that one back up?
A theory i came across is it was related to a reorganized of the Russian military in the western region (i think splitting it back up?). A new marker for a new region makes sense.
Channel marker? Who are you making it for? To ensure its clear when you want to use it... All you are doing is telling any would be jammer what channel to jam. To mark the channel and tell your enemy what channel you intend to use? To mark the channel and tell your friends what channel you intend to use? They should already know, they are the ones getting the transmission. There are reasons why others have appeared in recent months. You really should look into how their military operates in relation to their laws. You havent debunked the dead mans trigger at all... Its just being said in the wrong way.
@FixitFrank >>>> I wouldn't be so sure, yes Russia is a little short of cash (war costs large sums of money - it's winning hands down with a 1 to 7 kill rate Ukrainian) but as it's run on the 'gold standard' so with inflation the more money you got on top of the high value of the rouble. It's doing better than most people think.
@@gettogo0159 LOL, Okay bot. Its not. Its being crushed by Ukraine. Literally crushed. almost 300K dead russans. youre spewing nonsense. one ruble equals one penny. thats terrible. You're either delusional or a bot SLAVA UKRAINI
@@FixitFrankbruh stop calling everything you don't like russian propaganda, a what he says is true, nfkrz explained the rouble to usd ratio a couple months ago
Love ya videos and I hope you get 100k by the end of the month! My callsign is M7DOJ and you have inspired me to get into amateur radio because it is weird, fun and also cool! Once again, love ya vids and thx.
The Shortwave Stations Of The North Korean Defectors
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Ep.1 Coming Soon
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The Not So Secret Short Wave Numbers Stations Of North Korea
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It’s interesting. The new buzzer was operational for 10 months. Wagner had launched their attack on Ukraine at about the same time. Now, after the failed coup, where Prigozhin effectively said he’s going rogue from the MoD but still fighting Ukraine, the new buzzer’s stopped.
It’s hard not to think there’s at least some connection.
now he’s dead
It's alright folks, I sorted it out. Went over to Vlad's house and hammered a framing nail through his feed line. He'll get the message.
Now that, is how you put the hammer down.
Sic Semper Lids
The old drawing pin through the coax trick 😆😜
In the days of rented TVs a pin through the coax would cause a service call to be requested, then a guy disguised as a technician would repossess the set.
Thank you Comrade.
I'd love to see a video speculating on the circuitry used to create the tones for these channel markers. One thing I've noticed about the newer ones is they're pretty simple, whereas the original buzzer has a more complex tonal form to it; in it's weird unsettling way.
Well the pitch goes down after it starts so my guess would be it runs from a battery
Most likely fundamentally a simple system of oscillators, transistors and other components to shape the sinewave, and then other components to mandate multiple tones, and finally an amplifier.
@@johnwetzel6200Definitely not, well the chances of that being operated via a battery is low. This is multiple megawatts to transmit a strong signal throughout russia, and mostly sensible electrical engineering would mean that the busy tone transmitter would be on the same power source as the amp and source of the signal.
@@FemboyEngineer they're broadcasting it through an open mic. I would not at all be surprised for it to be a portable unit.
@@johnwetzel6200 Other than a portable microphone, it would be quite unviable to transmit busy tones through battery 24/7, wouldn’t it? Edit: if someone could connect a precise spectrum analyser, or an oscilloscope to a receiver on that band, then they could potentially see if there are 50 or 100 hz frequencies imposed on the transmission which could mildly increase the chance of finding the power source of the busy tone generator.
That wierd ham squelchy filtered bassline during credits is killer!
It's from the TV series "people just do nothing" I think
Not connected with the Buzzer, but channel markers in General. There is some kind of marker that is stated as Russian on 13572.50 kHz. It's in the form of two identical pitch tones ,one short and one slightly longer. .Have been listening to it tonight but there's large blocks of what could be radar interface drowning everything out
The timing on the change is certainly intriguing.
My thought process is that maybe the buzzer switched over to a backup broadcast system, possibly because the primary one got damaged somehow... that would explain why it went away, then came back quieter
I actually know what is this - this is just a ham radiostation that was made by some radiohams that were talking on uvb in the beginning in 2022. This could be confirmed by the callsigns in one of the The SWL channel's video (The Buzzer/UVB-76(4625Khz) January 20th, 24th, 25th + pirate message on 22nd 2022 Voice messages - time codes are 3:35, 4:08 and 4:33, almost same callsigns were in one of the messages on 4612)
It was your introduction to number stations that has got me doing radio comparisons. Looking forward to my first SW radio at the end of the month. Thank you for this report.
Great video, Lewis. I noticed this signal had disappeared a few nights ago - I was recording 'ice cream van music' jamming UVB-76 4625 kHz at the time! 73 Clint
Great job 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
"The simplest explanation is the most likely". Also known as the principle of "Occam's Razor".
Have been hearing the buzzer on 4625Khz in Australia just before grey line in our early mornings at 20:00 UTC.
Quite audible on a 90ft end fed long wire most mornings. Have not heard a Monolith yet.
No sign of the new buzzer, and this video explains why. Thanks again Lewis.
Excellent as ever Ringway. Of greater interest is who will get to 100k subscribers first? You or Autoshenanigans? Either way you both deserve the following you have built up.
Cheers Phil! Looking like Jon will hit first
The real reason the new buzzer disappeared is because they said "Fellas, that RW-M guy is on to us".
Very interesting. Many thanks for bringing this to our attention!
I have some interesting theories on this stuff.
First off, the two transmitter theory of the original buzzer is absolutely confirmed, there are clips showing one dropping off and being replaced by the other. One is commonly called the "fax machine" for the ticks between buzzes, and the original more powerful signal which has a problem of the automatic gain control being unlimited, which brings the background noise up to full volume. So when you hear that one buzz, you can hear the audo rising just before the buzz, it lowers back down during the buzz, and then builds up again just before the next buzz. When messages are passed, you can usually hear the background noise of the audio system as a forceful hum, this is just the gain control taking it to the absolutely maximum.
My theory for the buzzers is fairly simple; Very basic receiver setups spread around the world can relay back (via internet, phone calls, faxes...) reception reports with times and signal levels. With this propagation can be calculated. So if you want to send a message to the Americas, example, then you have all of this data that tells you exactly when it will work. If you have a real time feedback (receiver that sends back signal reports automatically) then you can pass the messages only when the signal is good.
You would do this so that actual receiver of the messages is not known, cannot be identified or triangulated, as they are receive only. Further, and much more fun, is that Soviet embassies could be a collection point, where monitoring stations report their signal levels, and then the traffic back to Russia is encoded in with all their other stuff, making it very difficult to figure out what is what.
The recent increase in messages on the buzzer over the last 45 days matched up very well to the Russian nuclear warships taking a tour to Cuba. As they might want to send messages when they are more likely to hear them, it is also more likely that they are sending messages in times when us listeners can actually hear them.
4612 I suspect was set up mostly related to the heavy, heavy jamming that had been occuring with the main buzzer. There has been a pretty long run with all types of jammers making it much harder to operate. I would suspect that some of those pirates were leading to false signal reports that might encourage messages to be sent when they would not actually be received by the targets, due to a false signal report. As a result, the buzzer did some fairly serious things including long broadcasts of CIS-12 trash messages intended to make the pirates less audible, and to make it difficult to do waterfall graffiti. As the pirate situation did calm down, it appears the have dropped the need for the backup frequency. The frequency being very close to the main buzzer also plays into the signal report concept, as there would be similar propagation.
I find these odd frequencies to use for local communication, which is why I have always felt them to be intended for longer distances. While Wagner is an obvious use case, I am not sure that a transmitter near Moscow as an example would give them good coverage most of the time.
Happy to have caught it :)
Truly appreciate your posts. Learned so much. Wish you could have heard HF in the 60's, 70's too. Strange days...
73,
N5NWI, Vancouver, WA, USA
Right now I can hear the buzzer on 4625 kHz very strong here in Germany. 4770kHz is another strong type of buzzer as well. @ 0:30 UTC
4770 is "The Alarm"
@@grandpapipermike2921 the alarm sounds alarming, who comes up with these names? We should rename it because it doesn't have a snooze button 🤣
@@n1vca LOL
Should be called the Wagner Buzzer since it was probably PMC Wagner until the rebellion, then Russian MOD probably seized it.
😂
@@dharmadovewhats so funny? It is not a very complex system to run even north Korea can run this 😅😊
And, "when the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas."
That first ariel shot lewis looked more like milton keynes.have a good weekend boss
Careless smoking is very dangerous. I wonder if it has anything to do with that?
It would not be surprising to find connections between 4612 and Wagner. It would also not be surprising to find out that perhaps it was transmitting from Rostov-on-Don, and was disabled during the initial moments of the coup. It could also have been anywhere in that region. It seems reasonable to assume it's rise and demise are entirely related to internal actions in Russia.
The new pip is much more interesting in my mind. it suggests quite solidly that these HF stations are an important part of the Russian military / spy process even to this day, as they feel the need to add new ones. If they were just cold war leftovers, they would be just letting them slow die off, not expanding them.
Wait what I thought the second quieter one was just an echo of the buzzer
There have been echoes reported occasionally, but those appear and disappear as propagation conditions change. If this is the newer buzzer that I’m thinking if that people were talking about on the Twente webSDR site, then it was too consistent for it to have been an echo of the old station.
Thanks RM. Always Great Stuff****
The Pip marker on 4436 appears to be just a server leak, it exists only on that SDR but nowhere else.
Excellent Summary..Thank You 👍
I wonder if they will ever tell what it all meant😇
Probably not. Secrecy is so ingrained in people in military intelligence and espionage work that lying talk about their work, even decades afterwards.
I know I was on web SDR and it just stopped transmitting like 3 minutes after I was listening to it
They have been using beakons for guidence of aircraft and missiles.
Could be part of that system.
check 4601 khz USB...... it's on that freq with cw on a Saint-Petersburg, Russia.
So,
I tried to G mail myself a link to your story about "the thing", that capacitive resistance style eavesdropping device embedded in a wooden carving of the Presidential Seal, and its just gone.
Can you throw that one back up?
Found it
Nevermind
Great show thanks again cheers, CT 48-70 🇬🇧👍
a thort comes to mind, could thay be for sum sort of propogation testing/finding.
A theory i came across is it was related to a reorganized of the Russian military in the western region (i think splitting it back up?).
A new marker for a new region makes sense.
Lot of noise on 9610, covering E11 a couple of times recently.
@RingwayManchester >>> Great video...👍
Wagner buzzer ?
Hm. That sounds a little bit spooky.🤔
its not gone idk how i got it but its in WebSDR 4625 khz USB and do the waterfall zoom
3:24 I can't stand the rain
Outside my window 🔉🔉
UVB sounds normal for me 22:16 12/07
Didn't Ukraine just get denied entry into joining NATO? Maybe that had something to do with it.
Saint-Petersburg, Russia........WEB SDR
Someone forgot to change the batteries…
Yeah, i have confirmation from several inside sources that the buzzer runs on 4x C cells 😉😂
If it was a comm link to the Wagner group?
Wagner used real coms. Russian MOD is a joke. They use baofengs that the soldiers have to buy themselves.
😮
Why tf is he saying trzy in polish not tri in Russian 🚨🚨🚨
Пуск!
Ненадо дядя!
Channel marker?
Who are you making it for?
To ensure its clear when you want to use it... All you are doing is telling any would be jammer what channel to jam.
To mark the channel and tell your enemy what channel you intend to use?
To mark the channel and tell your friends what channel you intend to use? They should already know, they are the ones getting the transmission.
There are reasons why others have appeared in recent months. You really should look into how their military operates in relation to their laws.
You havent debunked the dead mans trigger at all... Its just being said in the wrong way.
Timing suggests it was a Wagner channel.
Wagner related?
Oooo
With what is going on over there, It wouldnt surprise me to hear that it ran out of money.
@FixitFrank >>>> I wouldn't be so sure, yes Russia is a little short of cash (war costs large sums of money - it's winning hands down with a 1 to 7 kill rate Ukrainian) but as it's run on the 'gold standard' so with inflation the more money you got on top of the high value of the rouble. It's doing better than most people think.
@@gettogo0159 LOL, Okay bot. Its not. Its being crushed by Ukraine. Literally crushed. almost 300K dead russans. youre spewing nonsense. one ruble equals one penny. thats terrible. You're either delusional or a bot SLAVA UKRAINI
@@gettogo0159 oh its a bot. lol
@@FixitFrankTakes one to know one
@@FixitFrankbruh stop calling everything you don't like russian propaganda, a what he says is true, nfkrz explained the rouble to usd ratio a couple months ago
I am sick of people thinking it's part of the the dead hand. The amount of times it's messed up. We'd have nuclear apocalypse several times over.
Love ya videos and I hope you get 100k by the end of the month! My callsign is M7DOJ and you have inspired me to get into amateur radio because it is weird, fun and also cool! Once again, love ya vids and thx.
Thanks brother