Great video, I got a polyglot last year for the embedded steno but had trouble editing the config file via notepad to get the layers I wanted, nice to know theres a new web UI to change the layers and key bindings!
YAY NEW UPLOAD! ive been using javelin qwerty mode on my uni v4 together with dotterel which helped me with doing chapter 4 of the lawping theory where i need to turn of the dictionary to get raw inputs. i feel its quite convinient for me since dotterel is like a lightweight plover software and i could change the dictionary in the app itself but does lack alot of features. Ill definitely watch this once i setup lawping for android, i just use plover lawping for now
Before i start the journey of learning steno typing, is it sufficient for transcriping medical lectures? I mean can i type pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, hemoglobin or tetramere ?
You can write anything with steno as long as it is in your dictionary. If you understand your steno theory well enough, you can break down any word into a set of steno strokes. However, any dictionary you use is never going to be 100% complete, and you are expected to always be adding missing entries that you come across. With the theory that I use, I'd write these words as: `TPHU/PHOE/TPHOE/UL/TRA/PHAOEU/KRO/SKO/PEUBG/SEU/HREU/KO/SROL/KA/TPHO/KO/TPHEU/KWROE/SEUS` `HAOE/PHOE/TKPWHROE/PWEUPB` `TE/TRA/PHAOER` Out of these three words, I only have "hemoglobin" defined, however. If I wrote the other outlines, they would just output the raw steno as shown above (since they aren't defined). So, what I could do is either add the terms beforehand, or just come back to the undefined entries later and fix them up. This is what court reporters typically do. When they finish their transcript, they will review all the untranslated strokes, add them to their dictionary, and their software will automatically replace them in the transcript with the actual term. I'm not sure if this is a viable workflow for your uses, but it's just the nature of steno that you are constantly tweaking your dictionary and adding stuff that you need.
QMK doesn't provide much of what I need to build a full system. It also supports a lot of things (e.g., 8-bit processors that complicate the code) that I have no intention of ever supporting. Taking full control of everything is what allows tight integration of configuration, firmware and web tools functionality. Boards like MultiSteno aren’t supported because they lack the hardware, not because of any other reason Also, I have no interest in maintaining a separate fork of QMK, or fighting QMK politics for mainlining any work. Plover HID PR from dnaq has sat unmerged for 3 years, so it doesn’t seem there is much priority on stenography. Stenography features such as first up and repeat have not been merged for even longer and have become so far out of sync to be difficult for people to rebuild for new boards too
can I use both javeline firmware for android and plover on Laptop by just plugging and unplugging? or do I have to perform the download firmware everytime I switch between the two?
Yes, you do not need to update the firmware if you want to use Javelin with Plover! I show this at 3:14. Javelin can be used by itself (embedded mode), but can also be used with Plover (Gemini PR mode). You can toggle between the two modes by pressing a key combo usually (depends on the board)
@@AerickSteno Also one of the keys in my Uni v4 suddenly stopped working. it's the Final -L key, do you know any possible way to fix this? maybe like resetting the keyboard? or tweaking some settings , hoping for your reply. I badly need to fix this or it's gonna be difficult for me to continue studying. Thank you!
@@ryanjustinrazon4237 You have to press the two thumber keys, the top S- on the left, and the -D key on the right. The key combo is listed in the Javelin firmware builder page: lim.au/#/software/javelin-steno . You just have to select your board, and then scroll all the way to the bottom (step 5). It's unlikely that it's a firmware issue if a single key just suddenly stopped working. You can try reverting the firmware back to the original one and see if that fixes it. If not, you can join the Plover Discord server, and we might be able to diagnose what's wrong with it. You can also reach out to Peter at StenoKeyboards.com to see if he can repair it.
OK, I didn't know where to ask this so I will ask here. Why does Lapwing uses KWH for Y as opposed to plover's KWR? I am just starting and i was learning on plover but thinking to continue on lapwing as it makes a bit more sense but I don't get the KWH for y
Early on when I created Lapwing, I wanted a linker chord for multisyllable words, and I decided on KWR. The initial y consonant isn't all that common, and phonetically it can represent a glide linker, so at the time it made sense. However, eventually I figured that KWR being used for both a linker and initial y caused issues, so I eventually changed initial y to be KWH. It was a lot easier and less disruptive to keep the linker chord as KWR.
@AerickSteno oh wow, thx for a quick reply. I am just starting to learn steno and it's Def very hard. My very first month was on plover but many places recommend Lapwing to learn so I amtrying the switch now. Also hello fellow Vancouverite
I can't download the default firmware files either. Not sure what's happening, but it'll probably be fixed soon. That said, I was still able to create my own firmware and download it.
I would realy like to learn but the french community is not well developped. I don't even know if there is a french dictionnary available (i search for many time) + i don't have a keyboard adapt
Almost certainly not for Javelin, you'd really have to make a lot of your own modifications. There is a French system available for Plover (with a dictionary), and it even uses the same layout as English. github.com/Vermoot/Pluvier Sadly, the steno community is just so niche and creating a theory, dictionary, and learning resources for various languages is a lot of work.
@@AerickSteno @AerickSteno Thanks for your fast response . It's a very nice community i join the discord server and its really helpful. I don't know if i have thr strengt to try using plover on my azerty keyboard i will try in the futur. Last year (2nd year of University) i'll discover stenokeyboard it blew my mind i was very thinking about contributing to the stenokeyboard asterisk kickstarter but i miss and the fact that it is a qwerty keyboard probably would confuse me a little. So i think i would try to plover another time and i hope my keyboard will be compatible . Thanks hope you will see me in the community soon
Bunch of useful links in the description if you need help.
Great video, I got a polyglot last year for the embedded steno but had trouble editing the config file via notepad to get the layers I wanted, nice to know theres a new web UI to change the layers and key bindings!
This is a really nice informative video about javelin! glad someone has posted something showing it off.
YAY NEW UPLOAD! ive been using javelin qwerty mode on my uni v4 together with dotterel which helped me with doing chapter 4 of the lawping theory where i need to turn of the dictionary to get raw inputs. i feel its quite convinient for me since dotterel is like a lightweight plover software and i could change the dictionary in the app itself but does lack alot of features. Ill definitely watch this once i setup lawping for android, i just use plover lawping for now
dotterel is also the app i used before getting a steno board and using a normal keyboard to use for steno by changing the keyboard input
Thank you for the video 👍🏻
Best wishes from the UK
Thanks for the good info as always!
Before i start the journey of learning steno typing, is it sufficient for transcriping medical lectures?
I mean can i type pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, hemoglobin or tetramere ?
You can write anything with steno as long as it is in your dictionary. If you understand your steno theory well enough, you can break down any word into a set of steno strokes. However, any dictionary you use is never going to be 100% complete, and you are expected to always be adding missing entries that you come across.
With the theory that I use, I'd write these words as:
`TPHU/PHOE/TPHOE/UL/TRA/PHAOEU/KRO/SKO/PEUBG/SEU/HREU/KO/SROL/KA/TPHO/KO/TPHEU/KWROE/SEUS`
`HAOE/PHOE/TKPWHROE/PWEUPB`
`TE/TRA/PHAOER`
Out of these three words, I only have "hemoglobin" defined, however. If I wrote the other outlines, they would just output the raw steno as shown above (since they aren't defined). So, what I could do is either add the terms beforehand, or just come back to the undefined entries later and fix them up. This is what court reporters typically do. When they finish their transcript, they will review all the untranslated strokes, add them to their dictionary, and their software will automatically replace them in the transcript with the actual term.
I'm not sure if this is a viable workflow for your uses, but it's just the nature of steno that you are constantly tweaking your dictionary and adding stuff that you need.
@@AerickSteno thanks a lot🔥❤️
This is really cool, but I wonder if something like this can be added to QMK for greater compatibility.
According to Javelin's creator, the licences are incompatible.
@@AerickSteno Interesting, I assumed it would've been distributed under either MIT or GPL, but I've never heard of its Polyform license before.
QMK doesn't provide much of what I need to build a full system. It also supports a lot of things (e.g., 8-bit processors that complicate the code) that I have no intention of ever supporting. Taking full control of everything is what allows tight integration of configuration, firmware and web tools functionality.
Boards like MultiSteno aren’t supported because they lack the hardware, not because of any other reason
Also, I have no interest in maintaining a separate fork of QMK, or fighting QMK politics for mainlining any work. Plover HID PR from dnaq has sat unmerged for 3 years, so it doesn’t seem there is much priority on stenography. Stenography features such as first up and repeat have not been merged for even longer and have become so far out of sync to be difficult for people to rebuild for new boards too
@@jeffreylim9979 Gotcha, makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.
What do you think about the polyglot as a board? Would it be a good begginer keyboard?
can I use both javeline firmware for android and plover on Laptop by just plugging and unplugging? or do I have to perform the download firmware everytime I switch between the two?
Yes, you do not need to update the firmware if you want to use Javelin with Plover! I show this at 3:14. Javelin can be used by itself (embedded mode), but can also be used with Plover (Gemini PR mode). You can toggle between the two modes by pressing a key combo usually (depends on the board)
@@AerickSteno thank you, can i know what key combinations for switching. Im using Uni v4.
@@AerickSteno Also one of the keys in my Uni v4 suddenly stopped working. it's the Final -L key, do you know any possible way to fix this? maybe like resetting the keyboard? or tweaking some settings , hoping for your reply. I badly need to fix this or it's gonna be difficult for me to continue studying. Thank you!
@@ryanjustinrazon4237 You have to press the two thumber keys, the top S- on the left, and the -D key on the right. The key combo is listed in the Javelin firmware builder page: lim.au/#/software/javelin-steno . You just have to select your board, and then scroll all the way to the bottom (step 5).
It's unlikely that it's a firmware issue if a single key just suddenly stopped working. You can try reverting the firmware back to the original one and see if that fixes it. If not, you can join the Plover Discord server, and we might be able to diagnose what's wrong with it. You can also reach out to Peter at StenoKeyboards.com to see if he can repair it.
I tried pressing all 4keys and the embedded steno stopped but Plover is still not working. It says "disconnected" what should I do? thanks
OK, I didn't know where to ask this so I will ask here. Why does Lapwing uses KWH for Y as opposed to plover's KWR? I am just starting and i was learning on plover but thinking to continue on lapwing as it makes a bit more sense but I don't get the KWH for y
Early on when I created Lapwing, I wanted a linker chord for multisyllable words, and I decided on KWR. The initial y consonant isn't all that common, and phonetically it can represent a glide linker, so at the time it made sense. However, eventually I figured that KWR being used for both a linker and initial y caused issues, so I eventually changed initial y to be KWH. It was a lot easier and less disruptive to keep the linker chord as KWR.
@AerickSteno oh wow, thx for a quick reply. I am just starting to learn steno and it's Def very hard. My very first month was on plover but many places recommend Lapwing to learn so I amtrying the switch now. Also hello fellow Vancouverite
I purchased polyglot, however, I have a feeling that using it since it has more keys is good at the same time that is very debilitating to learn steno
Is it just for me or is it no longer possible to download the Javelin firmware builder?
I can't download the default firmware files either. Not sure what's happening, but it'll probably be fixed soon. That said, I was still able to create my own firmware and download it.
I would realy like to learn but the french community is not well developped. I don't even know if there is a french dictionnary available (i search for many time) + i don't have a keyboard adapt
Almost certainly not for Javelin, you'd really have to make a lot of your own modifications.
There is a French system available for Plover (with a dictionary), and it even uses the same layout as English. github.com/Vermoot/Pluvier
Sadly, the steno community is just so niche and creating a theory, dictionary, and learning resources for various languages is a lot of work.
@@AerickSteno @AerickSteno Thanks for your fast response . It's a very nice community i join the discord server and its really helpful. I don't know if i have thr strengt to try using plover on my azerty keyboard i will try in the futur. Last year (2nd year of University) i'll discover stenokeyboard it blew my mind i was very thinking about contributing to the stenokeyboard asterisk kickstarter but i miss and the fact that it is a qwerty keyboard probably would confuse me a little. So i think i would try to plover another time and i hope my keyboard will be compatible . Thanks hope you will see me in the community soon