EP26 TenSura Multi-Timeline Explained. Chloe's Time Loop, Manas Chronoa

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2023
  • Reviewing Tensura LN Vol 11, Part 5 of 6: Understanding Chloe/Chronoa's Time Loop. Exploring Chloe's relentless attempts to rescue Rimuru and the Monster Federation throughout her numerous time cycles, featuring: Luminous versus Granbell. Manas Chronoa's first appearance in the book.
    🚨 SPOILER ALERT 🚨
    The following content contains spoilers for the "That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime" light novel series. If you're not caught up or prefer to avoid spoilers, please proceed with caution or skip this segment entirely.
    Please note that this video provides only a very general plot review and analysis. If you want more detailed insights, I highly recommend reading the novel. It's truly captivating and highly enjoyable.
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  • @Luciaq
    @Luciaq Місяць тому +27

    By the way when veldora rampaged it was the empire that stopped him and not chloe or hinata, chronoa/chloe went on an uproar and started killing people until guy crimson stopped her, upon nearly facing death rimuru revived and sent her back in time while he handled whatever situation in that timeline alone

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому +2

      Thank y for point it out, pinned ur comment🙏🏻

    • @Luciaq
      @Luciaq Місяць тому +1

      @@lighteningball no problem, love your content bro

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому +1

      🥰🥰🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @mdhamim7552
      @mdhamim7552 26 днів тому +1

      Star I dont agree with "assumption "(the last part)
      Yours one is also correct and his one is also. You talked about another timeline. Chloe mentioned 3 different timelines event as she directly said she has countless of timelines " fragmented memories " thats why she mixes up many things.
      Reread v12 or I can show you scan in our server.

  • @lighteningball
    @lighteningball  8 місяців тому +20

    In this episode, we mention Manas Chronoa, which is also the first reference to Manas in the book. One aspect that wasn't clarified in this episode is that, in the most recent previous timeline, even though Chloe managed to get the result: while Hinata got hit by a beam, Rimuru didn't die, yet, the Hinata and Chloe who disappeared in that timeline were not resurrected, leading them once again into a time loop. In the next episode, we'll delve deeper into this particular aspect.

  • @WolfLabyrinth
    @WolfLabyrinth 16 днів тому +2

    Thank you for this. I have long been trying to find a good explanation over Chloe's time heist. This one's the best!

  • @lBukket
    @lBukket Місяць тому +4

    This was incredible. Thank you so much for narrating these novels.
    I love listening to your episodes whilst working!

  • @mdhamim7552
    @mdhamim7552 8 місяців тому +66

    Cuz of this volume we can clearly see the real fate/natural destiny of rimuru . Which is always suffering. Rimuru is actually the most unlucky tensura character. His main luck was to getting killed or seeing everyone he loves getting killed . So technically a tragic life . Until this timeline changed everything . In 1 out of countless/nearly infinite timelines rimurus natural fate got changed cuz of Chloe. By which we can clearly say it took a massive hardship to get a happy -smiling rimuru and his life.(tho the one who suffered most is Chloe/cronoa)

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  8 місяців тому +11

      Really an exceptionally profound summary, thank you bro. Indeed, this is what I personally believe sets TenSura apart from other isekai novels. It's not just about world-building, but the deeper content within. Rimuru does indeed seem to be the most ill-fated character in TenSura. Compared to that, Masayuki seems more like the typical male protagonist of a feel-good isekai story.

    • @mdhamim7552
      @mdhamim7552 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@lighteningballyeah. Tensura have all types of aspects you can get from a story unique or typical altogether which makes it masterpiece.
      Also fuse revealed there are some timeline exist where rimuru fortunately resurrected himself after dying but saw monster federation's destruction including death of his most of subordinates which he couldn't endured and became a very evil demon lord . Tho after becoming evil he was always crying at heart cuz he became demon lord by using his own subordinates soul (i.e benimaru,shion,shuna,hakuro,rigurd such). (Story exist in slime Isekai memories game. If you don't know then you can find it in y t . Just search - slime Isekai memories hidden story)

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  8 місяців тому +5

      @@mdhamim7552 Yea, I knew that one, when chose to lose to Hinata at the very beginning in the game and he met Souei later and found that citizens in Monster Federation being slaved. You mean that one?
      The multi timeline is really a smart move in the light novel, it even makes the web version to be considered as one of the timeline though.

    • @mdhamim7552
      @mdhamim7552 8 місяців тому +1

      @@lighteningball yeah that one .
      And absolutely agree.

    • @aniketmodi4161
      @aniketmodi4161 5 місяців тому

      Bro rudeus also have terrible fate he lost everything and learned from that

  • @michealolesi9897
    @michealolesi9897 8 місяців тому +17

    This was so good… My favorite episode so far, though quite complicated, but executed very well.
    Thank you

  • @Abyssal_Dreamland
    @Abyssal_Dreamland 8 місяців тому +5

    loved this episode, thank you! You are doing an awesome job!

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  8 місяців тому

      Thank you so much, I’m glad you liked it

  • @MRBROW-oz1mu
    @MRBROW-oz1mu 8 місяців тому +5

    Thank you so much for all your hard work I’ve been following this series from the beginning and I will till the end and you catch up with the light novel

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the encouraging words, I'll try my best to catch up the novel ASAP. I guess there would be another 60 episodes till the Vol 22 lol...but well, I already finished almost 30 lol

  • @walterelliothayes
    @walterelliothayes 7 місяців тому +3

    You did a great job. Time travel is always complicated!

  • @HeavyBreeze
    @HeavyBreeze Місяць тому +1

    This is amazing what you’ve created here.

  • @TheBluemonster101
    @TheBluemonster101 Місяць тому

    This was so cool. I had to rewind a few times, but your explanation about the world of tensura is just amazing. The story is so cool.

  • @kingchangi8432
    @kingchangi8432 Місяць тому +1

    thank you for explaining this in a way that was easy to understand. as an anime watcher i just stumbled into this rabbit hole after the last episode lol. take this sub and good luck brother

  • @user-jm2zt9eh5n
    @user-jm2zt9eh5n 4 місяці тому +16

    My head hurts

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  4 місяці тому +1

      😆😆😆second watch might needed haha

    • @user-jm2zt9eh5n
      @user-jm2zt9eh5n 4 місяці тому +2

      @@lighteningball i mean ig i need to watch it 999 tims to understand something 🗿

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  4 місяці тому +1

      @@user-jm2zt9eh5n 😂bro~

    • @SuperCatacata
      @SuperCatacata 17 днів тому

      Vid is too quick to properly explain anything IMO.
      Way too many important details skimmed for the sake of time.

    • @user-jm2zt9eh5n
      @user-jm2zt9eh5n 12 днів тому

      @@SuperCatacata yeah lol

  • @chrisphan4005
    @chrisphan4005 Місяць тому +1

    Complicated but good. Just started watching ur vids. Hope u get more subscribers 😊

  • @KurushimiVrishraka
    @KurushimiVrishraka Місяць тому +3

    If I didn't watch this I wouldn't have been so confused. LOL!

  • @SirJacto
    @SirJacto Місяць тому

    It was extremely complicated but I got it!!! This is amazing…

  • @Drakkonemus
    @Drakkonemus 3 місяці тому

    Awesome Job! I would have preferred one time jump instead of GameShark Code Chloe. More or less one shot to get it right raising the stakes. Then have a final arc where the failed timeline attacks the current timeline. Final boss Feldway merged with Ivarage from the other timeline would be tight.

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  3 місяці тому +1

      Wow, u should try to write out this plot line and make it a derivative work👍👍

  • @billieticklish
    @billieticklish 2 місяці тому +2

    In theory, when an object or a person travels back in time. Its origin no longer makes sense.

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  2 місяці тому

      I agree. TenSura's story setting has not successfully established a consistent view of time and space. It can only be enjoyed as a light-hearted read in the genre of isekai novels. The story setting still very appealing.

  • @ulandaychristopher2644
    @ulandaychristopher2644 Місяць тому +4

    so chloe was the main character of the story?

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      Nope, she is not, but she is important to the success of Rimuru

  • @kgazda27
    @kgazda27 Місяць тому

    is it explained in the book, where does the chronoa come from in the dwelling of the spirits when she saves chloe?

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      Chronoa is Chloe from the future, the Lord of Wisdom sent her back in the past and reside on Chole. Yes, it explained in the book, but I summarized and collect different parts into one

  • @fishsomewhereelse3288
    @fishsomewhereelse3288 5 днів тому

    Story got even deeper damn

  • @bingegaming5857
    @bingegaming5857 2 місяці тому +4

    unique skill: confusion 😅

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  2 місяці тому

      😂😂😝😝it’s very confused, just enjoy it as a fun story, no need to delve too much since the author didn’t make it very clear either😜😜

    • @hakimmalek8317
      @hakimmalek8317 11 днів тому

      which had evolved into ultimate skill : migraine

  • @mrcandy-zs4qw
    @mrcandy-zs4qw 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you man.

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  8 місяців тому

      Thank you man😉 you are a bit late for comment this time😆

    • @mrcandy-zs4qw
      @mrcandy-zs4qw 8 місяців тому

      @@lighteningball i was busy man sorry

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  8 місяців тому

      Just kidding, thank you for the continuous supporting🫡

  • @killerja3
    @killerja3 Місяць тому

    Seems like her and Rimiru are the core cause from what it seems like Rimiru didn't truly die fully and came back, just not in time for the war.

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      I agree, Rimuru didn’t truly die in every timeline. Thx to Lord of Wisdom

  • @sumantadas7369
    @sumantadas7369 2 місяці тому +2

    I just need one question answered for me
    Who the hell brought the mask??????😅

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  2 місяці тому

      My guess is lord of wisdom of some timeline, no one else would have done that. Maybe there was another Manas Ciel in other timeline😂😂but just my guess

  • @be6386
    @be6386 Місяць тому

    2:27 did the author get inspired by the author behind mushoku Teseni? Like the whole time loop teleportation thing?

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      well,most isekai stories are quite similar in settings, including the time loop stuff, I can’t say he got inspiration from others, but well, maybe😂😂

    • @be6386
      @be6386 Місяць тому

      @@lighteningball mushoku teseni is the very first or rather known isekai since it’s known as the grandfather of all isekai

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      I watched one season of that, will def check back🙏🏻

    • @mdhamim7552
      @mdhamim7552 26 днів тому

      There are many series exist that has time loop things even before mushoko. Example : Madoka Magica(2011), Higurashi(2005) Mushoko is just 1 years older then slime. Nothing more.
      And tensura time loop event and mushoko's one totally different.

    • @mdhamim7552
      @mdhamim7552 26 днів тому

      ​​@@be6386Overlord, gate, log horizon, re creators all of them are older then mushoko

  • @josephrogers3666
    @josephrogers3666 3 місяці тому

    In the novel the clash of ultimate skills being only of will was specifically because they both gave authorities over the same thing (life and death)

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  3 місяці тому

      yes, the power of will or soul strength, I’ll talk about this in EP 69.🫡

    • @josephrogers3666
      @josephrogers3666 3 місяці тому

      @@lighteningball I’d better catch up in time then

  • @ariasity
    @ariasity 8 місяців тому +2

    Oh damn please talk about the theory you mentioned about rimuru and veldanava

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  8 місяців тому +1

      The theory involved with many future characters such as Zalario, Micheal, and some future ultimate skills, so I guess I have to wait till the major review and plot being explained, but I will mention the theory whenever any evidence showing up.

    • @ariasity
      @ariasity 8 місяців тому

      @@lighteningball Appreciate it 🙏

  • @moonlightshadowscros
    @moonlightshadowscros Місяць тому

    Did rimuru and chloe met at the end?

  • @srinathtamirisa4617
    @srinathtamirisa4617 19 днів тому

    What happened to the chloe who summoned along with leon

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  19 днів тому +1

      summoned 300 years later world where Rimuru is

  • @xxsuperpeace1228
    @xxsuperpeace1228 16 днів тому

    The episode was great. But I was just wondering how exactly is Hinata connected to Chloe? Why is Chloe’s skill tied specifically to hinata’s death?

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  16 днів тому

      This describes the established facts of the time loop from Chloe's perspective. The book doesn't explain why Hinata is also involved. I think the author simply wanted to connect several female characters related to the hero series, which is why it was set up this way.

  • @yasser9350
    @yasser9350 Місяць тому

    My head hurts with all these timelines😂
    Amazing you were able to grasp all of its meaning

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      still got some mistakes here lol, glad u like it.

  • @Blackbeard23459
    @Blackbeard23459 Місяць тому

    This time travel is explained better than Endgame. But what caused Chole to be summoned a 2nd time

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому +1

      Chloe's second summoning occurred because Leon, after losing Chloe, desperately made people in this world use summoning magic. As a result, three hundred years later, humans used this method to summon Chloe three hundred years into the future, crossing through time. However, this created a 'chicken or the egg' problem, and the author didn't provide a specific logical explanation for this. One possible speculation is that a Ciel or Lord of Wisdom from a certain timeline, possessing the ability to control time, created this loop.

  • @NRV0
    @NRV0 2 дні тому

    Wait, so Chloe was summoned 300yrs ago with Leon then summoned again with the other children? Then how come she didn't have her memories from 300yrs ago the 2nd time she got summoned? Also why didn't she let her friend, Leon, know? Does she hate him?

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  2 дні тому +1

      Leon, after losing Chloe, spread the incomplete method of summoning people from another world. As a result, those who acquired this method summoned Chloe 300 years into the future. This created a paradox, like the chicken and egg dilemma. Chloe, being very young, only saw Leon as an older brother. I believe the Chloe from 300 years later has no memory of her previous self, and it was only through a series of events that her memories were awakened.

  • @Amishsrivastavs1383
    @Amishsrivastavs1383 20 днів тому

    I learnt only one thing from this chloe got time travel abilities and becane strong

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  20 днів тому

      You will know more about her in EP 95~🤭

  • @darthrevan2959
    @darthrevan2959 3 місяці тому +2

    yeah now im completly f-ucked

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  3 місяці тому +2

      😂😂😂did I fail to explain then😜😜😜

    • @darthrevan2959
      @darthrevan2959 3 місяці тому +2

      @@lighteningball nah bro, my head is just broken from the lore

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  3 місяці тому +2

      😜😜🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @erikdevos8482
    @erikdevos8482 Місяць тому

    Its not only shizu veldora and rimuru.hinata is also one coss she needs to stay alive coss the time loop happens every time hinata or rimuru dies

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      yes, Hinata is equally essential for the loop.

  • @PureMetalBanzai
    @PureMetalBanzai 3 місяці тому +3

    shits way to convoluted. thanks for the explanation

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  3 місяці тому

      Yes it’s complicated, but fun😆😆

  • @paolo487
    @paolo487 21 день тому

    My two braincells evaporated trying to understand this.

  • @jap_z5976
    @jap_z5976 2 місяці тому +1

    they said rimuru died many times in alternative timeline does that mean mikami is reincarnated there so many times? because mikami is died at he"s world and reincarnate their as a slime and got a name rimuru so it means mikami died at many times in alternative timeline

    • @jap_z5976
      @jap_z5976 2 місяці тому

      theres also a theories about rimuru being the reincarnate of valdanava

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, plz check my story EP56 for Veldanava😜 and I think Mikami only died once, since Rimuru’s story happened after that incident. So Mikami died once, and then there were multiple timeline after that, all after the birth of Rimuru and Great Sage. And eventually, Mikami will be saved by Rimuru (it happened in WN, and I think will happen in LN eventually)

    • @jap_z5976
      @jap_z5976 2 місяці тому

      but except for that im mostly curious about the existence of rimuru and veldanava cause many said that what if rimuru is the reincarnate of veldanava or etc.... there is so many theories about the two of them HAHAHA it makes me curious even more and also why mikami reincarnate at that world and before mikami died theres a mysterious voice will be heard. and why theres a voice suddenly appear when mikami is about to die like why its full of mystery

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  2 місяці тому

      Yes, the story becoming more interesting and complicated from the empire saga, and more and more theories after that. 😜

  • @mr.anjang62
    @mr.anjang62 Місяць тому

    Honestly, every fictional story that involve with "time manipulation" power always become more complicated, confusing and complex in story narrative going forward..

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      And many failed to explain the logic, well, TenSura timeline theory is not solid though, yet still better than some of other isekai works.

    • @mr.anjang62
      @mr.anjang62 Місяць тому

      @@lighteningball most creator just pick "time manipulation" (either do time-travelling or make time loops situation) as cheap way to cover some confusing element in their works but at the same time create another plotholes that make fans more confuse..

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      @@mr.anjang62 totally agree

  • @ballistic_1607
    @ballistic_1607 2 місяці тому +1

    Wouldn’t that make Milim the slimes daughter?

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  2 місяці тому

      Good point, this is also one of the reasons many people emotionally struggle to accept that Rimuru is the reincarnation of Veldanava. However, I think the author might come up with a new setting to fill this plot hole. Hopefully he would lol

    • @rizzyfc6512
      @rizzyfc6512 Місяць тому

      @@lighteningball how could he be the reincarnation of him if his soul is human that makes no sense unless he was already reincarnated when he was a human and he just doesn't have his memories back

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      @@rizzyfc6512 Well, I have thought about this issue. However, considering Veldanava's death, which actually occurred because he violated his own rule that a god's love must be equal, his love for Lucia inevitably led the Voice of The World to correct this error. Therefore, if he wanted to be with Lucia and be resurrected, he might need to seek out more secretive or unusual methods. So, becoming a regular person for a while might also have been Veldanava's idea, except he seems to have been restricted from acquiring the skill to find a girlfriend. This discussion doesn't have a definitive conclusion.

  • @ShunxHimmel
    @ShunxHimmel 12 днів тому

    Subaru but not self death triggered

  • @huang_yue0520
    @huang_yue0520 15 днів тому

    Ate claire ❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  15 днів тому

      Who is Claire?🤪

    • @huang_yue0520
      @huang_yue0520 15 днів тому

      Hey,🤣it's only my cousin. She's a bit confused about time loops and she asked me to explain it to her. I stumbled upon your video, and it's the perfect explanation. Thanks a bunch!🙇

  • @ErisianRomantic
    @ErisianRomantic 23 дні тому

    Great synopses of my favorite arc. Just..one problem.
    Her name is SHIZUE. Best to not call her Shizu. I get DoucheLord Leon had his reasons, and is not the "bad guy," but he's still a dick, xonsidering the life he left Shizue to deal with.

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  23 дні тому

      how to pronounce Shizue? thx for the clarification.

  • @huang_yue0520
    @huang_yue0520 15 днів тому

    Ate claire🫠❗️❗️❗️❗️

  • @jaimindaka5827
    @jaimindaka5827 Місяць тому

    This plot is almost same as mushoku tens

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      I didn't watch Mushoku, but I guess so, since most of ISEKAI stories are quite similar in settings.

  • @arviechristiancatiis2985
    @arviechristiancatiis2985 Місяць тому

    Still confused 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  Місяць тому

      reading the book at the same time is totally recommended tho🙏🏻

  • @user-ej3io8wm6y
    @user-ej3io8wm6y 23 дні тому

    Its sooooo complicated, how did u understand

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  22 дні тому

      I had to read the book thoroughly to make sure of the loop, but I still missed a few things. You can check the comments section to fill in the gaps.

    • @user-ej3io8wm6y
      @user-ej3io8wm6y 22 дні тому

      Damn ,ur actually so hardworking!

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  22 дні тому

      🤪🤪🤪yea, I’m feeling drained everyday😂😂😂

    • @user-ej3io8wm6y
      @user-ej3io8wm6y 22 дні тому

      Btw ,I uve got time ,I recommend you to watch summertime rendering atleast till ep 2 it's kinda similar to Chloe's story and my second best

    • @lighteningball
      @lighteningball  22 дні тому

      @@user-ej3io8wm6y will check for sure buddy, thx a lot😍