Carlotta vs Camellya | Who is The Best DPS?? - Wuthering Waves

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  • @Chihiro1st
    @Chihiro1st 2 дні тому +47

    i love that all the wuwa characters have different play styles, especially the five stars there all so unique

    • @voiofmoonlight
      @voiofmoonlight 2 дні тому +2

      Yes Im worred im not enjoy using powpow characters users but Carlotta is so clean I love using her

    • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
      @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 День тому

      Hell even several of the 4 stars, although not all as effective, play really well and unique to their characters.

    • @mapekalianhna4986
      @mapekalianhna4986 19 годин тому

      Yep, I play wuwa to for a bit to test is it good and I got Carlotta in 35 pull. Now I can't get back, she is too fun to play.

  • @saisis8984
    @saisis8984 3 дні тому +22

    4:17 Fallacy attack buff (20 sec buff duration)
    4:10 Lampy last attack (15 sec buff duration)
    4:09 Taoqi Outro - Heron + Moonlight set (15 sec buff duration)
    3:53 Last shot of the Liberation
    Timers are not the actual video, it's just the ToA timers to make it easy for the question at 1:22.
    All the buffs expired except for Shorekeeper ultimate and Rej glow.
    Also to add since I see some people confused in the comments: No, Carlotta apply Deconstruction with each of her shots so that debuff basically never expire during the ultimate rotation. As far as I know it also can't be the duration of the signature weapon buff since each time she does a shot in her ultimate stance it should apply the buff again but I'm not sure since I don't have the sig so I can't test it.

    • @misterna2882
      @misterna2882 3 дні тому +2

      The second inheritance is not activated so it is not reapplying deconstruction.

    • @saisis8984
      @saisis8984 3 дні тому +4

      @@misterna2882 Oh wait you are correct... well.. that's certainly a choice. Tbh I just assumed everyone would unlock the passive first so I didn't really notice it. Then yeah Deconstruction also run out but tbf so it did the first rotation as well.

    • @endsonlisboa7195
      @endsonlisboa7195 2 дні тому +1

      I was having that problem, but now I figure it out a rotation to fix it.
      Carlotta 2x Skill - Shore 5NA - Taoqi Ulti and Skill - Shore Full Rotation (5NA, Ulti, Skill and Fallacy) - - -
      NOW THE ROTATION WILL CHANGE HERE
      -After Shore Rotation - Carlotta 2x Skill and Forte - Taoqi NAs, Skill, Heron and Outro to Carlotta - Carlotta Ulti and BOOM!!

    • @endsonlisboa7195
      @endsonlisboa7195 2 дні тому

      Resuming, change to Carlotta after Shorekeeper and do her Skill and Forte before Taoqi have her Outro ready.

  • @myaccount-t4c3g
    @myaccount-t4c3g 2 дні тому +19

    i love how in all these showcases no one build taoqi

    • @human6959
      @human6959 День тому +2

      yeah, her sole purpose there is just for her outro

    • @Keir_lain
      @Keir_lain День тому +1

      resources are limited

    • @DenzoST
      @DenzoST День тому

      Taoqi is fine I use it for Carlotta the only problem is her slow rotation xd

    • @spacecadet-zero
      @spacecadet-zero 15 годин тому

      Nobody uses her correctly- she’s an amazing shieldbot. Never pop her until her intro skill is active, because when it is you just hit the enemy 3 times on her entering the field and it gives a huge shield for your other characters. Then ult and activate rock shield. By that time your other characters have their intros ready and she leaves.
      This rotation is very fast and practically makes your team invincible. Especially good with characters like Camellya, Jinshi, Jiyan and Changli whose big damage moves take a moment of not moving and leave them more vulnerable.

  • @nethumnelith1202
    @nethumnelith1202 3 дні тому +75

    Who regrets pulling for camellya? No hard feelings I love her so much

    • @thepd8006
      @thepd8006 3 дні тому +3

      Same

    • @khaidarfebrianto209
      @khaidarfebrianto209 3 дні тому +13

      No regret cause my camellya has S3 R1 :v

    • @ohgod8938
      @ohgod8938 3 дні тому +19

      Me, her vine mode feels janky to me, kinda annoys me

    • @vishwajeetsingha08
      @vishwajeetsingha08 3 дні тому +13

      Her animation looks cool it will work in Genshin
      But WuWa is a combat based game so a BIG problem 😢

    • @nethumnelith1202
      @nethumnelith1202 2 дні тому

      @@vishwajeetsingha08 accurate bruh

  • @paxvesania2008
    @paxvesania2008 2 дні тому +7

    I paired my Carlotta with YapYap and SK. The rotation feels very fast and smooth with all the buffs gain along the way. Also, I didn't build Taoqi so I opted for YapYap, no Zhezhi either.
    - S0 SK usual build
    - S6 Yap with Overture R5
    - S0 Carlotta with Frosty Resolve set
    Carlotta in this team will get a pretty decent atk% and crit buffs from the other 2 and Skill dmg buff from the set while also never ran into energy regen issue negated by Yap's outro. Very solid and consistent team for those without Zhezhi imo.

    • @Killa-bf4lw
      @Killa-bf4lw 2 дні тому +21

      Who the hell is yapyap?

    • @KuaJazper
      @KuaJazper 2 дні тому +4

      ​​@@Killa-bf4lwi guess yangyang

    • @ledience
      @ledience 2 дні тому

      Just use Lumi?

    • @paxvesania2008
      @paxvesania2008 2 дні тому +1

      @ledience Lumi resonance skill buff only last for 10 sec which is too short for Char to cast Fatal Finale, her biggest atk.

    • @ledience
      @ledience 2 дні тому

      @@paxvesania2008 then change the rotation, you save for lumi concerto and save for carlotta ult, when her ult is full get lumi outro and deal dmg with Carlotta, im sure she can do it less than 10 seconds, just reminder you have to build like 130% ER for carlotta

  • @misterna2882
    @misterna2882 3 дні тому +6

    Why did the last shot lose damage?
    I was confuse too when I noticed it too. At first I thought it has something to do with the signature weapon, so I did some testing and switch to using Static Mist. After I switch, it still does lower damage, so it's not the weapon. I can't really say for sure, but it is either the Lampylumen buff ran out or the Deconstruction didn't last long enough for the last shot. Or both.

    • @sainyam7123
      @sainyam7123 3 дні тому

      Deconstruction is a 18% DEF ignore which lasts for 4 seconds so maybe it was that

  • @r.d.6290
    @r.d.6290 2 дні тому +10

    Why you switch to Camellya from Shorekeeper and not from Sanhua? You lose Sanhua's basic atk damage buff this way.

    • @theghastlygamerz999
      @theghastlygamerz999 2 дні тому +20

      nope. he's actually doing the optimal Camellya rotation since he's doing the Double Intro rotation for camellya. Basically its SK -> Camellya Intro and then after camellya gets enough concerto energy to fill 3/4 of her gauge (also gets 10 crimson pistils at this time usually) you do a quick swap to Sanhua to do her Outro Buff into the second Camellya Intro. So by this time you have max Concerto and 10 pistils to do her Ephemeral attack while having the full 14 second duration Sanhua Outro.
      Since normally, if you do an SK -> Sanhua -> Camellya Rotation, if you get interrupted or have to dodge an attack, Sanhua's Outro buff doesnt last for the full Camellya rotation making you lose a lot of damage and it could also mean that SK's Liberation can fall off making you lose her Cr/Cd buffs as well as the super intro unless you have her sequence 1. Even if you don't mess up or get forced to dodge, her rotation is really just that long that you have to be really fast with your hands otherwise you could still lose the outro buff and SK liberation before you finish your Camellya rotation.

    • @verzetta
      @verzetta 2 дні тому +4

      Sanhua's concerto wasn't full going into Shorekeeper, Sanhua's outro was saved for when Camellya's Ephemeral was ready, to ensure Ephemeral gets the buff.

    • @trendmadegamer8725
      @trendmadegamer8725 2 дні тому +1

      It's to take full advantage of Sanhua buff in her Enhanced E state. Cause the normal rotation will make Sanhua buff ranout while Cam is in her most dmging stat

    • @christophermauro-barias7451
      @christophermauro-barias7451 2 дні тому

      the guy just dont know how to play.

  • @ravenkyo
    @ravenkyo 2 дні тому +4

    camellya still great imo
    i think all she good at is basic atk but im so wrong. i tried play her for liberation + forte only with sanhua and it work far more better than focus on the hold basic atk playstyle

    • @ravenkyo
      @ravenkyo 2 дні тому +1

      the point is don't focus on basic atk too much and play her like any other hero just liberation forte out something like that

    • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
      @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 День тому +1

      @@ravenkyo Exactly. Too many people don't understand how to play her depending on the content and thinks bossing is the same playstyle as overworld aoe mobbing.
      Even Changli whos lower on the tier list is very strong and is only lower solely because she requires you to understand her swap timings with a bit of micro managing but once you get that down she does amazing damage that's just as comparable. Shes just harder to do it.
      Same with Camellya. Spin to win is fun and all but if that's all the focus is on her kit then you're not really playing her effectively.

    • @ravenkyo
      @ravenkyo День тому

      @@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 as a camellya & changli main i absolutely agree haha

  • @steffie3148
    @steffie3148 3 дні тому +2

    Nice showcase❤

  • @LordBuddha-hd3nx
    @LordBuddha-hd3nx День тому +2

    Don't bother watching comparisons guys even lingyang can clear the content with enough skill just play with the characters u like

  • @V4lha11a
    @V4lha11a 2 дні тому +3

    I love gameplay Carllote so satisfying

  • @kawaiitruck-kun3616
    @kawaiitruck-kun3616 3 дні тому +5

    This is clearly not a fair comparison, so many wrong to this like Sonata Effect set, big difference between buffers, that abysmal Attack stat, incomplete skill upgrade, very slow rotation, etc. Ive seen many Carlota far stronger than that

    • @indrahermawan6573
      @indrahermawan6573 3 дні тому +2

      There will never be a truly fair comparison in this game.
      What you expect with Taoqi?
      With Zhezhi will be more stronger and faster ofc
      Besides, the characters are 2x 5-star characters and 1x 4-star character

    • @kawaiitruck-kun3616
      @kawaiitruck-kun3616 3 дні тому +2

      @@indrahermawan6573 Carlotta + Zhezhi vs Camellya + s6 Sanhua is fair I think because Sanhua is like a premium buffer to Camellya since she mostly deal basic attacks. Sanhua can massively buff basic attacks, incredibly fast concerto regen for very fast rotation, and she deal decent amount of damage despite very short on field time. She is a secret 5 star

    • @InnerWorls
      @InnerWorls 3 дні тому

      @@kawaiitruck-kun3616 Well Camellya is going to get her premium support in next banner , so we can see how the 2 dps perform with their premium support

    • @k-BlazeWW30
      @k-BlazeWW30 3 дні тому

      ​@@InnerWorls who says Roccia can do anything boost to your precious fallen flower 😂 she is Already overshadowed did u know how powerful carlotta's True Glacio set hahahaha

    • @zenmirio5178
      @zenmirio5178 2 дні тому

      y'all really underestimate camellya, my camellya clears stuff faster than jinhsi and i have both of them at S0R1

  • @Yxkia.11
    @Yxkia.11 День тому

    WHAT IS THE BACKGROUND MUSIC THEME PLEASE

  • @PhúMinh-i2h
    @PhúMinh-i2h 2 дні тому +3

    can you try Carlotta with Changli in switch swap team?

    • @ledience
      @ledience 2 дні тому +2

      Carlotta isnt for quickswapping, shes best at hypercarry

    • @mookieyoe
      @mookieyoe 2 дні тому +4

      @@ledience nah she's good with quickswap team. I cleared toa middle tower and new holograms fallacy diff VI with carlotta, changli, sk. Maybe u have skills issue if u think she's not good in quickswap team

    • @ledience
      @ledience 2 дні тому +1

      @@mookieyoe i didnt say shes bad at quickswapping but she wont optimize all her potential ability except for some cases that she brings static mist which is considered as sub dps weapon

    • @mcbx3d
      @mcbx3d 2 дні тому

      @@ledience there it's not this of optimized, with dual dps quickswap she deals less dmg than her hypercarry version, but her team compensates dealing dmg too during her long animations. She have a lot of long animations that are good to swap like her skill2, Echoe and her Forte, just don't swap during her Liberation time to not lose her buff it's not a big deal.
      Even Camellya that people say that it's bad in quickswap it's good, in CN speedruns with dual dps quickswap team she have clear times similar to her hypercarry team. Just play with the playstyle that you think it's more fun.

  • @2smbp
    @2smbp 12 годин тому

    100k with forte heavy atk is insane

  • @Zhongli3176
    @Zhongli3176 2 дні тому +2

    Why did he use 3cost electro damage bonus pieces on taoqi

    • @zelvicpaxley
      @zelvicpaxley  2 дні тому

      Random Lv. 0 echo, only need buff from outro skill.

    • @Zhongli3176
      @Zhongli3176 2 дні тому

      @zelvicpaxley what other characters can i use with carlotta apart from taoqi and zhezhi

    • @Riptitde777
      @Riptitde777 2 дні тому

      @@Zhongli3176 can use yangyang, sanhua, or lumi especially if theyre maxed with 6 copies since the last copy for all 4 stars give a 20% atk buff

    • @zelvicpaxley
      @zelvicpaxley  2 дні тому

      @@Zhongli3176 Whatever you want, you can play with any character you like, but for 4-star characters only Taoqi and Lumi that gives r. skill buff in current patch.

  • @gradiant111
    @gradiant111 22 години тому +1

    Why not use new sonata ? Frosty resolver

    • @TechyCatz
      @TechyCatz 10 годин тому +1

      Because it takes more than a week to farm😂

  • @ShadonSmith-ds3ev
    @ShadonSmith-ds3ev 2 дні тому

    Was camellya's crit rate and crit damage buffed because i just realized that yhat stats ar nonsensicaly high i teied to add it up but its higher than i should be i don't know what im missing because mu xiangli yaos echo crit stats are higher than hers and all their other crit stats are the same but her crit stat totals are higher can someone please explain why

    • @Callomir
      @Callomir 2 дні тому +1

      Are you okay? You’ve clearly not added up correctly because it easily adds up as it’s shown in the video. Let’s go through it - Crit Rate: 62.3% / Crit DMG: 286.2%
      Let’s add up all the Crit Rate:
      Red Spring Sword - 24.3%
      (4 Cost Echo) - 10.5%
      (3 Cost Echo) - 0%
      (3 Cost Echo) - 6.3%
      (1 Cost Echo) - 6.9%
      (1 Cost Echo) - 9.3%
      Plus 5% Base Crit Rate. Total = 62.3% Crit Rate.
      Let’s add up the Crit DMG:
      (4 Cost Echo) - 44.0% (main stat) + 15% (substat)
      (3 Cost Echo) - 15%
      (3 Cost Echo) - 15%
      (1 Cost Echo) - 17.4%
      (1 Cost Echo) - 13.8%
      Plus 16% Crit DMG from Minor Forte Upgrades
      Plus 150% Base Crit DMG. Total = 286.2% Crit DMG.
      Seems to mathematically add up fine to me. It’s also not as “nonsensically high” as you think. My S0R1 Camellya is sitting at 72 Crit Rate / 300 Crit DMG. I consider my Camellya to be up there but I’ve still seen even higher stats.

  • @Bellzamas
    @Bellzamas День тому +1

    1:37 no forte buff

    • @alfianwi3905
      @alfianwi3905 День тому

      Actually it's taoqi buff 'cause it only last for 14sec. Her rotations is really tight you miss 1 sec then the buff is gone😂

  • @taihoangthe8308
    @taihoangthe8308 2 дні тому +1

    you should try new echo set for carlotta

    • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
      @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 День тому

      I've been hearing the new havoc set is good for Camellya too

  • @anishpanda7540
    @anishpanda7540 2 дні тому +1

    But have a catch toa has skill dmg bonus so 😊

  • @TechyCatz
    @TechyCatz 10 годин тому

    Carlotta would clear faster with Xiangli Yao than Taqui

  • @russlmao7091
    @russlmao7091 2 дні тому

    I have all the dps with their sig, and answer is simple, Jihnsi is the best

  • @blueberry7478
    @blueberry7478 День тому

    Who is the best DPS? Carlotta.
    The Kuro CEO said it before 🤷‍♂️

    • @-2ool
      @-2ool 13 годин тому

      They just trying to sell

  • @rudeus6621
    @rudeus6621 2 дні тому +2

    Carlotta isnt even using her echo set smh

  • @thesseus1332
    @thesseus1332 2 дні тому +1

    Lol i already saw people with 70/270 ratio on dc so it's not that bad to farm, double crit echos are easy to get, getting er is worse

    • @gotheat-en6nw
      @gotheat-en6nw 2 дні тому

      Getting def and hp is worse

    • @sriracha3458
      @sriracha3458 2 дні тому

      What energy is good for carlotta? Currently have 120 in a 75.5/276 ratio. Also, i use glacio+atk currently, should i go for 2 glacio instead?

    • @gotheat-en6nw
      @gotheat-en6nw 2 дні тому

      @@sriracha3458 i got Carlotta a few hours prior to this message, lemme tell you what to prioritize.
      Carlotta needs a solid amount of Crit rate, upgrading her talent gives Crit rate. Aim for a solid 50- 60. And as for Crit damage aim for 240+. My Carlotta is at lvl 70 with builds which still need adjustments yet she's hitting like around 60k to 70k and a few of her talents are at 6.
      So go for Crit,crt dmg, glacio bonus, Atk,atk

    • @thesseus1332
      @thesseus1332 2 дні тому

      @@sriracha3458 depends on your team, with zhezhi/shorekeeper you can get lower, without you need to check for yourself , i few videos and people were telling that you need 130-140 without zhezhi tho, i'm not sure for now so just waiting for the maygi video on that

    • @-uta806
      @-uta806 2 дні тому

      I spent all waveplates and my solvents and only got 1 double crit echo. It's not as easy as u say it is. Those that have a full set of double crit got lucky by rng.

  • @plusultra7
    @plusultra7 2 дні тому

    I have both and i say camellia wins with no difficulties 😊😊

  • @christophertonner2734
    @christophertonner2734 2 дні тому

    Is carlota worth pulling for I should I wait for another character? It's just been released on ps5 so wondering if I should wait for another banner 🤔

    • @svm6916
      @svm6916 2 дні тому +2

      Pull for the gameplay you actually like it's not like any hoyo games that powercrept older characters.

    • @SaikatSaha-yk1yq
      @SaikatSaha-yk1yq 2 дні тому +1

      Go for it, you can already see she isn't even using her best set and her talents are still low so yeah she is the top dps in the game for next 6 months atleast

    • @joaodanielbarros8099
      @joaodanielbarros8099 2 дні тому

      It's worth getting her, she's currently one of the best DPS in the game, not to mention that her gameplay is very satisfying.

    • @danifit24
      @danifit24 21 годину тому

      @@svm6916wiwa will make just the same, its been only 6 months, so wait a little longer for it

    • @axandraalex5869
      @axandraalex5869 10 годин тому +1

      Yes for dps at base pull and their current available team, i'd say:
      Jihnsi>charlotta>xiangli yao(with signature wp cuz he's free)>camelya>jiyan

  • @Rahulll7001
    @Rahulll7001 2 дні тому +5

    Cammy is love 💕❤️

  • @SuperGamersplus
    @SuperGamersplus 2 дні тому

    When will camellya be back

    • @svm6916
      @svm6916 2 дні тому

      If your lucky next patch but changli and sk still up in the line

    • @pegeta
      @pegeta 2 дні тому

      Camellya should be back in 2.2 or 2.3, since shore keeper is in 2.1 then Camellya is 100% 2.2

    • @pegeta
      @pegeta 2 дні тому

      @@svm6916 next patch is changli and sk.

  • @Alice-pr9jl
    @Alice-pr9jl 2 дні тому

    Like for music from pgr ❤

  • @daddyzhongli1
    @daddyzhongli1 2 дні тому +4

    Camellya is best dps in the game right now.
    Carlotta easy skip for me

  • @krisnafebriansyah8029
    @krisnafebriansyah8029 2 дні тому

    My eeyyeeeesssss

  • @sainyam7123
    @sainyam7123 3 дні тому +2

    Resonance Liberation -- Era of New Wave
    Deal Glacio DMG to all targets in an area (considered Resonance Skill DMG) and inflict Deconstruction on targets hit, then activate Twilight Tango.
    Can be cast in mid-air close to the ground.
    Deconstruction
    Dealing DMG to targets inflicted with Deconstruction ignores 18% of their DEF.
    Deconstruction / Duration 4s ( This 18% defense ignore lasts for 4 seconds )
    Forte Heavy Attack = Twilight Tango / Duration 10s
    Final bow state is the 80% R Lib damage multiplier it lasts as long as twilight tango from my understanding
    Sonata effect and her signature weapon have buffs that last for 5 seconds ( R Skill damage buff )
    Confused these earlier
    This is INCORRECT>>>>>>(
    Forte circuit buff lasts for 5 seconds ( 80% R Lib damage multiplier increase )
    R lib wasn't up in time ( A second late maybe ) so buff ran out
    I could be wrong though so check for yourself
    )

    • @jep-q1e
      @jep-q1e 3 дні тому

      uhm actually ☝🤓

    • @pramanakumalaputra507
      @pramanakumalaputra507 3 дні тому +4

      I don't know what part of her kits you read tbh. I am just going to copy and paste it to you because there is no such thing as 5 second for this buff.
      'This effect ends when Carlotta is switched off the field during Twilight Tango or when Twilight Tango ends.'

    • @sainyam7123
      @sainyam7123 3 дні тому

      @@pramanakumalaputra507 Yeah I confused it with the new sonata effect and her weapon buff probably

  • @subhajit2450
    @subhajit2450 2 дні тому +2

    @k-blaze is saying Camellya eats dust over Carlotta he needs some money help for his treatment 😂 care to donate 😂

  • @abhijitmohan9951
    @abhijitmohan9951 3 дні тому +7

    Damn my jinshi and camellya getting powercrept 😭

    • @watanabeyou3446
      @watanabeyou3446 3 дні тому +16

      In the video carlotta took longer time

    • @NamanRohatgi
      @NamanRohatgi 3 дні тому +6

      Roccia is coming so camellia ain't going anywhere
      She will be bis now instead of sanhua

    • @watanabeyou3446
      @watanabeyou3446 3 дні тому

      @@NamanRohatgi so rocca next support?

    • @k-BlazeWW30
      @k-BlazeWW30 3 дні тому

      ​@@watanabeyou3446No lol watch carefully Carlotta make them eat dust fool . this guy did even used her true glacio set echoes Glacio Revolver lol echo set 😂 Both jinshi and camellya are eating dust to dust haha accept reality 2.0v is the downfall of every 1.0v series dps 😂 that's how it is even on pgr bozo

    • @NamanRohatgi
      @NamanRohatgi 3 дні тому

      @@watanabeyou3446
      Yup
      Support+ sub dps
      She provides havoc damage amplification alongside dishing out good load of damage herself

  • @netgamesfoz
    @netgamesfoz 4 години тому

    primeiro tem que aprender a jogar ua-cam.com/video/ft5bB67_UNQ/v-deo.html

  • @k-BlazeWW30
    @k-BlazeWW30 3 дні тому +5

    😂 Camellya still eats dust my girl carlotta has double Ultimates❤

    • @subhajit2450
      @subhajit2450 2 дні тому +6

      My girl Camellya is C2 and deals over 700k ephimeral DMG 😂

    • @karl5861
      @karl5861 2 дні тому

      ​@@subhajit2450my Carlotta s0 and does 1milllion do better😂

    • @yue4528
      @yue4528 2 дні тому

      ⁠@@subhajit2450my S2 carlotta lib is around 900k

    • @heis203
      @heis203 2 дні тому

      what is bro yapping about. In this video camellya clearly outperforms carlotta plus shes Aoe dps. Carlotta is single target

    • @anshchoudhary5680
      @anshchoudhary5680 2 дні тому

      🤡🤡🤡