I agree it's an absolute sh¦tshow in Pugs. I'd say it's about 50/50 chance the key will be bricked and/or disbanded. I've ran it many times trying to get the sacbrood trinket to drop. 50% chance of wasting 30 minutes of your time is not worth it. I think I'm going to buy a boost for just that dungeon then never touch it again and just hope I get the trinket in the vault. If you thought it was bad on fortified just think about how bad it will be on tyrannical 😖
Prot Pally made the last fight pretty trivial. I can cleanse the poison thing, spellward someone if they miss their root, DS myself if I miss it, divine toll to break most roots as soon as it ends, double freedom someone else with me, etc.
For the first few packs I think it's nice to be travel form because they dont hit too hard and it makes the start of the grouping a lot faster, but if you're worried about threat/dying you can do it bear form its just a bit slower.
Correct, also any kind of leaps or disengages also work, but those are a bit trickier as you need to make sure you wait until the very last second to use them otherwise you still get pulled in.
Are you working on one of these for City of Threads? It's the only dungeon it seems like you are missing from the playlist so I was just curious. Thanks so much for these, they've been amazing!
Glad you enjoy the guides! Unfortunately I've been insanely unlucky and haven't gotten a City of Threads key, we had one in the first week pre-nerf that went as well as you would expect, but otherwise haven't seen it on a +10 yet. As soon as I do get one though I will post ASAP!
I do it in travel form, swapping to bear once you get towards the web bridge and using stampeding roar/charge to move quickly through that area to the mini boss. If you need you can pop barkskin at the start while in travel form, which also helps a bit with threat if you're running the Brambles talent.
Dude I’m really struggling doing the final route of going down side of boss room instead of mid. I get perma slowed and die as Druid and I’m thinking ima stick to mid and just use bloodlust to kill big scarab in time
Yeah I think especially for keys up til +12s going down the middle is actually totally fine, even without bloodlust. That big guy doesn't start getting scary until higher key levels.
@@Tactyks okay I just did a 9 down middle and yep totally fine. I don’t think I’ll be going past m10s because I want to keep my sanity but yeah thanks man!
Knock into charge can be hit or miss depending on where circles spawn, sometimes if you have melee dps the knock doesn't push those mobs far enough away, so circles can spawn on or near them.
@@Tactyks yeah for sure man. Oh dude I meant to thank you for the tanking advice the other day. My m+ group said I was doing way better and the healer was asking me how I improved so much lol you helped me so much
Sprint isn't enough unfortunately, think of it like the boss death grips you just before the explosion, so you can shadowstep after the big pull in effect and that would save you but you can't just outrun it.
Iam playing Druid (EC) and i have some issues with the trash that slows in the last boss area. Any tips? Should i switch the route to the trash in the middle of the area (big boy and 2 caster) or should i play slow and just pull 2 of these drones at any give time? Dont want to f*ck this up by dying every time in pugs... :/
I'd recommend slowing it down a bit, so only pull 2 of the slowing guys into the first pull, then do a second pull with 4 slowing guys alone, then you have the last pull with the double caster and remaining mobs. As a bear it's tough, can be useful to try and always pickup a paladin, evoker, or monk in your group and ask them to freedom/rescue you there, otherwise the best option is to drop an ursols down behind the pack, typhoon when the webs start, then cat shift to escape while the little guys are out of range and the casters are casting. Risky but the only real option unfortunately.
Yeah, though to be fair I think the middle path is totally fine for +10 keys, the scarab guy just has some nasty scaling so I expect him to be avoided on higher keys.
17:50 If you're a highmountain tauren druid/tank you can also use your Bull Rush racial to get out of the swirlys even when slowed by 100%. Just be careful not to charge into anything you did not mean to pull
Do you know if bull rush works on the SUCC for the boss? My worst nightmare in pugs is when I need to get to a puddle, and everyone is also using them. If I happen to choose the wrong direction and someone else takes the puddle, ggwp. Most of the time I just try to save my survival instinct charges and tank it xD
Paladins are perfectly capable of doing +10 keys, hell they're even using one in the RWF. Besides, even if they aren't getting invites it doesn't mean there aren't Ppals out there making their own groups!
In 9-11 range what’s going to brick your key isn’t the tank dying. It’s people failing to interrupt casts or failing mechanics. Paladins are often cheese mode for both those problems. An aware prot pally can make a key almost trivial and the healer will be able to keep them alive because they won’t be covering other people’s damage as much. Don’t be a meta slave in 10s
Most guide just tells about the abilities and not how to avoid it. So thank you for diving in deeper
No problem at all, glad you found it useful!
Thank you Tactyks!! Love your videos. I link these on my guild’s discord 😊
No problem at all, appreciate the support
Just timed a 10 City of Echoes last night, and I was pleasantly surprised we even killed last boss. 😂 Amazing video, thank you Tactyks!
Congrats! Glad you enjoyed the video.
More great stuff, thanks brother! Awaiting your Blood guide for the season:)
No problem at all, may have to wait a bit longer for that one though hahaha
@tactykz can you please make a dedicated guide for mythic plus directed specifically towards tanks. Like how to tank each boss, etc.
That's not a bad idea, only issue would be trying to find a way to not make the video 3 hours long hahaha
@@Tactyks I’m sure you’ll figure it out :D
I’m ok with a 3 hour video
Love these videos, they help a lot! hey what mod are you using for the mythic timer/count? I love it!
Glad you enjoy them! I'm using a WeakAura made by Reloe, you can grab it here:
wago.io/M+Timer
That last boss is a pug killer. Just did a +6 completely fine and all of a sudden we bricked the key because people didnt understand the last boss
I agree it's an absolute sh¦tshow in Pugs. I'd say it's about 50/50 chance the key will be bricked and/or disbanded. I've ran it many times trying to get the sacbrood trinket to drop. 50% chance of wasting 30 minutes of your time is not worth it. I think I'm going to buy a boost for just that dungeon then never touch it again and just hope I get the trinket in the vault. If you thought it was bad on fortified just think about how bad it will be on tyrannical 😖
Yeah it's a tough one for sure, hoping it gets a bit better over the next couple weeks as people start to understand it better but we'll have to see.
Its because they dont realise you can target your blood boil and kick it when youre snared. They just sit there trying to attack it.
Prot Pally made the last fight pretty trivial. I can cleanse the poison thing, spellward someone if they miss their root, DS myself if I miss it, divine toll to break most roots as soon as it ends, double freedom someone else with me, etc.
What add on are you using for the name plates?
I use Plater, you can grab the profile here:
wago.io/NaAT_LAIh
The second boss's frontal right after the charge always targets the charged person, at least in my experience as the healer.
Yeah seems the behaviour was changed since beta, where it continued to target the tank.
I'm just curious. I play guardian drood so for the first pull should I go into travel form or pick the packs up normally?
For the first few packs I think it's nice to be travel form because they dont hit too hard and it makes the start of the grouping a lot faster, but if you're worried about threat/dying you can do it bear form its just a bit slower.
@@Tactyks Perfect! Thank you so much for the quick response! Love your guides man! I'm a visual learner so your guides help me WAY more then MDT.
@@Burrison Of course, glad you find the videos useful!
On last boss, can you use Death's advantage when he start casting and it will not suck u in at the end of the spell?
Correct, also any kind of leaps or disengages also work, but those are a bit trickier as you need to make sure you wait until the very last second to use them otherwise you still get pulled in.
Are you working on one of these for City of Threads? It's the only dungeon it seems like you are missing from the playlist so I was just curious. Thanks so much for these, they've been amazing!
Glad you enjoy the guides! Unfortunately I've been insanely unlucky and haven't gotten a City of Threads key, we had one in the first week pre-nerf that went as well as you would expect, but otherwise haven't seen it on a +10 yet. As soon as I do get one though I will post ASAP!
Do you think you can do the early run through the mobs as druid tank? I feel like due to being so reliant on bear form it's not possible
I do it in travel form, swapping to bear once you get towards the web bridge and using stampeding roar/charge to move quickly through that area to the mini boss. If you need you can pop barkskin at the start while in travel form, which also helps a bit with threat if you're running the Brambles talent.
@@Tactyks Thanks a lot!!!
Dude I’m really struggling doing the final route of going down side of boss room instead of mid. I get perma slowed and die as Druid and I’m thinking ima stick to mid and just use bloodlust to kill big scarab in time
Yeah I think especially for keys up til +12s going down the middle is actually totally fine, even without bloodlust. That big guy doesn't start getting scary until higher key levels.
@@Tactyks okay I just did a 9 down middle and yep totally fine. I don’t think I’ll be going past m10s because I want to keep my sanity but yeah thanks man!
@@Schrogs No problem at all!
Knock into cat form is smart. You’re a smart guy! Also what about knock back into charge? Seem even harder to pull off though haha
Knock into charge can be hit or miss depending on where circles spawn, sometimes if you have melee dps the knock doesn't push those mobs far enough away, so circles can spawn on or near them.
@@Tactyks yeah for sure man. Oh dude I meant to thank you for the tanking advice the other day. My m+ group said I was doing way better and the healer was asking me how I improved so much lol you helped me so much
@@Schrogs That's awesome, glad I could help!
Might be a noob question but can I use sprint as a rogue and just run the opposite way when the last boss uses the suck in move?
Sprint isn't enough unfortunately, think of it like the boss death grips you just before the explosion, so you can shadowstep after the big pull in effect and that would save you but you can't just outrun it.
Thanks for the reply bro. Your videos are always helpful. Keep up the good work
@@MostlyFish21 No problem at all, happy to help!
@@Tactyks Does heroic leap work too?
@@The_Fictionist Heroic leap does work if timed properly yes!
Iam playing Druid (EC) and i have some issues with the trash that slows in the last boss area. Any tips? Should i switch the route to the trash in the middle of the area (big boy and 2 caster) or should i play slow and just pull 2 of these drones at any give time? Dont want to f*ck this up by dying every time in pugs... :/
I'd recommend slowing it down a bit, so only pull 2 of the slowing guys into the first pull, then do a second pull with 4 slowing guys alone, then you have the last pull with the double caster and remaining mobs. As a bear it's tough, can be useful to try and always pickup a paladin, evoker, or monk in your group and ask them to freedom/rescue you there, otherwise the best option is to drop an ursols down behind the pack, typhoon when the webs start, then cat shift to escape while the little guys are out of range and the casters are casting. Risky but the only real option unfortunately.
@@Tactyks Thanks Tactyks :) keep up the top content - cheers from germany
@@dennisa.9863 Always happy to help, appreciate the support
is it still possible to track mob count or is this video from beta?
This is from live servers, I believe hiding mob count was a mistake that Blizzard fixed relatively quickly.
@@Tactyks thanks for answer
@@mimispapadopoulos3356 Of course!
Do you have a link to that plater profile?
Yup, you can grab it here:
wago.io/NaAT_LAIh
@@Tactyks Hey thanks!
@@simonbelmont0993 No problem at all!
Is the reason to go down the left to avoid abilities of the mobs down the middle?
Yeah, though to be fair I think the middle path is totally fine for +10 keys, the scarab guy just has some nasty scaling so I expect him to be avoided on higher keys.
17:50 If you're a highmountain tauren druid/tank you can also use your Bull Rush racial to get out of the swirlys even when slowed by 100%. Just be careful not to charge into anything you did not mean to pull
Good tip!
Do you know if bull rush works on the SUCC for the boss? My worst nightmare in pugs is when I need to get to a puddle, and everyone is also using them. If I happen to choose the wrong direction and someone else takes the puddle, ggwp.
Most of the time I just try to save my survival instinct charges and tank it xD
Easiest dungeon of the season imo.
Yeah this one and mists seem to be on the easier end for +10 keys, will see how it scales once we get to +12s and up though haha,
poggers
Lol. Lmao even at Paladins. You know as well as everyone else no one is taking a Prot Pally into a 10.
Paladins are perfectly capable of doing +10 keys, hell they're even using one in the RWF. Besides, even if they aren't getting invites it doesn't mean there aren't Ppals out there making their own groups!
In 9-11 range what’s going to brick your key isn’t the tank dying. It’s people failing to interrupt casts or failing mechanics. Paladins are often cheese mode for both those problems. An aware prot pally can make a key almost trivial and the healer will be able to keep them alive because they won’t be covering other people’s damage as much. Don’t be a meta slave in 10s