Trigger Stacking and "What to do with a Crazy Horse".
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Warwick explains what Trigger Stacking is and how it may be affecting your horse. A review of the 13 Rabbit Story as well as the 2 Principles of Training: Don't Go To Bed Angry & Change One Thing At A Time.
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My husband just declared "one rabbit's worth of worry" his new favorite unit of measurement 😆
Warwick you might be interested to know that Jesse Berry described this Cup of Worry principle in the late 1800s in a correspondence course he taught. He was an interesting character. I post this just as a curious historical fact.
Thanks Ross. Yes I don't believe any of this is new, just new to some people.
HI Ross, I watched your video on the cup of worry and it was very helpful to me. This is the same principle
Still just as weird seeing old videos of people with masks on outside as it was seeing it for real in the begging of this ridiculous phase of our lives. But great video!! Trigger stacking!! I have a young mule who collects all the "rabbits" . Ha. Hes figuring it out .
I watched this morning before working with my mare. She was completely with me on the ground. Her saddle fits and has no pain per recent vet exam. Today apparently was a 4 rabbit day. We did lots of standing and letting her look before going to work. The wind, the dogs, the neighbors kids whistling with the wind all add up to 4 additional rabbits. We finished on a great note with a soft swinging trot and total concentration on what we were doing. Love the Rabbit analogy.
Thank you for bringing the science in. I train dogs professionally and in dog training, we use these terms for our clients. I have my own horses and have been looking for a teacher that uses the same methods and terms I know from dog training, you have helped me bridge the gap, as so far all I found with other trainers was the excessive use of force or dominance method which seems to miss the finer points in the horse's natural tendencies towards flight. I'm very happy to find your channel! Thank you.
Funny how this is true with people as well as animals, should be mandatory watching in school, let alone everyone whos got the stubbed toe
Almost like people are animals :)
I watch these videos in part, well because I love horses, but also because they're so relevant to people, too. Like me, today. Friday afternoon. Grrr.
Hello Shane Augustine 😊
I’m so happy I found Warwick’s channel. Recently worked with a horse that was a biter in a playful way. I just messed with his face when he came over and by the end he was licking and chewing. The time he spent trying to bite got shorter and I think one more session with him will help. I was honestly feeling hopeless with dealing with this horse but I’m glad we have professionals like this to help
Hello Julia N😊 how’s everything going with you?
Thank you thank you thank you! I have had a pretty shitty day started with failing my drivers test and down it went, at the end of the day is when I work with my horses and I definitely brought that frustration and anger when I was working with them and I was not as patient or forgiving as I should have been. I was still upset until I watched this video and you reminded me to let it go. I will go into tomorrow much happier. Thank you! Your videos are truly the best.
Hello Fenya Siepser 😊how are you doing today?
12 rabbit limit. i love it! makes total sense too.
Hello groovychic 😊
And so when my mare spots traffic on the main road that's a good couple of mile away when we're out hacking and her muscles go solid and she can't walk calmly her trigger limit has just hit the jackpot 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ And I'm guessing those triggers could have started to build all the way back to when I went to fetch her from the field, through saddling, getting on, leaving the yard... God its taken years for the penny to drop on this for me, but thanks to you Warwick (or should that be Maurcecio according to the CC 😂) I finally get it!
A marriage counsellor as well as a darn good horseman! Who knew? Great video, again. Thanks.
Marcia - love your comment😁 It's so true & a great lesson. The hard part is that you have to have both partners willing to do this. I really appreciate Warwick Schiller's kind of Zen awakening with horses in the past few years. His wife must like it too 😉 He's doing so much for owners/riders who want to evolve. Kudos
Hello Marcia McGrail 😊
This is very interesting and of course, so relevant. I wish you had elaborated more on getting the horse to “let go and relax the rabbit worry” in this clip. I am sure you have covered it many times, and will search through your large education library here to find it. Possibly, if you have time and are willing, maybe you could post a link to a relevant teaching video you have done in the credits of this one so folks can learn how to assist their horse in letting go of their “rabbits”. Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us all! You are a true horseman in my opinion!
Not rambling, very helpful! Can relate with the marriage analogy. I like the bringing
of valid psychology and science into the training. It brings everything into a more complete
picture and understanding. Cheers! ❣️🍀
Warwick Schiller giving me amazing horse handling advice along with marriage advice. 😂
Completely agree!!
Thank you so much for all the rabbits...🐇🐇🐇 helping us to understand!
Let' s always be aware! 😊🐴
Hello Luna Sara 😊how are you?
Omg you described my horse to a T. He could have been the one in the video. Thanks
Hello MaryKay Wohlert 😊
"It's got nothing to do with me." I like this presentation of the horse's mind. Also, maybe, "Warwick can be counted on to handle it if it's a problem," too?
Hello Brenda Reed 😊
This is amazing! I know that humans suffer from "trigger stacking" but never knew horses did. Warwick I have a QH gelding that you started/trained many years ago. Unfortunately in 2015 he lost an eye. He will be 22. Thank you.
Whats his name?
@@WarwickSchiller Registered name is Chocolate cocoa chex, but barn name is Tanner. I bought him in 2014.
@@rockinrosie123 Oh wow, we had him back around 2001
@@WarwickSchiller I have always been interested in how far he progressed in his training. His was great to ride. I am 75 and having some confidence issues since he lost his eye. But he is the sweetest guy. Thank you!
Good points, your little story at the beginning did hit close to home😉
Just gotta luv ya Warwick! Thanks for helping all us "Beings". :)
I wish I had a horse. Maybe in my next life🤠
As Popeye used to say, "I've had all I can stands and I can't stands no more!"
Yes!! Good comparison 🤣
Love hearing Popeye's quote again!
Have you made a video about cribbing/wind sucking? I can’t seem to find that much useful information about how to help these horses. Especially when they do it in open areas with nothing to bite/chew on. I’m guessing it’s a stress coping mechanism, but it’s hard to get these horses to relax.
Super video, as usual. 👏👏👏 This lesson fishtails perfectly with your video about how to prevent an accident ( which I wish I could find again). I believe you said it takes 7 things that are different or changed to create the path to an accident. Sadly, I can say - it's true.
What kind of work or excercise was done in between the recordings of day 1 and 2? What would I have to do to get my horse to learn to relax like the horse in the video at day 2?
That was me with my horse. Day 1 he was lead down into a part of the property he had never been into. I was clearly very worried when I was handling him -- the perp walk hold -- so I wasn't relaxed. All of those things added to his triggers. On the second day, I had learned not to "perp walk my horse" (thanks Warwick), he is often in that particular arena, and I was more relaxed. I recommend Warwick's relationship track to learn how to relax yourself and your horse. My horse and I have come along way both of us in learning relaxation.
This is an earlier video dealing with that particular clinic. ua-cam.com/video/xWTx_R2iPJk/v-deo.html As Mary says, if YOU are not relaxed, your horse won't be. Here is another video Warwick does in a similar situation. ua-cam.com/video/_AqvNrE6lVM/v-deo.html
Ver helpful clarification. Thank you.
This is great!
Thank you🐴🐴🐴
Please excuse poor spelling, Our Family Loves You, 😎👍🏻💕
I have found, with my sweet, smart Morab, That he fakes spooks! To get out of work! Cleaver is he! Once I tell him, quick it! he breathes and says, Aw, shucks! You got my number Mom. But, Mom, I was hoping I had your number!!! To get of out of work! 😅 Just my take of 22 years with my sweet, Morab boy. Nickname for my beloved Morab is, Denice the menace, 😀😅💕👍🏻👌🐴🙈 our family loves and appreciates you so much! Thank you , War for helping us to break it down and teach us how a horse interoperates, information, from engaged human beings! Thank you again,! 👍🏻😎💕
Hello Mary Lamb 😊
My horse at 5 decided that 3 screaming kids, a four wheeler, and a blowing “for sale” all at once was 13 rabbits.
Rabbits and trigger stacking is one of the most useful concepts in understanding horses that I've ever heard. But how do you help your horse let go of the worry? If you're out on the trail and rabbits keep popping up and you just keep going, obviously it's going to build up. So what do you do? Periodically stop and let the horse stand and relax and look around and maybe eat some grass? Stop and talk to your riding buddy for a few minutes? Distract the horse by doing a few of the horse's favorite clicker behaviors? Breathe, for sure!
Epona Warwick Schiller teaches you how to teach your horse to come down on their own from the triggers in his website
You teach the horse how to let go of his rabbits BEFORE you go on the trail ride. You didnt see the lady in the video do anything the second day of the clinic, the horse reset hinmslef.
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This older video from Warwick may give you some ideas. ua-cam.com/video/_AqvNrE6lVM/v-deo.html
@@terryst9835 Thank you!! That one is excellent, and certainly inspiring. Another one that I came across this morning was also very good. It was Season 3 Episode 6 of POT -- Creating Connection. It dealt with the issue of a horse being worried under saddle (the yellow horse Dale), how to recognize the worry (ears) and what to do (half halt was one suggestion) . It did help for Warwick to emphasize that the basic work comes before you go on the trail; that makes perfect sense. But my horse isn't basically worried, thankfully. So my question about what to do about multiple "surprises" on the trail was looking for ideas beyond that. Actually just being made aware that things can stack up is a huge help and not something I had realized before.
@@epona9166 You can always 'create' surprises at home in a controlled environment, and help her deal with them, see how she manages with that.
Great....
I love the G'day mate! also these r so helpful!
Still the best man👍🏼
That's funny, but true
Whoa...I never knew it had a name...
"The Last Straw" is another name for it. LOL
Do you have any solutions for this
i have a mare that’s really buddy sour, and when i go away she’s fine but it’s walking back she’ll blow up and rear and for me to get her to stop i have to get off and walk her to our destination and even when i’m walking out of the ally she’ll start rearing up and i can’t find anything wrong
if you have a solution pls let me know
Watch “the key to getting a young horse going forward and straight on their first ride”
Hi
i had a horse great horse but he would go spaz over nothing like he blacked out then bolt flat out the only way to stop him ram him in to a fence then he would wake up and it would be like nothing happened
so how do you get the horse to let go of the one rabbit worth of worry?
So, I gotta know, what is in your arena at home? It's so white and looks like a pristine beach, so pretty.
its a sand made from crushed dolomite
The last rabbit gave new information to the horse! I guess maybe that there is a snake ahead!!!
Sounds like 2020...
Quit calling your horse crazy. That is step one. The horse is trying to stay safe. Horses are prey animals and MUST react to danger to stay safe. It is natural. Humans have more brain power than horses do, please use it humans! Don’t put them in dangerous situations and then call them crazy for trying to defend themselves.
Good. I wait for love from you 💝💖
tooooo much talking ....people do have to think for themselves a bit and use their own instincts so just point out the basics. Yikes !! please remember that people don't ALL have to overthink thngs in order to to take action.
Constructive criticism never hurts anyone unless your blocking something.
People think that a 5 minute video is too long to listen to and wonder why they struggle with their horse …