just bought 2 Gs in thr same shape, got em both for 7 grand, around here(iowa) hard to find a decent G, and average oice here is 5500 and up. always wanted a G now I have 2!!
Oh man does it sound good! Three grand for tractor like that in that condition is a good deal! Still expensive yes but for model G in that condition for $3000 is a good deal!
I had an A, 60, 720,435, 4010, 3010, 3020, 4020, and a 2440, but, my favorite was a mint 530 that I bought from the original owner, now that was a sweet two cylinder
We figured the vibration out pretty quickly. The flywheel timing marks were clocked two splines (80 degrees) from where they should be. Accessing the bolts on the back side of the flywheel was a bear, but we got it. And now it's fixed. Runs much smoother. Video should be out in the next week or so. Thanks for the comment.
Those tractors get "pig dirty" just due to overall circumstances. Mud, dust, sand, and the like. You got a winner. Back then, farm profits were all so much better than today. Big Bad John rides again!
We had an a that vibrated like that,couldn't figure it out. We figured it was because it had a bit of play in the slots on the crankshaft. We changed the crankshaft but it still had the vibration. I kind of liked it because when idled down it ran like a hit and miss engine. We could tell which tractor ours was in a line up of tractors.
The entire tractor vibrated, and not just at idle. Hard to see in the video, but very apparent when driving it. Turns out the flywheel was clocked 80 degrees from where it should be. There are counterweights on both the flywheel and the clutch to balance the engine. If they are not timed/aligned, you get the vibration we had. We had a similar issue with an AR we picked up earlier this year, except it was the clutch. Here is a link to that video: ua-cam.com/video/5fR5b_nbdlQ/v-deo.html I should have a video out next week sometime showing what we found on this G. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
We use ethanol free gasoline on anything that's going to sit with fuel in the tank or carburetor for long periods of time. Since ethanol, which is just alcohol, is water soluble, water and moisture will be absorbed and then promote rusting and corrosion within a fuel tank, carburetor, and the rest of the fuel system. I suspect that's what happened here. If you use the tractor daily and are constantly using fuel before moisture can be absorbed and cause corrosion, it's probably not an issue. But that's just my thought process. It's been several years since I've been in a chemistry class.
I don't know why they didn't line up the air breather or the exhaust either... But it's nice because it makes it really easy to differentiate an A and a G from a distance! Ha ha!
That’s a dandy G! I used to have one just like it. The serial number on mine was 55777. I wish now I hadn’t sold it. I like my model 70, but there’s nothing like a G. 😃
@@boblackey1 Yeah, the transmission is exactly the same on the 70 as it is on the model G. My 70 has the high/low lever on it. Only difference is that my 70 has live PTO. Both are excellent tractors. 😀
@@MrEcm51 I've never driven a 70 but seen them and they pull good. This is me driving my uncle's 1947 G. He bought it new in July 1947. His son back on the wagon and two other sons own the farm now. ua-cam.com/video/MDWi4ivBhBk/v-deo.html And one of my cousins running the 1947 G another day. ua-cam.com/video/_H_LHRAg5NA/v-deo.html
I thought by 1952 that all the frames were the later styled tractors with the stamped frames. Not disagreeing with the year of your tractor, just trying to figure out the true year of my A. The serial number on it is confusing because one place it go to says one thing and the next place says another. It is a later model A because it has the stamped frame but has the same transmission as the early styled.
The model G never had a stamped steel frame. They never enclosed the flywheel or moved the starter to the underside of the tractor either. If your A has a stamped frame but still has the 3 speed transmission with hi/low, it's probably 47, 48, or 49. I think in 1950 the model A switched to the 1 stick transmission, square rear axle casting, and there are a couple other differences. But the model G never went to the pressed steel frame.
@@jonelsonster okay that explains never seeing a G with the stamped frame. The guy that sold me my A said it was a 1950 but I didn't think that it was because the A that I grew up on was a 1950 and that had the one stick shifter.
Thank you for the help on finding the year of my A though it gets me closer than I was searching the serial number.i had me from 1950 to 1955. Never once got the earlier years.
The model A underwent the most facelifts of any letter series John Deere tractor. If you have a parts book you’ll see the serial number breaks of all the changes they did concerning parts. It can be rather confusing.
G's never got the pressed steel frame and retained the Iron frame until the end of production in 53. They also never built a gas only model although I have herd that at the very end of production in 53 that a few were built. I don't have any facts on that but seem to remember a photo of one with a single gas tank and gas manifold. I've run the 70 gas and owned a 49 all fuel G that hadn't been converted to gas with high compression pistons and gas manifold. My impression, the 70 gas was a lot better tractor and a lot more economical to run and the diesel version even more so. Model 70 All Fuel models were just warmed over G's with the 70's styling changes. My dad and I farmed with a gas 49 A that from the factory had the same horsepower as the stock G and would do about the same work on a lot less fuel. by the mid fifties gasoline prices had gotten low and the cost savings of kerosene or tractor fuel was offset by the G's thirsty fuel consumption. Dad had the A bored out when he overhauled it and installed high compression aluminum pistons that brought its PTO hp. up to about 45 hp on the dealers dyno.
Our Deere R diesel would bounce the front tires close to a HALF INCH at idle at the right speed. I guess they ALL do that. It, the R was my 10th Birthday present. Running that thing was about like putting a 5 gallon steel bucket over your head and having 4 or 5 friends beat the ever loving daylights out of that bucket with baseball bats. I disked 20 acres of ground to sow oats one afternoon, got done about 3-4 PM in the afternoon. Woke up twice that night with my ears still ringing. There was NO such thing as "Hearing Protection" back then. I don't remember Dad ever running it. Dad did run it 20 miles to his favorite Deere mechanic for a tune-up, almost a 2 hour trip both ways, 11 mph road gear. Township road commissioner bought it from Dad, still had 22 acres left to plow, quick job for our Super M-TA FARMALL. TOWNSHIP wanted the R to drag roads before oiling, and chewing up chunks of oiled dirt pavement scarified up with a heavy-duty rotoliller. That knocked the live PTO drivetrain out FOUR TIMES in Four years. DID DEERE field test the R at ALL? The 2 cylinder pony motor was in no way able to spin the diesel engine over more than one hole, maybe two, at a time. Not sure what happened to t 7:50 he R, nobody in our township would have bought it. Oh, no center main bearing on the diesel engine crankshaft of an R, Salesman told Dad NEVER LUG IT, when the crankshaft breaks just scrap the whole tractor. I spent most of the spring pulling an IH #8 3-14 plow in 3rd gear.
Check out my video on magneto, distributor, and carburetor options. The literature shows the magneto continued to be an option on the model A, B, and G through the end of production. Here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/GXb62ig-NLE/v-deo.html
I owned a 49 G and 52 A for about 17 years during the 90's and through 2007. I maintained a fuel stabilizer in my 89+ octane pump gas as per the local ag fuel distributor's recommendation. I also added Marvel Mystery Oil to my fuel as well. No fuel problems during the time that I owned the tractors. My G originally had a DLTX73 carb that I later swapped out for the DLTX51 that was original to the G. Quit frankly I couldn't tell a difference in power although the heaviest load that I put on the G was running a brush hog mower.
Great comment! In 2005 ethanol began to be added to pump gasoline up to 10%. Ethnol is an alcohol, which is water soluble. This makes water more likely to dissolve into solution, causing problems with corrosion in the fuel system. The fuel's "shelf life" is also reduced. That seems to have been a major contributor to this G's problems. We use ethnol free fuel and that seems to help. We haven't tried additives. We are at a high elevation (5000 feet) so we haven't had to worry about higher octane fuel. The elevation combined with the low compression of the engines doesn't seem to need premium fuels.
@@jonelsonster Yes, the old two cylinder Deere tractors do not need higher octane fuel and would probably run fine on distilled mule piss but from what I gathered from my local ag fuel distributor was that the higher octane fuel had a few more additives and retained a higher octane over time and stored better. The best long term storage is with leaded high octane aviation gas. At any rate my mix of StaBil and Marvel Mystery Oil worked well for me and seemed to store well over time although a month seldom went by when I didn’t have them out doing something.
Yeah, it'll be fun. But we'll need to find a bigger plow. We have three 2 bottom trip plows and a couple of single bottom plows. Hopefully someone in the club will let us borrow a 3 bottom plow.
just bought 2 Gs in thr same shape, got em both for 7 grand, around here(iowa) hard to find a decent G, and average oice here is 5500 and up. always wanted a G now I have 2!!
Oh man does it sound good! Three grand for tractor like that in that condition is a good deal! Still expensive yes but for model G in that condition for $3000 is a good deal!
I had an A, 60, 720,435, 4010, 3010, 3020, 4020, and a 2440, but, my favorite was a mint 530 that I bought from the original owner, now that was a sweet two cylinder
Very cool.
I want a g
That is a nice looking G! Looking forward to the videos showing the fuel tank cleaning and fixing the vibration!
We figured the vibration out pretty quickly. The flywheel timing marks were clocked two splines (80 degrees) from where they should be. Accessing the bolts on the back side of the flywheel was a bear, but we got it. And now it's fixed. Runs much smoother. Video should be out in the next week or so. Thanks for the comment.
Those tractors get "pig dirty" just due to overall circumstances. Mud, dust, sand, and the like. You got a winner. Back then, farm profits were all so much better than today. Big Bad John rides again!
Thanks 👍 You make a good point!
We had an a that vibrated like that,couldn't figure it out. We figured it was because it had a bit of play in the slots on the crankshaft. We changed the crankshaft but it still had the vibration. I kind of liked it because when idled down it ran like a hit and miss engine. We could tell which tractor ours was in a line up of tractors.
What exactly do you mean by the vibration at the front? I own 2 2 Cylinders and both shake the front end like that at idle.
The entire tractor vibrated, and not just at idle. Hard to see in the video, but very apparent when driving it. Turns out the flywheel was clocked 80 degrees from where it should be. There are counterweights on both the flywheel and the clutch to balance the engine. If they are not timed/aligned, you get the vibration we had. We had a similar issue with an AR we picked up earlier this year, except it was the clutch. Here is a link to that video: ua-cam.com/video/5fR5b_nbdlQ/v-deo.html
I should have a video out next week sometime showing what we found on this G.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Sure looks and sounds good. Like you said, it needs a good cleaning out.
For sure!
Sweet G !!
"Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌👍🇺🇸
One question I have about a tractor like that do you recommend non-ethanol gasoline For a tractor like that?
We use ethanol free gasoline on anything that's going to sit with fuel in the tank or carburetor for long periods of time. Since ethanol, which is just alcohol, is water soluble, water and moisture will be absorbed and then promote rusting and corrosion within a fuel tank, carburetor, and the rest of the fuel system. I suspect that's what happened here.
If you use the tractor daily and are constantly using fuel before moisture can be absorbed and cause corrosion, it's probably not an issue.
But that's just my thought process. It's been several years since I've been in a chemistry class.
@@jonelsonster thanks
More videos on the G please! I’m redoing a 52 g
That’s a beautiful tractor. I never could understand why Deere didn’t line up the air cleaner and exhaust like on the A&B though
Couldnt ever answer that but its so much nicer
I don't know why they didn't line up the air breather or the exhaust either... But it's nice because it makes it really easy to differentiate an A and a G from a distance! Ha ha!
@@jonelsonster that’s the truth. It’s how I can tell an A from. G. The B just looks tiny haha.
Do you have the stub shaft for hand starting ?
Nope. We have a hand crank for our LA and our M, but not for any of our horizontal 2 cylinders.
That’s a dandy G! I used to have one just like it.
The serial number on mine was 55777. I wish now I hadn’t sold it. I like my model 70, but there’s nothing like a G. 😃
70 has the same transmission as a G does it not. Not sure 70 was an improvement. A good G is a great tractor for it's size.
@@boblackey1 Yeah, the transmission is exactly the same on the 70 as it is on the model G.
My 70 has the high/low lever on it. Only difference is that my 70 has live PTO. Both are excellent tractors. 😀
@@MrEcm51 I've never driven a 70 but seen them and they pull good. This is me driving my uncle's 1947 G. He bought it new in July 1947. His son back on the wagon and two other sons own the farm now.
ua-cam.com/video/MDWi4ivBhBk/v-deo.html
And one of my cousins running the 1947 G another day.
ua-cam.com/video/_H_LHRAg5NA/v-deo.html
G stands for gas guzzling Godzilla good golden general G
Ha! I've never heard that before. That's good.
@@jonelsonster good golden g. To lol
I have a 1947 G , ran into the same problem with the fuel tank . I used POR 15 to clean and coat the tank . it's work great for the last ten years
Great advice!
As you dad was pulling it in to the shop, was it running on 1 cylinder?
It was definitely idling rough, but I think it was still hitting on both cylinders.
@@jonelsonster Ok, Thanks👍
Pretty much stole it for 3k, great buy!
Thanks for the encouragement!
Nice lookin
Thanks!
I thought by 1952 that all the frames were the later styled tractors with the stamped frames. Not disagreeing with the year of your tractor, just trying to figure out the true year of my A. The serial number on it is confusing because one place it go to says one thing and the next place says another. It is a later model A because it has the stamped frame but has the same transmission as the early styled.
The model G never had a stamped steel frame. They never enclosed the flywheel or moved the starter to the underside of the tractor either.
If your A has a stamped frame but still has the 3 speed transmission with hi/low, it's probably 47, 48, or 49. I think in 1950 the model A switched to the 1 stick transmission, square rear axle casting, and there are a couple other differences. But the model G never went to the pressed steel frame.
@@jonelsonster okay that explains never seeing a G with the stamped frame. The guy that sold me my A said it was a 1950 but I didn't think that it was because the A that I grew up on was a 1950 and that had the one stick shifter.
Thank you for the help on finding the year of my A though it gets me closer than I was searching the serial number.i had me from 1950 to 1955. Never once got the earlier years.
The model A underwent the most facelifts of any letter series John Deere tractor. If you have a parts book you’ll see the serial number breaks of all the changes they did concerning parts. It can be rather confusing.
G's never got the pressed steel frame and retained the Iron frame until the end of production in 53. They also never built a gas only model although I have herd that at the very end of production in 53 that a few were built. I don't have any facts on that but seem to remember a photo of one with a single gas tank and gas manifold. I've run the 70 gas and owned a 49 all fuel G that hadn't been converted to gas with high compression pistons and gas manifold. My impression, the 70 gas was a lot better tractor and a lot more economical to run and the diesel version even more so. Model 70 All Fuel models were just warmed over G's with the 70's styling changes. My dad and I farmed with a gas 49 A that from the factory had the same horsepower as the stock G and would do about the same work on a lot less fuel. by the mid fifties gasoline prices had gotten low and the cost savings of kerosene or tractor fuel was offset by the G's thirsty fuel consumption. Dad had the A bored out when he overhauled it and installed high compression aluminum pistons that brought its PTO hp. up to about 45 hp on the dealers dyno.
Nice oldies
Thanks!
Our Deere R diesel would bounce the front tires close to a HALF INCH at idle at the right speed. I guess they ALL do that. It, the R was my 10th Birthday present. Running that thing was about like putting a 5 gallon steel bucket over your head and having 4 or 5 friends beat the ever loving daylights out of that bucket with baseball bats. I disked 20 acres of ground to sow oats one afternoon, got done about 3-4 PM in the afternoon. Woke up twice that night with my ears still ringing. There was NO such thing as "Hearing Protection" back then. I don't remember Dad ever running it. Dad did run it 20 miles to his favorite Deere mechanic for a tune-up, almost a 2 hour trip both ways, 11 mph road gear. Township road commissioner bought it from Dad, still had 22 acres left to plow, quick job for our Super M-TA FARMALL. TOWNSHIP wanted the R to drag roads before oiling, and chewing up chunks of oiled dirt pavement scarified up with a heavy-duty rotoliller. That knocked the live PTO drivetrain out FOUR TIMES in Four years. DID DEERE field test the R at ALL? The 2 cylinder pony motor was in no way able to spin the diesel engine over more than one hole, maybe two, at a time. Not sure what happened to t 7:50 he R, nobody in our township would have bought it. Oh, no center main bearing on the diesel engine crankshaft of an R, Salesman told Dad NEVER LUG IT, when the crankshaft breaks just scrap the whole tractor. I spent most of the spring pulling an IH #8 3-14 plow in 3rd gear.
We have an R too. A very good old tractor.
Nice
Thanks
Tractor should have a DLTX51
Yes, we have a big but carburetor. Right now we have it running with the DLTX 71. They'll run fine on either.
Paid top $. It is nice.
Thanks
I believe the very late A, B, and G tractors had a distributor as new tractors.
Check out my video on magneto, distributor, and carburetor options. The literature shows the magneto continued to be an option on the model A, B, and G through the end of production.
Here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/GXb62ig-NLE/v-deo.html
Wished I live in the country where I could own a John deere tractor. I love those pup pups . Bo
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sounds great, looks great!
Thanks a lot!
Had a John Deere G that bounced the same way just like ever other John Deere tractor with 2 cyl horizonal engines did.
The flywheel on this tractor was not timed correctly, which made the engine out of balance. That is what was causing the excessive vibration.
$3,000 a good price for that G. Never seen one with a water pump. Great video thanks.
Thanks 👍
$3,000 a good price for that G. Never seen one with a water pump. Great video thanks.
Thanks 👍
We have a JD D, is blowing oil out the exhaust, starts and runs perfect after you clean the plugs
Wow!
That tractor is a All fuel....why not use the smaller gas tank...that things made to run on bad gas.......your only running on one cylinder
Yes, we ended up needing to address several issues we found. Fuel and ignition systems were both overhauled.
When a glorious sound to hear one running & then attach a sickle mower. 😎
We don't have a mounted mower, but we do have some pull type plows that make it sound really good.
Late model Gs had distributers not coil. We had a 52 model. Grew up on it
A distributor will still need a coil.
I owned a 49 G and 52 A for about 17 years during the 90's and through 2007. I maintained a fuel stabilizer in my 89+ octane pump gas as per the local ag fuel distributor's recommendation. I also added Marvel Mystery Oil to my fuel as well. No fuel problems during the time that I owned the tractors. My G originally had a DLTX73 carb that I later swapped out for the DLTX51 that was original to the G. Quit frankly I couldn't tell a difference in power although the heaviest load that I put on the G was running a brush hog mower.
Great comment! In 2005 ethanol began to be added to pump gasoline up to 10%. Ethnol is an alcohol, which is water soluble. This makes water more likely to dissolve into solution, causing problems with corrosion in the fuel system. The fuel's "shelf life" is also reduced. That seems to have been a major contributor to this G's problems. We use ethnol free fuel and that seems to help. We haven't tried additives. We are at a high elevation (5000 feet) so we haven't had to worry about higher octane fuel. The elevation combined with the low compression of the engines doesn't seem to need premium fuels.
@@jonelsonster Yes, the old two cylinder Deere tractors do not need higher octane fuel and would probably run fine on distilled mule piss but from what I gathered from my local ag fuel distributor was that the higher octane fuel had a few more additives and retained a higher octane over time and stored better. The best long term storage is with leaded high octane aviation gas. At any rate my mix of StaBil and Marvel Mystery Oil worked well for me and seemed to store well over time although a month seldom went by when I didn’t have them out doing something.
Can’t wait to see the G in action in front of a plow!
Yeah, it'll be fun. But we'll need to find a bigger plow. We have three 2 bottom trip plows and a couple of single bottom plows. Hopefully someone in the club will let us borrow a 3 bottom plow.