But some of the comments posted here, it’s disappointing to see how arrogant and dismissive some people can be. A professional restorer does not use harsh abrasives or chemicals to restore a coin. Unless you know what you’re doing, ‘restore’ a coin at your own risk!
Experts? To see that guy at 1:41 handling a coin with a drop below it down to the floor, with no work bench under his hands if he dropped it, makes me sick. Experts at cleaning coins 'without altering the surface beneath'.
Yeah and potentially dropping your most valuable coins on the floor! I was thinking the same thing. Dudes hands were shaking when he was moving it under the microscope too, scary.
yea i have a timeless treasure is my 1932 i would love to see you guys conserve it 1930s canadian quarters are rare in mint state due to the great depression
The coins looked nice after cleaning. But how can you tell if a coin is worth sending in to grade in the first place wit all the crap on em? And then get a garbage not worth it grade after for real!--- thats a great question but i guess that if you didnt like the grade after you received your now legit cleaned coin then you could crack it outta the slab and now you paid all that money to just have a professiknally cleaned coin.
Seems hypocritical. NGC rejects coins or won't grade them because they are cleaned. Conservation is another name for cleaning, no matter what you call it. Doing it under the guise of numismatic experts doesn't change the fact that they're just coin doctors same as a backyard dipper.
If you dip coins correctly at home they won't be marked as improperly cleaned. It's not hypocritical because they give details grades to improperly cleaned coins implying that there is a proper way to do it.
@@sostroff30 Hmmmm so then shouldn't it raise the grade of the coin? I have obtained coins that were put in three time capsules back in 1956 and 1957 and 1968 each has 54 coins in it. I one from two of them and both got grades of MS67+ and I never sent any from the very best time capsule which is the 1956 and I believe to know that they are much better so that if any one of them were sent in it would/should get a MS70+ in absolute 100% perfect condition all 54 of them the fronts the backs and the evenly sides. I am ready to sell/barter the first two which is valued all together at $399,600 and the ungraded one would probably fetch no less than $100,000 each coin or much more times 54 which is at the very least worth $5,400,000 up to $50 million for this capsule. Make me an offer/barter on the first two sets nice House/RV and advise me on the third one?
@@lprimm7515 In some cases it can, if the toning/issues had detracted from the grade. Otherwise, no. There's no such thing as an MS70+, and any coin from the 1950s or earlier isn't going to get an MS70... or even an MS69. This sounds like complete nonsense you're just making up. The dumbest part is that you haven't even specified what the coins you supposedly have are.
You should never improperly clean a coin. Conservation is different. You're just trying to restore the coin to the way it was originally, without doing damage to the surface of the coin. Yes it's cleaning but it's proper cleaning.
Basic Poke because the methods used are not harsh. None of the methods used will alter the surface metals, therefore, it is conservation instead of cleaning.
I had a rare 1879/O covered with dust and dirt and i cleaned just to see how it looks like without dirt...and i find out it has some original luster but a lot of hairlines in different spots of the field...i cleaned it with just water and liquid soap,and using gently cotton sticks
In short: it is cleaned, but the methods they use do not affect the coins' surfaces in any way, they simply remove foreign contamination from the coins. Full explanation: Cleaning isn't a bad thing in and of itself. The problem is when people clean coins at home using an abrasive or chemical that damages the coin, e.g. hairline scratches, unnnatural toning or luster, etc. This is easily noticeable damage and results in a "details: improperly cleaned" grade. Even mild abrasives such as paper towel or cotton can result in hairline scratches. Proper cleaning would never damage the coin's surface in any way. For example, soaking a silver or gold coin in pure acetone (not nail polish remover), rinsing with distilled water, and letting air dry. The coin's surface will be completely unaffected while any organic material is removed. The methods NCS use are probably similar to this, though likely with different chemicals for different coin compositions and contamination types. This type of cleaning would be completely indistinguishable from a coin that has never been cleaned. note: the acetone method will damage copper coins Sorry for the huge response, there's so much misinformation about cleaning coins out there that I want to set the record straight whenever I can. As a general rule of thumb the acetone method is the ONLY method anyone should ever use at home, and even then use it only when absolutely necessary to minimize the risk of damaging a coin.
Hello, I have a lot of old coins from Iraq. I want to sell them. The old coins are Faisal I, King of Iraq, and Ghazi I, King of Iraq. I have a lot of silver coins. I want to sell them all.
Understand that coin grading services are a scam. ANACS is the oldest and probably the best. But they don't play the game so everyone of these people belittle or downgrade their grading. You see, only God's chosen grading services are allowed into the high-dollar coin auction world. All others need not apply.
It's better for you to do this at home using baking soda, aluminum foil, a teaspoon of vinegar and a boiling pot of hot water: Never rub The baking soda at all around the coin [Baking soda is like micro bits of sand], never rub anything across these coins! 'leave it in a boiling' pot with aluminum foil and baking soda and two pinches of salt and a teaspoon of vinegar, the electrolytes will quickly react to the silver and the aluminum, Cleaning and reflecting surfaces, quickly remove the coins from the pot and place it in ice Cold water which helps to realign the molecular structure of the metal content which can repair Micro scratches. Depending on the tarnishment, I'll leave my silver coins in the pot rotating it [the pot with the water] around for a minimum of two minutes Chemically dipped coins has a washed out appearance about them, if you sent them to be graded it would be noticed and would be considered "improperly cleaned 🧼 " If you have an old coin whose details have been muffled due to circulation it is not a good idea to clean them at all but only if it's tarnished beyond recognition however, do not fully clean, allow most of its tarnish to remain. But if you have a circulated coin whose details have only been muffled by 10% you can fully restore its luster [clean] using the method above but I still wouldn't recommend it because it could be graded as 'detailed', cutting the value in half⬆️. A cheating tactic after fully cleaning a circulated coin is to leave it in vinegar for one hour or a few minutes depending on how much tone you want back with copper pennies without aluminum foil... Or use a boiled egg yolk, place the silver coin in a Ziploc bag with boiled egg yolk crushed up For a minimum of 15 hours...
Sorry buy I'll stick with good old toothpaste and a wire brush after an overnight soak in my special secret acid bath. Then I sell them on Ebay for mad money! Oh yeah!
OOOOOOOOOHHHHH, IT'S OK IF THEY CLEAN THEM!!!!!
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Yea, properly cleaned I suppose.
But some of the comments posted here, it’s disappointing to see how arrogant and dismissive some people can be. A professional restorer does not use harsh abrasives or chemicals to restore a coin. Unless you know what you’re doing, ‘restore’ a coin at your own risk!
NEVER NEVER EVER CLEAN A COIN!! But if you got $30, we will do it for you ROTFLMAO!
No! Never, ever IMPROPERLY clean a coin! 🙂
The reason ngc rejects coins for "improper cleaning" is because they want you to use their "proper" cleaning paid services.
As well you should unless you REALLY know what you're doing.
@@CapAnson12345 Doesn't take a genius to soak a coin in acetone to remove PVC slime.
Experts? To see that guy at 1:41 handling a coin with a drop below it down to the floor, with no work bench under his hands if he dropped it, makes me sick. Experts at cleaning coins 'without altering the surface beneath'.
Yeah and potentially dropping your most valuable coins on the floor! I was thinking the same thing. Dudes hands were shaking when he was moving it under the microscope too, scary.
yea i have a timeless treasure is my 1932 i would love to see you guys conserve it 1930s canadian quarters are rare in mint state due to the great depression
How did NCS change the date on that French coin? What do they charge for that service?
hey I noticed that too I think it went from 1938 to 1958 Deception or Example?
NCS Conservation = "official" coin cleaning
The coins looked nice after cleaning. But how can you tell if a coin is worth sending in to grade in the first place wit all the crap on em? And then get a garbage not worth it grade after for real!--- thats a great question but i guess that if you didnt like the grade after you received your now legit cleaned coin then you could crack it outta the slab and now you paid all that money to just have a professiknally cleaned coin.
NGC: when we clean coins its called restoring back its look. when peasants people do it its called cleaning coins. make it make since
Do they use tarnex?
Seems hypocritical. NGC rejects coins or won't grade them because they are cleaned. Conservation is another name for cleaning, no matter what you call it. Doing it under the guise of numismatic experts doesn't change the fact that they're just coin doctors same as a backyard dipper.
If you dip coins correctly at home they won't be marked as improperly cleaned. It's not hypocritical because they give details grades to improperly cleaned coins implying that there is a proper way to do it.
@@sostroff30 Hmmmm so then shouldn't it raise the grade of the coin? I have obtained coins that were put in three time capsules back in 1956 and 1957 and 1968 each has 54 coins in it. I one from two of them and both got grades of MS67+ and I never sent any from the very best time capsule which is the 1956 and I believe to know that they are much better so that if any one of them were sent in it would/should get a MS70+ in absolute 100% perfect condition all 54 of them the fronts the backs and the evenly sides. I am ready to sell/barter the first two which is valued all together at $399,600 and the ungraded one would probably fetch no less than $100,000 each coin or much more times 54 which is at the very least worth $5,400,000 up to $50 million for this capsule. Make me an offer/barter on the first two sets nice House/RV and advise me on the third one?
@@lprimm7515 In some cases it can, if the toning/issues had detracted from the grade. Otherwise, no.
There's no such thing as an MS70+, and any coin from the 1950s or earlier isn't going to get an MS70... or even an MS69. This sounds like complete nonsense you're just making up. The dumbest part is that you haven't even specified what the coins you supposedly have are.
You should never improperly clean a coin. Conservation is different. You're just trying to restore the coin to the way it was originally, without doing damage to the surface of the coin. Yes it's cleaning but it's proper cleaning.
These coins are not considered cleaned? If not, how so?
Basic Poke because the methods used are not harsh. None of the methods used will alter the surface metals, therefore, it is conservation instead of cleaning.
I had a rare 1879/O covered with dust and dirt and i cleaned just to see how it looks like without dirt...and i find out it has some original luster but a lot of hairlines in different spots of the field...i cleaned it with just water and liquid soap,and using gently cotton sticks
In short: it is cleaned, but the methods they use do not affect the coins' surfaces in any way, they simply remove foreign contamination from the coins.
Full explanation:
Cleaning isn't a bad thing in and of itself. The problem is when people clean coins at home using an abrasive or chemical that damages the coin, e.g. hairline scratches, unnnatural toning or luster, etc. This is easily noticeable damage and results in a "details: improperly cleaned" grade. Even mild abrasives such as paper towel or cotton can result in hairline scratches.
Proper cleaning would never damage the coin's surface in any way. For example, soaking a silver or gold coin in pure acetone (not nail polish remover), rinsing with distilled water, and letting air dry. The coin's surface will be completely unaffected while any organic material is removed. The methods NCS use are probably similar to this, though likely with different chemicals for different coin compositions and contamination types. This type of cleaning would be completely indistinguishable from a coin that has never been cleaned.
note: the acetone method will damage copper coins
Sorry for the huge response, there's so much misinformation about cleaning coins out there that I want to set the record straight whenever I can. As a general rule of thumb the acetone method is the ONLY method anyone should ever use at home, and even then use it only when absolutely necessary to minimize the risk of damaging a coin.
@@Xoofey what about ez est coin cleaner?
@@MrThe1234guy That's a sulfuric acid based cleaner, so no don't use that. Just don't clean your coins, it's better that way
Lol all they are doing is dipping coins , you can do this at home for incredibly cheap
If you know what you're doing. Also, they're using proprietary solutions here.
Hello, I have a lot of old coins from Iraq. I want to sell them. The old coins are Faisal I, King of Iraq, and Ghazi I, King of Iraq. I have a lot of silver coins. I want to sell them all.
What do I need to PROPERLY clean my own coins? I am sure I can buy it on Amazon.
Check out that EZ clean stuff
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Numismatic conversion services I have 1893 o Morgan dollar how to sell these dollar please answer me beacuse Iam from Pakistan
how does it work?
Chemicals nigga
What he said 🤣🤔😭
2:17 l'horreur! who da hell did that? Cecilia Gimenez?
Understand that coin grading services are a scam. ANACS is the oldest and probably the best. But they don't play the game so everyone of these people belittle or downgrade their grading. You see, only God's chosen grading services are allowed into the high-dollar coin auction world. All others need not apply.
That and anacs has the ugliest slabs ever...they should have stuck with their old slabs.
We’ll fucking done a
What a video
It's better for you to do this at home using baking soda, aluminum foil, a teaspoon of vinegar and a boiling pot of hot water:
Never rub The baking soda at all around the coin [Baking soda is like micro bits of sand], never rub anything across these coins!
'leave it in a boiling' pot with aluminum foil and baking soda and two pinches of salt and a teaspoon of vinegar, the electrolytes will quickly react to the silver and the aluminum, Cleaning and reflecting surfaces, quickly remove the coins from the pot and place it in ice Cold water which helps to realign the molecular structure of the metal content which can repair Micro scratches.
Depending on the tarnishment, I'll leave my silver coins in the pot rotating it [the pot with the water] around for a minimum of two minutes
Chemically dipped coins has a washed out appearance about them, if you sent them to be graded it would be noticed and would be considered "improperly cleaned 🧼 "
If you have an old coin whose details have been muffled due to circulation it is not a good idea to clean them at all but only if it's tarnished beyond recognition however, do not fully clean, allow most of its tarnish to remain.
But if you have a circulated coin whose details have only been muffled by 10% you can fully restore its luster [clean] using the method above but I still wouldn't recommend it because it could be graded as 'detailed', cutting the value in half⬆️.
A cheating tactic after fully cleaning a circulated coin is to leave it in vinegar for one hour or a few minutes depending on how much tone you want back with copper pennies without aluminum foil...
Or use a boiled egg yolk, place the silver coin in a Ziploc bag with boiled egg yolk crushed up For a minimum of 15 hours...
hell no. just use acetone
Remove the film? 99% of these coins are just “cleaned with acetone. You can get acetone, dip a coin in the acetone and then use a q-tip on it.
I’d go really easy with the q-tip, but yes, an acetone dip is pretty safe to do with most coins.
I have a American coin from 1795 ,I will sell it
nice
NCS cleaned my coin and PCGS WOULD NOT GRADE IT!
Are you telling the truth? Did that really happen?
If PCGS wouldn't grade it at all, then it had bigger problems. They slab cleaned coins.
Sorry buy I'll stick with good old toothpaste and a wire brush after an overnight soak in my special secret acid bath. Then I sell them on Ebay for mad money! Oh yeah!
George Hans Cook is that you ?