My RS 250, which i'm guessing has less than this is running 320ish bhp with nothing but a decent rolling road setup, an ITG foam panel filter and a 3 inch decat exhaust paired with a stainless steel manifold(unsure of the brand as it was on the car when i got it). Above that sort of level you're looking at wanting to improve cooling, and possibly hybrid or larger replacement turbo set-ups. 320 feels like enough for me anyway, the car is faster than I am.
+UnseenSpirit Yeah I know. It's crazy. You waste time reading a completely irrelevant post, and the poster will never recieve relevant answers to his. Then there are people who blogs their thoughts, through posting in ramdom videos, that make them think about something cool. As annoying as fuck as it is, it's easy to live with, and fun to comment about. :)
Very good rider, very good driver. Car driver didn't take up the challenge at first, then started pushing hard and almost overcooked one corner. Rider realised car was serious so responded by getting closer to 'max effort' towards the end. Both seriously talented. Also very good track etiquette by those overtaken. Great to watch!
I couldn't agree more. Super talent on driver and rider. There was a couple time the car could've overtaken the bike but would've chopped his line off causing him to crash.. The Ring is NOT the place to have a high speed crash. Kudos to both for being Zen... pushing hard but staying truly calm.
The bike rider is Swiss from the mountainous south east canton 'Grisons' or Graubünden. He is very fluid and smooth, keeping the corners round, that's what makes him so fast. No overloading the tyres with abrupt manoeuvres. Pure delight to watch. His straight line acceleration is amazing too. Great video.
Keeping corners round makes bikes slow. Super bikes have to square off and late apex to use the power to the advantage. This guys using the same lines as a 400cc bike
@@Stoater1 well, it weighs 400lbs and makes 200hp and will beat a Bugatti vey Ron in the quarter mile. I take my race bike to circuit tracks about 2-3times a month. I know what I’m talking about. The thunder hill west car record is 1:20 held by a McLaren. I ran a 1:10 a month ago on a 600cc race bike.... people are clueless about the true capability of these machines. The truth is it take immense amounts of skill to be fast on a bike
That dude has to be a club/former racer of some sorts. He is absolutely amazing with his lines, massive acceleration off the corners and he kisses all the apex superbly. My heart would beat out my chest at that pace. Well done.
DaWhat79 You can tell in the first 30 seconds that is NOT his first trip around the Ring....maybe his 101st lol. Nice smooth full-throttle kneedragging lines through blind corner sets belies serious track knowledge.
That motorcycle's lines were beautiful. Dude knows the track and his bike. Megane guy was good too though. Cool to see the difference between bikes and cars in the turns.
+future62 The poetry of bike and rider is the best spectacle in motorsports. A cyclist has to use his body as well as his/her technique and driving skill.
+future62 totally agree. At 0:35 I thought the biker missed the apex of the corner, but it was just longer than I thought and he ended up hitting the apex bang on. Great form and body position as well, proper leaning and even some knee dragging in there, very brave for a track like the ring that normally isn't so well maintained. He must be a regular.
+future62 i was thinking the same thing. his confidence around other cars, knowledge of the track and his aggressiveness in the turns were almost god-like. either this guy rides the ring everyday religiously or he's a gp racer.
Ragnar Lodbrok - as it says above, the rider is on the Yamaha team & races for them in cup series races so I’d say he hitting it pretty damn fast. I’m guessing he’s hitting at least 250-275 k’s in the straights & as to car vs motorcycle cornering, it all depends on the individual pilots.
Ragnar Lodbrok - excuses, excuses .... as I said, it depends on the pilot, which is why I gave you the example. You’d NEVER stand a chance keeping up with Marc Marquez, in fact if you even tried, they would be cleaning you up off of the track after you high sided.
would love to see a good tt rider with a well set up machine on here.. would be a pretty serious after some practice and a clean track.. looks like the R1 has the advantage on the straits..
If driving a car around the nordschleife is challenging, imagine riding a bike which uses every ounce of your own physical endurance and skill to maneuver and gain speed. That man is amazing
And that's the key... They knows the circuit well. I wanted to do Isle of the man tt, but it would take me a good year or more to learn the lines. Great job by both operators 👍🏾👊🏾💯.
+Sunyata i remember seeing a clip of a very old audi 80, one of the earliest models, running a 1600 with carbs, annoying the shit out of some porsches in the corners. they couldnt get rid of it.
+Pascal Dopmeijer I had that in practice sessions at Daytona. I would crush him on the high speed sections, then he'd take my lunch money in the infield. Took me 3 laps to keep him back there. Was a blast though. My gearing was wrong, but no excuses. (I was on a 600, not a liter bike)
Man that guy on the bike was super impressive! Such clean lines. After driving cars for 6 years and riding bikes for just over a year I find riding much more fun yet harder than driving a car especially when i want to go fast. Riding a bike this fast requires a whole new level of skill.
bishpls never drove a car in my 42 years of life, but can say from my gran turismo gaming it takes skill. riding bikes yea can tell you from experience that takes skill.
uneducated, i must say. riding like that inst very diificult especialy when using countersteering and getting the right line is just a matter of knowing the track, do some track riding and you will see
@@babboon5764 Bikes have big disadvantages in corners and need to lower their speed much more than cars. On a straight the BMW would have blown him away in the sense you mean.
@@Rondo2ooo Oh for sure when its really twisty, but a lot of that was gentle curves which really wouldn't faze a bike. On top of that, the S1000RR is just pehenomenally fast on acceleration. Unless & until you get chance to ride one on a track or some very empty roads its hard to appreciate just *how* fast it does accelerate. (Vibrates through the bars like a sodding angle grinder 'though ~ Or to be exact at least the early version did)
the biker is a top lad, and he obviously knows this track like the back of his hand. I'd say he's a regular and has covered many laps round there. just watch his lines, he's no stranger to that place.
Simon Watts no I just can't. I plan on getting my first bike to commute around town, my v8 is just so thirsty and a bit of a pain to drive. I'm definitely looking to get something a bit tame
Jeremiah Steele If you're looking for something cheap, with automatic gearbox, confortable and nimble (but not fast) a scooter looks like a good choice.
Guilherme Keimi Goto i have looked into a few scooters and might still get one. But the dual sport type bikes have appealed most to me so far. I still have a lot of time though.
Jeremiah Steele Get a dual sport. They are the definition of fun(scooters are the definition of boredom). ESPECIALLY if you have offroad paths close to you, you're gonna have the time of your life.
@MrCES22 Dangerous of you to think there is no speed limit. If its not a race, regular german road laws/rules apply. But there are no radars and thus no risk of getting a speeding ticket. Insurances usually exclude these parts of german roads for obvious reasons.
I was also surprised and the megane driver seems to do it without big efforts. However it makes perfect sense because the biker only benefits from the power to weight ratio when accelerating. No matter how good the biker is, it is almost impossible to compensate the traction of additional weigt and four wheels in the bends. Just didn't expect to notice that difference so obviously. Another example why the two wheels should be separated from the four wheels during touristenfahrten. Big fun doesn't have to come with great risks. My opinion...
Average track rider. The others were just out for a Sunday dream living session. Put a biker with race experience on that machine and POOOOF ... + 20mph lap average. Off into the distance she goes! Put Rossi on and it's a trailblaze! Great for that car to even keep up though! Kudos to the driver. It isn't a fair fight!
@@LukasM_24 Why dont you thick twats understand one does it on 2 inches of tyre, the other does it on prob 3 feet of tyre in total, dumb as fk, all of you.
Great driving by both, very interesting to see the difference between the bike pulling away on the straight sections (1:59) and how much the car gains through the corners.
Due to bikes low weights, they have far superior acceleration but a lower top speed due to engine size restrictions (frame not big enough for a large engine). Because a car has a much greater wheelbase, they can carry more speed through the corners due to increased friction with the road, and using the moment of the vehicle to increase reaction force thus friction on the outside tyres. Furthermore, since a car has a greater surface area to manipulate downforce, they also carry more speed through corners that way. The biggest factor, I already mentioned, is the wheelbase differences. Good observation!
Scott K stop talking nonsense, cars are faster in corners due to their stability, if he pushed any harder he would of high sided or low sided. That been said I can probably count on one hand the amount of road legal cars that can beat this bike in a straight line.
@@0Zolrender0 then what do you call the person riding on the back of a motorcycle, behind the person controlling it?! and what do you call a passenger riding in a car, but not driving it?! Have you ever gone for a ride in a car?! much ado over semantics!
Always difficult to judge from a video just how hard the cars are cornering but here we have a really nice visual representation of the effort involved. Very nice driving from both parties.
Why all the hate? The Megane has less than HALF the BHP/ton so it is quite respectable. Both are fast in their own respect. Of course the bike will pull away at any acceleration segments, and you see the Megane reeling in the bike at EVERY braking and cornering point.
The car is like the toyota lmp car and the bike is like the porsche! Bike just pulls away in straights but the car catches him in corners despite being heavier mikemclarenf1
Impressive, most impressive. The commitment from that biker is insane and when they accelerate out of the corners, it gives a great sense of the speed. What a talent.....awesome video.
You can occasionally see the tail lights of my bike ahead of these two riders. Tough to make out on this video. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
the driver and rider both have skills !! I can get around a track fast but add in rough road conditions and slow riders and drivers and I would have been as slow as those two bikes that got passed ... all riders think they are fast on the street but when they get too a track they realize they never even came close to the capabilities of their bike then you see a rider like this and it amazes me... it takes lots of skill /trust and a monster set of ballz to go that fast on the ring
yes, ALL of them, EVERY SINGLE ONE you must not ride at all kiddo... this is GERMANY, thats in EUROPE they ALL know how to fucking ride, this isnt fucking yankyland with sandals and slippers on a busa
@@bishplis7226 epic fail man, ive seen plenty of Euro's with noob riding skills. YT is full of them from the US to Europe. We have more ppl and more roads so we have more beginners. As well as more tracks, 48 mainland states with some having up to 8 tracks in one state.
So jealous you have a place like that to go to. And I was moving my head, looking ahead at the turns along the track and shifting my body as if I am riding. Thanks for the nice camera set up. Damn! Biker was a poetry in motion. Loved each and every second of the track!
Beautiful....rider has balls the size of coconuts. No margin for error, none.... hit every apex.. Kudos to the Megane driver, didn't get totally dropped by the bike... Ridden like a boss....hat off to you sir.
Awesome. The cornering disadvantage of the bike and the acceleration disadvantage of the car made for an interesting run. Nice. Bet the bike was long gone on that long straight though.
It's a drive disadvantage of the rider, not the bike. People think that a car is 40% faster than a bike on a corner that's ignorance in it's purest form. Bikes can carry even more speed than a normale sportscar or a street legals supercar in mid corner.
Лоренцо Шулло lmfao I’m guessing you never ridden the ring, a civic type R with a skill driver is gonna outpace even a professional rider on this track
@@SteezeN Why people add stupid comment without understand the first? I can't reply to you man, it's just a waste of time, sorry. Just to let you know anyway. In 2008 with a stock R1 an amateur did 7.10 BTG. An amateur. With a 08 stock bike with sloppy suspension and an this kind of road. And the difference with a proper driver are enormous on a sportsbike. Today a prof. Driver with a 600 supersport replica could definitely match the times of the 911 records.
Лоренцо Шулло I was just pushing your buttons but I think a zx10r beat that record of the r1, also that r1 had very good suspension, I believe it had ktech suspension. Still there much faster production bikes now. The ring isn’t very bike friendly anyways
Simply professional driver and manufacturers don't perform tests because there is no reason and it is very risky for the drivers. The trackdays of amateurs should not even be considered for motorcycles. They suck in the 'common' circuits, you can only inage how much in the ring.
ED kratos It's not as difficult..that bike in the video weights less than 500 lbs...it's very light and easy to throw around. The rider in the video knows the track very well and I'm not directing away from his skill which was very impressive, but responding to your comment, bikes aren't that hard to throw around in corners.
Richard Head I don't know what you're talking about because cornering well on a motorcycle is indeed difficult. Sure, you can ride on the street and take highway ramps with relative ease but track riding and/or racing is a different story.
Richard Head So to ride a hype sport bike fast you THROW IT AROUND yeah gods man are you mad both the driver and rider both good safe rider/driver but not a 10/10 full out drive as can tell both had other TRAFFIC in mind pretty fast but safe car able to close up on breaking and corner speed in the twisty part of the lap and the bike not giving the full beans out the bends if it did it would be gone as no doubt it did when any long straights come along which sure happened 5 sec after end this post think i will stick to the isle of man now that,s a circuit !! if not familiar with it check out on you tube TT2012 ISLE OF MAN CBR600RR ROB BARBER PRACTICE just one and a half practice laps race is 4/6 and for a car run try SUBARU STI ISLE OF MAN FLAT OUT THE FULL LAP local lad mark higgins as a drive round as a stunt for subaru usa and for full on race action PURE ADRENALINE GUY MARTIN VS MICHAEL DUNLOP @ 200 MPH ON BIKE POV ISLE OF MAN TT RACERS hope you check them out and enjoy even if a car guy
Great vid! The Megane is obviously being driven by an expert but even so, I'm surprised it kept up with the bike so effortlessly because let's face it, the guy on the bike ain't no slouch. It's always a pleasure to see people who know what they're doing drive/ride.
what a smooth rider huh... drawing perfect lines, taking his time and hitting the apex at full lean at the precise moment... just very clean hella fast riding... to keep up with that dude you ought to have some pro superbike racing credentials or being some top club racer to not be left behind...
well .. the video ends where the lap ends ;) .. during touristenfahrten you have to leave the track after every lap .. so you take the long straight for cooling down and not heat up the brakes for standing few minutes in the queue .. not healthy :)
And some say...Biker Stig is still riding round the Nürburgring smoking other traffic to this day...awesome video thank you very much,very skilled Rider and Driver!
Fantastic driving and fantastic riding!! Both were equally impressive! Actually the Megane RS impressed the hell out of me, it was linear and strong through each turn, handled beautifully and the suspension setup seemed on point!
The biker is sure a hero ! Always took more guts to ride a bike while facing down the elements than to drive a four wheeled cage with lots of safety and comfort built in it !
@@williamweylts4743 That's what you get when you have faulty cage on 4 wheels and do pot and party with bitches late night ! It takes toll , Man eventually one day !
That just might be the best nuremberg video ever! What great handling by both bike and car! It was fun to see them both push a little harder at the end, really showcasing their skills. Outstanding!
For all those idiots claiming how slow is the bike or inferior, it has never been a battle between bike and a car but between character, skill, balls and enjoyment. Take megane and drive like this guy and then take a bike and try to ride like the rider. Then tell me which one is easier to ride fast. You would probably shit yourself in the first corner ;) Bikes were always about balls, cars not so much. The skill and bravery to ride like this is crazy. It is almost like TT on the Isle of Man but on a closed track, not roadracing, but pretty close (all those bumps, almost zero runoff). Front wheel is lifting off on hills so I would say he's going fucking fast. Just the car is no slouch either. On bumpy track like this cars are also much faster in corners as you basically can't lean the bike too much cause at that speed your front would either lift off and you would run into barrier or it would wash out and you lowside it and run into barrier too :) Remember cars are 80% ride, 20% driver, bikes are the opposite.
well... thats why they comment "Bikes were always about balls, cars not so much." when you tell people theyre a pussy for riding a car they get upset, because thats how tiny ego's work, it all has to fit in that tiny car
I was excited to see how both of them would handle the “Infamous Bruenchen curve”. The way the biker hit the red/white zone just before the Brunchen was so sick!!! Both of them amazing riding/driving skills👌
+Gandalf m8 Everyone seems to underestimate them, but with a good driver they're a bit of a weapon. I was more impressed with the guy on the bike, good riding!
+derbigpr500 I've visited the ring a couple of times and managed 9 minutes flat and that felt pretty fast, to go round that much quicker in a renault is crazy lol
+Simon Thompson 7,54 for The Renault Megane, it's the same time as the Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, Porsche 911 Turbo 997 and faster than á Ferrari F430, Corvette C6 Z51 or a Dodge Viper SRT10
As you've all mentioned both are brilliant riders. The car could reel him in going through the tighter corners but man oh man the straight line acceleration on that bike is insane, once he's straightened up he is gooooone!
Incredible riding skill, enjoyed watching, with those lean angles and all the spills I’ve seen on UA-cam I imagine he was using track sticky slicks to manage those lean angle speeds. The car filming was having a very clean quick run as well!
The Megane has a power to weight ratio of around 200 bhp per ton, whereas a superbike will have a ratio more like 1000 bhp per ton. On that basis the Megane has a massive power disadvantage and does brilliantly well on handling through the bends, the bike predictably murders it on the straights. Great video, thanks for posting it.
For those of you who thought the biker wasn't fully committed going into some of those corners or the car driver wasn't keeping pace with the bike, here's the rider Nino Pallavicini doing a seven & half minute lap of the Nürburgring on a standard BMW S1000RR ua-cam.com/video/_umBGp_Z6wg/v-deo.html
Excellent video being both a bike rider and a car driver having experienced the thrills of the Nurburg Ring this video really does capture the excitement. However I must admit the skill demonstrated by both in this video is exceptional and for a mere mortal like myself I found the nurburg ring quite terrifying at times particularly on Easter bank holiday - taking e wide line on the bike into a corner at 150k only to find a Porsche snuck up on the inside at the apex. Also to see very expensive sports cars and bikes being transported away as wrecks on low loaders was a little bit disconcerting but you only live once so you've got to enjoy it 🤔
The title is misleading. For most of the video, the biker was alone. Certainly running way over 100 mph on average. But what is not told, is that the camera car not only kept up with the bike, but obviously had the potential of passing it on the straights.
That guy on the motorcycle must have balls of steel. I would never even dare to go on a racetrack on my bike when there are cars at the same time. Both drivers have insane skills and it's really a pleasure to watch.
![@Rideezy IS INSANE! You have to see this BIKER flying through the NÜRBURGRING NORDSCHLEIFE BTG [4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tL8QXAUQfVw/mqdefault.jpg)
![@Rideezy IS INSANE! You have to see this BIKER flying through the NÜRBURGRING NORDSCHLEIFE BTG [4K]](/img/tr.png)
here another smooth biker lap ;) ua-cam.com/video/-2976rRzb3s/v-deo.html
sick bro thats one quick megane what bhp is it making?
My RS 250, which i'm guessing has less than this is running 320ish bhp with nothing but a decent rolling road setup, an ITG foam panel filter and a 3 inch decat exhaust paired with a stainless steel manifold(unsure of the brand as it was on the car when i got it). Above that sort of level you're looking at wanting to improve cooling, and possibly hybrid or larger replacement turbo set-ups. 320 feels like enough for me anyway, the car is faster than I am.
chongwong Mate, your post went to the wrong video.
+zippofani hate it when youtube bugs the f out and posts on the wrong video
+UnseenSpirit Yeah I know. It's crazy. You waste time reading a completely irrelevant post, and the poster will never recieve relevant answers to his. Then there are people who blogs their thoughts, through posting in ramdom videos, that make them think about something cool.
As annoying as fuck as it is, it's easy to live with, and fun to comment about. :)
Man that guy can ride, good lap from both rider and driver and no crap music what a bonus
No crap music, I think this is an underrated statement.
yeah, whats the need of putting shitty music on top of everything? don't get it
Agreed, you want to hear the engine to know what is going on.
And without stupid music - thank you!
What? You don't like tinny Russian electro-pop?
Music is ANY car bike,mtb bmx scooter drag whatever vid is utterly pointless
Yes thanks
Best comment on UA-cam my friend
ElvislaD @2:04 the phone rings?? Lol
Very good rider, very good driver. Car driver didn't take up the challenge at first, then started pushing hard and almost overcooked one corner. Rider realised car was serious so responded by getting closer to 'max effort' towards the end. Both seriously talented. Also very good track etiquette by those overtaken. Great to watch!
Summed it up beautifully 👍
I couldn't agree more. Super talent on driver and rider. There was a couple time the car could've overtaken the bike but would've chopped his line off causing him to crash..
The Ring is NOT the place to have a high speed crash. Kudos to both for being Zen... pushing hard but staying truly calm.
No banana peals thrown, great sportsmanship.
Profesional driver would won.
bet that s1000 wasn't expecting the car to keep up with him. you can tell when he starts to wheelie he is really trying to shake him off
The bike rider is Swiss from the mountainous south east canton 'Grisons' or Graubünden. He is very fluid and smooth, keeping the corners round, that's what makes him so fast. No overloading the tyres with abrupt manoeuvres. Pure delight to watch. His straight line acceleration is amazing too. Great video.
Well he is amazing to Watch ! Poetry in Motion 🤸 should have been signed up for the GP circuit 😀
Yes agree 🤙
Keeping corners round makes bikes slow. Super bikes have to square off and late apex to use the power to the advantage. This guys using the same lines as a 400cc bike
@@mitchellmitchell6938
Really ?
What capacity or power do you
think that bike is or has ?
@@Stoater1 well, it weighs 400lbs and makes 200hp and will beat a Bugatti vey Ron in the quarter mile. I take my race bike to circuit tracks about 2-3times a month. I know what I’m talking about. The thunder hill west car record is 1:20 held by a McLaren. I ran a 1:10 a month ago on a 600cc race bike.... people are clueless about the true capability of these machines. The truth is it take immense amounts of skill to be fast on a bike
That dude has to be a club/former racer of some sorts. He is absolutely amazing with his lines, massive acceleration off the corners and he kisses all the apex superbly. My heart would beat out my chest at that pace. Well done.
DaWhat79 You can tell in the first 30 seconds that is NOT his first trip around the Ring....maybe his 101st lol.
Nice smooth full-throttle kneedragging lines through blind corner sets belies serious track knowledge.
+DaWhat79 He races in an R6 series in Germany. Incredible rider.
That motorcycle's lines were beautiful. Dude knows the track and his bike. Megane guy was good too though. Cool to see the difference between bikes and cars in the turns.
+future62 The poetry of bike and rider is the best spectacle in motorsports.
A cyclist has to use his body as well as his/her technique and driving skill.
+future62 totally agree. At 0:35 I thought the biker missed the apex of the corner, but it was just longer than I thought and he ended up hitting the apex bang on. Great form and body position as well, proper leaning and even some knee dragging in there, very brave for a track like the ring that normally isn't so well maintained. He must be a regular.
+future62
So awesome how his knee kisses the curbs! :D
+Alex Manolopoulos A modern bike too.
+future62 i was thinking the same thing. his confidence around other cars, knowledge of the track and his aggressiveness in the turns were almost god-like. either this guy rides the ring everyday religiously or he's a gp racer.
What a talented rider
+snowcat yes he is..and lil bit crazy :) he is riding for Yamaha in their cup series
Let’s not forget about the person filming because he was keeping up!
Ragnar Lodbrok - as it says above, the rider is on the Yamaha team & races for them in cup series races so I’d say he hitting it pretty damn fast. I’m guessing he’s hitting at least 250-275 k’s in the straights & as to car vs motorcycle cornering, it all depends on the individual pilots.
Ragnar Lodbrok - I’ll put you in the car & you can try to follow Marc Marquez & let’s see who corners better.
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Ragnar Lodbrok - excuses, excuses .... as I said, it depends on the pilot, which is why I gave you the example. You’d NEVER stand a chance keeping up with Marc Marquez, in fact if you even tried, they would be cleaning you up off of the track after you high sided.
That biker on his motorcycle: it is like a dance.
A beautiful balancing act.
like dancing with a chainsaw
stop talkin out your arse
@@baflabies Berk. Stop talking out of your arse.
would love to see a good tt rider with a well set up machine on here.. would be a pretty serious after some practice and a clean track.. looks like the R1 has the advantage on the straits..
@@planegaper Yeah. It's more of a road circuit than anything else with the length.
If driving a car around the nordschleife is challenging, imagine riding a bike which uses every ounce of your own physical endurance and skill to maneuver and gain speed. That man is amazing
He was riding that bike like a boss.
True dat
I shed a few tears to see such skill! They must be strong as an ox to keep that up.
Looks like a pro to me. Didn't get a good enough look to see if I recognize him. That's an expensive bike whatever it is.
#GR #schweiz ^^
+Angus Davies definitely agree.
Biker knows every inch of the ring.
he has to cause he is flying on....
that's what your mom always says..
Rider and driver knows every inch of the circuit. Great footage.
And that's the key... They knows the circuit well. I wanted to do Isle of the man tt, but it would take me a good year or more to learn the lines.
Great job by both operators 👍🏾👊🏾💯.
@@mearookierider you got a racing licence yet?
superb driving! both drivers! what an amazing smooth style the biker has, just sublime.. perfect video
i fully agree on that, loving his style and movements.. í've been looking him up after this video and yeah he can ride for sure!
Sunyata i agree on that. those are a joy to watch on those days and if lucky to follow around till you figure out you aint quick enough lol
been there, had that.. 250's are the worste to have around you when your on a 1000 on the track, there so freaking light and fast in corners :D
+Sunyata i remember seeing a clip of a very old audi 80, one of the earliest models, running a 1600 with carbs, annoying the shit out of some porsches in the corners.
they couldnt get rid of it.
+Pascal Dopmeijer I had that in practice sessions at Daytona. I would crush him on the high speed sections, then he'd take my lunch money in the infield. Took me 3 laps to keep him back there. Was a blast though. My gearing was wrong, but no excuses. (I was on a 600, not a liter bike)
That bikers line was nothing short of perfection, hitting every apex at precisely the right spot.
It looks like he has done that once or twice before 😉
@@1988dgs IM SURE HE HAS MANY LAPS AROUND THIS CUTE LITTLE RACETRACK.........LOLOLOL
And he left some rubber on those rumble strips once or twice..
Aint he's first rodeo
Early on you get a sense that he took the uploader's car speed seriously when he wheelies out of a corner to catch up to the RS.
This could have been an hour long and I would have watched every second of it.
Russian roulette
You might enjoy Sebastian Vettel on UA-cam Beautiful car driving action by one of the best.
Same here! I catch myself bobbing and turning my head as if it's me on that thing.
@@josephblow6654 YUP
A.b.s.o.l.u.t.e.l.y., every second of it.
this rider nailed the apexes very consistently, very good rider and the car driver too
It comes from knowing the course with your eyes closed.
Two hammers, these guys were
@@email4664 😂
Rider and driver are both very skilled. It's nice to see you that. Thank you for the video
welcome .. the pleasure was on my side :D
Nice ride i liked it fun
Man that guy on the bike was super impressive! Such clean lines. After driving cars for 6 years and riding bikes for just over a year I find riding much more fun yet harder than driving a car especially when i want to go fast. Riding a bike this fast requires a whole new level of skill.
bishplis ^lmao what?
bishplis you, my dear friend, obviously have never driven a car before.
(Or if you did, you're just dumb af)
bishpls never drove a car in my 42 years of life, but can say from my gran turismo gaming it takes skill. riding bikes yea can tell you from experience that takes skill.
uneducated, i must say. riding like that inst very diificult especialy when using countersteering and getting the right line is just a matter of knowing the track, do some track riding and you will see
Mark MIA "very difficult especially when using countersteer"
Huh what? Like there is any other way to steer a bike.
Great riding and driving. The bike guy has square iron balls...
square, iron and Big. I couldn't help noticing coming out of some of the apexes on the rear wheel and body lean steering.
all that kept him from taking off was the weight of his balls.
+Metal Mike Hes got balls sure but his back wheeling wasnt as much showing his skill, but his loss of composure.
Their teardrop shaped...better aerodynamics. ;-)
SiN Loud How?
Poetry in motion. Nothing more, nothing less.
He is an experienced rider and the driver also great video thanks for letting us hear the sound of internal combustion with out any music
kudos to both, but the guy on the beemer is awesome, I'd love to be half as good. clearly knows the track a bit as well, great lines
He plots those corners like a pro, his lines definitely show he knows The Ring better than most. That was really cool to watch.
Ha! At first I thought you were talking about the bloke in the silver BMW car that they overtake. :)
Damn, that dude can RIDE
That's insane! The Megane is incredible but I'm shocked with the skills of that guy on the motorcycle.
ua-cam.com/video/-2976rRzb3s/v-deo.html&ab_channel=xthilox
Go see Isle of Man TT
I'm more shocked that Megane could stay with him.
I suspect the bike was being kept a little bit in check.
@@babboon5764 Bikes have big disadvantages in corners and need to lower their speed much more than cars. On a straight the BMW would have blown him away in the sense you mean.
@@Rondo2ooo Oh for sure when its really twisty, but a lot of that was gentle curves which really wouldn't faze a bike.
On top of that, the S1000RR is just pehenomenally fast on acceleration. Unless & until you get chance to ride one on a track or some very empty roads its hard to appreciate just *how* fast it does accelerate.
(Vibrates through the bars like a sodding angle grinder 'though ~ Or to be exact at least the early version did)
the biker is a top lad, and he obviously knows this track like the back of his hand. I'd say he's a regular and has covered many laps round there. just watch his lines, he's no stranger to that place.
Not really sure how he's able to control his bike that well, without those massive balls getting the way.
I advise you to look up the Isle of Man TT, bike on board laps, Michael Dunlop, John. McGuinness or Guy Martin. 200 mph superbikes on country roads.
Simon Watts no I just can't. I plan on getting my first bike to commute around town, my v8 is just so thirsty and a bit of a pain to drive. I'm definitely looking to get something a bit tame
Jeremiah Steele If you're looking for something cheap, with automatic gearbox, confortable and nimble (but not fast) a scooter looks like a good choice.
Guilherme Keimi Goto i have looked into a few scooters and might still get one. But the dual sport type bikes have appealed most to me so far. I still have a lot of time though.
Jeremiah Steele
Get a dual sport.
They are the definition of fun(scooters are the definition of boredom).
ESPECIALLY if you have offroad paths close to you, you're gonna have the time of your life.
That biker was probably a pro racer getting in some practice. Fantastic lines.
Agreed. The nurbirgrind is a bumpy, challenging track with a lot of low down force technical corners.
Agreed. The nurbirgrind is a bumpy, challenging track with a lot of low down force technical corners.
@MrCES22 Dangerous of you to think there is no speed limit. If its not a race, regular german road laws/rules apply. But there are no radars and thus no risk of getting a speeding ticket. Insurances usually exclude these parts of german roads for obvious reasons.
definitely not a pro. He's fast don't get me wrong, his body position isn't perfect and he's wearing a yamaha suit on a bmw lol.
Definitely not a pro. His body positions and transitions are far from pro level. He's definitely fast though.
For me, the most amazing thing is that a Megane can stay with (mostly) a very talented rider on a superbike rocket ship. Who knew!
I was also surprised and the megane driver seems to do it without big efforts. However it makes perfect sense because the biker only benefits from the power to weight ratio when accelerating. No matter how good the biker is, it is almost impossible to compensate the traction of additional weigt and four wheels in the bends. Just didn't expect to notice that difference so obviously. Another example why the two wheels should be separated from the four wheels during touristenfahrten. Big fun doesn't have to come with great risks. My opinion...
Average track rider. The others were just out for a Sunday dream living session. Put a biker with race experience on that machine and POOOOF ... + 20mph lap average. Off into the distance she goes! Put Rossi on and it's a trailblaze!
Great for that car to even keep up though! Kudos to the driver. It isn't a fair fight!
@@TheVanillatech Hardly, he is riding for Yamaha in their cup series
@@TheVanillatech looks like bike rider has really good experience. all in all 4 wheels are better than 2 wheels on turns.
@@LukasM_24 Why dont you thick twats understand one does it on 2 inches of tyre, the other does it on prob 3 feet of tyre in total, dumb as fk, all of you.
Nice job keeping a safe distance and great riding from the guy on the bike.
That's some pretty impressive driving too, I mean he kept it all under control
For those that get to do this kind of thing on the regular, I am extremely jealous.
From NY in the US, race safe.
It's a shame we don't have something like this over here. and no, Tail of the Dragon doesn't count.
Great illustration of bike vs car in the corners (car carries speed) and straights (bike blasts away easily).
Great driving by both, very interesting to see the difference between the bike pulling away on the straight sections (1:59) and how much the car gains through the corners.
That guy probably isn't even at a quarter throttle. A more confident rider would've absolutely blown the car away.
Due to bikes low weights, they have far superior acceleration but a lower top speed due to engine size restrictions (frame not big enough for a large engine). Because a car has a much greater wheelbase, they can carry more speed through the corners due to increased friction with the road, and using the moment of the vehicle to increase reaction force thus friction on the outside tyres. Furthermore, since a car has a greater surface area to manipulate downforce, they also carry more speed through corners that way. The biggest factor, I already mentioned, is the wheelbase differences. Good observation!
@@bulletz9280 cars have more grip than moto more tire contact
@@bulletz9280 Hence more risk for losing traction
Scott K stop talking nonsense, cars are faster in corners due to their stability, if he pushed any harder he would of high sided or low sided. That been said I can probably count on one hand the amount of road legal cars that can beat this bike in a straight line.
*Awesome driving of both drivers!!*
@MichaelKingsfordGray wow man why you mad?
One does not drive a motorbike, rather one rides it.
@@0Zolrender0 💀💀
@@0Zolrender0 then what do you call the person riding on the back of a motorcycle, behind the person controlling it?!
and what do you call a passenger riding in a car, but not driving it?!
Have you ever gone for a ride in a car?!
much ado over semantics!
3:02 - a wheelie on a full bend corner. Beautiful :-D
@@NoFaceCobain You don't ride do you...
Fucking cyyyaa
wheelie in a curve is no big deal. Believe me, I've done it many time at 225 with a passenger on the back seat. ;-)
I'm also doing a 'Virgule' on hightway exit/entry
Pedro l'amoroso You’re very cool for endangering your passengers life!
Always difficult to judge from a video just how hard the cars are cornering but here we have a really nice visual representation of the effort involved. Very nice driving from both parties.
The biker has good knowledge of the circuit.
Why all the hate? The Megane has less than HALF the BHP/ton so it is quite respectable. Both are fast in their own respect. Of course the bike will pull away at any acceleration segments, and you see the Megane reeling in the bike at EVERY braking and cornering point.
The car is like the toyota lmp car and the bike is like the porsche! Bike just pulls away in straights but the car catches him in corners despite being heavier mikemclarenf1
Is that really a megane he is driving or an electric hoover?
+P1Fanatic Its the Megane RS DYSON Edition ... whoooooooo :D
+xthilox does it really have such a loud axle sound?
what do you mean ? the hiss comes from the exhaust ?
xthilox doesn't the sound while idling or pushing the clutch while braking come from the axle?
+ToBixD nope... gear box...
Impressive, most impressive. The commitment from that biker is insane and when they accelerate out of the corners, it gives a great sense of the speed. What a talent.....awesome video.
holy crap, this has got to be the BEST camera angle I've ever seen on the Ring.
+gripNslip thx .. i liked it too :)
Both those drivers were exceptional
guy on the bike having twice the fun
Twice the risk as well :)
this will double the fun only ^^
A LOT more risk. FIrst time he high sides that thing at 120 he might wish he was in a car instead.
Autos389 losing control in a car at 120 you might wish you were at home.
losing control in a home at 120 you might wish you were at a 5 star hotel
You can occasionally see the tail lights of my bike ahead of these two riders. Tough to make out on this video. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
HeyHuey .... I’ll back you up on that as I was on the pillion 😉🤣
Im the passenger on the Megane. I confirm
They stopped the video just as I was about to overtake both of them...
Two outstanding human beings; 1 driving 1 riding. Well done to the both of you.
the driver and rider both have skills !! I can get around a track fast but add in rough road conditions and slow riders and drivers and I would have been as slow as those two bikes that got passed ... all riders think they are fast on the street but when they get too a track they realize they never even came close to the capabilities of their bike then you see a rider like this and it amazes me... it takes lots of skill /trust and a monster set of ballz to go that fast on the ring
yes, ALL of them, EVERY SINGLE ONE
you must not ride at all kiddo...
this is GERMANY, thats in EUROPE
they ALL know how to fucking ride, this isnt fucking yankyland with sandals and slippers on a busa
@@bishplis7226 epic fail man, ive seen plenty of Euro's with noob riding skills. YT is full of them from the US to Europe. We have more ppl and more roads so we have more beginners. As well as more tracks, 48 mainland states with some having up to 8 tracks in one state.
i wish you'd seen their riding lessons
Im in awe of the beauty of the talent of both drivers in evry inch of the track
There is only ONE driver. The other is a rider, as one does not drive a motorbike, rather one rides it.
So jealous you have a place like that to go to. And I was moving my head, looking ahead at the turns along the track and shifting my body as if I am riding. Thanks for the nice camera set up. Damn! Biker was a poetry in motion. Loved each and every second of the track!
Summit point West Virginia
Beautiful....rider has balls the size of coconuts. No margin for error, none.... hit every apex.. Kudos to the Megane driver, didn't get totally dropped by the bike... Ridden like a boss....hat off to you sir.
Awesome. The cornering disadvantage of the bike and the acceleration disadvantage of the car made for an interesting run. Nice. Bet the bike was long gone on that long straight though.
It's a drive disadvantage of the rider, not the bike. People think that a car is 40% faster than a bike on a corner that's ignorance in it's purest form.
Bikes can carry even more speed than a normale sportscar or a street legals supercar in mid corner.
Лоренцо Шулло lmfao I’m guessing you never ridden the ring, a civic type R with a skill driver is gonna outpace even a professional rider on this track
@@SteezeN Why people add stupid comment without understand the first?
I can't reply to you man, it's just a waste of time, sorry.
Just to let you know anyway. In 2008 with a stock R1 an amateur did 7.10 BTG.
An amateur. With a 08 stock bike with sloppy suspension and an this kind of road.
And the difference with a proper driver are enormous on a sportsbike.
Today a prof. Driver with a 600 supersport replica could definitely match the times of the 911 records.
Лоренцо Шулло I was just pushing your buttons but I think a zx10r beat that record of the r1, also that r1 had very good suspension, I believe it had ktech suspension. Still there much faster production bikes now. The ring isn’t very bike friendly anyways
Simply professional driver and manufacturers don't perform tests because there is no reason and it is very risky for the drivers.
The trackdays of amateurs should not even be considered for motorcycles. They suck in the 'common' circuits, you can only inage how much in the ring.
the biker has 100 times more skill goddamn i dont even ride a bike but i know how fucking hard it is compared to a car.
ED kratos It's not as difficult..that bike in the video weights less than 500 lbs...it's very light and easy to throw around. The rider in the video knows the track very well and I'm not directing away from his skill which was very impressive, but responding to your comment, bikes aren't that hard to throw around in corners.
Richard Head I don't know what you're talking about because cornering well on a motorcycle is indeed difficult. Sure, you can ride on the street and take highway ramps with relative ease but track riding and/or racing is a different story.
Richard Head So to ride a hype sport bike fast you THROW IT AROUND
yeah gods man are you mad both the driver and rider both good safe
rider/driver but not a 10/10 full out drive as can tell both had other
TRAFFIC in mind pretty fast but safe car able to close up on breaking
and corner speed in the twisty part of the lap and the bike not giving
the full beans out the bends if it did it would be gone as no doubt it did
when any long straights come along which sure happened 5 sec after end
this post think i will stick to the isle of man now that,s a circuit !! if not
familiar with it check out on you tube TT2012 ISLE OF MAN CBR600RR
ROB BARBER PRACTICE just one and a half practice laps race is 4/6 and
for a car run try SUBARU STI ISLE OF MAN FLAT OUT THE FULL LAP
local lad mark higgins as a drive round as a stunt for subaru usa and for
full on race action PURE ADRENALINE GUY MARTIN VS MICHAEL DUNLOP
@ 200 MPH ON BIKE POV ISLE OF MAN TT RACERS hope you check
them out and enjoy even if a car guy
All that skill. On a vehicle with much better acceleration....still can't pull away.
Something doesn't add up bro', sorry.
+Kyle Simon yes he could pull away, but I guess he was playing safe, with cars on a track you never know what could happen.
Great vid! The Megane is obviously being driven by an expert but even so, I'm surprised it kept up with the bike so effortlessly because let's face it, the guy on the bike ain't no slouch. It's always a pleasure to see people who know what they're doing drive/ride.
what a smooth rider huh... drawing perfect lines, taking his time and hitting the apex at full lean at the precise moment... just very clean hella fast riding... to keep up with that dude you ought to have some pro superbike racing credentials or being some top club racer to not be left behind...
Awesome driving. love it that the video ends just when the bike is about to dust him on the straight ;)
well .. the video ends where the lap ends ;) .. during touristenfahrten you have to leave the track after every lap .. so you take the long straight for cooling down and not heat up the brakes for standing few minutes in the queue .. not healthy :)
Ah my bad. Awesome driving on both drivers parts
no problem! ..and of course its no excuse that nino is MUCH MUCH faster on the straights .. no chance with a car !
hey man, you kept up with a freaken S one thousand...that's all that matters lol
Agreed, I have raced both and I will tell you what these two are doing deserves an equal amount of respect and praise! Awesome video...
The way the bike is taking off in the straights is amazing. Love bikes.
And some say...Biker Stig is still riding round the Nürburgring smoking other traffic to this day...awesome video thank you very much,very skilled Rider and Driver!
Fantastic driving and fantastic riding!! Both were equally impressive! Actually the Megane RS impressed the hell out of me, it was linear and strong through each turn, handled beautifully and the suspension setup seemed on point!
What a beautiful lap. Thanks for sharing this friendly battle. Great skills at both sides.
The best fun times in life are when you meet someone going your speed... Albert Einstein
When you go to play on mountain roads and meet guys who drive the same as you.That is very good fun
“Not all quotes on the internet are real” - Abraham Lincoln
THIS IS WHAT I CALL , ONE HELL OF A RIDE. LOVED IT. DRIVER WAS ALSO TALENTED. THE WAY HE HUNG ON TO HIM, NEVER LEAVING HIS SIGHT.
one hell of a rider!. the acceleration is awesome to watch, he really knows that bike well.
and the circuit too
that was awesome to watch.
very nice driving, both sides :)
The biker is sure a hero !
Always took more guts to ride a bike while facing down the elements than to drive a four wheeled cage with lots of safety and comfort built in it !
Tell that to Senna, oh wait, you can’t !
@@williamweylts4743 That's what you get when you have faulty cage on 4 wheels and do pot and party with bitches late night !
It takes toll , Man eventually one day !
That just might be the best nuremberg video ever! What great handling by both bike and car!
It was fun to see them both push a little harder at the end, really showcasing their skills. Outstanding!
I think Nuremberg was famous for another kind of race trial.
For all those idiots claiming how slow is the bike or inferior, it has never been a battle between bike and a car but between character, skill, balls and enjoyment. Take megane and drive like this guy and then take a bike and try to ride like the rider. Then tell me which one is easier to ride fast. You would probably shit yourself in the first corner ;) Bikes were always about balls, cars not so much. The skill and bravery to ride like this is crazy. It is almost like TT on the Isle of Man but on a closed track, not roadracing, but pretty close (all those bumps, almost zero runoff). Front wheel is lifting off on hills so I would say he's going fucking fast. Just the car is no slouch either. On bumpy track like this cars are also much faster in corners as you basically can't lean the bike too much cause at that speed your front would either lift off and you would run into barrier or it would wash out and you lowside it and run into barrier too :) Remember cars are 80% ride, 20% driver, bikes are the opposite.
well... thats why they comment "Bikes were always about balls, cars not so much."
when you tell people theyre a pussy for riding a car they get upset, because thats how tiny ego's work, it all has to fit in that tiny car
Any biker can drive a car fast very few car drivers can ride a bike even slowly, nuf said.
DAAAMN. The is the most impressive riding I’ve ever seen in my life outside of Moto GP. Wow. 🙏🏾
Wow... that´s a fast biker! Very nice driving of both, good vídeo.
I was excited to see how both of them would handle the “Infamous Bruenchen curve”. The way the biker hit the red/white zone just before the Brunchen was so sick!!! Both of them amazing riding/driving skills👌
Megane RS keeping up with a S1000RR ? Thats impressive.
+Gandalf m8 Everyone seems to underestimate them, but with a good driver they're a bit of a weapon. I was more impressed with the guy on the bike, good riding!
+Simon Thompson Under 8 minutes for a full lap is more than a weapon. It's faster than most sports cars.
+derbigpr500 I've visited the ring a couple of times and managed 9 minutes flat and that felt pretty fast, to go round that much quicker in a renault is crazy lol
+Simon Thompson 7,54 for The Renault Megane, it's the same time as the Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, Porsche 911 Turbo 997 and faster than á Ferrari F430, Corvette C6 Z51 or a Dodge Viper SRT10
+Enkhane where are you getting your times? that is no where close to the cars listed.
when man becomes one with his machine. amazing ride.
This was brilliant! Thanks for the upload!
As you've all mentioned both are brilliant riders. The car could reel him in going through the tighter corners but man oh man the straight line acceleration on that bike is insane, once he's straightened up he is gooooone!
Incredible riding skill, enjoyed watching, with those lean angles and all the spills I’ve seen on UA-cam I imagine he was using track sticky slicks to manage those lean angle speeds. The car filming was having a very clean quick run as well!
The Megane has a power to weight ratio of around 200 bhp per ton, whereas a superbike will have a ratio more like 1000 bhp per ton. On that basis the Megane has a massive power disadvantage and does brilliantly well on handling through the bends, the bike predictably murders it on the straights. Great video, thanks for posting it.
Jesus fuck, that guy was on 100% attack mode through the corners. That was right at the very edge, just gorgeous driving.
The car actually did so much better than the bike in corners was the most surprising to me. Outstanding video!
Top Aufnahmen, super von beiden gefahren.
+DarkBandit75 danke! bald gehts wieder los ;)
+xthilox ich pflichte DarkBandit bei, wie schnell wart ihr ca?
Top riding, nice and smooth. That's a quick Megane??
Well done biker and driver!
If that dude isn't already with MotoGP team, HE SHOULD BE! Nice skills!
He is.
Guy on the bike seems to be doing it relatively easy... never dropping the knee down on any corner. Great footage... Thanks.
Great clean driving there from all :)
Most Excellent video!!! I will ride like that one day!
+650ib ahahah wow you put a smile on my face :)
need to lay off the smackdowns and get some track days going! love your videos!
I rather you didnt its not safe ha ha.
Waheed is up to the challenge. You 2 should get out there and run it.
Many have tried, some have survived, but not too many, so be careful what you wish for!
For those of you who thought the biker wasn't fully committed going into some of those corners or the car driver wasn't keeping pace with the bike, here's the rider Nino Pallavicini doing a seven & half minute lap of the Nürburgring on a standard BMW S1000RR ua-cam.com/video/_umBGp_Z6wg/v-deo.html
Incredible riding, highly skilled, especially when cornering and then getting the power down to keep a very fast car at bay. Top marks to the rider.
that was insane.. great to watch
Excellent video being both a bike rider and a car driver having experienced the thrills of the Nurburg Ring this video really does capture the excitement. However I must admit the skill demonstrated by both in this video is exceptional and for a mere mortal like myself I found the nurburg ring quite terrifying at times particularly on Easter bank holiday - taking e wide line on the bike into a corner at 150k only to find a Porsche snuck up on the inside at the apex. Also to see very expensive sports cars and bikes being transported away as wrecks on low loaders was a little bit disconcerting but you only live once so you've got to enjoy it 🤔
Proper biker,must know the track like the back of his hand.
Whoever is riding behind and filming is fast and smooth. Both riders are awesome.
Biker wins, hardly touches the brakes really smooth. Both very talented.
Maybe that's why the car could keep up.
That biker was taking some lovely smooth lines.
That's driving skills...the BMW S1000RR os a superb motorcycle..sure it was equiped with race tires! Great images✌️
Duo Motovlog Nope. He Drives with Street Legal Tires (Pirelli) 😉
Onkel Andre thx my friend ✌️ Ride safe
dunlop d211 ;)
The title is misleading. For most of the video, the biker was alone. Certainly running way over 100 mph on average. But what is not told, is that the camera car not only kept up with the bike, but obviously had the potential of passing it on the straights.
This only proves that 4 contact patches are an advantage, but we already knew that.
Well, technically the rider has four also, but only uses 2 on the straits and 3 in the corners.... (knee pucks!)
I´m a sports bike lover. The biker is extremely fast. But de megane and the driver are fast too. You can see on the corners how fast the megane is.
Only thing I wish is a speedometer readout on screen, though my sphincter oscillations give a decent substitution.
Got a good laugh out of this one :)
this vid was years ago .. check out my new videos .. now everything is on board ;)
That guy on the motorcycle must have balls of steel. I would never even dare to go on a racetrack on my bike when there are cars at the same time.
Both drivers have insane skills and it's really a pleasure to watch.
I'm surprised he can ride a bike with that set of nuts
They help him keep his center of gravity lower, that's it.
Swings em on the other side to balance out his cornering better
Custom saddle.
Imagine what he could do if his giant balls weren’t slowing him down.
*Very fast biker **_EATS_** Megane RS!*
+Maxxxshop Megane RS keeping up with a S1000RR
+grodt88 not at the end lol.
ThunderWindz
at the end Megane driver end race with bike
nope u can hear he is still accelerating
+grodt88 In corner... in a straight line sorry the Megane Is another easy win
Looks like a tt rider having a chill time relaxing beutifull handling round some sharp curves 😎