Hard to argue with the ease and convenience of the canister stoves. I do have a couple don't bring them anymore. I either go super light with alcohol if conditions permit or I will bring my rocket engine MSR XGK. Sure it's overkill; some people hate the noise but I am addicted to its power!
I like the sasher bag. You can boil the meal for a friends, dump it in the bag, and then eat your's out of the pot directly. I'm stealing this combo for my next one! thanks!
Got a JetBoil a few years ago and never looked back. I love its simplicity, stability, and efficiency. Does the job of boiling water fast, obvs, but I've also cooked more elaborate meals in it (I like to make what I call JetBoil risotto). Flame regulation can be a bit tricky for simmering, but all in all, it works great. Of late, I've been stowing it in a cloth bag and strapping it to a Topeak VersaCage on my downtube to save space in my bags. One of the best bits of gear I've used in a long time.
My setup is pretty basic but it works great 750ml toaks pot, toaks long hanndle spoon, msr pocket-rocket 2. Coffee maker is an msr mugmate. And lastly an old yellow coglahns cup my dad gave me. It reminds me of being 5 and camping with him so it will come on every trip till i die.
I've got a 900ml titanium pot, a Trangia alcohol burner, a pot stand made out of an old clothes hanger and a concertina wind shield. Not much to go wrong there.
I have the same! Recently made a stand from a coathanger but still yet to use it. What's your windshield made from? I used aluminium foil with some skewers at each end to stick onto the ground but it's quite fragile.
Great set up if you're in a wet or high humidity environment. Not a good choice if you're in a wildfire prone area. Under certain fire restrictions, stoves are required to have an on/off switch.
I love my folding titanium wood burner stove. It takes a bit of work to keep it going but it can be very powerful with the right amount and type of fuel and it folds flat to about the size of a wallet. Downsides: it leaves a lot of carbon residue on the cookware. it produces smoke and might be more dangerous (potential wildfire hazard) and you need to find small enough branches (which I've never had a problem with)
The Brunton Raptor is another great option. It generates higher BTU than the others and has a flame spreader that increases the profile of the heat. Therefore, it boils water more quickly and efficiently, uses less fuel -- and weighs less than 5 oz. It has an igniter and the heat is adjustable from simmer to full blast. I've had mine for ten years and it just keeps on working.
Personally I dislike those small burners that sit on the canister, so I got myself an Alpkit Koro burner, titanium and with a hose it can do its duty on any condition. It also packs down, so it'll fit inside the toaks 375ml titanium cup. And if I only rehydrate meals, I'll bring a 550ml toaks pot. Or if I want to cook something more, then a primus trek kettle (one liter). And of course the most important part of the cook kit: a small digital coffee scale, good grinder and sea to summit x-brewer. 😄
Do any of you use alcohol stoves? I have a Ti stove, fold up wind breaker and Ti pot/cup. That packs smaller and lighter than my pocket rocket set up. Not adjustable heat and it’s slow are the main disadvantages.
I think we all used the canisters for this trip for faster boils, that said, Joe tends to use alcohol stoves, and makes his own when he arives to an area with less resources.
Nice! Fun camp project too! I was gifted with a fancy Ti model. Nice to have options, depending on the trip planned, but I am a self proclaimed gear geek! Really enjoy your content thanks!
Got a Pocket Rocket Deluxe on sale a couple of years back, mostly with the Stanley cook set, sometimes a more robust GSI set, depending on the ride, and how many of us there are. Trailside cowboy coffee is the best.
I use the same MSR Pocket Rocket cook kit for both canoe and bikepacking trips. For canoe camping I do cook more elaborate meals, but mostly just boil water while on the bike. I do however, need to use a plug of old sleeping pad to cushion the fuel cannister from banging around in the pot. Easy enough and keeps me from going mad. No mention of what meals you cook. Are you folks working on a cookbook or is it minimal?
I put the lighter in, paired with the pot grips, and stove it tones down the rattling in most cases, if not, I'll re-arrange them to make sure it does. We ate a lot of quick one pot meals, some can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/9gTJf6Vufr4/v-deo.html I also brought one Good-To-Go meal for the first night, and we also had a healthy supply of real food in towns.
I’ve found the trouble with alcohol stoves like the Trangia is the amount of fuel needed for more than a one/two night trip becomes excessive compared with gas or petrol.
Maybe I'm catastrophizing but I bought a kelly kettle in the event I somehow get stranded or something happens to fuel I can just scrounge some stuff. Washer makes lint sticks so I'm going to see how those do for starter fuel.
I don't see anything specifically called a "GO" bowl by Stasher in the UK but there's some similar looking ones on Amazon. Is there a better source? What size Stasher are you using in this? Looks like a neat idea (having had to share a single pot on our recent Maestrazgo loop trip)
Good question. I cut down one of those green pot scrubber pads and store it in a zip lock with a few squirts of dish soap. It fits neatly in my kit and is good for cleaning up one or two meals, or as long as the soap holds out.
Just switched over from motorcycle camping. Many use the collapsible sea to summit cookware. Any reason I haven’t seen that setup used in bikepacking videos?
Using a windscreen around the canister and stove is dangerous. Windscreen for isobutane stoves look like a little symbol and attach below the burner. These canisters cannot safely off gas like a propane tank is designed to.
Nothing but fossil fuel stoves? Come on. It's 2024. I have been using alcohol stoves for many years, from Trangia and Vargo.. Now I use a Vargo Converter stove and their Hexagon wood stove which also serve as a support and windscreen for the Convertor. It is all that anyone needs for a solo trip.. TOTAL weight for both is under 6 oz. And the space they take is like that of a matchbox on a napkin!
My setup is a Snow Peak Litemax stove and Trek 900 cookset (had this for close to 15 years). I used to have that same old REI spork, but my partner lost it, and I replaced it with a long handle Toaks spoon. I also carry a GSI pot scraper, a scrap of aluminum foil, and a little alligator clip for keeping dehydrated meal bags closed (they never seem to stay closed on their own). Definitely adding a stasher bowl to my kit after watching this video.
Hard to argue with the ease and convenience of the canister stoves. I do have a couple don't bring them anymore. I either go super light with alcohol if conditions permit or I will bring my rocket engine MSR XGK. Sure it's overkill; some people hate the noise but I am addicted to its power!
I like the sasher bag. You can boil the meal for a friends, dump it in the bag, and then eat your's out of the pot directly. I'm stealing this combo for my next one! thanks!
I also carry a set of HotLips. They are silicone attachments to a cup that allows me to not burn my mouth while sipping from a metal cup.
Got a JetBoil a few years ago and never looked back. I love its simplicity, stability, and efficiency. Does the job of boiling water fast, obvs, but I've also cooked more elaborate meals in it (I like to make what I call JetBoil risotto). Flame regulation can be a bit tricky for simmering, but all in all, it works great. Of late, I've been stowing it in a cloth bag and strapping it to a Topeak VersaCage on my downtube to save space in my bags. One of the best bits of gear I've used in a long time.
My setup is pretty basic but it works great 750ml toaks pot, toaks long hanndle spoon, msr pocket-rocket 2. Coffee maker is an msr mugmate. And lastly an old yellow coglahns cup my dad gave me. It reminds me of being 5 and camping with him so it will come on every trip till i die.
I've got a 900ml titanium pot, a Trangia alcohol burner, a pot stand made out of an old clothes hanger and a concertina wind shield. Not much to go wrong there.
I have the same! Recently made a stand from a coathanger but still yet to use it. What's your windshield made from? I used aluminium foil with some skewers at each end to stick onto the ground but it's quite fragile.
I recommend the Vargo Hexagon stove. I very rarely burn wood, but it makes a great stand and windscreen for their Convertor stove. @@edzeppelin933
@@edzeppelin933 It's from the UK brand Alpkit but yours sounds more ideologically in keeping, however fragile.
Great set up if you're in a wet or high humidity environment. Not a good choice if you're in a wildfire prone area. Under certain fire restrictions, stoves are required to have an on/off switch.
@@edzeppelin933 Sorry, I didn't answer your question. The windshield is aluminium in sexy red.
I love my folding titanium wood burner stove. It takes a bit of work to keep it going but it can be very powerful with the right amount and type of fuel and it folds flat to about the size of a wallet. Downsides: it leaves a lot of carbon residue on the cookware. it produces smoke and might be more dangerous (potential wildfire hazard) and you need to find small enough branches (which I've never had a problem with)
forgot to mention is safe to carry on trains and probably carry-on on planes.
Why not an ethanol burner, e.g. the Trangia mini? I feel more comfortable around those than pressurized gas 😅
Alcohol has MANY advantages including environmental ones.
Up here in ontario alcohol stoves are banned durring fire bans. Sadly fire bans take up a vast majority of the bikpacking season.
That's true in BC as well (!). But are you saying that propane stoves are OK? That's crazy. Alcohol fires are easy to put out. @@noahrobinson1913
Love the Trangia system!
@@barrybogart5436 crazy that they all use single use canisters! So much wastage
The Brunton Raptor is another great option. It generates higher BTU than the others and has a flame spreader that increases the profile of the heat. Therefore, it boils water more quickly and efficiently, uses less fuel -- and weighs less than 5 oz. It has an igniter and the heat is adjustable from simmer to full blast. I've had mine for ten years and it just keeps on working.
Personally I dislike those small burners that sit on the canister, so I got myself an Alpkit Koro burner, titanium and with a hose it can do its duty on any condition. It also packs down, so it'll fit inside the toaks 375ml titanium cup.
And if I only rehydrate meals, I'll bring a 550ml toaks pot. Or if I want to cook something more, then a primus trek kettle (one liter).
And of course the most important part of the cook kit: a small digital coffee scale, good grinder and sea to summit x-brewer. 😄
MSR pocket rocket 2 mini stove kit. Does great on backpacking or bikepacking trips.
Neat rundown guys!
Thanks Dave, something a little different, but it was fun to put together.
Do any of you use alcohol stoves? I have a Ti stove, fold up wind breaker and Ti pot/cup. That packs smaller and lighter than my pocket rocket set up. Not adjustable heat and it’s slow are the main disadvantages.
I think we all used the canisters for this trip for faster boils, that said, Joe tends to use alcohol stoves, and makes his own when he arives to an area with less resources.
Nice! Fun camp project too! I was gifted with a fancy Ti model. Nice to have options, depending on the trip planned, but I am a self proclaimed gear geek! Really enjoy your content thanks!
So what's the rush? The Vargo alky only take a few MINUTS longer than the Pocket Rocket. And it doesn't stink or roar.@@BIKEPACKINGcom
I bought a cheap one from Walmart and it did fantastic on my trip on the EDT
Awesome & Thanks :)
Love my pocket rocket…
"its my go-to-spork".
Got a Pocket Rocket Deluxe on sale a couple of years back, mostly with the Stanley cook set, sometimes a more robust GSI set, depending on the ride, and how many of us there are.
Trailside cowboy coffee is the best.
They are minimal-ish for using canisters, but stoves/fuel get much lighter, as you probably know.
I use the same MSR Pocket Rocket cook kit for both canoe and bikepacking trips. For canoe camping I do cook more elaborate meals, but mostly just boil water while on the bike. I do however, need to use a plug of old sleeping pad to cushion the fuel cannister from banging around in the pot. Easy enough and keeps me from going mad. No mention of what meals you cook. Are you folks working on a cookbook or is it minimal?
I put the lighter in, paired with the pot grips, and stove it tones down the rattling in most cases, if not, I'll re-arrange them to make sure it does. We ate a lot of quick one pot meals, some can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/9gTJf6Vufr4/v-deo.html I also brought one Good-To-Go meal for the first night, and we also had a healthy supply of real food in towns.
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Hey Neil, what are the shorts you are wearing? I like the ventilation holes.
these: www.clubrideapparel.com/products/mens-rider-short
I’ve found the trouble with alcohol stoves like the Trangia is the amount of fuel needed for more than a one/two night trip becomes excessive compared with gas or petrol.
Maybe I'm catastrophizing but I bought a kelly kettle in the event I somehow get stranded or something happens to fuel I can just scrounge some stuff.
Washer makes lint sticks so I'm going to see how those do for starter fuel.
I don't see anything specifically called a "GO" bowl by Stasher in the UK but there's some similar looking ones on Amazon. Is there a better source? What size Stasher are you using in this? Looks like a neat idea (having had to share a single pot on our recent Maestrazgo loop trip)
How do you guys go about cleaning your pots after eating from them?
Good question. I cut down one of those green pot scrubber pads and store it in a zip lock with a few squirts of dish soap.
It fits neatly in my kit and is good for cleaning up one or two meals, or as long as the soap holds out.
@@BrianRPaterson Thanks!
hey Great video! What is Miles' rolltop hipack?
Just switched over from motorcycle camping. Many use the collapsible sea to summit cookware. Any reason I haven’t seen that setup used in bikepacking videos?
For me, it’s the added weight - if you’re running a super-minimal kit, then you’re only worried about boiling water, so compact - and - light are key.
And those can't be used with open flame. I believe that most people like to opt for cookware that can handle any source of heat, at least I do.
Any issue with these stoves/isobutane a 30ishF?
It helps to keep the canister warm with you in your bag and insulate it from cold ground.
Wood stove made from a 1lb propane tank
I'd love to see pix of that!
Hi Neil, great video! QUESTION: Is that the 2-cup or the 4-cup Stasher Bowl that you carry with you in the video? Thanks!
This is the 2cup, thanks for watching.
Using a windscreen around the canister and stove is dangerous. Windscreen for isobutane stoves look like a little symbol and attach below the burner. These canisters cannot safely off gas like a propane tank is designed to.
Nothing but fossil fuel stoves? Come on. It's 2024. I have been using alcohol stoves for many years, from Trangia and Vargo.. Now I use a Vargo Converter stove and their Hexagon wood stove which also serve as a support and windscreen for the Convertor. It is all that anyone needs for a solo trip.. TOTAL weight for both is under 6 oz. And the space they take is like that of a matchbox on a napkin!
My setup is a Snow Peak Litemax stove and Trek 900 cookset (had this for close to 15 years). I used to have that same old REI spork, but my partner lost it, and I replaced it with a long handle Toaks spoon. I also carry a GSI pot scraper, a scrap of aluminum foil, and a little alligator clip for keeping dehydrated meal bags closed (they never seem to stay closed on their own). Definitely adding a stasher bowl to my kit after watching this video.