One thing is the driver's bravery. I think the co-pilot sitting in the passenger seat reading pacenotes while all this crazy driving is going on has to be bravest.
So true. I think the most people would throw up, shit in their pants or both, when they would be a co-pilot for the first time. Or they would shout: Samir you have to listen; Samir please, you're breaking the car.
It’s one thing when you’re the driver, able to see the road, making steering inputs & being able to brace for each & every impact, the co-driver is literally a passenger getting thrown around, must be really difficult on the body
@@Achie79 he, i was "co driving" for a little present in an r5 car, even that feels completely insane and we werent going close as fast as finnland. But driving 120kmh+ through woods is scary as hell
I'm reminded of the old motorsport saying. "If you want to win, hire a Fin." It's learning on roads like this that give Finnish racing drivers such phenomenal car control.
Also they start driving and racing at an early age such that driving and car control comes as second nature by the time they are old enough to drive, take a look at their racing culture and their driving school course to see that average fins are good at driving compared to most other populations
Female Finn here to add a comment. 👋 Rally is something even little kids and women enjoy here. It's pretty common to see the ladies go as a group to these events yearly (and enjoy motor sports in general, taking part in stuff like tractor pulling as drivers etc. ). 😊
1.6lt 380BHP, very fast and nimble little devils, faster than the beloved Group B ones. I wish more manufacturers joined. This is the best rally era for me.
Faster thanks to easier and better handling. I still think group B was the best rally era because it had the most dangerous, difficult to drive rally cars ever made.
@@shaggings For their time Group B were technologically advanced and only reason why they didn't have something was because it wasn't invented yet.Pretty sure they'd gladly trade tech from then for what's in modern WRC cars.
Group B era demanded unseen courage from the drivers, driving skills were ofc great allso but there was more emphasis on courage. From team perspective it was more lucrative for car manufacturers to get in group b because it was super popular at the time even tho it was super expensive. Modern day wrc and group a before that demands more of clinical skill from drivers than straight up courage. From team perspective group a and early wrc era times were golden age. It was so cheap to get team going in rally compared to group b era and allso modern wrc era that is again super expensive. During group a era there was like 12 different manufacturers in sport. Compared to 3 manufacturers in modern day wrc.
Fun fact: In Finland we call passengers seat the fearers seat (pelkääjänpaikka). Also the handle above the window is called horror handle (kauhukahva).
For me the fastest of the calendar is crazy Sweden on ice and snow. For example, if I take the last generation of cars, then Finland 2021 winner average speed 123.7km / h, Estonia 2021 109.9km / h and Sweden 2020 124.3km / h.
@@RadekHais That is because the average speed is limited nowadays. When it was not limited by rules rally Finland was way above the rest. Estonian rally is very similar to rally Finland as our roads are very similar, but we have a bit wider gravel roads left unlike Estonia. I think most of those have been paved in Estonia.
Ford has been racing rally since the 60s with Ford falcons and mercury comets. Inline 6 with cams and headers. I'm about to throw a 02 Impreza front and rear subframe and drivetrain under my 64 comet 2 door hard top with awd. Outside it'll be like a 1960s rally car with KC lights and all, but inside it'll be Subaru engine awd etc. Where it started AND where it ended up, all in one car.
3:10 Volkswagen Polo, little sister of the Golf P.s. 6:29 that was Skoda Fabia, the cousin of the Polo (it is basically the same car but under different brand)
@@Sam-wb7ot Nothing on the contrary with your brand, indeed if I had to take a car between vw and skoda I would choose the latter, there are some cases where a little personal touch of the brand remains. Unfortunately, however, it is the cruel reality that some manufacturers share the parts or the worst thing is practically the same vehicle to which they have changed the emblem and sometimes the price.
@@marco_grt4460 sorry misunderstanding on my part and also....yeah its kinda sad that we basically cant event make skoda like we want to since we wouldve been strugling with money if we werent in the volkswagen group😒
I am a Finnish rally fan and have some 40 years of experience in the Finnish rally, for example, so the current and driveability in the current cars is much better than in group b and they are really much faster in special stages and that's a fact. Group b was again in a class of its own in the sense that longer races were driven and they were powerful in their own class and the cars didn't weigh much. But it went all the time in a more dangerous direction and when Henri Toivonen and SERGIO died it was the last rivet, they had become too dangerous and the fact that group b was stopped was the right decision for me, nhe cars were too crazy to drive and there would be more bodies if would have continued, although the rally is still dangerous today. There are still a lot of forest roads in Finland and almost everyone has tried their skills with them, so what the tops pull themselves would not be enough, even if I could remember the route.
Group b engineers had free reign to do what they wanted that's why it became dangerous if engineers in f1 had the same the car would be undrivable for the human body today's wrc cars are so much faster than group b but they have better technology
Yeah it wasnt the power it was the crash safety and power compared to safety equipment etc. They could probably do a safe rally with 5-600hp rallycross engines nowadays ;)
@@eamh2002 I think sometimes we might have reached the point where we could build machines that would require superhumans to drive them safely. I think its easier to qualify what I mean in F1. I think if engineers would be given free reign there (full v12 turbocharged hybrid groundeffect car with electronic assist and such the drivers would probably just go unconscious in turns. the problems in ralley are less obvious and more variable but I think the same problem of the machines just being too much for humans would show up.
Well, at least ive had many more comments about slowing it a f*ck down than ive heard in any amusement park that ride was too fast. Also, now with new cars, speeds go up into levels... well jumpstraight was 120kph max with airtime, Throwing dog from backseat well into ceiling and have it land into backseat in `97 primera was just for fun and i could do it so that dog was unscathed. and now it is maybe 160kph, but i wont try. If it goes out of control it is bad news. Wrcs would blow that stage without slowing. Those who really drive rally at competition level, are fast as hell and have cars built for it.
I encourage you to watch the 2022 Croatia rally video from JR Rallye, watching them fly on tight twisty roads is amazing (also this is the first year of hybrid power trains, but unlike f1 they retained their amazing sound)
Watch their driving from onboard, you can see their turning their wheel way before they even get to the turns. Insane precision driving is the key here!!
90s and 2000s are my favorite era of rally.However,2017-2021 WRC+ cars are the best i've seen in terms of raw performance and speed.Mental,violent and absolutely hairing it. They are the best thing to happen to WRC since 2000s.
Everyone always says group b was the best but I liked group A/early wrc years, a good mix of technology and raw mechanical monsters + drivers like Mäkinen, McRae, Grönholm, Burns, Solberg... a truly epic era.
One thing I do know about these guys, especially these guys on the world stage as I had a friend who did local rally, they don't lift off the accelerator . . They just left foot brake and change gears so that they keep the turbo spinning and the torque on the drive. . these guys are supremely talented and have massive balls!!
If you can, you should take a trip to Finland and see one of these races live! Maybe contact one/some of your finnish subscriber(s) who have experience on the matter to hook you guys up to some good spot of the track.
Some proper corners where they throw the cars around and jumps are great places and ofcourse the difficult spots where..... You as a spectator can get some exercise. ;)
@@KPTKleist You are so wrong. How many ARA drivers compete in the world championship?.... Blocks highest finish was 9th and his highest ranking in the world championship was 19th in 2010. When you say "Equally" you are way off. I have been to a couple WRC events and when I lived in the states I went to a couple of round of the ARA Championship. Great events with great drivers but no comparison to the WRC
@@Pyllymysli ''Some proper corners''. Many of men have gotten taken out in those ''proper corners'' in the past. Dont be stupid and stand on the outer edge of the corner!
@@rockmcdwayne1710 Yeah obviously. I think it's the first priority and responsibility for the spectators to stay safe, absolutely. Driving is better when drivers don't worry about them and most importantly we don't want to see any tragedies in rally no more.
The group B indeed is legendary. When they stopped Group B all the experiences, innovations and developments were not wasted, but were the foundation of what modern rallycars are today.
The burble of the limiter as their foot remains planted to the floor when airborne, tells you all you need to know about how hard these lads drive. No other form of motor sport comes close to these guys talents.
This red white Toyota Yaris is driven by Kalle Rovanpera and he is 17yo actually.
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The two cars that you didn't recognize were a VW Polo and a Skoda Fabia. The teams, at least the official ones, have 2 or 3 cars in each rally. At the moment, Toyota and Hyunday are the big names with the M-Sport team (the ford fiestas) a bit behind.... The tires change a lot between the races but Finland is all "dirt" tires. A lighter version of the ones use in crawlers or rock climbing. Btw you have a growing rally culture in the US with names like Ken Block (that participated a few times in WRC events) and Travis Pastrana.
While we may have lost Group B long ago... current WRC still hits as hard as ever and I'm really digging Team Hyundai x Neuville. Their pedal-to-the-metal in each and every race while modern tech shows how good those cars can handle all of this abuse.
@@peeterkaljula24 Neuville doesn't crash a lot. It's his car that's unreliable. Over 75% of his recent retirements were due to mechanical or electrical failure rather that driver error.
In Ouninpohja, Finland 2003, Markko Märtin (EST) set the record for the longest jump, travelling 57 meters (187 ft) in the air at a speed of 171 kilometres per hour (106 mph).
Today wrc cars have more speed then group B did but than again if you see the technical improvement they made, you can only look in awe for these riders. As a Belgian I love Ypres rallye (very narrow streets, no room for error, many will fail at their first attempt) but it was only until I when to see wrc I saw these are on a whole different level. Great to see your appreciation grows for this sport!
You should react to some video from inside the rally cab, its crazy sounding how the co-driver gives instructions. Thats how they keep the car in the road, they know what is coming in like few seconds in advance.
Group B was king ! We are facing a new generation. Peugeot and Citroen feature fabulous cars. The biturbo, all-whell- drive Peugeots were truly beasts . And the Lancias as well. Look at them going up Pikes Peak. Michelle Mouton going up that mountain, still paved with dirt, sun and dust blocking her vision. Forcing her to shield, to protect her eyes with one hand, while driving with the left hand, was scary. I believe Lancia and Audi are taking a leave of absence - we miss them. The skills required a Rally are unbelievable.
Rally Finland is my favourite rally of the year because of the insane speeds and jumps, I only just followed rally recently and know how some are different in terms of personality and scenery, it's also very obscure as well.
And the raining newly crowned champion of the world Kalle Rovanperä from Finland commanding one of those Toyotas. I was on the crowd in 21 and 22 at those stages with my son, if it looks baffling in the video how they manage these cars at those speeds, you should definetly see it live, standing by the road as they fly by. Your brain can't compute how it is even possible.
2017-2021 was the best era of modern WRC. In 2022 new regulations came and now cars are hybrids. So they have the same 1.6L engines with 380hp but they also have a battery set which drivers can use in certain moments during stage (much like DRS in F1, but it's battery). So combined power is higher around 550hp I think but cars are heavier thus probably slower in corners. So kinda similar to group B, fast straights and slow corners. Still I recommend you to watch some of the 2022 WRC videos they are awesome. Keep up a good content😊
you're talking about the ERS (energy recovery system) in F1. that's the battery power part of the hybrid engines in F1 DRS is different. it doesn't give extra power, but reduces drag for higher speeds
@@rayjennings3637 no. Why? Not much changed from 2021 in terms of aero and suspension and so on. So greater weight means car is slower in corners. Power does not compensate for cornering speed. So yes cars are slower in corners.
Hyundia did hire some German Engineers for there N versions of their cars, which are the more sporting variants. They have moved on from there cheap cars to good cars competing witrh the german cars atleast in the non-luxury segment with the hatch backs. Those EVs they just brought out with Hyundia EV6 and Kia Iconiq 5 are challanging the in the market below the model 3 and Y. So there is good competition coming from Hyundia and KIA. The European desing center for Kia is in Frankfurt, so they have something going tthere.
I love group b, let me just start with that, but I think modern rally is getting to that point of being just as amazing. Like the speed and control, the cars and courses, it’s just so good. I think if rallying keeps getting more and more attention this modern era in the next few years has the potential to really be something special. Also been loving the vids man, keep on being you and crushing it out here. Also totally agree with you, the Hyundais are the best and glad you get that lol
You should watch onboard videos like Marcus Gronholm 6th gear 46sec in Ouninpohja stage on rally finland. There are plenty of onboard videos from famous Ouninpohja stage :)
Rally has always been, to me, the epitome of motor sports. Group B holds a special place in nostalgia, was not even just about the power, or speed. The fans were as crazy as the drivers, Portugal in the mid '80's is still mental to watch, the Lancia parting the crowds :D
"How is he getting that correct?" That would be the combination of an excellent driver, co-driver, and their "pacenotes" for each stage. It's a team sport for sure!
hyundai started rallying in the 90s. i first saw them in action in the rally of Australia in 1996. It was an F2 class rally car in the WRC championship based on the hyundai coupe built by MSD in the UK, driven by Alister McRae, the younger McRae brother, he later went on to drive in the WRC class with the Hyundai Accent in 1999 which stopped running in 2003. the current hyundai team we see on WRC started rallying in 2014 and is 100% brand new, based in Germany. Btw, hyundai road cars today are really well built, high tech and has a quality feel to them.
Rally drivers are amazing but the navigators are the back bone of going this fast if your pace notes are on point then you can absolutely mash the loud pedal 👍🇦🇺
I wouldn't say they're the backbone. Back in the 70s and 80s on some rallies the co-driver didn't have pace notes. They only had directions for the road sections between Stages.
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@@oldlud8971 They weren't always back then, but they *are* now.
As someone with little rally experience I have to say codrivers are a distraction imo I have no idea what their on about especially when your going flat out If I could run without a codriver I would
@@owenisaacson724 Then you would absolutley end up in last place in every race because if you tryed to actually compete,you wouldn not stand a chans in hell 😏 and you would probably not be in time to stages if you did all time counding yourself etc,etc. There is no way to do this alone even if you were allowed to.
One of the Toyota's is driven by Kalle Rovanperä, who is the youngest race winner in WRC history (20 years old) in 2021, and is currently leading the championship with almost double the points to the one who's second. He's a proper rally prodigy
Modern WRC are faster than Group B cars. The breaks, suspension, dampers, aero kits are so much better they are so fast in corners. These cars always look so perfectly balanced under breaking.
Group B ended in 1986 .. imagine if they still kept going since those old group B cars had almost 0 electronics to help the cars perform better. These current cars would be like toy cars compared to the monsters that group B would be using if they where still around.
IMO group b was insane... and is still my favourite, but the speed of this new era of wrc, and the aggression, is unmatched and is the closest to the group b era. The crazy aero and the noise paired with the sheer speed make it for me.
Friend of mine at Uni in Aus was an aspiring rally driver, had a Lancia all set up with racing seats etc. Best fun taking the 'long way' home finding the dirt roads and going sideways round corners. He had a friend who didn't know me try to give me (a girl) a scare one night with his driving. I had a big grin on my face and asked if we could go again! He was shocked.
To give you an idea of the quality of Hyundi the last decade and a half i have worked for a mechanic for nearly 2 decades. My boss listed his top 3 for me a little while back. He said the Toyota Camry hybrid no1 on Aussie roads atm. 2nd was Hyundi/Kia as Hyundi owns Kia. 3rd he said Mazda, the place i work for has been in operation with the same owners for coming up 50 years. 3 generations of the 1 family now all mechanics. 1 of our 28 year vet mechanics bought the 2019 Stinger for himself, best car add is watching what a mechanic buys. I now own a 2022 GT TT Stinger is my 2nd 1 i lost my 2021 in the Queensland floods a little while back. Such a great car i bought 2 lol. So Hyundi are not what people remember from old, the Korean car makers have hit their stride like the Japanese did back in the late 80's early 90's. My fav rally car of that era was the 1994 GT Four Celica with the shark mouth front end. Those cars are still worth a absolute fortune. Australian Police well in Queensland at least run the Stinger as a marked and unmarked Cop car, this imo is another sign of the quality now of the Korean manufacturers.
5:10 They know the corners perfectly due to there co-Driver reading the pace notes to them so the always know the angle of each turn and what gear to be in to take that turn, also road condition and if they can clip in deep or should go wide.
About the grip: Finnish gravel is the closest thing to a tarmac that gravel can be. It's not slippery at all if there are no loose rocks on the road. I've driven all kinds of cars around finnish gravel my whole life and you can't get stuck anywhere even with a sports car.
I'm guessing it's because big amount of Finnish roads are gravel and many people go to work and back on those roads, which results in them being used a lot so they get tampered and compressed together. This especially with good care of the roads
Engineer asking his driver : "So, how fast do you wanna go in Finland?" WRC driver : "YES!" P.s.: WRC was and always is a level of insanity far away from nearly anything else, except for TT Isle of Man and 24hours of Nordschleife . These people are just completely unhinged :)
Hilarious. I just started watching this racing today and stumbled across your channel. All the same reactions I had my first video. Some phenomenally crazy racing. These guys are straight up ballsy. Great stuff.
05:10 They get it correct by checking out the track before the race, so they can make notes, so then the pilot can tell the driver what is ahead, and how to approach it. Then it's up to driver skill to execute it correctly.
One of the most impressive things about those "flights", must be the dampers. Flying several meters both up and forward and then it's just planted when it touches down....AMAZING.
It takes days and weeks for the drivers and their engineers to hone out their damper settings for every individual rally event. + all the rest of the settings
The cars you said you didn't know what they were, that's the R5 category. WV Polo R5 or Skoda Fabia R5, Hyundai i20 R5, Citroen C3 R5, Citroen DS3 R5, Proton Iriz R5, Ford Fiesta R5 or Rally 2, Mitsubishi Mirage R5.
I lived for thirty years in Finland, I can testify to the fact that, for many, rally is their religion. It’s mad, mad , madsee if you can find a video shot from inside tha car. The Finns have been up at the top of the world rally world for tens of years.
Hahaha That Hyndai driver is Ott Tänak. Probably one of the wildest rally drivers ever and he is currently driving. He is infamous enough that I'm sure you would have plenty to react to even if its just about him. :D
Gotta take into account the co driver feeding instructions to the driver, literally thinking through the rally stage which is why they can send it so hard.
You should react to "WRC 1998 season finale - Laugh of Fate", its the most heartbreaking finale in the WRC for former champion Carlos Sainz. Also, great reaction as always.
Group B was an awesome idea in somebody's head. It was at least for me the pinnacle of motorsports. It didn't last and for good reasons. The current less is more philosophy with just inspiration and swept volume restricted motors may be the road to to take with these cars. Kilogram for a kilogram these cars are fire And the drivers, they are a breed of their own, I've watched a fair amount of in-car rally footage, and never have I been less than scared. At the modern level they get around less than 400 BHP out of a 1.6 engine with a weight distribution almost optimal. The homologation rules say that unless the requisite number production cars have rolled off the factory line, competing is not an option. None of them will get the ground up rebuild WRC cars go through, but having something distantly like your daily driver in there is a thrill.
my stepdad a group b lover former owner (if you go to his discord i left some pics of his group b audi rally car.) reckons that the current crop of rally cars are as quick as the group b's it just that safety has improved.
@@gregorturner9421 You're right, the safety has improved remarkably for the car occupants and especially for the audience. Seeing footage from the old times, I marvel at the low numbers of spectators killed or injured. The raw engine power the modern cars have won't challenge the group B monsters anytime soon, but the magic is elsewhere. The suspension and the intelligent control of the differentials along with the light weight and short wheelbase make the WRC cars of today maybe as fast as they have ever been.
@@bruizey7319 One thing you forgot to mention is that WRC cars have antilag and their engines are very responsive with torque that can be used effectively from turn to turn. Group B were awesome but WRC+ are equally amazing-you’d really have to be out of your mind to put them down just because they are made in modern age.
@@hillclimbracingfan5821 Modern WRC cars are to fast for me to connect with as a spectator anymore tbh. But yes, due to rev restrictions they now make huge power at low revs, have much more refined anti-lag and traction which defies physics
3:50 - It's even more amazing when you consider it has only half the cylinders of a V8! 😃 6:03 - It's amazing, isn't it, how they drift an AWD car as if it was RWD. 🤯
A big part of it are the suspension and braking are setup to with a bit of oversteer. Basically, the driver applies the brakes right at the beginning of a turn, the front end bites down and keeps traction and the rear wheels' load drops to where it just loses traction, and the back end of the car starts coming around. Then waiting until the car is pointed in the right direction, modulating the throttle until you almost clear the corner, then flooring it at the right time to get all wheels pulling you out of the corner. Lots of time playing Dirt Rally 2.0 with a force feedback when and pedal set gave me just a taste of how this works from a driver's experience. The timing, pedal feel and bravery you need to pull this off in a sim is hard enough. In a real car? Nah, I'll leave that to the professionals.
Rally is like a drug once you see them in the flesh you will be addicted. In answer to your question how they seem to stay on the road they have pace notes so they know exactly whats coming up, plus they do reconnaissance before stages.
Mate you need to experience rallying in the flesh you think its good on screen it is mind blowing for real . I am counting the days until it comes to NZin September
the pops are the anti lag system keeping the turbo spooled up. The car you asked what it was is a Skoda, part of the VW Audi family and very good cars. Hyundai have come a long way in the last 10 years but are still seen as a lower end vehicle here in the UK but they are slowly gaining a better reputation.
I think a lot of the issues to do with Hyundai are kind of commercial in nature - supply chains in the west are improving, but parts can be difficult to get, and these cars are often built and designed with mostly city use in mind, with the exception of a few longer trips every now and then. A lot of western brands seem to have cottoned on to the fact that while the west is generally developed, the majority of roads (in Europe) are effectively medieval in character and very uneven - I think that influences the design approach and makes western cars in general (across all classes) designed for more punishment and greater availability of replacement parts. Anyway, all my opinion, could be bullsh*t. The fact is, those little cars are amazing in UK backroads and make driving very fun - small engines sizes mean they can sip gasoline, not guzzle it and (while the top end isn't spectacular) you've seen that there is still plenty of performance there to be found. Compared to my experiences driving in America - though US cars are improving - I find the handling of these little guys pleasingly precise at speed and very satisfying!
Our last 5 cars since 2008 have all been Hyundais. They are great cars and we've never had a problem with any of them. We started with the i10 then i30, i40, Ioniq, and currently have the i10 N Line, which is a great wee fun car.
@@marsmacl6211 my friend had a 9 year old daly driven i10, the ignition barrel failed, and I was amazed that someone from Hyundai came out to his house and changed the ignition barrel under warranty..
It is absolutely mental, the way these drivers shred those roads. I am a speed freak, but this is next level. Being the navigating co driver? Paying attention to the road and reading directions while trusting the guy beside you is something else. I did it once. That was enough.
WRC drivers are just incredible!! Different countries have different surfaces ranging from dirt tracks (as in Finland) to tarmac, or a mixture of both. More importantly, it's also done in snow / ice & fog!! Not forgetting all the above at NIGHT!! They all do the "Scandinavian flick" where they turn the opposite way to the approaching corner, so as to turn the car into the corner way before they get there. All at 100mph plus whatever the conditions, AWESOME!!
If you want to know Hyundai driver and co driver were (2021): no. 8 - Ott Tänak /Martin Järveoja (Estonia) no.11- Thierry Neuville / Martijn Wydaeghe (Belgium) no. 42- Craig Breen / Paul Nagle (Ireland)- in 2022 driving for Ford they have numbers and flag on cars...
Mira, a veces, cuando frenan, el motor sigue acelerando. Eso lo hacen pisando el freno y el acelerador a la vez, con el mismo pie, el pie derecho. Alucinante!!!
The only people crazier than the driver and navigator are the fans. I miss watching WRC. I got hooked when SPEED channel was on now I don't know where to watch it. I love your enthusiasm. Keep up the good work.
Modern WRC cars have so much grip. That grip, and improvements in suspension make their insane speed appear less dramatic than it is because the cars are so well behaved. Modern tires are much grippier due to tire tech improvements and softer compounds, since rallies are so much shorter than before. Group B cars had more power, little grip, and considerably worse suspension, especially damping. Let’s say there’s a corner with a small compression in it. In this example corner, the modern WRC car takes it with just a dab of brake, keeping the tail in line and the suspension only slightly decompresses on the rebound after the compression in the road. It’s through the corner in a flash. The Group B car, on the other hand, would have to slow down considerably more, get the car sideways just to turn in, runs out of suspension travel through the compression and bounces wildly through corner exit, spitting massive trails of gravel from the completely overwhelmed tires. It looks dramatic but it’s slower. In a sense, the group B cars are drama queens. So modern WRC cars may only make 60-65% of the power of group B cars but they are considerably easier to drive due to the absolutely absurd technology in them thus being the reason they post faster times on stages then a group b car could. So they are without a doubt faster in competition. Overall?? absolutely not.
Group B suspensions were really bad. Everyone knows that over heating is a common thing in motorsports, but over heating suspension is not the first thing come to mind.
Thanks dude❤. Rally Finland is coming...in July🎉🎉❤😅. Toyota won both titles in 2021. Construction and drivers world championships. The team is run by Finns and it is located in Finland.
Yes, rally is THE shit in so many ways. Must be 10x the feeling when see it live, in these clips just to see the monsters approaching a point where the spectators kinda prepare to escape/ take cover, then in no seconds it have passed the point and even if the car is 100m away the spectators slowly steps out with protective gestures even sneaks out slowly like the stunning shock still is activated : )
tyres are pirelli scorpion~, and that red/white toyota driver is from finland(local "kalle"), started that rally procareer in 15years old. So welcome to jyväskylä, to neste rally finland.
Dude you HAVE to check out World Rally Cross (WRX) it’s off-road racing mixed with a bit of on circuit and vice versa. Every race lasts 5/6 laps so it’s really fast pace. But once I knew it existed I was addicted. Awesome stuff. Great video as always, love the rally stuff you put out!
Great video! I recommend you to see the Condor-Copina stage of the WRC in Argentina. According to the drivers, Argentina is the best Grand Prix, and that stage is the best. Greetings from Argentina!
In 2022 they added hybrid engines, the same combustion engine as 2021 but with electrical power as well and they now rival Group B in term of hp. Awesome cars!
One thing is the driver's bravery. I think the co-pilot sitting in the passenger seat reading pacenotes while all this crazy driving is going on has to be bravest.
So true. I think the most people would throw up, shit in their pants or both, when they would be a co-pilot for the first time. Or they would shout: Samir you have to listen; Samir please, you're breaking the car.
I agree 100%
100% right.
It’s one thing when you’re the driver, able to see the road, making steering inputs & being able to brace for each & every impact, the co-driver is literally a passenger getting thrown around, must be really difficult on the body
@@Achie79 he, i was "co driving" for a little present in an r5 car, even that feels completely insane and we werent going close as fast as finnland. But driving 120kmh+ through woods is scary as hell
I'm reminded of the old motorsport saying. "If you want to win, hire a Fin."
It's learning on roads like this that give Finnish racing drivers such phenomenal car control.
Ari Vatanen is the absolute king.
"If you want the best, hire a Est -tonian"
I remember Mika Häkkinen. He said that to Ron Dennis. Got Kimi Räikkönen A seat with McLaren in 2002
Also they start driving and racing at an early age such that driving and car control comes as second nature by the time they are old enough to drive, take a look at their racing culture and their driving school course to see that average fins are good at driving compared to most other populations
@@Midamajonees😂really?
Finland's tracks are usually one of the fastest ones in WRC season. Fast, narrow dirt roads.
The fasters. Every year.
Wide roads not narrow
Finland is death trap
Called stages. Not tracks
@@peeterkaljula24 wide ? Jyväskyläs dirt roads are not wide
Female Finn here to add a comment. 👋 Rally is something even little kids and women enjoy here. It's pretty common to see the ladies go as a group to these events yearly (and enjoy motor sports in general, taking part in stuff like tractor pulling as drivers etc. ). 😊
1.6lt 380BHP, very fast and nimble little devils, faster than the beloved Group B ones. I wish more manufacturers joined. This is the best rally era for me.
Faster thanks to easier and better handling. I still think group B was the best rally era because it had the most dangerous, difficult to drive rally cars ever made.
Agreed.WRC+ are the best thing to happen to WRC since 2000s.
New hybrid WRC motor a +500hp when electric motor give boost.
@@shaggings For their time Group B were technologically advanced and only reason why they didn't have something was because it wasn't invented yet.Pretty sure they'd gladly trade tech from then for what's in modern WRC cars.
Group B era demanded unseen courage from the drivers, driving skills were ofc great allso but there was more emphasis on courage. From team perspective it was more lucrative for car manufacturers to get in group b because it was super popular at the time even tho it was super expensive.
Modern day wrc and group a before that demands more of clinical skill from drivers than straight up courage. From team perspective group a and early wrc era times were golden age. It was so cheap to get team going in rally compared to group b era and allso modern wrc era that is again super expensive. During group a era there was like 12 different manufacturers in sport. Compared to 3 manufacturers in modern day wrc.
Fun fact: In Finland we call passengers seat the fearers seat (pelkääjänpaikka). Also the handle above the window is called horror handle (kauhukahva).
its always better to have the hands on the Rat. (ratti) :-)
We used to call them the Jesus Christ handle.
@@774Rob I personally love the OH SHIT handle
@@774Rob Jesus's hand where I live
Fun fact: despite is on gravel, Finland stages' average speeds are the highest of all the WRC calendar
I was under the impression that Estonia has slightly higher average speeds.
@@not12listen they're really close actually, but rally Finland is still on top by few km/hs
For me the fastest of the calendar is crazy Sweden on ice and snow. For example, if I take the last generation of cars, then Finland 2021 winner average speed 123.7km / h, Estonia 2021 109.9km / h and Sweden 2020 124.3km / h.
@@RadekHais That is because the average speed is limited nowadays. When it was not limited by rules rally Finland was way above the rest.
Estonian rally is very similar to rally Finland as our roads are very similar, but we have a bit wider gravel roads left unlike Estonia. I think most of those have been paved in Estonia.
Ford has been racing rally since the 60s with Ford falcons and mercury comets. Inline 6 with cams and headers. I'm about to throw a 02 Impreza front and rear subframe and drivetrain under my 64 comet 2 door hard top with awd. Outside it'll be like a 1960s rally car with KC lights and all, but inside it'll be Subaru engine awd etc.
Where it started AND where it ended up, all in one car.
The Hyandai driver is the Belgium Thierry Neuville with his co driiver Martijn Wydaeghe
3:10 Volkswagen Polo, little sister of the Golf
P.s. 6:29 that was Skoda Fabia, the cousin of the Polo (it is basically the same car but under different brand)
And the car at the end is the Skoda Fabia which is based on the Polo but from a different brand of the Volkswagen group.
@@thorstenkurafeiski1845 i know, i writed an other comment about it
oh man...you make the skoda sound bad, whats wrong with our countrys brand?
@@Sam-wb7ot Nothing on the contrary with your brand, indeed if I had to take a car between vw and skoda I would choose the latter, there are some cases where a little personal touch of the brand remains. Unfortunately, however, it is the cruel reality that some manufacturers share the parts or the worst thing is practically the same vehicle to which they have changed the emblem and sometimes the price.
@@marco_grt4460 sorry misunderstanding on my part and also....yeah its kinda sad that we basically cant event make skoda like we want to since we wouldve been strugling with money if we werent in the volkswagen group😒
I love how perfectly sprung the suspensions are. When they land, there is no bounce!
They land like cats!
@@clarebearr5357 exactly ! LOL 😸
small country town, gravel roads, one police car in town, me on my way to work each morning in my Focus. I hate my job but i love going to work.
I am a Finnish rally fan and have some 40 years of experience in the Finnish rally, for example, so the current and driveability in the current cars is much better than in group b and they are really much faster in special stages and that's a fact. Group b was again in a class of its own in the sense that longer races were driven and they were powerful in their own class and the cars didn't weigh much. But it went all the time in a more dangerous direction and when Henri Toivonen and SERGIO died it was the last rivet, they had become too dangerous and the fact that group b was stopped was the right decision for me, nhe cars were too crazy to drive and there would be more bodies if would have continued, although the rally is still dangerous today. There are still a lot of forest roads in Finland and almost everyone has tried their skills with them, so what the tops pull themselves would not be enough, even if I could remember the route.
Group b engineers had free reign to do what they wanted that's why it became dangerous if engineers in f1 had the same the car would be undrivable for the human body today's wrc cars are so much faster than group b but they have better technology
❤RIP Henri & Sergio
Yeah it wasnt the power it was the crash safety and power compared to safety equipment etc.
They could probably do a safe rally with 5-600hp rallycross engines nowadays ;)
@@eamh2002 I think sometimes we might have reached the point where we could build machines that would require superhumans to drive them safely. I think its easier to qualify what I mean in F1. I think if engineers would be given free reign there (full v12 turbocharged hybrid groundeffect car with electronic assist and such the drivers would probably just go unconscious in turns. the problems in ralley are less obvious and more variable but I think the same problem of the machines just being too much for humans would show up.
Well, at least ive had many more comments about slowing it a f*ck down than ive heard in any amusement park that ride was too fast. Also, now with new cars, speeds go up into levels... well jumpstraight was 120kph max with airtime,
Throwing dog from backseat well into ceiling and have it land into backseat in `97 primera was just for fun and i could do it so that dog was unscathed. and now it is maybe 160kph, but i wont try. If it goes out of control it is bad news. Wrcs would blow that stage without slowing.
Those who really drive rally at competition level, are fast as hell and have cars built for it.
I encourage you to watch the 2022 Croatia rally video from JR Rallye, watching them fly on tight twisty roads is amazing (also this is the first year of hybrid power trains, but unlike f1 they retained their amazing sound)
Agreed
best rally so far
I think they sound even better than before this year.
@@bett431 Heard them live and they sound savage.
Finnish driver Kalle Rovanperä won that face👍
The guy who absolutely sends it in the Hyundai is Thierry Neuville a Belgian Rallye driver👍🏼
NEUVILLE IS CRYNG BABY. JUST LUCKY. GO OTT GO OTT GO OTT GO OTT....GOOOT..GOOOT...GOOOT!!!!!!
Most of the Hyundai clips where he makes that comment are of Craig breen you can see flag on car
@@eoinmcauley2050 i can see myself in most of the clips where the irish flag is
@@collins2983 🇮🇪🇮🇪 nobody does it like us bai 💨💨
@@eoinmcauley2050 facto
Watch their driving from onboard, you can see their turning their wheel way before they even get to the turns. Insane precision driving is the key here!!
Weight distribution. Deciding when to let car push and when to wave behind you.. is art.
I am with you. Completely amazed with the skill, courage, and amazing bond between driver and navigator. Best motor sport period! Thanks for vid!
5:20: The driver knows where to turn, which gear to use, etc because the navigator directs him from pace notes of the course.
Hi mate, you ask about Hyundai's drivers. They are Ott Tanak (world rally champion 2019) and Thierry Neuville . Great drivers.
Hands down best drivers on earth. I was lucky to experience once as a passenger and it was absolutely sick awesomeness
90s and 2000s are my favorite era of rally.However,2017-2021 WRC+ cars are the best i've seen in terms of raw performance and speed.Mental,violent and absolutely hairing it.
They are the best thing to happen to WRC since 2000s.
Everyone always says group b was the best but I liked group A/early wrc years, a good mix of technology and raw mechanical monsters + drivers like Mäkinen, McRae, Grönholm, Burns, Solberg... a truly epic era.
@@blubug768 The best era.
One thing I do know about these guys, especially these guys on the world stage as I had a friend who did local rally, they don't lift off the accelerator . . They just left foot brake and change gears so that they keep the turbo spinning and the torque on the drive. . these guys are supremely talented and have massive balls!!
Rally Finland is not for the faint of heart... As Colin McRae said : " When in doubt, flat out "
If you can, you should take a trip to Finland and see one of these races live! Maybe contact one/some of your finnish subscriber(s) who have experience on the matter to hook you guys up to some good spot of the track.
Some proper corners where they throw the cars around and jumps are great places and ofcourse the difficult spots where..... You as a spectator can get some exercise. ;)
@@KPTKleist you can’t even compare… WRC is ON a total Different level.
All the cars and probably All the factory Team drivers are far superior.
@@KPTKleist You are so wrong. How many ARA drivers compete in the world championship?.... Blocks highest finish was 9th and his highest ranking in the world championship was 19th in 2010. When you say "Equally" you are way off. I have been to a couple WRC events and when I lived in the states I went to a couple of round of the ARA Championship. Great events with great drivers but no comparison to the WRC
@@Pyllymysli ''Some proper corners''. Many of men have gotten taken out in those ''proper corners'' in the past. Dont be stupid and stand on the outer edge of the corner!
@@rockmcdwayne1710 Yeah obviously. I think it's the first priority and responsibility for the spectators to stay safe, absolutely. Driving is better when drivers don't worry about them and most importantly we don't want to see any tragedies in rally no more.
The group B indeed is legendary. When they stopped Group B all the experiences, innovations and developments were not wasted, but were the foundation of what modern rallycars are today.
The burble of the limiter as their foot remains planted to the floor when airborne, tells you all you need to know about how hard these lads drive.
No other form of motor sport comes close to these guys talents.
In europe there is a time limits who can get fastest the race point is to drive faster and do it faster its like WRC = F1 + offroading.
This red white Toyota Yaris is driven by Kalle Rovanpera and he is 17yo actually.
The two cars that you didn't recognize were a VW Polo and a Skoda Fabia.
The teams, at least the official ones, have 2 or 3 cars in each rally.
At the moment, Toyota and Hyunday are the big names with the M-Sport team (the ford fiestas) a bit behind....
The tires change a lot between the races but Finland is all "dirt" tires. A lighter version of the ones use in crawlers or rock climbing.
Btw you have a growing rally culture in the US with names like Ken Block (that participated a few times in WRC events) and Travis Pastrana.
While we may have lost Group B long ago... current WRC still hits as hard as ever and I'm really digging Team Hyundai x Neuville. Their pedal-to-the-metal in each and every race while modern tech shows how good those cars can handle all of this abuse.
Idk man, tanak is a McRae type. He crashes a lot, but when he's in his element, he's unbeatable
@@grahamreece519 ott doesent crash alot, neuville does🤦♂️
@@peeterkaljula24 Tanak has had more damage and crash-related retirements over the last few years than Neuville
Portugal is trying to bring back Group B :)
@@peeterkaljula24 Neuville doesn't crash a lot. It's his car that's unreliable. Over 75% of his recent retirements were due to mechanical or electrical failure rather that driver error.
This is one of the best rally videos you have reacted to Iwrocker the skill these drivers have is incredible and the speed they are going is insane
After watching the latest video of rally driving from Iwrocker I still think this video has got to be in the top 5
In Ouninpohja, Finland 2003, Markko Märtin (EST) set the record for the longest jump, travelling 57 meters (187 ft) in the air at a speed of 171 kilometres per hour (106 mph).
I'm kinda pissed that Ouninpohja is not included in this year's race :(
Making the longest jump doesn't win you stages. On the contrary, the drivers like Ogier don't lose time with stupid jumps.
@@antoinemozart243yet he won that rally
Today wrc cars have more speed then group B did but than again if you see the technical improvement they made, you can only look in awe for these riders.
As a Belgian I love Ypres rallye (very narrow streets, no room for error, many will fail at their first attempt) but it was only until I when to see wrc I saw these are on a whole different level. Great to see your appreciation grows for this sport!
You should react to some video from inside the rally cab, its crazy sounding how the co-driver gives instructions. Thats how they keep the car in the road, they know what is coming in like few seconds in advance.
Group B was king !
We are facing a new generation.
Peugeot and Citroen feature fabulous cars.
The biturbo, all-whell- drive Peugeots were truly beasts .
And the Lancias as well.
Look at them going up Pikes Peak.
Michelle Mouton going up that mountain, still paved with dirt, sun and dust blocking her vision.
Forcing her to shield, to protect her eyes with one hand, while driving with the left hand, was scary.
I believe Lancia and Audi are taking a leave of absence - we miss them.
The skills required a Rally are unbelievable.
Rally Finland is my favourite rally of the year because of the insane speeds and jumps, I only just followed rally recently and know how some are different in terms of personality and scenery, it's also very obscure as well.
And the raining newly crowned champion of the world Kalle Rovanperä from Finland commanding one of those Toyotas.
I was on the crowd in 21 and 22 at those stages with my son, if it looks baffling in the video how they manage these cars at those speeds, you should definetly see it live, standing by the road as they fly by. Your brain can't compute how it is even possible.
2017-2021 was the best era of modern WRC. In 2022 new regulations came and now cars are hybrids. So they have the same 1.6L engines with 380hp but they also have a battery set which drivers can use in certain moments during stage (much like DRS in F1, but it's battery). So combined power is higher around 550hp I think but cars are heavier thus probably slower in corners. So kinda similar to group B, fast straights and slow corners. Still I recommend you to watch some of the 2022 WRC videos they are awesome. Keep up a good content😊
you're talking about the ERS (energy recovery system) in F1. that's the battery power part of the hybrid engines in F1
DRS is different. it doesn't give extra power, but reduces drag for higher speeds
@@DJarr216 yes but I compared those because you can use batteries in WRC in certain areas much like DRS in F1. Not when you want.
"... slower in corners.", is said, of course, in an entirely tongue-in-cheek way!
@@rayjennings3637 no. Why? Not much changed from 2021 in terms of aero and suspension and so on. So greater weight means car is slower in corners. Power does not compensate for cornering speed. So yes cars are slower in corners.
@@matixok1167 Lower cornering speed is more about the lack of fancy diffs than the little extra weight though
Hyundia did hire some German Engineers for there N versions of their cars, which are the more sporting variants. They have moved on from there cheap cars to good cars competing witrh the german cars atleast in the non-luxury segment with the hatch backs. Those EVs they just brought out with Hyundia EV6 and Kia Iconiq 5 are challanging the in the market below the model 3 and Y. So there is good competition coming from Hyundia and KIA. The European desing center for Kia is in Frankfurt, so they have something going tthere.
I love group b, let me just start with that, but I think modern rally is getting to that point of being just as amazing. Like the speed and control, the cars and courses, it’s just so good. I think if rallying keeps getting more and more attention this modern era in the next few years has the potential to really be something special. Also been loving the vids man, keep on being you and crushing it out here. Also totally agree with you, the Hyundais are the best and glad you get that lol
You might want to check out "Climb Dance", starring the great Ari Vatanen. That's some insane driving right there.
You should watch onboard videos like Marcus Gronholm 6th gear 46sec in Ouninpohja stage on rally finland. There are plenty of onboard videos from famous Ouninpohja stage :)
Ouninpohja is a legend💪
Yellow house jump ❤️🔥
04:26 one is our Estonian driver Ott Tänak with co-driver Martin Järveoja. Hi from Estonia !
Rally has always been, to me, the epitome of motor sports. Group B holds a special place in nostalgia, was not even just about the power, or speed.
The fans were as crazy as the drivers, Portugal in the mid '80's is still mental to watch, the Lancia parting the crowds :D
On straights they typically go the max speed which is usually around 150mph thru trees. These drivers have balls of steel
"How is he getting that correct?"
That would be the combination of an excellent driver, co-driver, and their "pacenotes" for each stage. It's a team sport for sure!
hyundai started rallying in the 90s. i first saw them in action in the rally of Australia in 1996. It was an F2 class rally car in the WRC championship based on the hyundai coupe built by MSD in the UK, driven by Alister McRae, the younger McRae brother, he later went on to drive in the WRC class with the Hyundai Accent in 1999 which stopped running in 2003. the current hyundai team we see on WRC started rallying in 2014 and is 100% brand new, based in Germany. Btw, hyundai road cars today are really well built, high tech and has a quality feel to them.
Rally drivers are amazing but the navigators are the back bone of going this fast if your pace notes are on point then you can absolutely mash the loud pedal 👍🇦🇺
I wouldn't say they're the backbone. Back in the 70s and 80s on some rallies the co-driver didn't have pace notes. They only had directions for the road sections between Stages.
@@oldlud8971 They weren't always back then, but they *are* now.
@@oldlud8971 well..that was 30 years ago. Co-drivers today are more then 50% on,and also off stages in a rally.
As someone with little rally experience I have to say codrivers are a distraction imo I have no idea what their on about especially when your going flat out If I could run without a codriver I would
@@owenisaacson724 Then you would absolutley end up in last place in every race because if you tryed to actually compete,you wouldn not stand a chans in hell 😏 and you would probably not be in time to stages if you did all time counding yourself etc,etc. There is no way to do this alone even if you were allowed to.
One of the Toyota's is driven by Kalle Rovanperä, who is the youngest race winner in WRC history (20 years old) in 2021, and is currently leading the championship with almost double the points to the one who's second. He's a proper rally prodigy
Modern WRC are faster than Group B cars. The breaks, suspension, dampers, aero kits are so much better they are so fast in corners. These cars always look so perfectly balanced under breaking.
Group B ended in 1986 .. imagine if they still kept going since those old group B cars had almost 0 electronics to help the cars perform better.
These current cars would be like toy cars compared to the monsters that group B would be using if they where still around.
@@Ormathon probably if they're keep going, they would have electronics anyway by mid 90's...🤷♂️
@@chacaf22 Group B would probably be 5-10 years ahead in tech as they where back in the days :D.
@@Ormathon and what's I'm says? OK, so by end of the 80's they will have loads and loads of electronics👍
Great vid AGAIN! Hyundai in the UK BTCC Touring Cars are doing really well. Toyota too. Keep it up!
IMO group b was insane... and is still my favourite, but the speed of this new era of wrc, and the aggression, is unmatched and is the closest to the group b era. The crazy aero and the noise paired with the sheer speed make it for me.
Friend of mine at Uni in Aus was an aspiring rally driver, had a Lancia all set up with racing seats etc. Best fun taking the 'long way' home finding the dirt roads and going sideways round corners. He had a friend who didn't know me try to give me (a girl) a scare one night with his driving. I had a big grin on my face and asked if we could go again! He was shocked.
That was off the chart i love WRC and so wish the Western Australian government would bring it back to W.A, i miss it.
👍🤠
We got that red bull air race instead because they wanted to promote the city of Perth , they still think tourists come to WA see the city ... idiots
To give you an idea of the quality of Hyundi the last decade and a half i have worked for a mechanic for nearly 2 decades. My boss listed his top 3 for me a little while back. He said the Toyota Camry hybrid no1 on Aussie roads atm. 2nd was Hyundi/Kia as Hyundi owns Kia. 3rd he said Mazda, the place i work for has been in operation with the same owners for coming up 50 years. 3 generations of the 1 family now all mechanics. 1 of our 28 year vet mechanics bought the 2019 Stinger for himself, best car add is watching what a mechanic buys. I now own a 2022 GT TT Stinger is my 2nd 1 i lost my 2021 in the Queensland floods a little while back. Such a great car i bought 2 lol. So Hyundi are not what people remember from old, the Korean car makers have hit their stride like the Japanese did back in the late 80's early 90's. My fav rally car of that era was the 1994 GT Four Celica with the shark mouth front end. Those cars are still worth a absolute fortune. Australian Police well in Queensland at least run the Stinger as a marked and unmarked Cop car, this imo is another sign of the quality now of the Korean manufacturers.
5:10 They know the corners perfectly due to there co-Driver reading the pace notes to them so the always know the angle of each turn and what gear to be in to take that turn, also road condition and if they can clip in deep or should go wide.
Here in Argentina we drive 120 km on the dirt street.
this stuff is just insane! love it!
At 6:20 it's a WRC2 VW Polo and at 6:27 a WRC2 Skoda Fabia ( cousin of the VW ). A bit slower than the main category but still awesome to watch !
About the grip: Finnish gravel is the closest thing to a tarmac that gravel can be. It's not slippery at all if there are no loose rocks on the road. I've driven all kinds of cars around finnish gravel my whole life and you can't get stuck anywhere even with a sports car.
I'm guessing it's because big amount of Finnish roads are gravel and many people go to work and back on those roads, which results in them being used a lot so they get tampered and compressed together. This especially with good care of the roads
Most of these clips are from my country’s (Latvia 🇱🇻) track (you can see by the flag tide to 2 trees)
Engineer asking his driver : "So, how fast do you wanna go in Finland?"
WRC driver : "YES!"
P.s.: WRC was and always is a level of insanity far away from nearly anything else, except for TT Isle of Man and 24hours of Nordschleife . These people are just completely unhinged :)
Most drivers would admit that before tackling Ouninpohja, they have some butterflies.
Hilarious. I just started watching this racing today and stumbled across your channel. All the same reactions I had my first video. Some phenomenally crazy racing. These guys are straight up ballsy. Great stuff.
In case of doubt, flat out!! When you hear the pops on the jumps, you know they are pushing the gas to the max :O
6:20 Rally Gravel tires
Rally Poland 2017 provides some brilliant shots aswell, definitely worth a watch
05:10 They get it correct by checking out the track before the race, so they can make notes, so then the pilot can tell the driver what is ahead, and how to approach it.
Then it's up to driver skill to execute it correctly.
One of the most impressive things about those "flights", must be the dampers. Flying several meters both up and forward and then it's just planted when it touches down....AMAZING.
It takes days and weeks for the drivers and their engineers to hone out their damper settings for every individual rally event. + all the rest of the settings
The cars you said you didn't know what they were, that's the R5 category. WV Polo R5 or Skoda Fabia R5, Hyundai i20 R5, Citroen C3 R5, Citroen DS3 R5, Proton Iriz R5, Ford Fiesta R5 or Rally 2, Mitsubishi Mirage R5.
I lived for thirty years in Finland, I can testify to the fact that, for many, rally is their religion. It’s mad, mad , madsee if you can find a video shot from inside tha car. The Finns have been up at the top of the world rally world for tens of years.
& France.
Hahaha That Hyndai driver is Ott Tänak. Probably one of the wildest rally drivers ever and he is currently driving.
He is infamous enough that I'm sure you would have plenty to react to even if its just about him. :D
Gotta take into account the co driver feeding instructions to the driver, literally thinking through the rally stage which is why they can send it so hard.
Bit more challenging than driving a continuous left turn for hundreds of laps. Respect to rally drivers, the clips shown were superb.
You should react to "WRC 1998 season finale - Laugh of Fate", its the most heartbreaking finale in the WRC for former champion Carlos Sainz. Also, great reaction as always.
These are my favorite videos to watch when I'm stoned. I love your reactions and the stuff you watch. Nice hat too!😁
Group B was an awesome idea in somebody's head. It was at least for me the pinnacle of motorsports. It didn't last and for good reasons. The current less is more philosophy with just inspiration and swept volume restricted motors may be the road to to take with these cars. Kilogram for a kilogram these cars are fire And the drivers, they are a breed of their own, I've watched a fair amount of in-car rally footage, and never have I been less than scared.
At the modern level they get around less than 400 BHP out of a 1.6 engine with a weight distribution almost optimal.
The homologation rules say that unless the requisite number production cars have rolled off the factory line, competing is not an option. None of them will get the ground up rebuild WRC cars go through, but having something distantly like your daily driver in there is a thrill.
my stepdad a group b lover former owner (if you go to his discord i left some pics of his group b audi rally car.) reckons that the current crop of rally cars are as quick as the group b's it just that safety has improved.
@@gregorturner9421 You're right, the safety has improved remarkably for the car occupants and especially for the audience. Seeing footage from the old times, I marvel at the low numbers of spectators killed or injured.
The raw engine power the modern cars have won't challenge the group B monsters anytime soon, but the magic is elsewhere. The suspension and the intelligent control of the differentials along with the light weight and short wheelbase make the WRC cars of today maybe as fast as they have ever been.
What a lot of people forget is the length of the stages in the group B era. Fatigue was a massive challenge to overcome for drivers and co-drivers.
@@bruizey7319 One thing you forgot to mention is that WRC cars have antilag and their engines are very responsive with torque that can be used effectively from turn to turn.
Group B were awesome but WRC+ are equally amazing-you’d really have to be out of your mind to put them down just because they are made in modern age.
@@hillclimbracingfan5821 Modern WRC cars are to fast for me to connect with as a spectator anymore tbh. But yes, due to rev restrictions they now make huge power at low revs, have much more refined anti-lag and traction which defies physics
3:50 - It's even more amazing when you consider it has only half the cylinders of a V8! 😃
6:03 - It's amazing, isn't it, how they drift an AWD car as if it was RWD. 🤯
Not a 3 cylinder.
@@shaggings half the cylinders of a V8 is 4 cylinders, not 3.
@@Tami_DE
😂👍
@@Tami_DE Jester here edited his comment to make fun of me...He originally said WRC cars have 3 cylinders.
A big part of it are the suspension and braking are setup to with a bit of oversteer. Basically, the driver applies the brakes right at the beginning of a turn, the front end bites down and keeps traction and the rear wheels' load drops to where it just loses traction, and the back end of the car starts coming around. Then waiting until the car is pointed in the right direction, modulating the throttle until you almost clear the corner, then flooring it at the right time to get all wheels pulling you out of the corner.
Lots of time playing Dirt Rally 2.0 with a force feedback when and pedal set gave me just a taste of how this works from a driver's experience. The timing, pedal feel and bravery you need to pull this off in a sim is hard enough. In a real car? Nah, I'll leave that to the professionals.
Rally is like a drug once you see them in the flesh you will be addicted. In answer to your question how they seem to stay on the road they have pace notes so they know exactly whats coming up, plus they do reconnaissance before stages.
When an average american discovers what "real steering" is... 😁
Mate you need to experience rallying in the flesh you think its good on screen it is mind blowing for real . I am counting the days until it comes to NZin September
You have to admire the sheer skill of these drivers.
I just imagine a cop trying to chase down a rally driver in one of these cars :) No chance. Haha
the pops are the anti lag system keeping the turbo spooled up.
The car you asked what it was is a Skoda, part of the VW Audi family and very good cars.
Hyundai have come a long way in the last 10 years but are still seen as a lower end vehicle here in the UK but they are slowly gaining a better reputation.
I think a lot of the issues to do with Hyundai are kind of commercial in nature - supply chains in the west are improving, but parts can be difficult to get, and these cars are often built and designed with mostly city use in mind, with the exception of a few longer trips every now and then. A lot of western brands seem to have cottoned on to the fact that while the west is generally developed, the majority of roads (in Europe) are effectively medieval in character and very uneven - I think that influences the design approach and makes western cars in general (across all classes) designed for more punishment and greater availability of replacement parts. Anyway, all my opinion, could be bullsh*t.
The fact is, those little cars are amazing in UK backroads and make driving very fun - small engines sizes mean they can sip gasoline, not guzzle it and (while the top end isn't spectacular) you've seen that there is still plenty of performance there to be found. Compared to my experiences driving in America - though US cars are improving - I find the handling of these little guys pleasingly precise at speed and very satisfying!
Our last 5 cars since 2008 have all been Hyundais. They are great cars and we've never had a problem with any of them. We started with the i10 then i30, i40, Ioniq, and currently have the i10 N Line, which is a great wee fun car.
@@marsmacl6211 my friend had a 9 year old daly driven i10, the ignition barrel failed, and I was amazed that someone from Hyundai came out to his house and changed the ignition barrel under warranty..
@@marsmacl6211 5 cars in 14 years? A household or one owner?
@@Cheepchipsable 1 owner.
Ott Tänak, Breen Graig and Neuville Thierry were driving the Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC but Evans Elfyn won the race with Toyota Yaris WRC
Group B was more romantic. The crowds were crazy and the events were tests of endurance as well as speed.
It is absolutely mental, the way these drivers shred those roads. I am a speed freak, but this is next level. Being the navigating co driver? Paying attention to the road and reading directions while trusting the guy beside you is something else. I did it once. That was enough.
WRC drivers are just incredible!! Different countries have different surfaces ranging from dirt tracks (as in Finland) to tarmac, or a mixture of both. More importantly, it's also done in snow / ice & fog!! Not forgetting all the above at NIGHT!!
They all do the "Scandinavian flick" where they turn the opposite way to the approaching corner, so as to turn the car into the corner way before they get there. All at 100mph plus whatever the conditions, AWESOME!!
If you want to know Hyundai driver and co driver were (2021):
no. 8 - Ott Tänak /Martin Järveoja (Estonia)
no.11- Thierry Neuville / Martijn Wydaeghe (Belgium)
no. 42- Craig Breen / Paul Nagle (Ireland)- in 2022 driving for Ford
they have numbers and flag on cars...
Mira, a veces, cuando frenan, el motor sigue acelerando. Eso lo hacen pisando el freno y el acelerador a la vez, con el mismo pie, el pie derecho. Alucinante!!!
I usually watch mixed rally cars like the newer ones and the older ones and its EPIC
The only people crazier than the driver and navigator are the fans. I miss watching WRC. I got hooked when SPEED channel was on now I don't know where to watch it. I love your enthusiasm. Keep up the good work.
I started watching rallyu in the Group B era I was 10... Your enthusiasm for it makes me feel like im that age again ;)
Modern WRC cars have so much grip. That grip, and improvements in suspension make their insane speed appear less dramatic than it is because the cars are so well behaved. Modern tires are much grippier due to tire tech improvements and softer compounds, since rallies are so much shorter than before. Group B cars had more power, little grip, and considerably worse suspension, especially damping.
Let’s say there’s a corner with a small compression in it. In this example corner, the modern WRC car takes it with just a dab of brake, keeping the tail in line and the suspension only slightly decompresses on the rebound after the compression in the road. It’s through the corner in a flash. The Group B car, on the other hand, would have to slow down considerably more, get the car sideways just to turn in, runs out of suspension travel through the compression and bounces wildly through corner exit, spitting massive trails of gravel from the completely overwhelmed tires. It looks dramatic but it’s slower. In a sense, the group B cars are drama queens.
So modern WRC cars may only make 60-65% of the power of group B cars but they are considerably easier to drive due to the absolutely absurd technology in them thus being the reason they post faster times on stages then a group b car could. So they are without a doubt faster in competition. Overall?? absolutely not.
Group B suspensions were really bad.
Everyone knows that over heating is a common thing in motorsports, but over heating suspension is not the first thing come to mind.
@@XtreeM_FaiL that’s a fact😂😂😂 it would absolutely be my very last thought if at all. That’s still crazy to think about.
The twitch to set up for a bend on dirt road rallying is called the Scandinavian Flick.
Thanks dude❤. Rally Finland is coming...in July🎉🎉❤😅. Toyota won both titles in 2021. Construction and drivers world championships. The team is run by Finns and it is located in Finland.
How’s he getting the turns right? He’s got guy next to him reading from his notes in a car doing that around him. Hats off to those guys.
Yes, rally is THE shit in so many ways.
Must be 10x the feeling when see it live, in these clips just to see the monsters approaching a point where the spectators kinda prepare to escape/ take cover, then in no seconds it have passed the point and even if the car is 100m away the spectators slowly steps out with protective gestures even sneaks out slowly like the stunning shock still is activated : )
tyres are pirelli scorpion~, and that red/white toyota driver is from finland(local "kalle"), started that rally procareer in 15years old. So welcome to jyväskylä, to neste rally finland.
Dude you HAVE to check out World Rally Cross (WRX) it’s off-road racing mixed with a bit of on circuit and vice versa. Every race lasts 5/6 laps so it’s really fast pace. But once I knew it existed I was addicted. Awesome stuff.
Great video as always, love the rally stuff you put out!
Great video! I recommend you to see the Condor-Copina stage of the WRC in Argentina. According to the drivers, Argentina is the best Grand Prix, and that stage is the best. Greetings from Argentina!
In 2022 they added hybrid engines, the same combustion engine as 2021 but with electrical power as well and they now rival Group B in term of hp. Awesome cars!