Yes! Tbh I honestly wish it could have surprised its audience by actually being good (but as we saw that wasn’t the case), also it could have been it’s own Scooby-Doo AU kind of thing, so that’s another disappointment DX
I don't think it was ever a "Scooby Doo" show. I have a feeling they pitched a show but had to re-skin it as "insert beloved property" to get it aired.
Please don’t call this a retelling of Scooby-Doo, it’s NOT A RETELLING. Also Cartoon Network’s Mystery Incorporated is an actual good adult Scooby-Doo show
@@christopherwilliams6902 I know……but that doesn’t change how fucked up it is or how it’s ruining the Scooby-Doo name and it can’t even be factually called a Scooby-Doo show because it doesn’t have “-the dumb dog-“. Mindy Khayling’s line, not mine
Velma's writing is opposite to Amphibia. Likable flawed main character, protagonists are not jerks, toxic relationships get deconstructed and then flourish, manipulative villains get redeemed or put down, and finally, actually funny jokes!
Personally I would keep Fred's mom the villain but change the motive she believes that doctor Edna was screwed over by her father and wants to prove she was right by putting the brain of the so called "perfect girl" into a rebellious child you can even add to her backstory that it was actually her who helped the family business be the success it is today but her husband being the sexist jerk he is took all the credit. This show talks about sexism but never gives an example that a female audience member can relate too
Yes, I love that you point that out. This show loves to talk about sexism, racism, or any other issue but does absolutely nothing with it. Which sucks by the way, because you can do a lot with those issues in your show, it's the way they handle it is very poorly.
@RickyTicky’s Descent! thanks granted the one element of the original scooby doo that was weak was the mystery ironically but if you are going to reboot the show for an adult audience and pride yourself on being mature I expect a more well thought out mystery even if the main focus is comedy
You know what sucks? What you said is right. This could be a solid adult themed Scooby Doo. This mystery conspiracy about all these girls being murdered could easily be adapted with just the regular Mystery crew. I would keep Scooby-Doo and have him talk and just make that normal because whatever? If we take Scooby as normal we can stretch that creative brain a bit. I would keep the gang not friends except maybe Shaggy and Freddy being friends when they were younger and slowly drifted apart. I'd keep Velma's missing Mom and that is what made her kinda standoffish and a person who is into gathering and deciphering clues. Fred is captain of many sports team which is why he is a great leader and strategist. I would have Daphne be one of the girls who gets caught which is a Easter egg to her being a bit of a damsel but swerve and have her save herself before the gang comes to demonstrate how resourceful she is. Shaggy accidentally gets involved and is reluctant to stick around but stays because he genuinely wants to help out. After awhile you see them all hang out not because of wanting to stop the murders but because they're becoming friends. Velma slowly opens up and the gang finds her Mom not alive but what happen to her. Now the Mystery is personal and Fred discovers that his family is somehow connected. Daphne finds out so is hers and Shaggy as well. This obviously causes tension and the gang split. But in the end all find separate parts to the whole mystery ( again a nod to the original and legitimate reason they split up) afterwards they catch the baddies and uncover the secrets for the murders. BOOM a somewhat grim Scooby-Doo could work if you put in the effort?
If you’ve seen that Velma meets the original Velma animation, that had a really good take on how it could have worked, and could have used that to show why the first episodes were really bad
Poor Mindy Kahling... imagine how awful her life must have been for her to use her fame as a vehicle to express her internal misery, even as she has succeeded in a way young Mindy couldn't have even imagined. What a krunt.
Ironically, the biggest reason I got HBO max in the first place was because of their animation selection. I will never not be salty about Infinity Train.
I piggyback off of someone else, so I'm not in charge of the subscription, but if I were, I'd have rage canceled my subscription as soon as I heard about what they did to Infinity Train and other actually amazing cartoons. As of now I don't log into the app anymore. Screw that platform, especially if they're going to be spewing out shit like this Velma instead of more Infinity Train.
I think it's a toss up between Fred & Norville for the best Mystery gang in this show. Velma is firmly at the bottom. Gigi is the 2nd best character. The best character is the Sheriff, solely for hitting Velma with his patrol car.
Yeah I think Gigi was great tbh, but sadly she was there for like 2 episodes (if I remember correctly), and then she just disappeared :(. Also, yeah Fred and Norville were at least a little bearable, because they were always getting treated badly 💀
At some point, Hollywood started hiring terrible writers but the art talent has remained top notch. It stinks that we can't just have both talented writers and artists. There are so many sub-par forgettable stories getting pumped out where you can tell the artists worked just as hard as ever on.
"Be cool Scooby Doo" was what this show could have been, since they were going for humor. "Mystery Inc." was another way this show should have been, which did a good job at taking the idea more seriously. I enjoyed both of those versions of "Scooby Doo", but from what I've seen from those who have reviewed the series, this is one of the worst series ever brought to television.
I agree. Altho I wouldve made Scooby-Doo into a service dog for Norville. Like say he has anxiety or something and his parents got him Scooby to help him. that wouldve been a good way to add Scooby-Doo in without making him a talking dog. Also I would make Norville and Fred have a slow burn romance type thing (I just really want Fred and shaggy to get together....) Like over time Norville loses his crush on Velma after hanging out with Fred a lot. That would've been cute. Edit: also Norville could teach Fred to be a better person.
Also a good way to explain Scooby-Doo talking is just say Shaggy and the gang are high all the time. The monsters are just their hallucinations and when they “unmask” the “monsters”, it’s just them coming off their high. They’re from hippie times when EVERYONE was hitting the pipe so seeing the “monsters” was pretty damn normal
Honestly, even having Fred’s Mom as the killer could work, but they needed to build to that. I was just thinking of a way they could have made that so interesting with a concept of - “Fred’s Mom was wanting to put her brain into Fred, but needed to make sure the method worked and that she had good control over the person who was gonna do the switch. So then you could have done Dia Dinkley as “the villain” with the reveal that she was hypnotized to be the one doing the surgeries and claiming to be Edna Perdue.” I’d also add in that it would have been more interesting to change the purpose of the General’s plan too - like perhaps it was meant as a way to get control over foreign companies and businesses that went against his organization or the Government. Which could lead into a bigger mystery - What is his “organization” or the Government planning that they needed to do a plan like this to handle any detractors? Also a more interesting idea too would be that they actually kidnap boys and girls. They implant the girl’s brains into the boys, hypnotize them to keep quiet and be a bit more boyish while they think they are “liberating the girls” from their limitations, although it would be revealed they actually aren’t, just messing with their minds or something. Basically the reason why they “killed” the girls and stole their brains was to test the method and made sure they got it right. Because Fred’s mom wouldn’t want to risk getting it wrong. They’d put the brain of her “failure of a son” (as she’d put it, but really she just wants to be immortal and had Fred in part to pull this plan off) in the body of some girl (maybe one they didn’t get rid of) so Fred wouldn’t need to have any responsibilities according to her. That or just would have intended to get rid of his brain. As for hints to it, the hint of “Perdue’s lab in Fred’s basement” still works, but you could also maybe add more about the general and that he had a kid… someone who abandoned him when the General was shamed and lost his position of power. It’d later be revealed that was his daughter, narrowing the pool more of who it could be. You can also add in that Fred’s mother has a negative reaction to even hearing about her father, who she refuses to acknowledge any connection to and sees him as a failure that couldn’t keep the power that he had. Probably believing that it was merely because “he was a man” that he got the position of power he had, and his failure was because managed to be stupid enough to not hold onto his power. But her schemes will work and she’ll use the “power men have right”. All of the characters would have to be heavily rewritten.
I don’t want to repeat my bias thought, but episode 3 TOTALLY broke my patience for me! Because, I’ve expected Daphne and Velma to just STICK with the pummels and near-death physical blows to the body and face, instead of “subverting our expectations” with a lame show-don’t-tell exposure moment, which I find very inappropriate, which ends with a pussy kick! Just, why?
One of the more thought out reviews on this platform. It is much appreciated and I like your avatar. I had a lot of the same analysis points you had that a lot of people seem to miss for some reason and I thought I was going crazy. I’ve been reading some fanfics to see if anyone can improve the writing. It seems that having Norville as the lead and having Velma as a side character makes it more tolerable. And some of them focus on the therapy aspect of Norvilles character they bring up in ep 3. It’s an interesting excuse to bring the other two together in in the gang since they definitely all need counseling. I’m trying to write a scene right now where Fred is trying to cope with his mom being gone by searching for Dr. Purdues ghost in Velma’s house. And Velma at first tries to stop him then starts playing along after she starts empathizing with their shared fear of their mothers not loving them. The problem is it’s hard to write Velma not too out of character from the show because it feels miserable to write a completely awful person. The Scoobi project ghosts coming back to haunt them would be a cool idea, (although I’m not sure how you defeat ghosts.) And it isn’t completely taken out of the question given the season cliffhanger.
Holy moly good luck with that scene! Also, thanks for telling about the fanfics, I might read those, cause tbh, I actually wanted Velma to surprise audiences. Hopefully those fanfics do it Justice
They literally killed Scooby, they had the dog’s skeleton literally buried underneath the ground in one episode which is a 100% disrespect to the character, also have you noticed Norville’s dad looks like the an older version of Shaggy?,
I actually don’t mind the twist of the General taking credit for S.C.O.O.B.I., it makes perfect sense for the 1970’s to have a white man take credit for a black woman’s work. Hell, it kinda makes sense still today. #MeToo was created in like 2008 by a Black woman, but white women like Rose McGowan got credit for it almost ten years later.
11:51 this part remind the guy screaming at Big Bang Theory. The "Why I Hate The Big Bang Theory" from Lyle McDouchebag. You replace Big Bang Theory with Velma and you have the exact same reaction.
It's funny you mention the hex girls because originally we were supposed to get another straight-to-video Scooby-Doo movie featuring The hex girls but thanks to David Zaslav taking over Warner Brothers he canceled it along with other Scooby-Doo projects the only one that managed to survive was Scooby-Doo and the mystery pups what's has a preschool show you still going to be aired on cartoon Network in 2024 but unfortunately it won't be available on HBO Max
I’ve never seen this show so I didn’t know about the brain swapping plot. That sounds familiar. Oh yeah. Get Out. That was the exact plot of Get Out. Must be a coincidence lol.
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To fix this, make it more of a mystery or horror focused show. Either episodic mysteries with and over-arching mystery or one season long mystery. Make all the gang interface with the mystery from different angles but later work together and build friendships (a key theme in Scooby doo). No need to make a big-mouth or family guy but with Scooby Doo. Make a Scooby Doo show with variations instead.
the way to start up a enemy vs enemy to become friends , first up start them as what they are , and then they become closer , and later on closer , and then one of those pair of friends says to change to the other one , and then they both find out they are closer than best friends , and then the date part done.
my version of Fred of this universe but in parallel dimension Fred having dinner with his parents and grandparents with an annoyed face Grampa Jones: so Frederick What was it like going to school with... (annoyed flight) those poor peasants Fred: Terrible Real shit (screaming) Making everyone gasping Fred grandma: fred What an inelegant word, I didn't expect something like this from a classy person in the Jones family Fred grampa: yeah you sure learn they frase from a poor Farmer so son Why don't you scold him While Alexia and I go play polo with the Brightons Fred dad: sure father, Fred how dare you say a farmer's word in our dear villa.. (Then the grandparents left and a butler nodded an Ok) what a hell are you thinking Fred saiying shit with my parents!? Fred: I'm sorry dad it's just that I had a bad day and then you know I hate the ignorant snobbish rich part Fred dad: we all hate playing this part, you know i dont wanna do polo, i wanna go play football like the rest of the dads Fred mom: And I would like to go to the flea market to buy something for the theater show But your grandparents are bigots so read him little bitch for just one more day and you'll be normal again Fred okay Mommy's teddy bear (said gently pinching his cheek like a child) Fred: (laughing a little red) ok mom but stop call me Teddy bear I'm a teenager now Fred mom: But you will always be your mommy's teddy bear Fred dad: (laughing) come on victoria, (then wrapping her right arm around her son) come on Fred my folks are gone so how about we do a dohow do we some gadgets that we do every friday? Fred: yeah let's go (Then they all go to the garage)
I never thought a more horrifying thing could exist in the entertainment field like really there's already a bunch of things you could list down as "Bad" movie or tv shows but Velma took the cake this year honestly.
A constant of the original Scoobi doo was that it was never a ghost. Ever. I feel they were trying to tap into that part of the history. (it's why the kids for the 70's were referred to as meddling kids)(I would have gotten away with too if not for you meddling kids, is a line from almost every original run scoobi-doo).
The surface level plot of Velma looking for her lost mother while hunting down a serial killer could’ve worked in another universe, with better writing and characterization.
You’re the first sincere critic I see of this, like yeah the show is trashy but now it just became a hate mob for the views Good points all around, I think even the weak fred’s mom plot twist could have been done better and this could have been a good(ish) show
There are certain routes you can take when you choose to make your main character a jerk: The Rick Sanchez, the Tony Stark or the Al Bundy. While I'm not really a Rick and Morty fan, I do get why some people like Rick. For all that he's a prick, Rick is highly capable and some people will find that watching do something cool is enough to make up for his personality. It's not really something I enjoy, but I get why someone would. The Tony Stark demands that you have an actor with *a lot* of charisma. Even at the beginning of Iron Man 1, most people find Tony pretty likable. He's a jerk and self-centered, certainly, but he's also the charisma to back up his narcissism. He's very good at dissolving tension, breaking the ice, and playing to an audience. While that's not gonna work on everyone, it does still work and make it hard not to smile when he's doing his thing. The Al Bundy is the closest to what Velma could have gone for, but never quite manages. Nobody is going to claim that Al is good person. His misogynistic, confrontational, rude, selfish and demeaning to pretty much everyone he meets. He does have his redeeming moments, while they frustrate and annoy him to no end he does care about his family, especially his kids, in his own messed up way. He will not hesitate to beat the snot out of someone for his daughter Kelly, and he does have some genuinely fun bonding moments with his son Bud. Even his relationship with his wife Peggy has it's moments. That being said, Al is an asshole. He spends his day insulting everyone that comes into his store and hatches hair-brained schemes on the regular. They key to why people can still enjoy Al as character, is that he's never rewarded for his behavior. At the end of most episodes, save for when the other guy is a bigger asshole, Al inevitably gets screwed over at the end of the episode. Usually as a direct result of his own actions or personality. He is repeatedly punished and humiliated at the end of every episode and the series makes it clear that it's *his* fault things turned out that way. Velma is rarely ever punished for her behavior, and the show frames her as if she's always right and the world is just against her. The problem is, she's not. Ever. She's a self-absorbed dipshit who deserves every ounce of misery that comes her way, and it's incredibly frustrating to see someone like that be rewarded or validated.
Honestly, you are right, it's why we all love characters like Walter White, Saul Goodman, or Bojack Horseman. We know those are bad people, but they all suffer consequences and get called out for their behavior, because they are written well! The same goes for Reagan Ridley from Inside Job. You can create an asshole character. But Velma, just kept excusing Velma's actions and would paint her as a hero in the end, even though she did nothing and didn't grow as a person.
You are so right that the ingredients of a decent show were RIGHT THERE and the producers squandered them. That’s what makes the fact that this is an utterly irredeemable train wreck all the more annoying. If they had put the writing in the hands of a skilled YA mystery writer who was equally adept at handling teen interactions and building suspense, you would have had something. Instead, Mindy Kailing has produced her version of My Immortal - a self-insert disaster set in an unrecognizable canon world where characters that bear only the slightest traces of the originals cater to the Sue’s every need.
The sad thing is there was a very easy way for the show to explain the absence of Scooby-Doo, one that would have given more weight to the mystery AND even lean into your suggested changes of focusing on "pressures" for the characters to improve the overall plot. What way is that, you ask? *Have it be a plot point that Scooby-Doo was abducted by the Killer.* Suddenly everyone's volatility is due to their individual pressures in life combined with their shared pressure about fearing for Scooby's Safety. It gives the writers an easy way to explain why these characters act so weird and alien, and its because they're all, in their own ways, worried for their beloved canine companion and are thusly lashing out at one another because they can't agree on how to proceed with searching for Scooby-Doo, while also giving the writers an easy way to avoid the obvious question of "why no scooby-doo in a scooby-doo show?".
My father was so hyped and happy that they make another installment of scobi, that was a massiv letdown... I never seen a veteran so mode down, even for a german guy
This show, far from perfect, is so much better than the trashy cheap shot critiques that thirsty UA-camrs are launching for hits. I enjoyed it and the animation is bomb.
the comedy in teen titans the original has better jokes the jokes aren't really the main part of the show the main part is action but wow they handled jokes better than velma or mindy
Counter point on the comedy: Too many jokes is subjective and heavily depends on the genre. In the case of Velma, which didn't seem to know what it wanted to be half the time, the jokes are intrusive and mean spirited. The strongest aspect is the plot, but these characters are treated as little more than a vehicle for Mindy's bad meta humor and lukewarm hotdog water takes. If this was supposed to be a parody of Scooby Doo, there's plenty of show specific quirks to poke fun at and deconstruct. A good example of parody was the Scooby Doo/Supernatural crossover episode. If this was supposed to be a mystery, the occasional joke can be a nice bit of levity but shouldn't demand the spotlight over the story you're trying to tell. Then there's dark comedy and morbid humor, which the show tries to do but not well. A good example of that would be the movie Fargo, where it's a very dark story revolving around one man having his wife get kidnapped to extort his father-in-law for money, which wracks up a body count. The movie is surprisingly funny, and how its goofy cast make their way through the story compliments the grim subject matter. Velma is like if someone tried to write that, but smothering it with a 14 y/o's take of South Park humor. The brand of humor Velma tries to have doesn't serve the narrative, it leans against the fourth wall at times with a painful jabbing elbow to the audience. If characters weren't constantly trying to hang a lampshade on everything and let the situation speak for itself, we'd be a lot closer to humor that could've worked. Maybe if it wasn't trying so hard to have its characters break character to make weird meta comments that don't actually make sense (a good 60% of Velma's dialogue, I'm betting), the cast could have had the breathing room it needed to develop.
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How I would fix Velma: 1. No meta humor 2. Make it feel like a Scooby-Doo show with mature themes 3. Have the characters be likable It's the best idea, but it's better than what we ended up getting.
20:57 I thought you said Paw Patrol instead of Pop Culture and didnt even blink, just went "oh guess I missed that one". That should not be my reaction to hearing that for any show and really says a lot.
Okay what if the general brain swapped with Fred’s mum and because the brain swap did work the dr got driven insane from seeing the monster she made. Would be a better story twist
Kidneys are far more expensive, if I remember well, it's something about 30 000 on the black market and 2000 something as a donor. Value of kidney is three times bigger anyways than the Black market price. Don't sell ur organs!
I’ve heard a lot of people shit on the art and animation but I genuinely think it’s much more visually appealing and interesting than most adult animation. Tbh I’d say the hallucination scenes are some of the nicest animation I’ve seen recently
I think Fred could have worked as a dumb, incompetent character. IF he would realize his mistakes and how no one likes or respects him. And troughout the series he would try to break out of that mold and become the loved Fred we know and love
It could have been good... if the writers, director and a LOT else had been better at their jobs. The animators and artists did great, everyone else needs to go Back to class.
I don't know why every Velma video opens with praise to the animators and designers. Design-wise, those are inferior versions to the original charcters in every way. It does not look good to me in any way. The characters look very flat and shallow. Animation-wise, the show is pretty standard as far as I can tell - great animation can be seen in things like Cowboy Bebop, Fleischer's Superman, Popeye, Classic Looney Tunes etc. This show has pretty okay animation, and yet, barely mediocre overall art.
Even though I have not watched Velma, it has MAJOR writing flaws in the show. this is worse than the Riverdale season 1 even though it does have some flaws, but this is just garbage. Velma needs to be cancelled ASAP.
Are you F@#!@$KING kidding me?! at 8:33 Scrappy , then again , he is not half as bad in the "Scooby and Scrappy doo" show as Velma is in this serie, he saved it, she ends it!
I must agree that Velma could of been a really good adult Scooby Doo but instead was just a hateful cash grab.
Yes! Tbh I honestly wish it could have surprised its audience by actually being good (but as we saw that wasn’t the case), also it could have been it’s own Scooby-Doo AU kind of thing, so that’s another disappointment DX
@@Baitelvideos37 I don't know why our beloved character would turn into a unlikable jerk. Curse you Velma!
I don't think it was ever a "Scooby Doo" show. I have a feeling they pitched a show but had to re-skin it as "insert beloved property" to get it aired.
@@christopherwilliams6902 Scooby himself being missing is an atrociously big clue.
@@Baitelvideos378:03
WHAT!!? SINCE WHEN!!?
YOU BEEN NOTHING BUT ABSOLUTE AWFUL TO HIM!
Please don’t call this a retelling of Scooby-Doo, it’s NOT A RETELLING. Also Cartoon Network’s Mystery Incorporated is an actual good adult Scooby-Doo show
It’s not a retelling it’s a massacre!
@@reviewman thank you
Alex I think legal she has to call it a retelling. But guess what buddy we all know it's bs
@@christopherwilliams6902 I know……but that doesn’t change how fucked up it is or how it’s ruining the Scooby-Doo name and it can’t even be factually called a Scooby-Doo show because it doesn’t have “-the dumb dog-“. Mindy Khayling’s line, not mine
@@SlimGod2662 best they dont include the lovable great dane, even Scrappy-Doo is a more likable character
Velma's writing is opposite to Amphibia. Likable flawed main character, protagonists are not jerks, toxic relationships get deconstructed and then flourish, manipulative villains get redeemed or put down, and finally, actually funny jokes!
Velma is the Anti-Anne.
Personally I would keep Fred's mom the villain but change the motive she believes that doctor Edna was screwed over by her father and wants to prove she was right by putting the brain of the so called "perfect girl" into a rebellious child you can even add to her backstory that it was actually her who helped the family business be the success it is today but her husband being the sexist jerk he is took all the credit. This show talks about sexism but never gives an example that a female audience member can relate too
Yes, I love that you point that out. This show loves to talk about sexism, racism, or any other issue but does absolutely nothing with it. Which sucks by the way, because you can do a lot with those issues in your show, it's the way they handle it is very poorly.
@RickyTicky’s Descent! thanks granted the one element of the original scooby doo that was weak was the mystery ironically but if you are going to reboot the show for an adult audience and pride yourself on being mature I expect a more well thought out mystery even if the main focus is comedy
@@alicianelson1252 Im more concerned about the underaged nudity and sexualization than the sexism. Women sexualize themselves....kids dont.
You know what sucks? What you said is right. This could be a solid adult themed Scooby Doo. This mystery conspiracy about all these girls being murdered could easily be adapted with just the regular Mystery crew. I would keep Scooby-Doo and have him talk and just make that normal because whatever? If we take Scooby as normal we can stretch that creative brain a bit. I would keep the gang not friends except maybe Shaggy and Freddy being friends when they were younger and slowly drifted apart. I'd keep Velma's missing Mom and that is what made her kinda standoffish and a person who is into gathering and deciphering clues. Fred is captain of many sports team which is why he is a great leader and strategist. I would have Daphne be one of the girls who gets caught which is a Easter egg to her being a bit of a damsel but swerve and have her save herself before the gang comes to demonstrate how resourceful she is. Shaggy accidentally gets involved and is reluctant to stick around but stays because he genuinely wants to help out. After awhile you see them all hang out not because of wanting to stop the murders but because they're becoming friends. Velma slowly opens up and the gang finds her Mom not alive but what happen to her. Now the Mystery is personal and Fred discovers that his family is somehow connected. Daphne finds out so is hers and Shaggy as well. This obviously causes tension and the gang split. But in the end all find separate parts to the whole mystery ( again a nod to the original and legitimate reason they split up) afterwards they catch the baddies and uncover the secrets for the murders. BOOM a somewhat grim Scooby-Doo could work if you put in the effort?
I readed your pitch and I like it. How does 50mil sound!
The brain swapping plot sounded like the perfect explanation for why Scooby can talk. Just have him have the brain of a kid+ partial amnesia
If you’ve seen that Velma meets the original Velma animation, that had a really good take on how it could have worked, and could have used that to show why the first episodes were really bad
@@thezapperyt Don't run Velma. I don't like to chase.
@@boianko that video was fire
Your brief course corrections for the show sound so much better than the show we got.
Poor Mindy Kahling... imagine how awful her life must have been for her to use her fame as a vehicle to express her internal misery, even as she has succeeded in a way young Mindy couldn't have even imagined. What a krunt.
Ironically, the biggest reason I got HBO max in the first place was because of their animation selection. I will never not be salty about Infinity Train.
I piggyback off of someone else, so I'm not in charge of the subscription, but if I were, I'd have rage canceled my subscription as soon as I heard about what they did to Infinity Train and other actually amazing cartoons.
As of now I don't log into the app anymore. Screw that platform, especially if they're going to be spewing out shit like this Velma instead of more Infinity Train.
I think it's a toss up between Fred & Norville for the best Mystery gang in this show.
Velma is firmly at the bottom.
Gigi is the 2nd best character.
The best character is the Sheriff, solely for hitting Velma with his patrol car.
Yeah I think Gigi was great tbh, but sadly she was there for like 2 episodes (if I remember correctly), and then she just disappeared :(. Also, yeah Fred and Norville were at least a little bearable, because they were always getting treated badly 💀
It says something when Norville and Fred have pages on the Heroes Wiki but Velma is firmly on the Villians
At some point, Hollywood started hiring terrible writers but the art talent has remained top notch. It stinks that we can't just have both talented writers and artists. There are so many sub-par forgettable stories getting pumped out where you can tell the artists worked just as hard as ever on.
"Be cool Scooby Doo" was what this show could have been, since they were going for humor. "Mystery Inc." was another way this show should have been, which did a good job at taking the idea more seriously. I enjoyed both of those versions of "Scooby Doo", but from what I've seen from those who have reviewed the series, this is one of the worst series ever brought to television.
FINALLY someone mentioned how predatory daphnie was.I was seriously worried about that
Definitely feel for the animators though all that hardwork and the writers did that to it.
I agree. Altho I wouldve made Scooby-Doo into a service dog for Norville. Like say he has anxiety or something and his parents got him Scooby to help him. that wouldve been a good way to add Scooby-Doo in without making him a talking dog.
Also I would make Norville and Fred have a slow burn romance type thing (I just really want Fred and shaggy to get together....) Like over time Norville loses his crush on Velma after hanging out with Fred a lot. That would've been cute.
Edit: also Norville could teach Fred to be a better person.
Norville adopted Scooby-Doo when he was 6/7 in A Pup Named Scooby-Doo
Also a good way to explain Scooby-Doo talking is just say Shaggy and the gang are high all the time. The monsters are just their hallucinations and when they “unmask” the “monsters”, it’s just them coming off their high. They’re from hippie times when EVERYONE was hitting the pipe so seeing the “monsters” was pretty damn normal
@@SlimGod2662 yes!
Honestly, even having Fred’s Mom as the killer could work, but they needed to build to that. I was just thinking of a way they could have made that so interesting with a concept of - “Fred’s Mom was wanting to put her brain into Fred, but needed to make sure the method worked and that she had good control over the person who was gonna do the switch. So then you could have done Dia Dinkley as “the villain” with the reveal that she was hypnotized to be the one doing the surgeries and claiming to be Edna Perdue.”
I’d also add in that it would have been more interesting to change the purpose of the General’s plan too - like perhaps it was meant as a way to get control over foreign companies and businesses that went against his organization or the Government. Which could lead into a bigger mystery - What is his “organization” or the Government planning that they needed to do a plan like this to handle any detractors?
Also a more interesting idea too would be that they actually kidnap boys and girls. They implant the girl’s brains into the boys, hypnotize them to keep quiet and be a bit more boyish while they think they are “liberating the girls” from their limitations, although it would be revealed they actually aren’t, just messing with their minds or something.
Basically the reason why they “killed” the girls and stole their brains was to test the method and made sure they got it right. Because Fred’s mom wouldn’t want to risk getting it wrong. They’d put the brain of her “failure of a son” (as she’d put it, but really she just wants to be immortal and had Fred in part to pull this plan off) in the body of some girl (maybe one they didn’t get rid of) so Fred wouldn’t need to have any responsibilities according to her. That or just would have intended to get rid of his brain.
As for hints to it, the hint of “Perdue’s lab in Fred’s basement” still works, but you could also maybe add more about the general and that he had a kid… someone who abandoned him when the General was shamed and lost his position of power. It’d later be revealed that was his daughter, narrowing the pool more of who it could be. You can also add in that Fred’s mother has a negative reaction to even hearing about her father, who she refuses to acknowledge any connection to and sees him as a failure that couldn’t keep the power that he had. Probably believing that it was merely because “he was a man” that he got the position of power he had, and his failure was because managed to be stupid enough to not hold onto his power. But her schemes will work and she’ll use the “power men have right”.
All of the characters would have to be heavily rewritten.
I don’t want to repeat my bias thought, but episode 3 TOTALLY broke my patience for me! Because, I’ve expected Daphne and Velma to just STICK with the pummels and near-death physical blows to the body and face, instead of “subverting our expectations” with a lame show-don’t-tell exposure moment, which I find very inappropriate, which ends with a pussy kick! Just, why?
One of the more thought out reviews on this platform. It is much appreciated and I like your avatar. I had a lot of the same analysis points you had that a lot of people seem to miss for some reason and I thought I was going crazy.
I’ve been reading some fanfics to see if anyone can improve the writing. It seems that having Norville as the lead and having Velma as a side character makes it more tolerable. And some of them focus on the therapy aspect of Norvilles character they bring up in ep 3. It’s an interesting excuse to bring the other two together in in the gang since they definitely all need counseling.
I’m trying to write a scene right now where Fred is trying to cope with his mom being gone by searching for Dr. Purdues ghost in Velma’s house. And Velma at first tries to stop him then starts playing along after she starts empathizing with their shared fear of their mothers not loving them. The problem is it’s hard to write Velma not too out of character from the show because it feels miserable to write a completely awful person.
The Scoobi project ghosts coming back to haunt them would be a cool idea, (although I’m not sure how you defeat ghosts.) And it isn’t completely taken out of the question given the season cliffhanger.
Holy moly good luck with that scene! Also, thanks for telling about the fanfics, I might read those, cause tbh, I actually wanted Velma to surprise audiences. Hopefully those fanfics do it Justice
Also making Norville the main character sounds so much better, that would have been cool to see!
They literally killed Scooby, they had the dog’s skeleton literally buried underneath the ground in one episode which is a 100% disrespect to the character, also have you noticed Norville’s dad looks like the an older version of Shaggy?,
Yes 💀
I actually don’t mind the twist of the General taking credit for S.C.O.O.B.I., it makes perfect sense for the 1970’s to have a white man take credit for a black woman’s work. Hell, it kinda makes sense still today. #MeToo was created in like 2008 by a Black woman, but white women like Rose McGowan got credit for it almost ten years later.
11:51 this part remind the guy screaming at Big Bang Theory. The "Why I Hate The Big Bang Theory" from Lyle McDouchebag.
You replace Big Bang Theory with Velma and you have the exact same reaction.
the ONLY thing I liked in terms of referencing Scooby Doo, Daphne has a Hex Girls poster. ONLY thing I liked in terms of Scooby Doo references
It's funny you mention the hex girls because originally we were supposed to get another straight-to-video Scooby-Doo movie featuring The hex girls but thanks to David Zaslav taking over Warner Brothers he canceled it along with other Scooby-Doo projects the only one that managed to survive was Scooby-Doo and the mystery pups what's has a preschool show you still going to be aired on cartoon Network in 2024 but unfortunately it won't be available on HBO Max
I’ve never seen this show so I didn’t know about the brain swapping plot. That sounds familiar. Oh yeah. Get Out. That was the exact plot of Get Out. Must be a coincidence lol.
HOLY MOLY YOUR RIGHT! It's just with Get Out, it was actually terrifying-
Don't forget the way the shows seem to insult adult fans for watching and using phrases from original show as names for illegal drugs
I agree, I hate that the show’s animators wasted all that time and effort on this terrible plot and cringe characters
i like this style of video and animation, you give me iilluminaughtii vibes but instead of corporate reviews tv show reviews, i'm looking forward for your future videos
To fix this, make it more of a mystery or horror focused show. Either episodic mysteries with and over-arching mystery or one season long mystery.
Make all the gang interface with the mystery from different angles but later work together and build friendships (a key theme in Scooby doo).
No need to make a big-mouth or family guy but with Scooby Doo. Make a Scooby Doo show with variations instead.
the way to start up a enemy vs enemy to become friends , first up start them as what they are , and then they become closer , and later on closer , and then one of those pair of friends says to change to the other one , and then they both find out they are closer than best friends , and then the date part done.
my version of Fred of this universe but in parallel dimension
Fred having dinner with his parents and grandparents with an annoyed face
Grampa Jones: so Frederick What was it like going to school with... (annoyed flight) those poor peasants
Fred: Terrible Real shit (screaming)
Making everyone gasping
Fred grandma: fred What an inelegant word, I didn't expect something like this from a classy person in the Jones family
Fred grampa: yeah you sure learn they frase from a poor Farmer so son Why don't you scold him While Alexia and I go play polo with the Brightons
Fred dad: sure father, Fred how dare you say a farmer's word in our dear villa.. (Then the grandparents left and a butler nodded an Ok) what a hell are you thinking Fred saiying shit with my parents!?
Fred: I'm sorry dad it's just that I had a bad day and then you know I hate the ignorant snobbish rich part
Fred dad: we all hate playing this part, you know i dont wanna do polo, i wanna go play football like the rest of the dads
Fred mom: And I would like to go to the flea market to buy something for the theater show But your grandparents are bigots so read him little bitch for just one more day and you'll be normal again Fred okay Mommy's teddy bear (said gently pinching his cheek like a child)
Fred: (laughing a little red) ok mom but stop call me Teddy bear I'm a teenager now
Fred mom: But you will always be your mommy's teddy bear
Fred dad: (laughing) come on victoria, (then wrapping her right arm around her son) come on Fred my folks are gone so how about we do a dohow do we some gadgets that we do every friday?
Fred: yeah let's go (Then they all go to the garage)
I never thought a more horrifying thing could exist in the entertainment field like really there's already a bunch of things you could list down as "Bad" movie or tv shows but Velma took the cake this year honestly.
You know its bad if the fans could write a better story than this, and its a shame because Velma was my favourite character in the franchise..
A constant of the original Scoobi doo was that it was never a ghost. Ever. I feel they were trying to tap into that part of the history. (it's why the kids for the 70's were referred to as meddling kids)(I would have gotten away with too if not for you meddling kids, is a line from almost every original run scoobi-doo).
The surface level plot of Velma looking for her lost mother while hunting down a serial killer could’ve worked in another universe, with better writing and characterization.
pretty much why Velma is a Disgrace to Scooby-Doo
Velma didn’t have wasted potential it had no potential at all
I respectfully disagree with you. It could’ve been it’s own Scooby-Doo adult show, but instead it decided to be bad and cringe
You’re the first sincere critic I see of this, like yeah the show is trashy but now it just became a hate mob for the views
Good points all around, I think even the weak fred’s mom plot twist could have been done better and this could have been a good(ish) show
This should could’ve been a dark supernatural thriller with juicy mysteries but no instead we got a family guy spinoff
Start with characters that I care for... And then everything else will fall into place.
There are certain routes you can take when you choose to make your main character a jerk: The Rick Sanchez, the Tony Stark or the Al Bundy. While I'm not really a Rick and Morty fan, I do get why some people like Rick. For all that he's a prick, Rick is highly capable and some people will find that watching do something cool is enough to make up for his personality. It's not really something I enjoy, but I get why someone would. The Tony Stark demands that you have an actor with *a lot* of charisma. Even at the beginning of Iron Man 1, most people find Tony pretty likable. He's a jerk and self-centered, certainly, but he's also the charisma to back up his narcissism. He's very good at dissolving tension, breaking the ice, and playing to an audience. While that's not gonna work on everyone, it does still work and make it hard not to smile when he's doing his thing. The Al Bundy is the closest to what Velma could have gone for, but never quite manages. Nobody is going to claim that Al is good person. His misogynistic, confrontational, rude, selfish and demeaning to pretty much everyone he meets. He does have his redeeming moments, while they frustrate and annoy him to no end he does care about his family, especially his kids, in his own messed up way. He will not hesitate to beat the snot out of someone for his daughter Kelly, and he does have some genuinely fun bonding moments with his son Bud. Even his relationship with his wife Peggy has it's moments. That being said, Al is an asshole. He spends his day insulting everyone that comes into his store and hatches hair-brained schemes on the regular. They key to why people can still enjoy Al as character, is that he's never rewarded for his behavior. At the end of most episodes, save for when the other guy is a bigger asshole, Al inevitably gets screwed over at the end of the episode. Usually as a direct result of his own actions or personality. He is repeatedly punished and humiliated at the end of every episode and the series makes it clear that it's *his* fault things turned out that way. Velma is rarely ever punished for her behavior, and the show frames her as if she's always right and the world is just against her. The problem is, she's not. Ever. She's a self-absorbed dipshit who deserves every ounce of misery that comes her way, and it's incredibly frustrating to see someone like that be rewarded or validated.
Honestly, you are right, it's why we all love characters like Walter White, Saul Goodman, or Bojack Horseman. We know those are bad people, but they all suffer consequences and get called out for their behavior, because they are written well! The same goes for Reagan Ridley from Inside Job. You can create an asshole character. But Velma, just kept excusing Velma's actions and would paint her as a hero in the end, even though she did nothing and didn't grow as a person.
You are so right that the ingredients of a decent show were RIGHT THERE and the producers squandered them. That’s what makes the fact that this is an utterly irredeemable train wreck all the more annoying. If they had put the writing in the hands of a skilled YA mystery writer who was equally adept at handling teen interactions and building suspense, you would have had something. Instead, Mindy Kailing has produced her version of My Immortal - a self-insert disaster set in an unrecognizable canon world where characters that bear only the slightest traces of the originals cater to the Sue’s every need.
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5.9k views....yet 119 subs? That's a much bigger mystery than the entire velma series!
I agree, Velma looks VERY Cringe and underrated
The sad thing is there was a very easy way for the show to explain the absence of Scooby-Doo, one that would have given more weight to the mystery AND even lean into your suggested changes of focusing on "pressures" for the characters to improve the overall plot.
What way is that, you ask? *Have it be a plot point that Scooby-Doo was abducted by the Killer.* Suddenly everyone's volatility is due to their individual pressures in life combined with their shared pressure about fearing for Scooby's Safety. It gives the writers an easy way to explain why these characters act so weird and alien, and its because they're all, in their own ways, worried for their beloved canine companion and are thusly lashing out at one another because they can't agree on how to proceed with searching for Scooby-Doo, while also giving the writers an easy way to avoid the obvious question of "why no scooby-doo in a scooby-doo show?".
My father was so hyped and happy that they make another installment of scobi, that was a massiv letdown...
I never seen a veteran so mode down, even for a german guy
I GUESSED THAT JACK WARNER (WARNER BROTHERS) IS TURNING IN HIS GRAVE, TOO! 🤔
This show, far from perfect, is so much better than the trashy cheap shot critiques that thirsty UA-camrs are launching for hits. I enjoyed it and the animation is bomb.
Yeah I agree with this, it’s bad, but come on, I have seen worse 💀
the comedy in teen titans the original has better jokes the jokes aren't really the main part of the show the main part is action but wow they handled jokes better than velma or mindy
Counter point on the comedy: Too many jokes is subjective and heavily depends on the genre. In the case of Velma, which didn't seem to know what it wanted to be half the time, the jokes are intrusive and mean spirited. The strongest aspect is the plot, but these characters are treated as little more than a vehicle for Mindy's bad meta humor and lukewarm hotdog water takes. If this was supposed to be a parody of Scooby Doo, there's plenty of show specific quirks to poke fun at and deconstruct. A good example of parody was the Scooby Doo/Supernatural crossover episode. If this was supposed to be a mystery, the occasional joke can be a nice bit of levity but shouldn't demand the spotlight over the story you're trying to tell. Then there's dark comedy and morbid humor, which the show tries to do but not well. A good example of that would be the movie Fargo, where it's a very dark story revolving around one man having his wife get kidnapped to extort his father-in-law for money, which wracks up a body count. The movie is surprisingly funny, and how its goofy cast make their way through the story compliments the grim subject matter. Velma is like if someone tried to write that, but smothering it with a 14 y/o's take of South Park humor.
The brand of humor Velma tries to have doesn't serve the narrative, it leans against the fourth wall at times with a painful jabbing elbow to the audience. If characters weren't constantly trying to hang a lampshade on everything and let the situation speak for itself, we'd be a lot closer to humor that could've worked. Maybe if it wasn't trying so hard to have its characters break character to make weird meta comments that don't actually make sense (a good 60% of Velma's dialogue, I'm betting), the cast could have had the breathing room it needed to develop.
Wow.Ricky...When I catch you Ricky...When I catch you Ricky..When I catch you....When I catch you imma...When I catch you Ricky..
Fantastic discussion and I love your use of the Undertale and Deltarune music 🥰
Im happy that you said that a quadrangle is just a SQUARE
9:11 apparently Mindy Kaling and Charlie Grandy did
Oh my God, you deserve more subs! This is high tier content!
0:04 after Fred saying that, I wanted to face palm cuz wth 🤦🏾♂️
Right?! Like that has potential to be a good joke but why sickle cell? That didn't even make sense.
Mystery Inc. did literally everything better than this show.
Highly recommended for those who didn't watch.
The biggest wasted potential is they didn’t recreate the Fred’s catchphrase meme
Mindy's murder mystery is such a waste. If only it wasn't a Rick and Morty meta humor spin off of hate.
24:40 Ok, this whole sequence was really funny.
And I thought my channel was underrated, fantastic review perhaps I should try out this content. I love your editing, love your video structure and your use of words.
How I would fix Velma:
1. No meta humor
2. Make it feel like a Scooby-Doo show with mature themes
3. Have the characters be likable
It's the best idea, but it's better than what we ended up getting.
Honestly just take out Mindy Kayling and changed the show from a “Scooby-Doo” reboot OR JUST FUCKING ADD SCOOBY-DOO IN A SCOOBY-DOO SHOW!!!
It's even worse than "Be Cool, Scooby-Doo!"
20:57 I thought you said Paw Patrol instead of Pop Culture and didnt even blink, just went "oh guess I missed that one". That should not be my reaction to hearing that for any show and really says a lot.
You are very thoughtful and I hope you continue to produce content! Very well done!!!
10:00 It’s like they took the drugs they were selling or something.
the show didn't have ANY potential
Okay what if the general brain swapped with Fred’s mum and because the brain swap did work the dr got driven insane from seeing the monster she made. Would be a better story twist
And let's not forget daphne stab a girl with a pen.
Kidneys are far more expensive, if I remember well, it's something about 30 000 on the black market and 2000 something as a donor. Value of kidney is three times bigger anyways than the Black market price. Don't sell ur organs!
lacross stick or field hockey stick not a crowbar, but that doesn't counter your point at all.
OH MY GOD THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT 💀💀💀
Can you review Adventure Time: Fionna and Cake when it comes out? It looks good and it may be the anti-velma
I forgot to tell you, you have to watch the entirety of Adventure Time and Distant Lands to get the full context.
Its the animators i feel sorry for the most, the show looks gorgeous!
To be fair, it never had potential to begin with it, so nothing was wasted.
So Velma twerked over The killers dead body
What is the outro music?
the song is called Friendship. It’s from the Deltarune OST
I’ve heard a lot of people shit on the art and animation but I genuinely think it’s much more visually appealing and interesting than most adult animation. Tbh I’d say the hallucination scenes are some of the nicest animation I’ve seen recently
On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate this show based on the following (0/10 doesn't count)?
1. Story
2. Animation
3. Characters
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I think it would be easy fix to start from scratch and have a completely different writer, director, producer, and voice actor than Mindy.
I WILL BET THAT HANNA-BARBERA (WILLIAM HANNA AND JOSEPH BARBERA) ARE TURNING IN THEIR GRAVES, RIGHT NOW! 😔
I think Fred could have worked as a dumb, incompetent character. IF he would realize his mistakes and how no one likes or respects him. And troughout the series he would try to break out of that mold and become the loved Fred we know and love
Minus the 34 dick jokes......
It could have been good... if the writers, director and a LOT else had been better at their jobs. The animators and artists did great, everyone else needs to go Back to class.
I've heard this exact script........WHAT THE F
I like the show I like the adult version of Scooby Doo. I’m into it.
Can u do a review on helluva boss? I'd love to hear ur thoughts (if you've seen or heard of it)
Maybe one day, there are a lot of different aspects of that show that I would love to talk about so maybe someday-
I don't know why every Velma video opens with praise to the animators and designers. Design-wise, those are inferior versions to the original charcters in every way. It does not look good to me in any way. The characters look very flat and shallow. Animation-wise, the show is pretty standard as far as I can tell - great animation can be seen in things like Cowboy Bebop, Fleischer's Superman, Popeye, Classic Looney Tunes etc. This show has pretty okay animation, and yet, barely mediocre overall art.
Ngl this show is so bad sometimes forget it's based off Scooby Doo 🤦
One word: why!!!??????
Even though I have not watched Velma, it has MAJOR writing flaws in the show. this is worse than the Riverdale season 1 even though it does have some flaws, but this is just garbage. Velma needs to be cancelled ASAP.
vriing Velma vs chad moon girl and devil dinosaur
Mindy Kaling's cool. 😕
The only way "Velma" could've been better is if it just didn't exist at all.
This show had ZERO potential, from its very concept even if the writing was passable it would very much be bottom tier.
You're going to watch season two, just like every reviewer on UA-cam. I've see this happen before with the Netflix he man series.
Amazing points. Subscribed
wait a minute.... I've heard this before....
Are you F@#!@$KING kidding me?! at 8:33 Scrappy , then again , he is not half as bad in the "Scooby and Scrappy doo" show as Velma is in this serie, he saved it, she ends it!
fred's best character based fred
this channel is rly underrated
Subscribed they literally made this show a joke they need to do better