I like both of these techniques - and even though Metallics are often considered a "beginner"-technique, it can be just as complicated as NMM. I like both for their different application possilibilites, always have a big arsenal for each situation! Which one do you like better?
I like the analysis and comparison between the styles. The side-by-side approach helps focus on the technique and results, rather than the figures and the specific minute details. I think there's potential for a series of side-by-side discussions/explorations of colour palettes, OSL, sketch-style, oil/acrylic washes... You could call it 'Dual Wielding' :-)
I watched this video to try learn to do NMM but instead learned how to make my TMM look less like garbage. Thanks for the video. It was super helpful for a beginner like me.
One of the best videos on both TMM and NMM! Great work. Especially the sentence: "NMM is about creating light/dark contrast while TMM is more about creating shiny/non-shiny contrast" clicked for me. Thanks a lot and cheers from Salzburg.
NMM Looks so easy when you watch it, just a couple thin layers getting smaller, brightened up in the middle...somehow mine looks like a sword made of zebra skin..Thanks for the great tutorial, I like the show of varied brush techniques.
Something I appreciate is your approach to discuss how it's just art. There's no "best." Only results. Showing multiple styles will help people find what works best for their tastes.
I have watched a lot of content in the past 2.5 years on miniature painting - I'm serious about it. I want to be great. So I have to be fairly critical internally about the utility of any content I watch as it applies to my goals and I'm good at it. I'm discerning. I know what I'm looking at. This is an exemplary video. It really is and it runs a wide gamut in the ways that it is of the very highest utility. It is in the most exclusive grouping and it is among the leaders of that group. It's basically essential in my book. A tip of my cap to you. Thanks man.
Watching this, I learned how little I use texture in my painting. Everything is smooth and edge highlighted smooth. Bonus points to you for getting two lessons in one!
I know it wasn't the subject of this video, but let me just point out how beautiful your fallen pillars are! They actually look like polished stone, rather than 'grey wash, brown wash, drybrush' pillars! Gorgeous!
I really appreciate this tutorial where we can see the two styles side by side as you paint each “style”….great help in giving us the pros and cons of each approach, and as always two great figures!
The TMM is good, but just looking at the NMM figure brings me actual real life joy. It's so gorgeous. I freakin' love this hobby. Thanks for the great content Trovarion!
@@EcopiuM I really appreciate and respect the skill, the mastery of the technique, but it does nothing for me aesthetically 4 out of 5 times. Even a passably good TMM on the other hand is already cool. But that is of course my subjective view.
@@docremington1589 Yes I agree with you. NMM is currently the "in" thing to do but knowing WHEN to use it is the important thing. Most people just slap it wherever once they learn how to do it. Which is fine if they personally like it but yeah.
I agree, NMM looks better in photos but when you look at the models in real life 3D TMM looks much better, sometimes NMM just looks strange as it doesn’t trick your eyes the same way it does in 2d photos
I fell off the painting train a long while back, and randomly re-discovering you here fills me with bucket loads of nostalgia. I remember really enjoying your Dirz back in the day, and it's only gotten more incredible! I've just gone back to cmon for the first time in years just to have a look at your miniatures again... Not gonna lie, I'm tearing up at some of the memories it's bringing me back. Thank you so SO much for sharing your work!! Fun detail: according to two former R. painters, the actual reason Rackham started doing NMM is that it was easier to touch up the pictures of painted models than TMM. Not that it takes anything away from these artists, their work was stunning in person as well
I am so sad it took me a year to find this video. I have been working so hard on applying NMM techniques to True Metallic paint for almost 6 months now. I greatly prefer your method of starting with the bright metallic and shading down with non metallic. I have been trying to do it the other way. After watching this I switched and the results have been instantly better!! Great video thank you so much!! I subscribed instantly, as I don’t want to miss another thing from you.
I think where NMM really shines is in display pieces designed to be viewed from a specific angle. Here it can look amazing, double so when you understand the time and skill involved in doing it well. For minis designed to be viewed from multiple angles, e.g. tabletop minis, NMM can look odd since at certain angles the reflections won't make sense. You can round this somewhat using the four light sources technique that Darren Latham describes in his NMM article, but it's not perfect. TMM on the other hand won't produce as striking results (in my opinion at least), but the reflections obviously change depending on the viewing angle so it'll look decent regardless of angle.
I agree with the fact that NMM is more fun to paint and it is so rewarding when you manage to pull it off. But especially on Warhammer minis I sometimes prefer the TMM because I like a grittier look. It creates a diffrent atmosphere and tells a diffrent story.
Really depends. I am a below average painter. The moment I pick up metallics, my results look infinitely better. I would never try NMM because I lack the skill and patience to achieve that. So especially for beginners, metallics make painting a lot easier.
Thank you for this informative video, and thank you also for posting such a comprehensive list of your gear and equipment in the description. I tremendously appreciate that as well.
I love how watching this video makes the process of NMM seem so achievable (to someone with little painting skills), when really it’s just your amazing talent shining through. Awesome video man thank you!
This is one of the video's I have been looking for! I like to paint TMM and love to see how a very good painter uses them. I realize I might be avoiding learning NMM, but looking at the results you got I like the TMM better. So will try to get better at that first. Also for army painting it makes more sense to use the faster method.
They both look amazing in their own way! It's really helpful to see a side-by-side of the same mini with the different styles to really drive home the potential applications for each method.
This videos has shown me as a beginner so many ways to just spice up my true metal painting. The effects washes and shading on metal can achieve is amazing. So much to learn still. Thanks for these amazing videos.
Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you so much. Whilst NMM is shinier that almost gives the skellies a creepier look, with the big contrast between light and dark it looks like they shining reflecting moonlight. Love it.
I got a lot out of the final comparison, I hadn't even considered the non metallic vs metallic as being anymore than a personal preference but that has changed now. I'm a photographer by trade and now I can see how my lighting skills can influence my minis. Many thanks!
So detailed, useful and interesting guide! Watched it at a single breath. It is one of those when you don't want miss a thing. It gives understanding of techniques not from visual side but from within of the process! Thank you a lot for such a great video!
Really enjoyed this video. Great to see an objective look at two techniques that aim to do the same thing side by side. I loved hearing your thoughts on the pros and cons of both rather than being super heavily focused on one and why it is 'better'. Looking forward to seeing more content from you in the coming months
A 1:1 comparison of TMM vs. NMM on the same miniature is a good Idea to show differences. Great work. I like the armour and cloak of the NMM model and on the TMM model the shield. :)
this is such a great video showing the results of both and a great guide on trying to get the best out of both techniques. just starting to try and get better at NMM. thank you
Mad respect and love for using recast in your bases on this and the Void Dragon. I suppose that showing how to recast sculpts to enhance your bases is why GW doesn't send you stuff anymore. Way to have huge balls and just do it anyway. TUTORIAL BRAVELY
Great video I love seeing the two approaches side by side. I really enjoyed the history and overlay images that demonstrated what you where discussing in the intro. The length of the instructions was spot on and I’d love to see more.
Thanks for the in-depth tutorial on how to properly use metallics! I'm not really interested in doing NMM but the methods you described will really make up my game with metals.
Never seen such a direct comparison of both techniques. Great video mate. To my eyes, great TMM has always looked better than great NMM and this video reinforced this notion. Needless to say you are a master at both!
To me, the winner comes down to the static nature of the NMM. I love picking up a model and having the reflections change as I rotate the figure around. I like changing the lighting and watching it change the figurine. So I prefer more real world metallic techniques.
I stumbled across this video by accident, but the non-metallic metal painting here was amazing! I found myself liking the NMM version much more in your work.
I like when you pointed out how non metallic glazing adds contrast to the scheme. This is a relief for me because I'm trying to paint a Caladius Annihilator and glazing down the gold has proven to be an ordeal with metallics so I'm glad to hear that using standard colors is a viable alternative.
Loved this one! Both models look so good and you showed the process very well. I can see using the TMM method for batch painting armies. Really learned a lot. Thank you sir.
Love this video as it is more of a class. From the last video I though we would get a class on color theory, it seems that every video is it's own class. Thank you for all you do. I am excited for the next one.
This shows that even if you have the technical ability to paint the NMM style you still need to know where to place the reflections and what colours will sell it. Also shows that TMM can be taken to a much higher level than I have ever attempted. Thanks
I like both of these techniques - and even though Metallics are often considered a "beginner"-technique, it can be just as complicated as NMM. I like both for their different application possilibilites, always have a big arsenal for each situation! Which one do you like better?
Algorithm please bless this man and his great content.
yes... just a useless comment to please the strange gods of algorithm
Amen
I'll add one here as well. I'm learning so so much from his videos!
ill quad that!
I like the analysis and comparison between the styles. The side-by-side approach helps focus on the technique and results, rather than the figures and the specific minute details. I think there's potential for a series of side-by-side discussions/explorations of colour palettes, OSL, sketch-style, oil/acrylic washes... You could call it 'Dual Wielding' :-)
Subbed.
I prefer the TMM model. Starting with steel and washing and glazing to make bronze opened a whole new conceptual landscape for me.
I watched this video to try learn to do NMM but instead learned how to make my TMM look less like garbage. Thanks for the video. It was super helpful for a beginner like me.
The hidden gems on these vídeos are what i come for. For example those shields and cloals look absolutely awesome. Thank you
One of the best videos on both TMM and NMM! Great work. Especially the sentence: "NMM is about creating light/dark contrast while TMM is more about creating shiny/non-shiny contrast" clicked for me. Thanks a lot and cheers from Salzburg.
NMM Looks so easy when you watch it, just a couple thin layers getting smaller, brightened up in the middle...somehow mine looks like a sword made of zebra skin..Thanks for the great tutorial, I like the show of varied brush techniques.
Something I appreciate is your approach to discuss how it's just art. There's no "best." Only results. Showing multiple styles will help people find what works best for their tastes.
I really like the in-depth explanation of how you use the colors!
I have watched a lot of content in the past 2.5 years on miniature painting - I'm serious about it. I want to be great. So I have to be fairly critical internally about the utility of any content I watch as it applies to my goals and I'm good at it. I'm discerning. I know what I'm looking at.
This is an exemplary video. It really is and it runs a wide gamut in the ways that it is of the very highest utility. It is in the most exclusive grouping and it is among the leaders of that group. It's basically essential in my book.
A tip of my cap to you. Thanks man.
The direct comparison in one video is a great take! Go on like this good man!
Watching this, I learned how little I use texture in my painting. Everything is smooth and edge highlighted smooth. Bonus points to you for getting two lessons in one!
Great and super helpful video!!
As always! I like the new format and editing
Maximum effort camera work, love the multi shot brushwork sections of this video
Such a deep level of understanding put into a palatable way for learners of all levels.
This really makes me look differently at TMM paints, thanks again!😸
omfg, new video already, glad to see you again
I know it wasn't the subject of this video, but let me just point out how beautiful your fallen pillars are! They actually look like polished stone, rather than 'grey wash, brown wash, drybrush' pillars! Gorgeous!
Uncle Trov! Loving the new format and really happy you go full in into it! This kind of comparisons are marvelous! Thank you so much!
I really appreciate this tutorial where we can see the two styles side by side as you paint each “style”….great help in giving us the pros and cons of each approach, and as always two great figures!
The TMM is good, but just looking at the NMM figure brings me actual real life joy. It's so gorgeous. I freakin' love this hobby. Thanks for the great content Trovarion!
From mini to mini I get to see, I realise that I’m not a fan of NMM at all. Beautiful minis both, but TMM is my favourite.
NMM can be great but I don't think this exact mini/theme is the one to show it off.
@@EcopiuM I really appreciate and respect the skill, the mastery of the technique, but it does nothing for me aesthetically 4 out of 5 times. Even a passably good TMM on the other hand is already cool. But that is of course my subjective view.
I agree, I think NMM is overhyped. It looks great from the one angle, sure, but from multiple angles, I find that TMM looks better.
@@docremington1589 Yes I agree with you. NMM is currently the "in" thing to do but knowing WHEN to use it is the important thing. Most people just slap it wherever once they learn how to do it. Which is fine if they personally like it but yeah.
I agree, NMM looks better in photos but when you look at the models in real life 3D TMM looks much better, sometimes NMM just looks strange as it doesn’t trick your eyes the same way it does in 2d photos
I'm hugely impressed by the skill involved in painting NMM's, but actual metallic paints look better.
Just love your videos Mr Trovarian. Easy to understand, and the depth of knowledge is so appreciated. Thankyou.
Hey Algorithm, this video is great and you should promote it!
thanks bro for the tutorial. i got the point. hope you success forever
Even though the goal of the video is to compare NMM and TMM I found it to be a very clear and quick tutorial for each, love it!
sure, it was meant as both of that :) comparison and quick tutorial.
Nice comparison. I am also glad for your approach to give both techniques their place in miniature painting
I like this format a lot. Nice job!
I fell off the painting train a long while back, and randomly re-discovering you here fills me with bucket loads of nostalgia. I remember really enjoying your Dirz back in the day, and it's only gotten more incredible! I've just gone back to cmon for the first time in years just to have a look at your miniatures again... Not gonna lie, I'm tearing up at some of the memories it's bringing me back. Thank you so SO much for sharing your work!!
Fun detail: according to two former R. painters, the actual reason Rackham started doing NMM is that it was easier to touch up the pictures of painted models than TMM. Not that it takes anything away from these artists, their work was stunning in person as well
Original video! awesome skills as always! I saw your last vod,and hit that Bell, gonna help as much as i can!
I am so sad it took me a year to find this video. I have been working so hard on applying NMM techniques to True Metallic paint for almost 6 months now. I greatly prefer your method of starting with the bright metallic and shading down with non metallic. I have been trying to do it the other way. After watching this I switched and the results have been instantly better!! Great video thank you so much!! I subscribed instantly, as I don’t want to miss another thing from you.
NMM definitely looks more deliberate, but I still prefer the overall look of TMM. Great video!
I think where NMM really shines is in display pieces designed to be viewed from a specific angle. Here it can look amazing, double so when you understand the time and skill involved in doing it well.
For minis designed to be viewed from multiple angles, e.g. tabletop minis, NMM can look odd since at certain angles the reflections won't make sense. You can round this somewhat using the four light sources technique that Darren Latham describes in his NMM article, but it's not perfect.
TMM on the other hand won't produce as striking results (in my opinion at least), but the reflections obviously change depending on the viewing angle so it'll look decent regardless of angle.
Let's comment, the world need to see this! Awesome content man.
I agree with the fact that NMM is more fun to paint and it is so rewarding when you manage to pull it off. But especially on Warhammer minis I sometimes prefer the TMM because I like a grittier look. It creates a diffrent atmosphere and tells a diffrent story.
Agree
Really depends. I am a below average painter. The moment I pick up metallics, my results look infinitely better. I would never try NMM because I lack the skill and patience to achieve that. So especially for beginners, metallics make painting a lot easier.
Thats a really fun idea. Its great to see the two techniques side by side.
Fantastic start to your new career! 👏 I enjoyed your analysis and can't wait to see what else you have in store for us!
Thank you for this informative video, and thank you also for posting such a comprehensive list of your gear and equipment in the description. I tremendously appreciate that as well.
I love how watching this video makes the process of NMM seem so achievable (to someone with little painting skills), when really it’s just your amazing talent shining through. Awesome video man thank you!
This is one of the video's I have been looking for! I like to paint TMM and love to see how a very good painter uses them. I realize I might be avoiding learning NMM, but looking at the results you got I like the TMM better. So will try to get better at that first. Also for army painting it makes more sense to use the faster method.
They both look amazing in their own way! It's really helpful to see a side-by-side of the same mini with the different styles to really drive home the potential applications for each method.
Good luck with the new endeavour 🍀🤞🍀🤞🍀
This videos has shown me as a beginner so many ways to just spice up my true metal painting. The effects washes and shading on metal can achieve is amazing. So much to learn still.
Thanks for these amazing videos.
Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
You are my favorite miniature painting UA-camr. Great video yet again
Great video m8! Lots of awesome tips on painting NMM and TMM. I'll definitely be trying some of these on my figures. Cheers!
Ow and NMM is totally it for me,between these two,but both are awesome!
Great video!! Gave a really interesting inside and I will most definitely reevaluate my metals.
Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you so much. Whilst NMM is shinier that almost gives the skellies a creepier look, with the big contrast between light and dark it looks like they shining reflecting moonlight. Love it.
Absolutely crushed it with this one. Great work and thanks for sharing.
Great video :) Looking forward to more videos :)
Both incredible results. Love your techniques. Thanks for sharing.
Im excited to see more videos and to learn more about your process and creative vision when you paint
I got a lot out of the final comparison, I hadn't even considered the non metallic vs metallic as being anymore than a personal preference but that has changed now. I'm a photographer by trade and now I can see how my lighting skills can influence my minis. Many thanks!
Finally, an example that explains both effects so simply, thanks Trovarian
I’d like to see how you painted the bone.
Wow watching how effortless you paint nmm is amazing, great video as always
Blessed be the creator of this goodness
I was impressed how you just put yellow and brown washes over silver metallic, instead of using straight gold. I never thought of this before. Cheers!
Thank you for the great comparison. I'm blown away particularly by the TMM version. Looks fantastic!
Cool TMM glazing method. Love the demonstration of how the paint comes off the brush using your nail or the paper towel.
So detailed, useful and interesting guide! Watched it at a single breath. It is one of those when you don't want miss a thing. It gives understanding of techniques not from visual side but from within of the process! Thank you a lot for such a great video!
Really enjoyed this video. Great to see an objective look at two techniques that aim to do the same thing side by side. I loved hearing your thoughts on the pros and cons of both rather than being super heavily focused on one and why it is 'better'. Looking forward to seeing more content from you in the coming months
So interesting! Love the comparison, love watching you paint, love marvelling at how good it looks afterwards 😁
A 1:1 comparison of TMM vs. NMM on the same miniature is a good Idea to show differences. Great work.
I like the armour and cloak of the NMM model and on the TMM model the shield. :)
They both look amazing but the NMM is perfection
Es geht endlich wieder los!
TMM for the win. Fantastic first vid Trovariion!
Well done - excellent explanation & tutorial
Both look stunning, i tend to like the tmm more
they both look fking amazing amazing job!
Great video!
You are very good at explaining the process step by step, informative and fun to watch at the same time!
this is such a great video showing the results of both and a great guide on trying to get the best out of both techniques. just starting to try and get better at NMM. thank you
I must say this video helped me alot on my nmm journey right now. Thank you
Mad respect and love for using recast in your bases on this and the Void Dragon. I suppose that showing how to recast sculpts to enhance your bases is why GW doesn't send you stuff anymore. Way to have huge balls and just do it anyway. TUTORIAL BRAVELY
Great video I love seeing the two approaches side by side. I really enjoyed the history and overlay images that demonstrated what you where discussing in the intro. The length of the instructions was spot on and I’d love to see more.
Awesome video dude. Good Luck!
alternate title: insane brush control video. Outstanding work Trovarion - the camera work is impressive too. Thanks for sharing once again.
Thanks!
Absolutely incredible! Thank you for sharing your incredible talent!
I will probably never adventure into NMM. I feel like the time and skill entry to get a good result is enormous. This is a great video!
Thanks for the in-depth tutorial on how to properly use metallics! I'm not really interested in doing NMM but the methods you described will really make up my game with metals.
Great job, I loved this side by side approach. This also gave me some new techniques to use with TMM, so thanks!
Never seen such a direct comparison of both techniques. Great video mate. To my eyes, great TMM has always looked better than great NMM and this video reinforced this notion. Needless to say you are a master at both!
Great Kris looking forward to more cheers appreciate the work you do for the community 👍👍
I see so many people use TMM, but it's so hard to add or take anything away at that point. Also, thanks for all the work you do!
Great video, another one to watch several times to digest all the info 🙏😊
Thank you for the video, top quality as always!
Both look absolutely amazing, love the way you do your nmm. All the best and hope your channel gets the views you deserve.
More amazing content, information packed and concise. looking forward to the more frequent uploads of your masterful knowledge. 🤙
To me, the winner comes down to the static nature of the NMM. I love picking up a model and having the reflections change as I rotate the figure around. I like changing the lighting and watching it change the figurine. So I prefer more real world metallic techniques.
I stumbled across this video by accident, but the non-metallic metal painting here was amazing! I found myself liking the NMM version much more in your work.
Thanks. Really enjoyed. Excited to see lots more content from you.
Super video. Freue mich auf den häufigeren content output.
I like when you pointed out how non metallic glazing adds contrast to the scheme. This is a relief for me because I'm trying to paint a Caladius Annihilator and glazing down the gold has proven to be an ordeal with metallics so I'm glad to hear that using standard colors is a viable alternative.
Loved this vid. I love the TMM stuff you did. Keep up the great work, looking forward to the next vid.
Loved this one! Both models look so good and you showed the process very well. I can see using the TMM method for batch painting armies. Really learned a lot. Thank you sir.
Perfect video, just like that.
Hope we can see more videos like this in this new “season”, keep it up!
Nono. Unconsciously worked. Love the videos my dude! Learning a lot!
Love this video as it is more of a class. From the last video I though we would get a class on color theory, it seems that every video is it's own class. Thank you for all you do. I am excited for the next one.
This shows that even if you have the technical ability to paint the NMM style you still need to know where to place the reflections and what colours will sell it.
Also shows that TMM can be taken to a much higher level than I have ever attempted.
Thanks