Pokemon, But You Can Use Any Ability

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  • @jimmyjuice697
    @jimmyjuice697 2 роки тому +2061

    I'm not gonna lie, watching Gengar OHKO a Blissey with Focus Blast was awesome.

    • @Princecharisma111
      @Princecharisma111 2 роки тому +75

      Word. Cuz that’s how it’s sposed to be

    • @averygamerdude7911
      @averygamerdude7911 2 роки тому +51

      That’s like killing God.

    • @gammaf1365
      @gammaf1365 2 роки тому

      ​@@averygamerdude7911 killing a god specialized in killing humans

    • @ShinyKyu
      @ShinyKyu Рік тому +9

      The awesomeness comes from how focus miss actually landed

    • @coolguy02536
      @coolguy02536 20 днів тому

      Glad you didn't lie!

  • @butteredsalmonella
    @butteredsalmonella 2 роки тому +3443

    Love how in Gen 6, Weavile was banned and people just used Sneasel.

    • @BaalFridge
      @BaalFridge 2 роки тому +546

      Like people using frogadier/raboot with protean/libero

    • @pogchimp9452
      @pogchimp9452 2 роки тому +432

      like in gen 5 1v1 they banned whimsicott so everyone used cottonee

    • @Hensley_Jb
      @Hensley_Jb 2 роки тому +43

      I was one of those

    • @mrexcadrill8474
      @mrexcadrill8474 2 роки тому +217

      @@pogchimp9452 remember Jamie Boyt won a vgc regional with Cottonee over Whismicott to prove a point

    • @competitivepokemonfans2672
      @competitivepokemonfans2672 2 роки тому +161

      When dugtrio was banned in gen 5 people start using diglett which has pathetic attack but barely enough to take down something like heatran

  • @SuperPokekami
    @SuperPokekami 2 роки тому +1004

    I find it hilarious that I never knew double iron bash flinches because melmetal is so dirt slow

    • @djroscurro9859
      @djroscurro9859 2 роки тому +47

      Shit I didn’t know that until now LOL

    • @dabmonstr7403
      @dabmonstr7403 2 роки тому +115

      That's why we run thunder wave and trick room and tailwind people

    • @sreenaths6829
      @sreenaths6829 2 роки тому +80

      It's a comically busted move lmao

    • @Ghostrider6A
      @Ghostrider6A 2 роки тому +1

      VGC series 13 allows Melmetal.

    • @djroscurro9859
      @djroscurro9859 2 роки тому +27

      @@dabmonstr7403 Ah yes from 30 to 60 speed LMAO

  • @blacky6552
    @blacky6552 2 роки тому +796

    Whoever wrote that text on Dragonite deserves a raise. That line "Extreme[ly] Speed[y cleanup of offense]" is just soo good.

    • @3cliptikiCurrent
      @3cliptikiCurrent 2 роки тому +30

      IMFAO, didn’t even see that during the video. That’s funnyaf.

    • @Devil935
      @Devil935 2 роки тому +4

      I feel like I get half the joke here

    • @Lrizu
      @Lrizu Рік тому +4

      I don't think smogon mods get paid

    • @notshockwavedemon7543
      @notshockwavedemon7543 Рік тому +2

      Aerilate Extreme Speed
      Basically a stronger Flying type First Impression that can actually be spammed

    • @cellP8
      @cellP8 5 місяців тому

      lol

  • @homuraakemi3287
    @homuraakemi3287 2 роки тому +362

    Ah yes the classic -ate ability + boom burst combo. Super common combo in BH that's just as nightmarish as it sounds on stuff like Kyurem Black and Mega Diancie. Luckily for AAA Boon burst doesn't have the widest learnset

    • @GeneralForster
      @GeneralForster 2 роки тому +29

      Sylveon makes a deadly user of it in STABmons as well. Very fun.

    • @competitivepokemonfans2672
      @competitivepokemonfans2672 2 роки тому +7

      @@GeneralForster Like it 3 hit ko Blissey

    • @chaoscasserole5990
      @chaoscasserole5990 2 роки тому +2

      Tbh I was thinking of getting into something like hackmons or AAA and using Aerialate Boomburst Specs Chatot, but I don't know if Chatot can get boomburst so it might not work

    • @ronnieketchum1241
      @ronnieketchum1241 2 роки тому +1

      Radical Red Swellow with a puny 75 SpA terrorised everything. What do you expect from Noivern doing the exact same thing? Specs Boomburst with any -ate is basically a nuke.

    • @anathos0369
      @anathos0369 2 роки тому +6

      I remember a time when contrary v create was not ban in balanced hackmon. This thing was dope XD

  • @pikminman13
    @pikminman13 2 роки тому +327

    keld gained a few points in my book today. went from being walled by pex to obliterating it, anything that kills pex is a friend to me. still love how mr. fish can ohko pex in the rain...

    • @dabmonstr7403
      @dabmonstr7403 2 роки тому +29

      Mr. Fish two hit koes palkia in rain (with choice band

    • @pikminman13
      @pikminman13 2 роки тому +8

      @@dabmonstr7403 is that on a switch in? because i dont think vish ever outspeeds palkia to get that extra damage outside of tailwind or trick room.

    • @dabmonstr7403
      @dabmonstr7403 2 роки тому +11

      @@pikminman13 yeah but you get the point. Also if you don't use tailwind support why use dracovish anymore?

    • @pikminman13
      @pikminman13 2 роки тому +9

      @@dabmonstr7403 i dont know i dont play ubers im used to the scarf ou era

    • @dragonillis8121
      @dragonillis8121 2 роки тому +1

      tintend lens is enough vs toxapex

  • @a.gabrielarchibald5291
    @a.gabrielarchibald5291 2 роки тому +201

    It would be interesting to see a series of this weird bans in other metagames... like godly gift or balanced hackmons

    • @adrianclamens6679
      @adrianclamens6679 2 роки тому +20

      Freezai made a video on the most surprising ban of all time: Cramorant, in balanced hackmons

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 2 роки тому

      What is Godly Gift, anyways? I'm unfamiliar with that.

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 2 роки тому +3

      @@adrianclamens6679 It's weird that in Pokemon Unite a glitch made Cramorant literally invincible for the entire game.

    • @Robin_hsr12
      @Robin_hsr12 2 роки тому

      @@adrianclamens6679 in gorging form that is

    • @codenamec.a.t2480
      @codenamec.a.t2480 2 роки тому +4

      @@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 I’m VERY late, but basically you get 5 OU or below pokemon and one Uber. That Uber has 6 slots relating to each of its stats, and the Pokémon in those slots get those stats. For example, if you put something like a Zygarde 10% in slot 2(the attack slot) with Necrozma Dusk Mane not in slot 2, it will have Necrozma Dusk Mane’s base 153 attack.

  • @littlegeek5159
    @littlegeek5159 2 роки тому +35

    dragonite and noivern seem pretty straightforward, actually
    aerilate + boomburst/extremespeed goes _brrrrrrr_

  • @HatsuneLuka
    @HatsuneLuka 2 роки тому +21

    Love how as soon as I saw Noivern, I knew it was Aerilate Boomburst that made it busted. I play Mix & Mega and one of my favorite set was a Salamencite Noivern, where he gets +10 Special Attack and +20 Speed making him have an op 143 Speed, and finally +50 Defense giving him a fat 130 Defense.

  • @thecontrarysnivy
    @thecontrarysnivy 2 роки тому +36

    I'm so proud of Noivern. I've always wanted Noivern to get some good competitive use (doesn't really matter what format), and here we are.

    • @GlitchyNoibat
      @GlitchyNoibat 2 роки тому +4

      As someone who's favorite Pokémon is Noibat and really likes Noivern too, I feel really happy about this. (EDIT: Spelling error)

    • @SFAGYT
      @SFAGYT 2 роки тому +2

      Noivern is just awesome

  • @Tael98
    @Tael98 2 роки тому +189

    A video on this metagame (for example the most used sets) would be interesting

    • @kingstafa6958
      @kingstafa6958 2 роки тому +15

      agreed the AAA format seems like it would open up alot of different unique playstyles

    • @iron2684
      @iron2684 2 роки тому +7

      True, free AAA meta vid

    • @grim_blazer9120
      @grim_blazer9120 2 роки тому +15

      Let’s get a video on belly drum charizard so that people other than me will use it

    • @Lambeaux0
      @Lambeaux0 2 роки тому +12

      This video has made me interested in actually getting into competitive with this tier - seems so interesting to basically have to really know your stuff and can't just rely on a bunch of OU standard sets (which is fun but you don't get truly surprised often)

    • @grim_blazer9120
      @grim_blazer9120 2 роки тому +2

      @@Lambeaux0 do it, I’ll see you on the ladder

  • @We_Are_I_Am
    @We_Are_I_Am 2 роки тому +112

    Not surprised huge power /
    & pure power were banned considering how busted they are, especially with top base attack mons.

    • @Drakorre
      @Drakorre 2 роки тому +31

      Huge Power regigigas sounds so fun

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 2 роки тому +23

      Huge Power Regigigas seems an obvious choice.

    • @Skeloperch
      @Skeloperch 2 роки тому +37

      You telling me you DON'T want to see Huge Power Urshifu-S OHKO'ing your Togekiss with a banded Close Combat?

    • @michelecozzarin
      @michelecozzarin 2 роки тому +13

      I wanna see Huge Power banded Kartana ohko Heatran with Smart Strike

    • @shanedsouza189
      @shanedsouza189 2 роки тому +1

      I'd love to see huge power slaking

  • @TheBoatis
    @TheBoatis 2 роки тому +9

    I remember somewhere around the ORAS era when Weavile ran refrigerate feint to kill aerialate Dragonite's extremespeed. 30 power was enough because obviously no multiscale. My favorite silly set from then was klutz assault vest gengar - lots of things ran poison heal and magic guard (toxic orb), but hated the permanent taunt.

  • @christopherdangelo1292
    @christopherdangelo1292 2 роки тому +52

    You know for the magic guard mind blown there is a meta where that actually is a obtainable thing. It is called radical red, the showdown server is called radical red showdown, and the combo was seen on delphox. And it also was banned from ou

    • @lucapompey-buslon6857
      @lucapompey-buslon6857 2 роки тому +9

      Ye but that's also due to its coverage like grass know scorching sands etc

    • @TheCommenterSam
      @TheCommenterSam 2 роки тому +6

      I can see Delphox getting Magic Guard instead of nearly-useless Magician, but Mind Blown sure pushes over the top as expected in something like Radical Red.

    • @grunkleg.2934
      @grunkleg.2934 2 роки тому +8

      @@TheCommenterSam Delphox was one of the most buffed Pokemon in RR for what it's worth. The only other Pokemon in RR Ubers that aren't normally Ubers are Pirouette Meloetta who no longer requires using Relic Song in battle, Mega Gallade with Blademaster boosting the power and crit-rate of its Sacred Swords and Psycho Cuts, and Toxtricity with its shiny new Punk Rock-powered Mega. Delphox didn't need a Mega to get banned

  • @staren1991
    @staren1991 2 роки тому +23

    don't break counters, respect your furniture

  • @towelpartypanic
    @towelpartypanic 2 роки тому +106

    This is such genuinely good content. The level of insight into anything niche is quite rare to begin with. Just fantastic quality work

  • @kenpachizaraki5237
    @kenpachizaraki5237 2 роки тому +19

    In Gen 7, my favourite mon to use was Tinted Lens Infernape. It's not the best Pokemon in the world but it's my favourite and I even managed to beat its counters at certain situations.

  • @PQRDG
    @PQRDG 2 роки тому +594

    I’m seeing a lot of clips with Poison Heal in them. Are these clips all taken from before the Poison Heal ban? On that note, it would be fun to hear about what abilities were banned and why, considering the Primal weathers and things like No Guard are allowed

    • @iron2684
      @iron2684 2 роки тому +172

      Most of those mons were banned before p heal was banned, which is why most clips have p heal in them

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 2 роки тому +58

      Poison Heal was such a stupid ability anyway, everybody knows that it's gonna invariably get banned for how unironically toxic it is.
      I recall very early in gen 8 how frankly stupid PH Snorlax was, with the limited pokedex, Snorlax was once again pretty damn good stat wise and there weren't that many strong fighting types that could threaten it out, and if it ever got a curse, it was worse, and considering how difficult it can be to chip Snorlax down with PH, it was a very potent late game sweeper in the meta. It wasn't the strongest or most centralizing by quite a margin, but it definitely was one of the least fun to deal with

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 2 роки тому +18

      @@sephikong8323 Wasn't Gliscor really good in OU for quite a while mainly because of Poison Heal?
      It's such an OP ability. You can't get statused, and you heal every turn.

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 2 роки тому +29

      @@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Not only that but you cannot prevent the healing once it got poisoned and so after just one turn, the PH Pokemon becomes a perfect Knock Off sponge, allowing it to greatly alleviate pressure on the rest of your team.
      This ability is so busted even freaking Breloom had a legit and quite threatening defensive set in gen 4 and 5 thanks to it, and Breloom's bulk is similar to that of Weavile ffs

    • @Jarubimba
      @Jarubimba 2 роки тому +7

      @@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 It healing is usually the double than from Leftovers and Black Sludge

  • @squidge477
    @squidge477 2 роки тому +10

    Versatility is sometimes a Pokemon's strongest asset. If Buzzwole was always just the triage set then you could play around it, but you're guessing between 2-3 viable sets. Sometimes just forcing your opponent to scout and figure out what you're doing is enough to win.

  • @floorgle
    @floorgle 2 роки тому +22

    I honestly love this tier so much it is so fun to mess about with friends with, with sets like mega launcher lucario or unburden throat spray clangorous soul kommo-o, it is a small shame that basically everything just benefits from magic guard life orb because of how good it is

  • @chuckmorris5886
    @chuckmorris5886 2 роки тому +31

    My dream (Because I'm a madman) was always to run Double Iron Bash on a fast Mon and give it Serene Grace. Doesn't quite work, and rightfully so

    • @aseriesofletters6346
      @aseriesofletters6346 2 роки тому +15

      Double Iron Bash is such a broken move that you can't even run it in Balanced Hackmons lol

    • @dabmonstr7403
      @dabmonstr7403 2 роки тому +8

      Hear me out. Double iron bash serene grace zacian

    • @The_Lightless
      @The_Lightless 2 роки тому +5

      @@dabmonstr7403 doesn’t zacian need it’s ability for +1 attack? It won’t come into the field with 7 million attack which seems like a nerf.

    • @tr4shpanda
      @tr4shpanda 2 роки тому +5

      @@The_Lightless Still has 1200 BST

    • @rithakc
      @rithakc 2 роки тому

      @@tr4shpanda 120

  • @Emma-rw8yo
    @Emma-rw8yo 2 роки тому +59

    I feel like you do a good job of explaining *why* a ban is necessary for the health of the meta. I feel like a lot of ban explanations are just like "well you had to teambuild around it" which is stupid because yeah, you've always gotta build around meta threats. You do a good job of explaining that, for example, a mons counters are heavily limited/unviable in their own right/whatever

  • @pengiplays9226
    @pengiplays9226 2 роки тому +17

    What is interesting is that a lot of the banned Pokémon are too strong due to either tinted lens or sheer force, and I find it odd that every Pokémon that can abuse those get banned instead of the abilities themselves

    • @kerbonaut2059
      @kerbonaut2059 2 роки тому +8

      This generally means that there are other users of the ability that are able to use it without being overbearing alongside their other sets. You need something like that if stuff like RegenVest is running around.

  • @thesubstitute7755
    @thesubstitute7755 2 роки тому +36

    Any ability was prob one of the few tiers Regi could have shine and they, yet again, blue balled him

    • @grim_blazer9120
      @grim_blazer9120 2 роки тому +11

      There’s balanced hackmons

    • @hatslapper6860
      @hatslapper6860 2 роки тому +2

      Regieleki?

    • @grim_blazer9120
      @grim_blazer9120 2 роки тому +9

      @@hatslapper6860 regigigas

    • @LukeLol627
      @LukeLol627 2 роки тому +25

      i mean, regigigas is one of the best and most meta defining mons in balanced hackmons

    • @hatslapper6860
      @hatslapper6860 2 роки тому +1

      @@grim_blazer9120 whoops I'm dumb lol

  • @beybl7869
    @beybl7869 2 роки тому +5

    There was so magic guard/sheer force + life orb. And a decent amount of tinted lens. Sounds like it's those abilities and not the mons lmaooo

  • @serpentmaster1323
    @serpentmaster1323 2 роки тому +10

    I t was a few years ago, I think it was on almost any ability, (or maybe it was balanced hackmons) I used to love to run imposter on really weird mons and, or disguise my imposter Pokémon with really strong mons. I had a team that did this with Dialga, and pheramosa, tho I forget wich one wis disguised as the other. When I tried to go back and do it again some part of it had been banned.
    My go-to thing on the almost any ability, STAB mons, and mix and mega metagames is find ways to get twice-hitting moves on a Pokémon with technician. I also like to get megalauncher on hydreigon. In almost any ability it’s free game, but in mix and mega I put scicorite on klingklang and blastoiseite on hydreigon. This makes klinklang’s gear grind, and hydreigon’s dark pulse effectively 150 base power(if you don’t miss), and dragon pulse even higher. Loved doing that.

  • @djroscurro9859
    @djroscurro9859 2 роки тому +23

    I immediately realized before watching that Aerilate Noivern would be RIDICULOUS

  • @vulpony2130
    @vulpony2130 2 роки тому +18

    Tbh wasn't surprised pult was ban

  • @superfrubblez6123
    @superfrubblez6123 2 роки тому +52

    Noivern is my second favorite Pokémon and it was cool to see her amazing in a tier. I do hope that Noivern gets aerialate somehow in normal Pokémon.

    • @The_Lightless
      @The_Lightless 2 роки тому +4

      That would make it broken as discussed in the video.

    • @superfrubblez6123
      @superfrubblez6123 2 роки тому +18

      @@The_Lightless yes which would be awesome

    • @FrostyTheCookie
      @FrostyTheCookie 2 роки тому

      @@superfrubblez6123 But i want to actually use Noivern :(

    • @YOSSARIAN313
      @YOSSARIAN313 2 роки тому +1

      It would be easily OU if it got areialate boomburst. Just spam specs boomburst. It'll hit anything that doesn't quad resist it for huge damage. Also it could run throat spray to clean late game.

    • @GlitchyNoibat
      @GlitchyNoibat 2 роки тому

      I also really like Noivern and Noibat is literally my all-time favorite Pokémon, so I love seeing it shine

  • @danielsmith5032
    @danielsmith5032 2 роки тому +9

    It makes you think ... "hm. Maybe this is why the designers of the game gave specific Pokemon the moves/abilities they did for a reason"

    • @ThePenisMan
      @ThePenisMan 2 роки тому +14

      Durant’s hidden ability is “truant” literally JUST because it sounds like “true ant,” don’t act like gf is the master of balance focuses on nothing but gameplay

    • @XenithShadow
      @XenithShadow 2 роки тому +5

      @@ThePenisMan To be fair durant single handled broke the gen 5 single battle tower with it's hidden ability. They literally had different top run's based on if you used durant or not. As in external site's that tracked your best winrate had durant and non-durant team's seperated.

    • @ThePenisMan
      @ThePenisMan 2 роки тому +4

      @@XenithShadow yeah that makes it even worse
      It’s joke ability was used for a broken cheese strat

    • @danielsmith5032
      @danielsmith5032 2 роки тому

      @@ThePenisMan Is "that" why they gave it truant? If so, provide where you got that information please

    • @ThePenisMan
      @ThePenisMan 2 роки тому +5

      @@danielsmith5032 are you suggesting that there’s a possibility that Durant has slaking’s exclusive ability used to nerf it’s huge base stats for any other reason? Because it sure as hell wasn’t gameplay

  • @TheRedAzuki
    @TheRedAzuki 2 роки тому +9

    this video kinda shows that my opinion of Movepool > Ability > Typing>=stats.
    Movepool is the most important. Since it can make or break a pokemon.
    Ability is 2nd most important, since it can make a pokemon overpowered or completely useless
    Typing is important due to weaknessess and certain protections some types get.
    Stats is the last important thing since if it got a shitty movepool or ability, doesn't matter if it has good stats. Typing is slightly better than stats if it got great ability & movepool. (see Clefable since gen 6 or Sableye in gen 5)
    stats is also something you can improved quite easily. (IV, EV, Status moves, Abilities etc) but Typing is quite difficult to change.

    • @azuma_playlist8708
      @azuma_playlist8708 2 роки тому +3

      I’d say they are equally as important. There are so many examples of Pokémon that get “carried” one of these 4 traits (or more)

    • @TheRedAzuki
      @TheRedAzuki 2 роки тому +2

      @@azuma_playlist8708 if a pokemon have a bad movepool and a bad ability, it's always a bad pkmn

    • @galaxystudios370
      @galaxystudios370 2 роки тому

      @Grunty Boi laughs in wonder guard

    • @klumpeus
      @klumpeus 2 місяці тому

      delibird:

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 2 роки тому +3

    mentioning Steelworker and Tinted Lens on Melmetal, meanwhile I'm thinking of Technician. Anotherbone is Serene Grace with Choice Scarf

  • @grantwilliams630
    @grantwilliams630 2 роки тому +11

    I wish regigigas wasn't banned. I love that it had one area that it wasn't absolute trash

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 2 роки тому +13

      there's always Balanced Hackmons

    • @azelfie1041
      @azelfie1041 2 роки тому

      @@goGothitaLOL in balanced hackmons a lot of things are better than a normal type that hits pretty hard

    • @codenamec.a.t2480
      @codenamec.a.t2480 2 роки тому +1

      @@azelfie1041 ik I’m a month late, but…have you even played BH?

  • @axiomlb4967
    @axiomlb4967 2 роки тому +5

    It would be cool to see more AAA videos or balanced hackmons videos, it's so interesting to see how broken some pokemon can be with the right set

  • @gamerdude3465
    @gamerdude3465 2 роки тому +7

    >1:51
    >Buzzwole named Grindr

  • @supremeoverlordfallen5
    @supremeoverlordfallen5 2 роки тому +7

    This vid title=Aerilate Noivern(it should have been a thing btw)

  • @lasagnapig630
    @lasagnapig630 2 роки тому +3

    “Sheer Force” is such a fitting ability for Victini lmao

  • @TenArashi
    @TenArashi 2 роки тому +4

    Hmmm not sure if you've covered it yet, but the Calm Mind ban in Camomons is definitely unituitive and pretty interesting!

  • @NICOCLASH
    @NICOCLASH 2 роки тому +2

    5:35 Desolate land chandelure seems a really Giga-chad pick that will differentiate from your average 300 Iq teambuilder

  • @heftyjongle2958
    @heftyjongle2958 2 роки тому +4

    I love how 80% of showdown bans are “it’s too hard to guess the set”

  • @OhCrapI_He
    @OhCrapI_He 2 роки тому +4

    There should be an "Almost Any Ability Ubers" Tier where you can use these Pokémon.

    • @duckymomo7935
      @duckymomo7935 7 місяців тому

      That entire tier will be aerilate extremespeed dragonanite

  • @dakoriolf
    @dakoriolf 2 роки тому +5

    I understand banning the specific combo that breaks things would be really hard to implement but damn they really don’t let you use archeops in the metagame that lets it not have Defeatist

    • @azurai3934
      @azurai3934 6 місяців тому

      Archeops is almost a legendary with 567 BST GameFreak had to nerf it somehow 💀

  • @RDKirbyN
    @RDKirbyN 2 роки тому +9

    This is reminiscent of League of Legends Ultra Rapid Fire (URF) and then the subsequent modifications to later iterations of URF due to incredibly broken strategies of an inherently broken metagame. It's fascinating to see a sort of similar story in another game attempting a similar fun game type.

  • @criskooo2802
    @criskooo2802 2 роки тому +20

    How about the same concept but for monotype?

  • @alinepiroutek8932
    @alinepiroutek8932 2 роки тому +2

    Unrelated but that Gengar Focus Blast OHKOing Blissey is nuts

  • @pigsplayinggames
    @pigsplayinggames 2 роки тому +4

    There's a world out there where noivern is sound type and stab boom burst put it in ubers

    • @dabmonstr7403
      @dabmonstr7403 2 роки тому

      Even stab boomburst isn't that strong on a noivern. Noivern offensive stats suck

  • @christianp.7675
    @christianp.7675 2 роки тому +4

    I remember drafting up a scarf Regen Nihilego back in the day to counter Blace. Sucker was an absolutely beautiful counter to Blace, and it's still a fun anti-meta pick to revenge kill Skewda and other frail attackers.

  • @jj4123
    @jj4123 2 роки тому +11

    I used to play a lot of pure hackmons, and I’m still at a 1600 elo. The best sets I found were
    =
    Prankster-curse-leech seed-sub-spore-leftovers-giratina
    aerilate-fake out-extreme speed-ice shard-thousand arrows-lum/safety goggles-ray ray
    pixilate-fake out-extreme speed-bullet punch-crunch-sash-mega diance
    mold breaker-water spout-boomburst-any other 2 special moves that’s useful to a team-scarf-primal kyogre
    Banded-huge power-mega mewtwo
    Wonder guard is only really good on 3 mons
    Gyarados with a mega band, so you start with wonder guard, you go for shell smash as long as you can, with sub-extreme speed-waterfall, when you need to you go mega, you get mold breaker, and kill everything with either a fast waterfall, or an extreme speed.
    Meloetta is also good with it, it only has a weakness to dark, so you just put heal bell-leech seed-toxic-and I like recover, I also prefer using safety goggles as a counter to giratina.
    And the last one that’s pretty good is a mega manectric with an air baloon, it’s unbeatable without thousand arrows or mold breaker. And I’d also give it thunderbolt-boomburst-shell smash and baton pass.
    I’ve seen some people run a team of Mega Gardevoirs, and that is actually OP.
    Deoxys with no guard is very overrated, because you can’t really be scarfed. So any fast scarfer beats it, you need gastro acid and a healthy brain to make it really good.
    Mega gengar can do something similar to giratina, I just like the bulk, since speed isn’t important.
    In my opinion, regigigas should just get own tempo or something as a hidden ability, because it’s trash even in pure hackmons, the same could be said for slaking as well, it would just need a slight nerf to it’s spdef.
    Edit: wrote giratina instead of regigigas lmao.

    • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
      @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 2 роки тому +1

      We aren't on Reddit, nobody cares if you correct a typo, but what's most obnoxious is when you don't even correct the fucking typo and just put it at the end of the comment.

    • @jj4123
      @jj4123 2 роки тому +3

      @@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Didn’t correct a typo, wrote the wrong pokemon lmao. And what typo?

    • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
      @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 2 роки тому +1

      @@jj4123 Writing the wrong word is a type of typo. Going "Edit:" to fix the problem, especially when you don't fix the problem until the fucking end, is some Reddit tier retardation.

    • @grim_blazer9120
      @grim_blazer9120 2 роки тому

      @@jj4123 I don’t play bh but I thought regigigas was one of the biggest meta defining threats with its poison heal facade set

    • @jj4123
      @jj4123 2 роки тому

      @@grim_blazer9120 The big problem a lot of the hyper offensive pokemon face is 4 move syndrome. And in this tier you also have 1 ability syndrome, or 6 pokemon syndrome. Status isn’t really that important in this tier unless used against wonder guard. Or with used with prankset sets. Using mold breaker or huge power over poison heal is always more useful.
      You have to choose which pokemon to bring very carefully. It’s really a battle of predicting which pokemon have the tools for your tools. If both players make perfect choices, the battle will go on literally forever. So you have to decide exactly when to make the risky play.
      In a metagame where things can kill you in one hit, a poison heal set is usually pretty useless, and even if it uses moves that can hit your wonderguard pokemon, aerialite/pixlilate fake out/extreme speed, is going to kill. (Giga man is really not that fast, so extreme speed from a faster mon goes first)
      Regigigas’s set’s just don’t have enough utility to overshadow other more powerful pokemon.
      In my opinion, the most opressive set of any pokemon is the kyogre set I mentioned earlier. It can kill any shuckle in one hit, it outspeeds most of the metagame, and can also hit through wonderguard. The only real counter is sash, which is rare and underrated in pure hackmons.
      Rayquaza isn’t necessary, because any pokemon can be mega without items. It’s just very fast, and really only looses to wonder guard meloetta and prankster gengar/giratina. That’s the reason I run safety googles.
      Mega diancie is really destructive in the metagame. It dies pretty quickly, which is the reason for sash. But the real danger is pixilite, it has so much utility, and also kills any meta set. Bullet punch is for fairies like diancie or xerneas. Crunch is purely for meloetta.
      If pure hackmons had a 1v1 format, meloetta would be on every single team. It’s just completely impossible to break for some teams.
      Mega Mewtwo X is what Regigigas tries to be. It can kill anything in one hit. It just really struggles with 1 ability syndrome, and can usually be countered pretty easily. You never want to be forced into loosing your counters before fighting it though, you’ll loose.
      I always have 2-3 mons with mold breaker, because it’s necessary to break a bunch of strategies. And many abilities are too good to not use. So be very careful when choosing an ability like poison heal instead of something that makes you invincible :)

  • @marcshade9916
    @marcshade9916 2 роки тому +6

    I would love to see you keep making content on OMs like Mix and Mega and AAA

  • @mkv3542
    @mkv3542 2 роки тому +9

    You should do a video of how meta would shift greatly if Physical/Special split never happened

  • @Niroc69420
    @Niroc69420 2 роки тому +5

    you forgot to mention skill swap + normalize gengar that beated every mon that are slower than him

    • @rithakc
      @rithakc 2 роки тому

      doesnt seem that good

    • @dabmonstr7403
      @dabmonstr7403 2 роки тому

      @@rithakc normalize makes all of target's moves normal type. Gengar is immune to normal types. So if skill swapped to a pokemon it gets its ability and they can't hit gengar. I kinda call it fucking op ngl

    • @rithakc
      @rithakc 2 роки тому

      @@dabmonstr7403 ok but it can still be hit by chip damage like burn or sandstorm

  • @massimilianodelrosso5495
    @massimilianodelrosso5495 2 роки тому +4

    I must try an Aerilate ExtremeSpeed Dragonite at least once in my life. It must be so empowering

    • @artemissrijan473
      @artemissrijan473 Рік тому

      It's legal right now so I think you should go ahead

  • @BladeTNT2018
    @BladeTNT2018 2 роки тому +37

    When will theory mon Thursday return?

    • @frequentlyfreddie
      @frequentlyfreddie 2 роки тому +12

      Thursday

    • @juanfritze4808
      @juanfritze4808 2 роки тому +2

      I got a good one. If you use helping hand and target an opposing Pokémon, if they attack they get the boost like normal. But if they use a status move, that move is denied and they lose that turn. Almost like helping hand forces an attack move. So if they select for example calm mind. It fails. But if they attack they get the boost.

    • @BladeTNT2018
      @BladeTNT2018 2 роки тому +5

      I also have a good one: What if there is a physical orb and a special orb?
      The physical orb makes special moves turn into physical moves and use the physical attack stat.
      The opposite is true for the special orb

    • @juanfritze4808
      @juanfritze4808 2 роки тому

      @@BladeTNT2018 I feel like that make it a little op. I could see how it would be useful tho. Like having a physical water type be able to use scald. I guess it depends on those few mons that have high damage moves that are special and are physical.

    • @BladeTNT2018
      @BladeTNT2018 2 роки тому

      @@juanfritze4808 This can be somewhat useful for pokemon who have bad movesets from one and good for the other.
      Like for example, a physical attacker who has a bad physical movepool, but a great special movepool

  • @Prototale1487
    @Prototale1487 2 роки тому +2

    Level one bulbasaur with sturdy and leech seed is nearly immortal

  • @loftilywrongly3483
    @loftilywrongly3483 2 роки тому +4

    I think a list of Pokemon that are bad in a certain tier for an interesting reason like the Celebi video could be interesting.

  • @megascrafty1624
    @megascrafty1624 2 роки тому +1

    I took park in getting noivern banned the video thumbanail wasn’t even loading and I knew aerilate boomburst noivern was the main menace

  • @thehiddenninja3428
    @thehiddenninja3428 2 роки тому +3

    With so many bans maybe they should create an Ubers AAA tier where nothing is banned lol

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 Рік тому +1

    I’ve got some ability ideas for abilities that will save terrible Pokémon:
    -Filter and its clones: Halves damage from super effective moves.
    -Illuminate: Ignores stat-protecting effects.
    -Light Metal: Increases Speed by 20%, but lowers defenses by 10% each.
    -Heavy Metal: Increases defenses by 10% each, but decreases Speed by 20%.
    -Permafrost/Hard Ice (still thinking of what name is better): Quarters damage from Fire, Fighting, Rock, and Steel, including damage from Stealth Rock. Given to defensive Ice-types like Cryogonal and Avalugg.
    -Smog Absorb: If hit by a Poison-type move, instead of taking damage, is healed by 1/4 of max HP. Given to defensive Poison-types like Swalot and Garbodor.
    -Wind Rider: Give it to Shiftry already!
    I kinda find it sad that Weavile is not allowed in the format that lets it run abilities that it can actually use as a fast frail physical attacker. Like, I would give it Tough Claws and Slush Rush, if it was up to me.

    • @artemissrijan473
      @artemissrijan473 Рік тому +1

      Yooo they actually gave Shiftry Wind Rider, congrats!

  • @prokemongaming5149
    @prokemongaming5149 2 роки тому +7

    Tinted lens is BROKEN

    • @alibaba3568
      @alibaba3568 2 роки тому +1

      *on the right mons.

    • @duckymomo7935
      @duckymomo7935 7 місяців тому

      The ability is broken because it removes the concept of resistances in Pokémon another key feature
      Arena trap is broken because it prevents switching out another core mechanic

  • @feltyone
    @feltyone 2 роки тому +1

    "or Water absorb togekiss which is as bad as it sounds". That one got me. Very good.

  • @crazylasagna3576
    @crazylasagna3576 2 роки тому +2

    You do not fuck around with Sheer Force + Life Orb. I run it on Volcanion and very few mons can survive his might.

  • @jackcostantino890
    @jackcostantino890 2 роки тому +10

    One of my favorite Pokémon to use is flash fire ferrothorn, heatran thinks they have won until their move does nothing and I use body press

    • @theopieters1971
      @theopieters1971 2 роки тому

      I absolutly hate flash fire ferrothorn, one of the post annoying pokemon to deal with

  • @dudedabomb
    @dudedabomb 2 роки тому

    This brings me back. The noivern test was the first suspect I ever participated in

  • @TheRealHelvetica
    @TheRealHelvetica Рік тому +1

    I wish some of these abilities were canon
    Specifically Triage Buzzswole and Arielate Dragonite/Noivern

  • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
    @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 2 роки тому +2

    It occurs to me that Wandering Spirit would probably be a counter to a lot of these banned threats.

    • @deadmaniac0472
      @deadmaniac0472 Рік тому

      No, not really. For one, wandering spirit works on contact only which doesn't stop most of the list. Of the ones it does, it doesn't matter because you take 50% or more from the first attack. Plus, they can always just switch out

  • @Ghostrider6A
    @Ghostrider6A 2 роки тому +1

    A nickname of Grindr on a Buzzwole? I’d like to meet the out player who thought of that one.

  • @DrPootis
    @DrPootis 2 роки тому +1

    This kind of a format sounds wacky and fun to play ,but is probably a nightmare in terms of team building .

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 2 роки тому +1

    Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @eleviathan4621
    @eleviathan4621 2 роки тому +1

    Always bring a pokemon with mold breaker, whether it's AAA or a randomizer, it will save your life

  • @skellingtron817
    @skellingtron817 2 роки тому +2

    dragonite really isnt much of a surprise when you look at the banlist of 99% of the other oms tbh

  • @Diana-tx2iz
    @Diana-tx2iz Рік тому +1

    Whew, now wouldn't it be scary to see a Dragonite use STAB extremespeed! Oh god.... Oh god no... Oh no.

  • @straightXjessedge
    @straightXjessedge 2 роки тому +2

    I remember how awful the Aerilate Dragonite metagame was, Dragonite getting banned was a blessing. There were also talks of just banning Aerilate outright (especially because of Noivern), but I felt pretty good about just getting rid of Dragonite at the time.

    • @SeriousStriker
      @SeriousStriker 2 роки тому

      Lesson learned from Mega Salamence and Aerilate Dragonite: Don't give pseudo legendaries good flying type STAB moves.

    • @takodachi1239
      @takodachi1239 Рік тому

      @@SeriousStriker given how Gyarados use bounce for max airstream and Z-fly Landorus, the lesson is: keep good physical flying move only to Bird pokemon

  • @aklepatzky
    @aklepatzky 2 роки тому +1

    0:22 it does surprise me
    Huge power learned by low attack poke making them have ok attack..yeah it does

    • @derpnumbers
      @derpnumbers 2 роки тому

      ???

    • @aklepatzky
      @aklepatzky 2 роки тому

      @@derpnumbers i dont speak sign language sorry friend

  • @luizpdrnogueira
    @luizpdrnogueira 2 роки тому +1

    You know what would be busted? Giving Gengar an immunity. Could you imagine Levitate Gengar tearing up OU? Going from being countered by ground types to checking them?

  • @AffyMoon
    @AffyMoon Рік тому +1

    I think dragonite was the least surprising for me lol, I remember barely anything could switch into aerilite tera flying extreme speed

  • @Pablo-yu9mc
    @Pablo-yu9mc 2 роки тому +2

    Hey Freezai, remember the LC team making tutorial? How about making amother video like that for another tier like NAt Dex? Would help a lot of new commers!

  • @SnoFitzroy
    @SnoFitzroy 2 роки тому +3

    Melmetal in Main Sseries: [gets the best Steel move] [actually good mythical steel type] [superior design]
    Melmetal in GO: pwease don't use fwamefwower togakish i'm just a wittle lump of meddal,,,,,
    I really with they'd give us DIB already lol

    • @CadeKeefe
      @CadeKeefe 7 місяців тому

      They did and melmetal is the reason I play restricted master league only

  • @ericab3919
    @ericab3919 2 роки тому +2

    quick suggestion: throw a quick description of the abilities when you mention them, especially the ones that are signature abilities and arent common in standard play :)

    • @skullguy4863
      @skullguy4863 2 роки тому

      I mean doesn't he usually put the ability definition in the video

  • @Rhystiik
    @Rhystiik Рік тому +1

    Gengar try not to get banned in some regard challenge (impossible)

  • @jpnmello9318
    @jpnmello9318 2 роки тому +11

    The weavile one, I thought it was because of technician (boosting beat up and triple axel)

  • @ulamgexe7442
    @ulamgexe7442 2 роки тому +3

    This video reminded me clearly why I quitted showdown: I disliked a lot of ban decisions. For instance, if aeriliate makes plenty of pokemons super broken in AAA, why not just banning aeriliate instead of banning a dozen of pokemons? Also in 6G meta, I hated how landorus-T had over 50% usage in OU, I wished it got banned because it was both too versatile and meta defining, but people kept saying he was fine. Another example is zygarde: he got banned because of thousand arrows, but I wished they just banned the move and not the pokemon.
    Sure after all, all these decisions can't appeal everyone, but since it's a take or go, I left.

    • @SleepyDonnnn
      @SleepyDonnnn 2 роки тому

      Yeah lando t is fine due to how many pokemon can still destroy it like buzzwole, urshifu, tapu fini etc. The biggest issue is that it doesnt have any good recovery meaning you can chip away at it pretty fast

  • @Xephyra
    @Xephyra 2 роки тому

    Man this tier is so damn cool
    Also great video! Thanks freezing!

  • @notshockwavedemon7543
    @notshockwavedemon7543 Рік тому +1

    Dragonite Aerilate Extremespeed
    Yeah that sounds OP

  • @littlegeek5159
    @littlegeek5159 2 роки тому +8

    Weavile has always been a very powerful pokemon with an unfortunate movepool and defensive typing. If those issues are fixed it immediately becomes a huge threat; see gen 6 AAA or, for that matter, SwSh OU.

    • @The_Lightless
      @The_Lightless 2 роки тому +7

      Glad u said SwSh OU. Weavile is easily one of the strongest picks rn.

    • @kingforever5277
      @kingforever5277 2 роки тому

      It's the best swsh ou physical atker atm

    • @The_Lightless
      @The_Lightless 2 роки тому +1

      @@kingforever5277 doesn’t it only lose to defensive buzzwole

  • @markovgamingjaegernaut6471
    @markovgamingjaegernaut6471 2 роки тому +1

    I found Shedinja being banned until I thought of sturdy ...

  • @chessie2003
    @chessie2003 2 роки тому +4

    Hi Freezai, love your videos! If I can make a small comment, triage is usually pronounced TREE-ahj.

  • @bluemew22
    @bluemew22 2 роки тому +1

    Honestly... Regigigas could be allowed in even if he was the only Pokemon that got to use whatever ability. His stats aren't THAT high.

  • @hydrathermal9030
    @hydrathermal9030 2 роки тому

    This really comes to show how one small change can drastically change how good a Pokémon is.

  • @AshenDust_
    @AshenDust_ 2 роки тому +13

    Couldn’t Melmetal run Technician over Steelworker to get strong Rock Tombs and Brutal Swings?

    • @ayo-whats-this
      @ayo-whats-this 2 роки тому +5

      I was thinking the same thing. You still get technician on double iron bash right?

    • @cooldude6269
      @cooldude6269 2 роки тому +2

      Banned mon :/

  • @NICOCLASH
    @NICOCLASH 2 роки тому

    6:18 The only time I saw someone using legitimately Noivern as a tech for some team was me before the crown tundra dlc in sword's battlespot, and I chose it over dragapult despite being overall inferior just to win some match-ups with Airstream (a stab airstream which at the time I thought that it was a HUGE plus over dragapult), Tailwind and no dark weakness against specifically Grimmsnarl, Malamar and later in the Isle of armor, Incineroar

  • @sayaztv
    @sayaztv 2 роки тому +1

    I want to see a list with the most drastic tier shifts some mons had between gen or mid gen releases.

  • @tongagaming3446
    @tongagaming3446 2 роки тому

    6:18 STAB BOOMBURST knew it coming

  • @MasterArchfiend
    @MasterArchfiend Рік тому +1

    Well I still to prefer my Melmetal to have Iron Fist. I like making boxing teams and of course I am foaming at the current unavailability of Hitmonchan in SV.

  • @blortorglethegreat3868
    @blortorglethegreat3868 2 роки тому +1

    This video just convinced me that there's good reason none of these exist in base games.

  • @nicktheninja3166
    @nicktheninja3166 2 роки тому +1

    I think alohan Raichu could be a sleep hitter, if soul heart isn't banned, it has insane coverage and is speedy, so a moveset like:
    Timid, 252 speed, 252 sp.att @focus sash/life orb, soul heart
    Agility
    Thundershock
    Psyshock
    Surf
    I feel like he was kinda strong in gen7 ou, he has the kit if being fast and access to nasty plot and psyshock ruining spec walls, dunno how that would translate to AAA, but feel free to try if ya wanna ^^

    • @theopieters1971
      @theopieters1971 2 роки тому +1

      Problem is that there are a lot of triage mons used, most of these run leech life wich OHKO's alolan raichu, also I use a prankster drampa with nature's power and specs and he OHKO's as well

  • @nicmalugin9287
    @nicmalugin9287 Рік тому

    Based on the title I can tell you why wyverns banned bommburst and aerialite means stab 1.2 boomburst with tailwind set up means that with scarf or specs it’s a op sweeper

  • @JaceGarrdok
    @JaceGarrdok 2 роки тому +1

    oh wow, there's a metagame where Cobalion is popular and good? this warms my heart

  • @lagspike7763
    @lagspike7763 2 роки тому +1

    Mamo is a top AAA Mon? Might have to check it out ngl

  • @golderzoa
    @golderzoa 2 роки тому +4

    been meaning to try this metagame but it's probably riddled with bs like most of them i'll prolly stick to lower tiers and meming in OU and Little cup

  • @dankeykang8243
    @dankeykang8243 2 роки тому +2

    I wonder how aerilate Noivern would work in regular OU