Classic Westerns Ignored by the Oscars for Best Picture
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Back when the Oscars had meaning and was a recognised authority in cinema. To be recognized was a game changer for actors, directors and all those involved in the movie making process. Careers were made and failed based on an Oscar nomination or win. Today we will take a look at some westerns that for whatever reason, despite being superior movies were overlooked.
Despite the many westerns made over the last century. Only these three classic Westerns - 1931’s “Cimarron,” 1990’s “Dances with Wolves” and 1992’s “Unforgiven” - and one contemporary Western (2007’s “No Country for Old Men”) have won the Best Picture Oscar.
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The Searchers is the greatest Western film ever. The Oscars committee was out to lunch on passing this masterpiece up without a single nomination.
And it's even more incredible if you see who was nominated that year for best film, best actor, best adapted screenplay and color photography. Looks like a bad joke.
Some guy named Steven Spielberg said that the Searchers was the best movie ever made. And the host asked "Don't you mean best western?"
And Spielberg said, "no, best movie."
Hi, ..., It's in my ( Top 10 ) for Western movies... "Semper Fi" Mike in Montana :)
You guys are missing the entire point. The Academy hated John Wayne because of his politics, and because of the image he portrayed in his movies.. The Academy hates westerns unless they don’t depart from the conventions of the genre.
I urge all of you to read a book by Robert Warshow called the immediate experience. There are two essays in that book that explain the conventions of the western and the conventions of the gangster film. If you read these asses, you will see why liberals hate those genre films.
Why is it that the liberals loved Henry Fonda and the grapes of wrath and ignored him when he appeared in Fort Apache and my darling Clementine? It was because of the subject matter.
I might have added The Outlaw Josie Wales. I think it's a better film than Unforgiven. A man starts out with a family goes through hell and comes out on the other side with a new family. Critics at the time hated Eastwood, especially Pauline Kael.
I know its off point, but she hated Star Wars as well. Called it "a mindless, war movie".
Agreed wholeheartedly. Definitely Clint’s best Western.
A great movie indeed
"Back when the Oscars had meaning......." what an absolutely TRUE statement, before the "woke" era. Yeah, there were politics and studio money involved then, but westerns were historically overlooked by the Academy, especially for original music score (and early Bond films too) and best picture. Like Elmer Bernstein received 14 Academy Award nominations and was nominated at least once per decade from the 1950s until the 2000s, but his only win was for Thoroughly Modern Millie for Best Original Music Score. And Leone westerns never got nominated for anything, not even for foreign film; The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is the highest rated film on worldwide IMDB to have zero nominations.
Both Leone and Morricone got snubbed by the Academy. Even today they would be snubbed by the sham that the Academy ahs become. GBU and OUATITW are deserving of Academy awards, but to Follywood they were just cheap foreign made westerns. If they had been American films each would have had several nominations. As for GBU being a foreign film nominee it would have had to have an Italian language release in the USA. A separate category for foreign film was introduced in 1956. "Z" was the first film ever to be nominated for both Best Picture and Best Foreign Film as it was releases in French and English versions at the theaters.
Most of these pictures were produced by the smaller studios that had little influence with the Academy!
Except Red river. All the others were movies from big studios. Three from Warner and the other from Fox.
Red River was a viable option. Snubbed of course. Butch and Sundance great aesthetically but The Wild Bunch had tons of grit. Should have been on the radar.
All on list are on my 'Gotta watch it List'.
Add Tombstone (1993) Val Kilmer should have been nominated for Supporting.
Every one of the main people should have. Powers Boothe never gets any attention but he was awesome as Curly Bill.
Dead right.
I always liked Boothe
John Wayne’s Oscar for True Grit was in reality given for his performance in The Searchers that the Academy had failed to recognize.
Rio Lobo is my favorite western, it didn't get very good reviews but I think it's one of the best westerns of the 70's
No mention of Warren Oates in Wild Bunch summary, 😢
The Western sadly has been so overlooked when it comes to Oscars. This list is very worthy and includes what are, in my humble opinion,the two greatest Westerns ever made - The Searchers and The Wild Bunch.
And so many more
The man who killed liberty Valens ,Oscar for John Wayne ,had all the factors that Casablanca had
Westerns had great stories and well written dialogue
Clementiine is putr poetry frame by frame
I agree Red River and The Searchers should have received Oscar nominations for Best Picture and Best Director. The latter should have won in both categories with only The Ten Commandments coming the closest to being as great and is the best Western ever made. Rio Bravo could have had nominations in these categories, but most of the other films so nominated were better. I do not view My Darling Clementine and The Wild Bunch being worthy of Oscar consideration.
My Darling Clementine is only kept afloat by Victor Mature's fine performance as Doc Holliday. The script is totally contrived and woefully inaccurate historically about real people. Doc Holliday was a dentist, not a surgeon and didn't need trying to save Linda Darnell's life as a motivation to join the Earps at the O.K. Corral. The two main women's parts in the film are completely superfluous and Alan Mowbray's appearance is nothing but padded fluff. I didn't appreciate the "visually stunning" Monument Valley nearly as much as I do in John Ford's The Searchers or Stagecoach. It also needed to take place in a more fully realized town setting on a backlot instead of Ford's half-hearted reconstruction in Monument Valley. As for The Wild Bunch all it has is two gorefests at the beginning and end with little of substance in between. Only Robert Ryan brings any semblance of class to that film.
absolutely. add warlock, garrett and the kid, mccabe...
Some of those years were tough competition, both from an artistic, cultural and emotional standpoint. Cases in point:
1. 1946 My Darling Clementine was up against the emotional postwar adjustment masterpiece, The Best Years of Our Lives. People wanted closure; this film gave it to them.
2. 1948 Red River. Hollywood likes to pat itself on the back for cultural and artistic excellence. It did so with Hamlet.
3. 1956 The Searchers. You've heard of a Bridge Too Far, this was a Western too soon. People weren't ready for a gritty John Wayne antagonist. They wanted fluff and humor, hence Around the World in 80 Days.
4. 1959 Rio Bravo. No cause for complaint here. While well done and enjoyable, it cannot hold a candle to Ben-Hur.
5. 1969 Er, not '67 :) The Wild Bunch again was a nihilistic vehicle ahead of its time. And give Hollywood some credit, they nominated Butch Cassidy etc, and the winner had Cowboy in the title (Midnight Cowboy ) :)
Midnight Cowboy. Not even an option.
In 1949, Hamlet was up against The Treasure of Sierra Madre, which in my opinion was a modern western just in Mexico. A hell of a lot better than Hamlet. Same thing goes for 1946's My Darling Clementine - the entry for the Oscar contenders were all over the place and most of them very forgettable. It shoulda been in there. I would have put up The Searchers against The Bridge in 1956. As for Rio Bravo, as popular as it is, it was then and still is, an Oater.
Good analysis on why these films were not successful at the Oscars.
Good point, nice to see a nomination at least? I get your point.
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Glad you enjoyed it
Great list, Agree "Back when the Oscar had meaning". The Academy first changed to a 'good ol' boys home', to a political soap box, to the woke leftist mess it is today.
Politics ruins everything
Wrangler, thank you. Westerns were considered low brow cinema for the commoner and your review proves the elitism that still holds court in the industry…westerns just aren’t “art”
Thanks
The wild bunch was a great movie, as well as the other you mentioned.
Strangely didn't have a good initial critical acceptance
Shane should be best picture.
Indeed
Too bad you didn't include the movies that won in the years that these pictures were made
eleased.
Far more Oscar winners than not, were complete failures at the box office.
While they may have met the Academy Committees rules, many of them are pure snooze fests.
The Academy's rules now means that most of them will be unwatchable wokeness.
The Academy is now just a Clown Show.
Yes, not relevant any more
Have you ever wondered why genre films don’t win Academy Awards? The Academy consists of liberals. Liberals hate genre films. Shannara films have certain conventions in terms of what’s going to happen in the plot. This is what audiences want to happen.
But liberals don’t like those plot conventions. They claim that they’re predictable, so why bother to watch them. They hate westerns and musicals the most. They hate musicals because they claim that in real life people don’t break into song and dance numbers .
They hate westerns unless they are parodies of westerns - or unless they are revisionist westerns that are sensitive to native Americans. Like dances with wolves
The parities that occur to me are cat Ballou and the rooster Cogburn movies with John Wayne.
I’m 74 years old and this is been my experience for my entire life.
i'm a liberal. shut the hell up.
Too much John Wayne.
Get real. Your AI generated content contradicts your claim "back when the Oscars had meaning", essentially because you criticize past winners and losers back when America, and the Academy Awards, were supposedly great. The Oscars are just a Hollywood ad racket, always were, always will be, just like UA-cam content. There are differing opinions about what being a superior movie is.
Why does this AI generated video choose to use a British voice when highlighting the American West? The Oscars is an industry popularity contest anyway and for the last 40 years tied to Marxist politics. The greatest western was The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.
Not AI. And the voice is Australian, not British.
I disliked RED RIVER immensely! John Wayne was a villain. His men turned against him. The ending was a disaster!
I too was not impressed by The Searchers! Over-rated imo