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Steve's key takeaway here is the best advice that I know of for language learning. Do what you enjoy and that which you will keep doing. I personally hate flash cards because I find the process boring, uninteresting and without context not very helpful for me. So I don't use them. But I know people who swear by them. I like to do lots of extensive reading. I find studying texts intensively to be a chore. But I know people who love the detailed study. A corollary to Steve's takeaway might be, try a lot of different methods and find the ones that work for you.
I have used Anki self-made flashcards with great success to break me into Spanish. After the 1st 3000 or so words learned, I switched to LingQ to further my vocabulary. Great mixture. Where it is also very good is with specific things you struggle with. For example, with numbers and with difficult prepositions. One typically does not get enough exposure to numbers naturally, and yet they are super important. There is really no rule that says one should use only one approach. Multiple angles of attack are good.
We learn languages through repetition and patterns, SRS does a good job especially in the beginning of giving learners a steady flow of repeated words to build up their comprehension. Once a learner knows about 1000 common words, they have the basic tools needed to understand communication. At that point immersion and comprehensible input start to be more effective to learn the rest of the language through context instead of isolated word exposure which is a bit unnatural. Like he mentioned in the video though, it can be a good tool later on to practice specific terms, rare words, or even dialectal words and slang you might find useful to know later. Personally, I like finding words I didn't understand in songs or TV shows along with the phrases those words were in to add to my Anki deck so I can understand it better the next time I rewatch or relisten. It's really fun with music as the songs are short and easy to listen to many times until I can understand the lyrics.
We need only 100 to 200 isolated words at the beginning. Then we need isolated sentences up to 1000 to 2000 words in our vocabulary. And then we need short stories (text and speech). The average difficulty level has to be about 105% of our current level (several new words a day and several new patterns a month).
For me, I do a thing called "Sentence Mining" Which is basically making flashcards from the things I'm reading for SRS. The SRS review in anki is more to remind me of the instance that I encountered the word and less about learning the word itself, as that's what I do when I make the card. I find it beneficial if for nothing else it gives me a library of words that is trackable that I know, similar to the way Linq tracks words, in a way. It helps me with reading consistantly which is nice.
Do you use any context or just add a single word by itself? The problem with the second approach, is that I can only remember "the instance where I've encountered the word" for a limited time, and that it becomes just a usual "meaningless" word, and drilling such words seems boring. The problem with the first one, is that it's difficult and time-consuming to create such cards. Also even if I add a screenshot with a sentence, I can sometimes forget what was the meaning of it outside of a bigger context.
@@KnightOfEternity13 I use both strategies depending on what I need. It's no use creating a card with a word that has only one very specific meaning and using a sentence for it. But a lot of words have multiple, sometimes quite different meanings depending on context, so you use sentences. I also use cards with just audio for example. It really depends on what you need
@@KnightOfEternity13 I pull out entire sentences with only one unknown word in them, and on my Anki cards I always list a source for where I got that information to help jumpstart my memory. I have also been adding an image when appropriate, although I'm not 100% sure its worth the effort to add images yet I use ebooks and highlight the sentence as a go, but don't stop and make the card until afterwards. When I'm making the cards I just copy the text, and add a definition for the word on the back, and then copy and paste the source for one card to the next. Making one card usually takes between 30 seconds to a minute
I think the point of the gradually expanding intervals in SRS is not that it helps you learn those particular words better, but that increasing the intervals frees up time to add in new words. If the intervals never get larger, you'd never able to add new cards in.
The main reason to use SRS system is because, in my experience, when you use that in correct manner ( I + 1 ) the number one means a word you don’t know, after few reviews these words you don’t know, some special things happen in your brain, when you see a unknown word in your immersion (tv show, UA-cam, etc ) which you saw it in SRS it’s like something locked becomes unlocked at that exact moment in your mind. So, after that, you start seeing these words many times. Then that process is when you acquire a word.
For learning Finnish, I've found SRS to be a cornerstone of my learning process. Unfortunately there's not a lot of interesting and comprehensible input materials when compared to other languages such as Spanish, French, German, Japanese, Chinese, ect. My SRS system (Speakly App) helps my brain at least see and hear the word. 8 or even 9 times out of 10, I'm unable to retrieve the word and use it in a conversation after "learning" it. However, after seeing that word and getting a definition and audio clip of it, I know that it is hiding somewhere in my brain, ready to be brought out. Through the process of watching TV, listening to podcasts, reading books and newspaper articles, and having conversations, that word becomes more and more familiar until it finally becomes tacit knowledge.
It is always interesting to hear your views on language learning. Interestingly the great Kató Lomb liked to learn phrases in her target language. I have adopted a similar approach. I am working through your German short stories, and I put key phrases into Anki. That allows me to review the sentences at regular intervals. Having to review them forces me to focus on the structure, and highlights parts that I missed before. It is helping me to gradually learn the basics of the German case system. I don’t find it useful for verbs on their own, many if not most verbs require context to be meaningful. It is very useful for nouns especially the gender. I will check out the paper you reference.
Cher Monsieur, je trouve votre chaîne est un encouragement permanent pour apprendre une nouvelle langue, vos conseils sont comme de l'or en barre. Et ils sont si simples qu'ils en sont révolutionnaires. Merci infiniment.
I would add that SRS does not necessitate learning out-of-context. I have 45 000 unique phrases in Chinese (all unique phrases from 80 books that I will read-listen through) in a deck, where each unique phrase is placed in its original sentence. I also have sentence audio, individual word definitions etc. In other words, SRS is at least in principle content agnostic (it can be out-of-context or in-context etc.). I go through potentially thousands of cards each day in a very low effort way (1-5 seconds per card). It does not compete with other forms of learning for me, since I can do it while e.g. listening to audiobooks in German, while walking, during transport, general dead time etc. Interesting facts about SRS that you brought up. One thing I have noticed while studying Vietnamese words (12 000 unique phrases at this point), is that SRS will not descriminate based on frequency of occurence. So when I go to read sentences or a text, my brain's sense of word frequency is not well training (because I have roughly equal exposure to words regardless of frequency). Reading extensively or semi-extensively (like LingQ) I think allows the brain to really get a good sense of collocations, i.e. prior/probability of certain words appearing in certain contexts or in general.
@@ПетърАлександров-л8с Currently around 30 minutes. Historically I have done max 60 minutes of singletasking in Anki per day, and 30-120 minutes of Anki while doing something else (walking, listening to/watching something etc.).
I differentiate between static and dynamic spaced repetition. Dynamic is like Anki, which recalculate your repetition time accordingly your success with recall the word. I like to use static spaced repetition exactly for comprehensible input materials where you just simply want to review the same video for 3-4-5 times. This repeted exposure is extremely efficient and neglected. Spaced Input app is amazing for this, 1. you can choose your own review schedule 2. the to-do's are interactive, you tap the to-do and it brings up the app you saved the link from. I use Anki as well. Whenever a card becomes a ,,leech" I just put another context, another ,,fill-in-the-gap" sentence on the card for having a different view, a different context for the same word. Usually this little trick ,,kill the leech" :D I can recall these cards so much easier. I think it's because I deal a little bit more with the word. It brings me out of this robotic review-mode and of course I have more neurons to fire when I see the card.
In my experience and my opinion I think that the flashcards are a little boring to me, but I found them useful so I often use them. thanks steve, for your wisdom.
Of coure I agree with everything Steve says. This is just an added thought. SRS is a good tool for remembering things you know, but it does not teach you anything. If I didn't know it on Thursday, I still don't know it on Friday. A student needs some other method for initially learning each item. After that is done, the repeated testing of SRS might help in the transition from "seeing a symbol and remembing its mnemonic" (もis a fishhook and MOE goes fishing) to "seeing a symbol and knowing the sound" (も is MO).
SRS is just a method of demonstrating information. It is absolutely possible to develop an app that can teach you through SRS. Language is a combination of words (meanings) and patterns (syntax). We can use SRS to learn patterns through input and output.
I don't agree actually. It can work well to create some automaticity by connections being strengthened or weakened on passing the card or not and of course if you fail it you meet it fairly soon afterwards.
As a beginner, I usually use to SRS. At first, we need to know "a pack words" and, for me, at the beginning of the journey is a memorization process, then some time after we can understand some structure, perceive new words. If I only listening, It would is too hard for me. But I agree that spend much time with SRS is no good. Now, after one year studying, I waste 10-15 minutes to review and speak 70 cards.
@@اللهمإنياحاولفاعني-ع8ر (spaced repetition system) a software that help you... like Anki. It works like a deck, where you write a question, some audio, picture in front of card and the answer in back.
Spaced repetition is kind of a silly term, because all repetition is spaced. What they mean is more like intelligently spaced repetition. I think the point is to save time by skipping words you already know. Which is wonderful in theory, but I don't know if that happens in practice.
Good point are made - particularly the part about consistent repeat rather spaceout It took me 3-4 month to remember n4 kanji, and review n5 kanji a while ago Now i set in place my learning materials(best tools for srs, example sentence reading, writing characters on phone, some character parts learning) for 2-3 hours a day I think the last method is going to fold 2-3 times first observed time for more number of complex kanji as n3 First method consisted of agresive digging into writing kanji, it made my even hour of learning stressful kinda
Before i didn't know that people that counting on flash cards to learn English, i did that as an elementary school student, but it turns out, that is not the best thing to do. I did use google translator when i don't know the meaning of the words but i never use it over and over, yes we have plans to say something in languange that we are learning we should have a plant to say to tell or to disscuss about certain topics that we will disscuss on our group where people can disscuss or talk about on that group. There you have it guys, we should have a plan our life.😊
So what would you say is the best approach to learn those "rarer" words, which can appear only twice in a certain book? I've never found any use to SRS systems to learn most frequent words, because they're, well, frequent, so will be learned eventually anyway. For some specialised vocabulary you can probably benefit from reading a textbook in the related field. But what about the more rare vocabulary (beyond the first 5000), which mostly appears in fiction? That's what I'm currently struggling with in Japanese, being unable to move beyond C1 for years. What's worse is that a large part of my favourite content comes from video games, so I can't even use Lingq with it. What approach do you recommend? Should I try to write some words I like into a notebook and review it from time to time? Use any SRS system (I don't really enjoy it for the reasons you've described in the video)? Make some screenshots from games and go through the whole sentences later? Just do nothing and keep reading, hoping that the words will eventually stick? Btw, my reading speed in Japanese is still significantly slower than in English for some reasons, probably, not limited to the vocabulary. Could it be that my small vocabulary is not a core problem, but more like a sign that I need even more exposure to the language itself?
I learned about this method from a fellow who does the following: He gathers a collection of words and feeds them to ChatGPT. Then, he tasks ChatGPT with creating a story that incorporates those words. Afterward, he takes the resulting story and turns it into a flashcard. Instead of reviewing individual words, he reviews the flashcard containing the story. This method goes beyond the conventional approach and proves to be quite effective.
The notebook seems to be a good way to learn vocabulary. If you want to know more about how to use it, you should watch Luca Lampariello's video called "How to memorize THOUSANDS of words in any foreign Language". About rare words that you cannot memorize, maybe: - there is no point to learn them if they are that much rare? - you should play much more similar games (or read or listen to other contents like books) where you can find those rare words (if you enjoy those games, of course)? Word's rarity is somewhat relative. For example, in Japanese, a word like 懺悔室 (confessional) is supposed to be rare in daily life (so is the first kanji of this word which is not usual at all, this is not a "Jôyô Kanji"). But if you read a lot of contents about Christianity, or fictional religion inspired by Christianity (in my case, I have read this word in a Japanese game called Harvestella, with many quests inside a somewhat church and speaking about confessional, so this word is repeated very often in this game), you will definitely find again such a word much more often. Speaking of playing games to learn Japanese, I think the adventure games, especially the Visual Novels, are the most suitable because text's density is very high (but some RPG with many text to read are very suitable too).
You don't have a lack of humor.The C1 level is quite good, even not all native speakers reach this level. Of course your reading speed in English is much faster, because you don't need to read every word in its full form, it's enough for you to read words like do, to and the as d, t and th.
My current technique is to add any words I encounter to Anki. I have altered the settings though. I think I encounter the new word in 4 then 30 days. If I fail the card I see it in a few weeks then months then it stretches out to more than a year up to 2 years. If I add a word and it is already in Anki then I either reverse the language direction, add an altered meaning or a phrase with it in and learn that. If of course you encounter the word in real life across these time frames then the word will be well cemented. I don't think you need a lot of review to start to grasp a word, in the main. Physical approaches probably work just as well. Notebooks, physical flashcards etc.
I've been doing this (unintentionally). I will say I believe my ability and speed to recall things is relatively better. I'm practicing Spanish and French. This is the first I've heard of SRS.
The only place where I've used an SRS system successfully is for getting kana to stick (I learned Hiragana first, and Katakana later, a mistake - I should have learned both at the same time), and got somewhat confused when I began learning Katakana and had trouble with some of it. An app called Kana Mind, which is SRS, helped me with that. For anything else (just about anything and everything people use Anki for) I find it horribly tedious and boring after a while, I can't keep it up. And boring == not learning anything useful as far as languages are concerned. Now my "SRS" is whatever I encounter again and again while reading or listening to "comprehensible *interesting* input". And everything is way way way better than it ever was with Anki.
I recently used an SRS system (DuoLingo) for re-learning the Hiragana and Katakana. It was useful for that, though I still forget. A couple years ago I tried using ANKI in depth (wtih pre-made decks) for studying Chinese. It was useless.
I started using WaniKani for learning Japanese kanji about a month and a half ago. I already have years of exposure to the language through listening, so the lack of context isn't really a problem; I memorize the characters by making a mental note of words they appear in, and then try to remember those words whenever the character comes up. For the few rares cases of kanji that very rarely show up on their own, I just default to WaniKani's mnemonics or think of my own. I do also read on the side whenever I run into something interesting, as ultimately the whole SRS process is just a means to the end of being able to read Japanese without having to look up kanji every 5 seconds. This helps me pick up common characters that haven't come up in the SRS yet, test if I can actually recognize the characters in the wild, and get a feel for the general progress of my reading skills, which helps me maintain motivation. Once I get to around 1000 known kanji, I expect to move to mostly reading.
I think the average of 30 seconds per flashcard that Chat GPT came up with might be based on data that is inflated by people who go idle while in the middle of reviewing a deck of flashcards. People who are actively reviewing probably do spend, on average, about 3 seconds on a flashcard. I imagine that people getting up to fetch a glass of water or to do something else, while leaving their spaced repetition program open, has greatly increased the recorded average for those programs.
I made my own app to study by wordmining in audio or video podcasts. In a first run I mark the words, which I don’t understand and translate them (same as in LingQ). In occasions, when I have time to listen (e. g. Public transport or bicycle), the app shows me the word with translation at the moment, when it appears in the audio or video. Since I understand already a certain amount of words, the brain is waiting for the translation to get a better understanding of the text. I listen sometimes several times the audio and the comprehension improves. The only challenge is to find content with transcription, which is interesting and the amount of unknown words is reasonable. It can be that I mark the same word several times inside of one audio or on several audios. So the only active work is marking and translating the words. Listening is passiv and I can do it at anytime. I wanted to study Russian and frustrated using anki. Nouns or adjectives were more or less easy to remember but at verbs I failed. Additionally repeating words is so boring. That was the point, when I switched my method. Unfortunately there was no app available with this possibility and I had to develop my own.
I am studying Russian and apply the Leitner -system. I find it very helpfull. But in my experience no memory system is useful, if ou do not complement it with reading, listening and conversation. For me the spacing is te determinating point. I felt tis even before I knew this system, You have to forget to remember..
Hi, I recently watched one of your videos on pronunciation and 1) I was pretty impressed by the video, 2) I have one question about what technique you used to learn the pronunciation of not one, but multiple languages. I find myself influenced not only by my native language but also by the other languages I learn. I attend a French bilingual school and especially after intense classes, I am not really able to switch to e.g. English (which is a foreign language in my case). Moreover, I feel like both my English and German pronunciation slowly decline over time, as more and more French and my native language seep in. Do you have some advice on how to tackle the problem? Thank you :)
I really liked the video. By the way, I like watching your videos. I'm a big fan of ANKI and in my opinion the flashcard system has worked well. However, I know that for many people the flashcard system doesn't work.
I still create Anki cards, but I ceased to space-repeat them long ago. The reason is that if a word was met in one context only, you forget it for sure, no matter how long (how many times) you have repeated it. But I use Anki in order to check out if I have met a word before. Interesting things happen: I think I see a word the first time but my Anki collection has this word from another story already E,g. Turkish word kıymık. I am reading Stephen King now: Ahşabı parçaladığında kıymıklar koluna batmış ama hepsi bu. // ahşap \ kıymık Splinters stuck to his arm when it (the bullet) chipped the wood, but that's it. // wood \ splinter But I have met the word kıymık - splinter earlier: Birkaç kıymığın tuttuğu ucu // kıymık The end held by a few splinters // splinter Kolu şimdi sanki büyük kıymıklarla doluymuş gibiydi. // kıymık It was as if his arm was now filled with large splinters. // splinter (from Harry Potter)
That’s expected. Actually recognizing that you have already met some word before is a first step toward remembering it. Btw, I use a somewhat similar method to yours now. I have an app which lets me to mine sentences and create cards from the book I read. In the end of the session I just reread these mined phrases trying to understand what was the role of a "target" word in them, and do it once more on the next day. It feels too much a chore to drill them deliberately using SRS and I don't want to read less just to not be overwhelmed by card reviews.
SRSs are most useful when you start learning a language and you need a small set of common words for assembling some sentences and seeing how to use the grammar. Later, they are a lot less useful and can quickly become boring. I used a few of these systems (Memrise, Brainscape, Drops, Quizlet and Anki) with a few different languages (English, French, German, Japanese, Russian and Korean) and I have no problem suggesting any of them to almost any kind of language learner. Just do not think a SRS *alone* can teach you a language...
Even if it's useful, if it's done in the way that Anki does it aka just flash cards, then I won't do it. No matter how many times I've tried to use it, I just hate it's interface and the material just doesn't stick. Not to mention, for the language I primarily use it for, Japanese, the decks I find are also just so unfriendly to beginners. They just throw full sentences with Kanji at you constantly. It wouldn't be a problem if there were decks out there that are like bare bones basic vocabulary but those seem so hard to find. But for a language like Spanish, I've had better success with Anki. Still not as much as other methods, but enough that I'll occasionally open up Anki for some review.
Why is the video so jumpy like it's been heavily edited by cutting out minute segments? Not very enjoyable to watch or listen to. Keep it raw please Mr Editor.
I think deiberate learning of vocabulary is OK. But I don't think SRS is quite right. Here is why I think this. I think you learn words to be able to not be thrown when meeting them in the wild. If one isn't meeing them in the wild, you don't really need them . If you meet the word in the real world then that is the SRS you need. Everyone's needs vary of course. But I don't think we need to keep learning all the words we know. Once a word is learned if we meet it in a context it will start to make sense and grow naturally. I'm not against an SRS of between 5-10 times (say) for a new word. But then stop. By the time you are cconsuming authentic language you are either meeting the word in which case it will slot into place or you're not. In that case you might still recognise it if you encounter it. So for me personally I am looking for a 5-10 encounters then the word gets retired. And I do use Anki and thre are some things you can do to improve it, like lengthening the periods and so on. If you don't do these adaptations Anki becomes very burdensome. I did toy with the idea of doing flashcards (physical), go through the stock and get rid of the card once successfully recognised and just keep going until there's nothing there and then start again. I think the software for SRS like Anki is useful but the theory behind it is dubious. That is the idea you are naturally fogetting everything. For one thing for native speakers their vocab is going up approximately 1,000 a year at its height with no deliberate acquisition whatever so with exposure to language you will revise what you know and add new words. Some people have a taboo on looking up - I don't but in any case your vocab is not going to go down when you are consuming authentic materials of whatever level, it can only go up. So really I want to have a flashcard software that retires a word once you got it, say, 10 times, into a folder. Exceptions to the above - (just for my purposes) - I have a nice deck of German genders and find this quite useful. I would do cards for unusual plurals (they do exist). I had a deck for irregular verbs and then deleted it a while back when I'd really completed the deck. And I think it can be useful for items of specialist knowledge eg medical terminology etc.
I really prefered when you did not cut away all microbits of silence in your videos. There was enough breathing space and naturalness. Now it's like crammed box full of noise.
Yeah, I don't know that I've ever heard of anyone saying that only SRS is the way to learn a language. While I like the info in this video, I feel like we're setting up a straw man and arguing against a point no one is making. Like, we're arguing against an SRS being "enough" (my word, note Steve's), but...no one is saying it is. It's a single tool that fits into a bigger model. Or am I missing something? Appreciate Steve pointing out SRS can fit into the overall model, though. Lotta people out there attacking the low-hanging fruit. "dUoLiNgO cAn'T mAkE yOu FlUeNt". Literally no one says it does...
It's more about the fact that it's easy to spend a ton of time on SRS systems like Anki (been there, done that) which would be much better spent on other language-related things. As for Duolingo, the same thing can be said about that. All the time I spent there only slowed down my Japanese learning to a crawl and I deeply regret the time wasted on Duo. Now I don't do any of that, I focus on input and real language, and that's what I should have concentrated on all the time. About the efficiency of SRS in general, I guess it's somewhat individual. As I said in another comment, SRS only worked successfully for me for cementing my Hiragana/Katakana, but that's because for this you actually have all the associations needed right there - sound to symbol, symbol to sound. For vocabulary memorized through SRS there's no associative thread, broadly speaking. Which makes it hard to actually make use of for the language when you need it (stuff I've leaned via memorization simply isn't there for me when the context is different).
@@memorychatai as for repetition itself ; as i am a rtg and a eto oficer , so learn all the time , read two or three times one lection in case of dificulty , then second time in the evening . If it is not enought , three times a day . I do the same tomorow .if it is not yet done i conitinue for a week or a month . But i never repeat , like ten of times in first reading but make pause in time . My view is that brain works on it while we sleeping and do other thing .
@@memorychatai postovani gospodine .da vam odgovorim.na srpsko hrvatskom. Moja zapazanja su ista kao vasa .stvar je u tome da se neponavlja zaredom 10 puta vec vec 1-2-3 puta pa vremenski razmak 7 sati drugi put , pa opet za sedam sati treci put.ta vremenska pauza je presudna ! Kada ucim jezike meni jos na to kasetofon radi 0-24 mesec dana bez gasenja " auto rewerse " i nocu i danju , uz pracenje sa knjigom 2-3 puta dnevno. Nikad vise ne citam od 30-45 minuta jedno pracenje! Da je krace bo bi bolje ! Tako predjem cu knjigu assimil italijanski, nemacki za mesec dana .radim prvo nemacki pola sata pa italijanski pola sata tri puta na dan. Rezultati su super . Slicnu metodu primenjujem za studiranje elektrotehnike , matematike, fizike . Samo je stvar u ponavljanju jer kad se odmarate podsvest radi na tom problemu !!! Izvinite na duzini . Pozz.
@@АлександарЈовановић-ъ6н Thanks for sharing such a detailed and interesting approach! I love how you’ve integrated spaced repetition with breaks and shorter sessions-it’s a great way to tackle tough subjects like languages and engineering. I totally agree that those pauses make all the difference in letting the brain work on the problem subconsciously. It’s really cool to see the different ways people apply these techniques!
Why do you consider flash cards devoid of context, when they often include audio, images and entire sentences and from material that the learner has prior familiarity?
@@putinisakiller8093 So a whole sentence from a scene I am familiar with, with audio of characters I recognize and whose personality I am familiar, including a suggestive memetic image you would describe as "devoid of context".
@@patheticpear2897 Well if your flashcard is as good as you describe it kind of has a context. However, you'd probably eventually forget this scene and what dialog characters were having, "losing" this context. But the other problem is that repeating the same sentence again and again becomes a chore. As Steve said our brain needs a novelty in addition to repetition. At least it's true for mine. After a while it becomes "bored" with the same phrase and "refuses" to remind it. Also is it really worth to repeat bunch of phrases again and again, when you can just reread/rewatch the content you mined them from, after a while?
@@estoy_aprendiendo_espanyol In order to learn a language you should have a few dozen DIFFERENT sentences using the same word in different situations. Maybe even ministories not just sentences. I think you now that one word may have tens of meanings. In many languages many words have several forms.
I don't know if you hired someone to edit the videos but recently it's less interesting to watch. Too many cuts and less natural, it feels robotic. I know you are not a fan of long videos but I think most people would prefer a 20 minutes video that feels more enjoyable to watch than rushing all the content into a shorter one.
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Steve's key takeaway here is the best advice that I know of for language learning. Do what you enjoy and that which you will keep doing. I personally hate flash cards because I find the process boring, uninteresting and without context not very helpful for me. So I don't use them. But I know people who swear by them. I like to do lots of extensive reading. I find studying texts intensively to be a chore. But I know people who love the detailed study. A corollary to Steve's takeaway might be, try a lot of different methods and find the ones that work for you.
I have used Anki self-made flashcards with great success to break me into Spanish. After the 1st 3000 or so words learned, I switched to LingQ to further my vocabulary. Great mixture. Where it is also very good is with specific things you struggle with. For example, with numbers and with difficult prepositions. One typically does not get enough exposure to numbers naturally, and yet they are super important. There is really no rule that says one should use only one approach. Multiple angles of attack are good.
Asimile is the best.
We learn languages through repetition and patterns, SRS does a good job especially in the beginning of giving learners a steady flow of repeated words to build up their comprehension.
Once a learner knows about 1000 common words, they have the basic tools needed to understand communication. At that point immersion and comprehensible input start to be more effective to learn the rest of the language through context instead of isolated word exposure which is a bit unnatural.
Like he mentioned in the video though, it can be a good tool later on to practice specific terms, rare words, or even dialectal words and slang you might find useful to know later.
Personally, I like finding words I didn't understand in songs or TV shows along with the phrases those words were in to add to my Anki deck so I can understand it better the next time I rewatch or relisten. It's really fun with music as the songs are short and easy to listen to many times until I can understand the lyrics.
We need only 100 to 200 isolated words at the beginning. Then we need isolated sentences up to 1000 to 2000 words in our vocabulary. And then we need short stories (text and speech). The average difficulty level has to be about 105% of our current level (several new words a day and several new patterns a month).
For me, I do a thing called "Sentence Mining" Which is basically making flashcards from the things I'm reading for SRS. The SRS review in anki is more to remind me of the instance that I encountered the word and less about learning the word itself, as that's what I do when I make the card. I find it beneficial if for nothing else it gives me a library of words that is trackable that I know, similar to the way Linq tracks words, in a way. It helps me with reading consistantly which is nice.
CIMV?
Do you use any context or just add a single word by itself?
The problem with the second approach, is that I can only remember "the instance where I've encountered the word" for a limited time, and that it becomes just a usual "meaningless" word, and drilling such words seems boring.
The problem with the first one, is that it's difficult and time-consuming to create such cards. Also even if I add a screenshot with a sentence, I can sometimes forget what was the meaning of it outside of a bigger context.
@@KnightOfEternity13 I use both strategies depending on what I need. It's no use creating a card with a word that has only one very specific meaning and using a sentence for it. But a lot of words have multiple, sometimes quite different meanings depending on context, so you use sentences. I also use cards with just audio for example. It really depends on what you need
@@KnightOfEternity13 I pull out entire sentences with only one unknown word in them, and on my Anki cards I always list a source for where I got that information to help jumpstart my memory. I have also been adding an image when appropriate, although I'm not 100% sure its worth the effort to add images yet
I use ebooks and highlight the sentence as a go, but don't stop and make the card until afterwards. When I'm making the cards I just copy the text, and add a definition for the word on the back, and then copy and paste the source for one card to the next. Making one card usually takes between 30 seconds to a minute
And you are a Brazilian who is one of Mairo Vergara's Student?
I think the point of the gradually expanding intervals in SRS is not that it helps you learn those particular words better, but that increasing the intervals frees up time to add in new words. If the intervals never get larger, you'd never able to add new cards in.
The main reason to use SRS system is because, in my experience, when you use that in correct manner ( I + 1 ) the number one means a word you don’t know, after few reviews these words you don’t know, some special things happen in your brain, when you see a unknown word in your immersion (tv show, UA-cam, etc ) which you saw it in SRS it’s like something locked becomes unlocked at that exact moment in your mind. So, after that, you start seeing these words many times. Then that process is when you acquire a word.
For learning Finnish, I've found SRS to be a cornerstone of my learning process. Unfortunately there's not a lot of interesting and comprehensible input materials when compared to other languages such as Spanish, French, German, Japanese, Chinese, ect.
My SRS system (Speakly App) helps my brain at least see and hear the word. 8 or even 9 times out of 10, I'm unable to retrieve the word and use it in a conversation after "learning" it.
However, after seeing that word and getting a definition and audio clip of it, I know that it is hiding somewhere in my brain, ready to be brought out. Through the process of watching TV, listening to podcasts, reading books and newspaper articles, and having conversations, that word becomes more and more familiar until it finally becomes tacit knowledge.
It is always interesting to hear your views on language learning. Interestingly the great Kató Lomb liked to learn phrases in her target language. I have adopted a similar approach. I am working through your German short stories, and I put key phrases into Anki. That allows me to review the sentences at regular intervals. Having to review them forces me to focus on the structure, and highlights parts that I missed before. It is helping me to gradually learn the basics of the German case system. I don’t find it useful for verbs on their own, many if not most verbs require context to be meaningful. It is very useful for nouns especially the gender. I will check out the paper you reference.
Cher Monsieur, je trouve votre chaîne est un encouragement permanent pour apprendre une nouvelle langue, vos conseils sont comme de l'or en barre. Et ils sont si simples qu'ils en sont révolutionnaires. Merci infiniment.
I would add that SRS does not necessitate learning out-of-context. I have 45 000 unique phrases in Chinese (all unique phrases from 80 books that I will read-listen through) in a deck, where each unique phrase is placed in its original sentence. I also have sentence audio, individual word definitions etc. In other words, SRS is at least in principle content agnostic (it can be out-of-context or in-context etc.). I go through potentially thousands of cards each day in a very low effort way (1-5 seconds per card). It does not compete with other forms of learning for me, since I can do it while e.g. listening to audiobooks in German, while walking, during transport, general dead time etc.
Interesting facts about SRS that you brought up. One thing I have noticed while studying Vietnamese words (12 000 unique phrases at this point), is that SRS will not descriminate based on frequency of occurence. So when I go to read sentences or a text, my brain's sense of word frequency is not well training (because I have roughly equal exposure to words regardless of frequency). Reading extensively or semi-extensively (like LingQ) I think allows the brain to really get a good sense of collocations, i.e. prior/probability of certain words appearing in certain contexts or in general.
How much time do you spend doing anki everyday?
@@ПетърАлександров-л8с Currently around 30 minutes. Historically I have done max 60 minutes of singletasking in Anki per day, and 30-120 minutes of Anki while doing something else (walking, listening to/watching something etc.).
I do it at a pace of 10-15 cards per day. It takes me about 30 minutes.@@ПетърАлександров-л8с
I differentiate between static and dynamic spaced repetition.
Dynamic is like Anki, which recalculate your repetition time accordingly your success with recall the word.
I like to use static spaced repetition exactly for comprehensible input materials where you just simply want to review the same video for 3-4-5 times. This repeted exposure is extremely efficient and neglected. Spaced Input app is amazing for this,
1. you can choose your own review schedule
2. the to-do's are interactive, you tap the to-do and it brings up the app you saved the link from.
I use Anki as well. Whenever a card becomes a ,,leech" I just put another context, another ,,fill-in-the-gap" sentence on the card for having a different view, a different context for the same word. Usually this little trick ,,kill the leech" :D I can recall these cards so much easier. I think it's because I deal a little bit more with the word. It brings me out of this robotic review-mode and of course I have more neurons to fire when I see the card.
In my experience and my opinion I think that the flashcards are a little boring to me, but I found them useful so I often use them. thanks steve, for your wisdom.
Of coure I agree with everything Steve says. This is just an added thought. SRS is a good tool for remembering things you know, but it does not teach you anything. If I didn't know it on Thursday, I still don't know it on Friday. A student needs some other method for initially learning each item. After that is done, the repeated testing of SRS might help in the transition from "seeing a symbol and remembing its mnemonic" (もis a fishhook and MOE goes fishing) to "seeing a symbol and knowing the sound" (も is MO).
SRS is just a method of demonstrating information. It is absolutely possible to develop an app that can teach you through SRS.
Language is a combination of words (meanings) and patterns (syntax). We can use SRS to learn patterns through input and output.
I don't agree actually. It can work well to create some automaticity by connections being strengthened or weakened on passing the card or not and of course if you fail it you meet it fairly soon afterwards.
As a beginner, I usually use to SRS. At first, we need to know "a pack words" and, for me, at the beginning of the journey is a memorization process, then some time after we can understand some structure, perceive new words. If I only listening, It would is too hard for me. But I agree that spend much time with SRS is no good. Now, after one year studying, I waste 10-15 minutes to review and speak 70 cards.
What is SRS?
@@اللهمإنياحاولفاعني-ع8ر (spaced repetition system) a software that help you... like Anki. It works like a deck, where you write a question, some audio, picture in front of card and the answer in back.
Spaced repetition is kind of a silly term, because all repetition is spaced. What they mean is more like intelligently spaced repetition. I think the point is to save time by skipping words you already know. Which is wonderful in theory, but I don't know if that happens in practice.
As always, a motivating video!
Many thanks 👍
Good point are made - particularly the part about consistent repeat rather spaceout
It took me 3-4 month to remember n4 kanji, and review n5 kanji a while ago
Now i set in place my learning materials(best tools for srs, example sentence reading, writing characters on phone, some character parts learning) for 2-3 hours a day
I think the last method is going to fold 2-3 times first observed time for more number of complex kanji as n3
First method consisted of agresive digging into writing kanji, it made my even hour of learning stressful kinda
Before i didn't know that people that counting on flash cards to learn English, i did that as an elementary school student, but it turns out, that is not the best thing to do. I did use google translator when i don't know the meaning of the words but i never use it over and over, yes we have plans to say something in languange that we are learning we should have a plant to say to tell or to disscuss about certain topics that we will disscuss on our group where people can disscuss or talk about on that group.
There you have it guys, we should have a plan our life.😊
So what would you say is the best approach to learn those "rarer" words, which can appear only twice in a certain book?
I've never found any use to SRS systems to learn most frequent words, because they're, well, frequent, so will be learned eventually anyway. For some specialised vocabulary you can probably benefit from reading a textbook in the related field.
But what about the more rare vocabulary (beyond the first 5000), which mostly appears in fiction? That's what I'm currently struggling with in Japanese, being unable to move beyond C1 for years. What's worse is that a large part of my favourite content comes from video games, so I can't even use Lingq with it.
What approach do you recommend? Should I try to write some words I like into a notebook and review it from time to time? Use any SRS system (I don't really enjoy it for the reasons you've described in the video)? Make some screenshots from games and go through the whole sentences later? Just do nothing and keep reading, hoping that the words will eventually stick?
Btw, my reading speed in Japanese is still significantly slower than in English for some reasons, probably, not limited to the vocabulary. Could it be that my small vocabulary is not a core problem, but more like a sign that I need even more exposure to the language itself?
I learned about this method from a fellow who does the following: He gathers a collection of words and feeds them to ChatGPT. Then, he tasks ChatGPT with creating a story that incorporates those words. Afterward, he takes the resulting story and turns it into a flashcard. Instead of reviewing individual words, he reviews the flashcard containing the story. This method goes beyond the conventional approach and proves to be quite effective.
The notebook seems to be a good way to learn vocabulary. If you want to know more about how to use it, you should watch Luca Lampariello's video called "How to memorize THOUSANDS of words in any foreign Language".
About rare words that you cannot memorize, maybe:
- there is no point to learn them if they are that much rare?
- you should play much more similar games (or read or listen to other contents like books) where you can find those rare words (if you enjoy those games, of course)?
Word's rarity is somewhat relative. For example, in Japanese, a word like 懺悔室 (confessional) is supposed to be rare in daily life (so is the first kanji of this word which is not usual at all, this is not a "Jôyô Kanji"). But if you read a lot of contents about Christianity, or fictional religion inspired by Christianity (in my case, I have read this word in a Japanese game called Harvestella, with many quests inside a somewhat church and speaking about confessional, so this word is repeated very often in this game), you will definitely find again such a word much more often.
Speaking of playing games to learn Japanese, I think the adventure games, especially the Visual Novels, are the most suitable because text's density is very high (but some RPG with many text to read are very suitable too).
You don't have a lack of humor.The C1 level is quite good, even not all native speakers reach this level.
Of course your reading speed in English is much faster, because you don't need to read every word in its full form, it's enough for you to read words like do, to and the as d, t and th.
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My current technique is to add any words I encounter to Anki. I have altered the settings though. I think I encounter the new word in 4 then 30 days. If I fail the card I see it in a few weeks then months then it stretches out to more than a year up to 2 years.
If I add a word and it is already in Anki then I either reverse the language direction, add an altered meaning or a phrase with it in and learn that.
If of course you encounter the word in real life across these time frames then the word will be well cemented.
I don't think you need a lot of review to start to grasp a word, in the main.
Physical approaches probably work just as well. Notebooks, physical flashcards etc.
I've been doing this (unintentionally). I will say I believe my ability and speed to recall things is relatively better. I'm practicing Spanish and French. This is the first I've heard of SRS.
That is the best video I ever seen! thanks!
The only place where I've used an SRS system successfully is for getting kana to stick (I learned Hiragana first, and Katakana later, a mistake - I should have learned both at the same time), and got somewhat confused when I began learning Katakana and had trouble with some of it. An app called Kana Mind, which is SRS, helped me with that.
For anything else (just about anything and everything people use Anki for) I find it horribly tedious and boring after a while, I can't keep it up. And boring == not learning anything useful as far as languages are concerned. Now my "SRS" is whatever I encounter again and again while reading or listening to "comprehensible *interesting* input". And everything is way way way better than it ever was with Anki.
I recently used an SRS system (DuoLingo) for re-learning the Hiragana and Katakana. It was useful for that, though I still forget. A couple years ago I tried using ANKI in depth (wtih pre-made decks) for studying Chinese. It was useless.
I'm learning english with your videos😁
Thanks for another informative video. I aways enjoy hearing your insights into language learning.
I started using WaniKani for learning Japanese kanji about a month and a half ago. I already have years of exposure to the language through listening, so the lack of context isn't really a problem; I memorize the characters by making a mental note of words they appear in, and then try to remember those words whenever the character comes up. For the few rares cases of kanji that very rarely show up on their own, I just default to WaniKani's mnemonics or think of my own.
I do also read on the side whenever I run into something interesting, as ultimately the whole SRS process is just a means to the end of being able to read Japanese without having to look up kanji every 5 seconds. This helps me pick up common characters that haven't come up in the SRS yet, test if I can actually recognize the characters in the wild, and get a feel for the general progress of my reading skills, which helps me maintain motivation. Once I get to around 1000 known kanji, I expect to move to mostly reading.
have you tried spaced repetition on other things?
I think the average of 30 seconds per flashcard that Chat GPT came up with might be based on data that is inflated by people who go idle while in the middle of reviewing a deck of flashcards. People who are actively reviewing probably do spend, on average, about 3 seconds on a flashcard. I imagine that people getting up to fetch a glass of water or to do something else, while leaving their spaced repetition program open, has greatly increased the recorded average for those programs.
I made my own app to study by wordmining in audio or video podcasts. In a first run I mark the words, which I don’t understand and translate them (same as in LingQ). In occasions, when I have time to listen (e. g. Public transport or bicycle), the app shows me the word with translation at the moment, when it appears in the audio or video. Since I understand already a certain amount of words, the brain is waiting for the translation to get a better understanding of the text. I listen sometimes several times the audio and the comprehension improves. The only challenge is to find content with transcription, which is interesting and the amount of unknown words is reasonable. It can be that I mark the same word several times inside of one audio or on several audios. So the only active work is marking and translating the words. Listening is passiv and I can do it at anytime.
I wanted to study Russian and frustrated using anki. Nouns or adjectives were more or less easy to remember but at verbs I failed. Additionally repeating words is so boring. That was the point, when I switched my method. Unfortunately there was no app available with this possibility and I had to develop my own.
Can you share your app or make it public available?
That would be awesome.
YES! Thank you for this video.
and have you used spaced repetition?;)
I'm able to do 100 words on clozemaster in between 16 and 20 minutes with about a 90% accuracy average.
I am studying Russian and apply the Leitner -system. I find it very helpfull. But in my experience no memory system is useful, if ou do not complement it with reading, listening and conversation. For me the spacing is te determinating point. I felt tis even before I knew this system, You have to forget to remember..
Hi, I recently watched one of your videos on pronunciation and 1) I was pretty impressed by the video, 2) I have one question about what technique you used to learn the pronunciation of not one, but multiple languages.
I find myself influenced not only by my native language but also by the other languages I learn. I attend a French bilingual school and especially after intense classes, I am not really able to switch to e.g. English (which is a foreign language in my case). Moreover, I feel like both my English and German pronunciation slowly decline over time, as more and more French and my native language seep in. Do you have some advice on how to tackle the problem?
Thank you :)
Syntax=structure
Lexical=Semantic=pits and bits
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I really liked the video. By the way, I like watching your videos.
I'm a big fan of ANKI and in my opinion the flashcard system has worked well.
However, I know that for many people the flashcard system doesn't work.
Share please about your achievements using ANKI
How do i find or recognize books at A2 -B1 level?
Those are supposed to children about 6-8 years old. A2 vocabulary is about 4 thousand words, B1 - 8 thousand.
Well I was looking for space repetition in glsl shading language
Anki is good to practice the pronunciation with tts
I still create Anki cards, but I ceased to space-repeat them long ago. The reason is that if a word was met in one context only, you forget it for sure, no matter how long (how many times) you have repeated it.
But I use Anki in order to check out if I have met a word before.
Interesting things happen: I think I see a word the first time but my Anki collection has this word from another story already
E,g. Turkish word kıymık.
I am reading Stephen King now:
Ahşabı parçaladığında kıymıklar koluna batmış ama hepsi bu. // ahşap \ kıymık
Splinters stuck to his arm when it (the bullet) chipped the wood, but that's it. // wood \ splinter
But I have met the word kıymık - splinter earlier:
Birkaç kıymığın tuttuğu ucu // kıymık
The end held by a few splinters // splinter
Kolu şimdi sanki büyük kıymıklarla doluymuş gibiydi. // kıymık
It was as if his arm was now filled with large splinters. // splinter
(from Harry Potter)
That’s expected. Actually recognizing that you have already met some word before is a first step toward remembering it.
Btw, I use a somewhat similar method to yours now. I have an app which lets me to mine sentences and create cards from the book I read. In the end of the session I just reread these mined phrases trying to understand what was the role of a "target" word in them, and do it once more on the next day.
It feels too much a chore to drill them deliberately using SRS and I don't want to read less just to not be overwhelmed by card reviews.
Wonderful! But can we get a normal video without cut pauses? Thank you.
SRSs are most useful when you start learning a language and you need a small set of common words for assembling some sentences and seeing how to use the grammar. Later, they are a lot less useful and can quickly become boring. I used a few of these systems (Memrise, Brainscape, Drops, Quizlet and Anki) with a few different languages (English, French, German, Japanese, Russian and Korean) and I have no problem suggesting any of them to almost any kind of language learner. Just do not think a SRS *alone* can teach you a language...
There is no doubt that Anki works, and I enjoy using it.
What app is is uaed in 12.14 for sentence reviews?
LingQ.com
It works for me
Chat gpt is often wrong it’s crazy
True, now newer models are better and better
Even if it's useful, if it's done in the way that Anki does it aka just flash cards, then I won't do it. No matter how many times I've tried to use it, I just hate it's interface and the material just doesn't stick. Not to mention, for the language I primarily use it for, Japanese, the decks I find are also just so unfriendly to beginners. They just throw full sentences with Kanji at you constantly. It wouldn't be a problem if there were decks out there that are like bare bones basic vocabulary but those seem so hard to find. But for a language like Spanish, I've had better success with Anki. Still not as much as other methods, but enough that I'll occasionally open up Anki for some review.
Shy don’t you build your own beginner deck?
And then share it.
Why is the video so jumpy like it's been heavily edited by cutting out minute segments? Not very enjoyable to watch or listen to. Keep it raw please Mr Editor.
spaced retrieval
make a video about Duolingo
I think deiberate learning of vocabulary is OK. But I don't think SRS is quite right. Here is why I think this. I think you learn words to be able to not be thrown when meeting them in the wild. If one isn't meeing them in the wild, you don't really need them . If you meet the word in the real world then that is the SRS you need.
Everyone's needs vary of course. But I don't think we need to keep learning all the words we know. Once a word is learned if we meet it in a context it will start to make sense and grow naturally.
I'm not against an SRS of between 5-10 times (say) for a new word. But then stop. By the time you are cconsuming authentic language you are either meeting the word in which case it will slot into place or you're not. In that case you might still recognise it if you encounter it.
So for me personally I am looking for a 5-10 encounters then the word gets retired. And I do use Anki and thre are some things you can do to improve it, like lengthening the periods and so on. If you don't do these adaptations Anki becomes very burdensome.
I did toy with the idea of doing flashcards (physical), go through the stock and get rid of the card once successfully recognised and just keep going until there's nothing there and then start again.
I think the software for SRS like Anki is useful but the theory behind it is dubious. That is the idea you are naturally fogetting everything. For one thing for native speakers their vocab is going up approximately 1,000 a year at its height with no deliberate acquisition whatever so with exposure to language you will revise what you know and add new words. Some people have a taboo on looking up - I don't but in any case your vocab is not going to go down when you are consuming authentic materials of whatever level, it can only go up.
So really I want to have a flashcard software that retires a word once you got it, say, 10 times, into a folder.
Exceptions to the above - (just for my purposes) - I have a nice deck of German genders and find this quite useful. I would do cards for unusual plurals (they do exist). I had a deck for irregular verbs and then deleted it a while back when I'd really completed the deck. And I think it can be useful for items of specialist knowledge eg medical terminology etc.
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What is the tendency to cut off pauses in videos. It’s annoying
It’s a very old UA-cam technique called “jump cuts” it’s supposed to keep the video watchers attention. It’s extremely common in UA-cam videos
I really prefered when you did not cut away all microbits of silence in your videos. There was enough breathing space and naturalness. Now it's like crammed box full of noise.
Yeah, I don't know that I've ever heard of anyone saying that only SRS is the way to learn a language. While I like the info in this video, I feel like we're setting up a straw man and arguing against a point no one is making. Like, we're arguing against an SRS being "enough" (my word, note Steve's), but...no one is saying it is. It's a single tool that fits into a bigger model. Or am I missing something?
Appreciate Steve pointing out SRS can fit into the overall model, though. Lotta people out there attacking the low-hanging fruit. "dUoLiNgO cAn'T mAkE yOu FlUeNt". Literally no one says it does...
It's more about the fact that it's easy to spend a ton of time on SRS systems like Anki (been there, done that) which would be much better spent on other language-related things. As for Duolingo, the same thing can be said about that. All the time I spent there only slowed down my Japanese learning to a crawl and I deeply regret the time wasted on Duo. Now I don't do any of that, I focus on input and real language, and that's what I should have concentrated on all the time. About the efficiency of SRS in general, I guess it's somewhat individual. As I said in another comment, SRS only worked successfully for me for cementing my Hiragana/Katakana, but that's because for this you actually have all the associations needed right there - sound to symbol, symbol to sound. For vocabulary memorized through SRS there's no associative thread, broadly speaking. Which makes it hard to actually make use of for the language when you need it (stuff I've leaned via memorization simply isn't there for me when the context is different).
Yes good
Your shirt looks like a department of corrections inmate shirt.
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But don't don't go forward more then 100 flash cards to review per day
It works .
did you use some apps or did the reviews on your own?
Did you use some kind of app or did the review manually?
@@memorychatai as for repetition itself ; as i am a rtg and a eto oficer , so learn all the time , read two or three times one lection in case of dificulty , then second time in the evening . If it is not enought , three times a day . I do the same tomorow .if it is not yet done i conitinue for a week or a month .
But i never repeat , like ten of times in first reading but make pause in time .
My view is that brain works on it while we sleeping and do other thing .
@@memorychatai postovani gospodine .da vam odgovorim.na srpsko hrvatskom.
Moja zapazanja su ista kao vasa .stvar je u tome da se neponavlja zaredom 10 puta vec vec 1-2-3 puta pa vremenski razmak 7 sati drugi put , pa opet za sedam sati treci put.ta vremenska pauza je presudna ! Kada ucim jezike meni jos na to kasetofon radi 0-24 mesec dana bez gasenja " auto rewerse " i nocu i danju , uz pracenje sa knjigom 2-3 puta dnevno. Nikad vise ne citam od 30-45 minuta jedno pracenje! Da je krace bo bi bolje ! Tako predjem cu knjigu assimil italijanski, nemacki za mesec dana .radim prvo nemacki pola sata pa italijanski pola sata tri puta na dan.
Rezultati su super .
Slicnu metodu primenjujem za studiranje elektrotehnike , matematike, fizike .
Samo je stvar u ponavljanju jer kad se odmarate podsvest radi na tom problemu !!!
Izvinite na duzini .
Pozz.
@@АлександарЈовановић-ъ6н Thanks for sharing such a detailed and interesting approach! I love how you’ve integrated spaced repetition with breaks and shorter sessions-it’s a great way to tackle tough subjects like languages and engineering. I totally agree that those pauses make all the difference in letting the brain work on the problem subconsciously.
It’s really cool to see the different ways people apply these techniques!
Good
In linq it's the same like anki
Why do you consider flash cards devoid of context, when they often include audio, images and entire sentences and from material that the learner has prior familiarity?
Even a whole sentence may not often have context. And most of words don't have context at all.
@@putinisakiller8093 So a whole sentence from a scene I am familiar with, with audio of characters I recognize and whose personality I am familiar, including a suggestive memetic image you would describe as "devoid of context".
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How much time do you spend on such a sentence? And don't forget about that scene. A scene is larger than a sentence, right? 😎
@@patheticpear2897 Well if your flashcard is as good as you describe it kind of has a context. However, you'd probably eventually forget this scene and what dialog characters were having, "losing" this context.
But the other problem is that repeating the same sentence again and again becomes a chore. As Steve said our brain needs a novelty in addition to repetition. At least it's true for mine. After a while it becomes "bored" with the same phrase and "refuses" to remind it.
Also is it really worth to repeat bunch of phrases again and again, when you can just reread/rewatch the content you mined them from, after a while?
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In order to learn a language you should have a few dozen DIFFERENT sentences using the same word in different situations. Maybe even ministories not just sentences. I think you now that one word may have tens of meanings. In many languages many words have several forms.
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This video is cut too much. I love Steve's normal pace, this is too much.
I don't know if you hired someone to edit the videos but recently it's less interesting to watch. Too many cuts and less natural, it feels robotic. I know you are not a fan of long videos but I think most people would prefer a 20 minutes video that feels more enjoyable to watch than rushing all the content into a shorter one.