Xfce would be a good choice. Also many desktop environments have software centers which is far more user friendly than the terminal. EDIT: It's also worth considering that each Linux desktop environment is its own project with varying levels of support, design goals, and maintenance. You've likely had many years of familiarity with Windows and MacOS so you can't necessarily expect to feel exactly as familiar with each desktop environment immediately.
Unfortunately, the people that don't consider the Linux terminal to be "user friendly" are simply that those haven't yet got enough experience with Linux to understand the real power of the terminal. Scripts, shortcuts, aliases & piped commands give you infinite possibilities of automating regular tasks and cutting down on typing anyway - all of this is stuff that is impossible (or very difficult to do) at a GUI level. Sure, a lot of people don't want to put in time and effort to learn Linux to that depth - but, by the same token, I've no interest in car mechanics or customisation but a cousin of mine built his own kit car and loves the buzz he gets from driving it because of the time and enthusiasm he put into it. Effort in = reward out.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 For what the average user wants to do the terminal shouldn't be necessary. In the context of this video a software center would be a good fit. I agree though that the terminal is best and you certainly don't gotta tell me that. I've been using Linux on my desktop for more than a year settling on NixOS, professionally since 2018, and on and off for over a decade.
@@falxie_ "For what the average user wants to do the terminal shouldn't be necessary." Define "average user". In my world, an "average user" wouldn't even use Linux in the first place - therefore their use of a Linux terminal is a moot point. Therefore it's a meaningless statement on your part. "In the context of this video a software center would be a good fit." I don't know what that statement means. "I agree though that the terminal is best and you certainly don't gotta tell me that." So you've now reversed your original opinion because you said the terminal isn't "user friendly". Now you're saying it's "best". That's a contradiction. "I've been using Linux on my desktop for more than a year settling on NixOS, professionally since 2018, and on and off for over a decade." Linux is about choice and you choose to use Linux how it works best for you. But to me, NixOS, flatpaks, snaps and appimages are all "Linux for the Lazy". Universal package managers are like "Pick 'n' Mix sweeties".... "I want that package from over there, this one here, and sprinkles on the top of them..." As far as I am concerned, you get the best out of Linux by putting in time and effort to learn it, choosing a distro, sticking with it and learning how its native package manager works. But you do you.
"Linux isn't so much an operating system as a state of mind" (unattributed 😀). That speaks to the power and ability to do so many difficult things using Linux as a tool set. That said - as a dyed in the wool, longtime Linux enthusiast - you're not wrong about "so many choices" and "clear and simple". There *are* Linux distributions positioned for exactly that purpose (PopOS comes to mind). Good review as always, and now (dammit!) I need to go research "sunlight" and "moonlight" - never heard of them before. Thanks, and keep up the good work!
I remember when this channel had a few thousand subscribers. I am so happy that a channel like this is being rewarded with success. I'm tired of people screaming at me about computers. I wish more calm UA-camrs were rewarded with success.
Great video! Next time I recommend Brunch instead of Chrome OS Flex because it has Google Play and is closer to a real Chromebook but still uses official images (I think)
For some of the best performance on a very old system, you should try Puppy Linux. I'm pretty sure this thing can run on a Pentium 1 with a full desktop, so it should be perfect for one of those very underpowered machines
Puppy should be given the asterisk of a tad departure from normal Os setups. I agree it runs well but there’s no “click, let OS auto partition my drive and go” unless I did it wrong lmao was messing with it the other day on a DATTO alto 2
Gnome3 is based on JavaScript so it's heavy on the CPU, LXDE and XFCE are in C and very leightweight edit: if you have an i5 6th Gen upwards and either want touch support or just typing with shortcuts Gnome3 is the way to go 😎
A note about Chrome OS (Flex); it's still Linux, based on Gentoo. If you're ambitious enough to play around with it, you can use emerge through crosh and _basically_ play with its guts.
I like Linux desktop but there's no way I'm going to fight you because I know you're right. 😅 I've seen a lot of these floating around my area lately. It's really nice to know how they actually perform in real world tests. Thank you!
@@HardwareHaven This is fair - Linux on Desktop, especially right now is a bit covoluded - we're sort of in the middle of a transition from Xorg (current display server that just works) and wayland which is a bit newer - which is why all those options are there. You can look up the differences between the two so you understand why Xorg is being phased out in favor of wayland, I'm hoping within the next year or two Xorg is fully gone so you don't need to deal with that.
Hey, wanted to say thank you for all that you do for the community. I just graduated with my MS in Computer Science and I would listen to your videos when I was feeling stressed out. Thank you so much!
You were trying to access your fileshare by starting it with '\\', which is how Windows does it. On Linux, MacOS and other operating systems, you want to start with 'smb://' instead.
I’m not huge on it but Xfce and Mate are my choice for lightweight Linux desktops that can still hold their own. Ubuntu-Gnome has the most run time for me personally but I don’t mind the others.
Since you went through the trouble of installing h.264fy, you should've tested blocking 60fps video, as a lot of those old CPUs can play 720p and 1080p fine as long as it isn't 60fps.
i have been running mint cinnamon for the last year on my 5060 for last year with no issues until last week when the graphics drivers failed i had to edit the grub file with nomodeset to get it to boot into desktop. just using debian with xfce for the time being. i find also find brave browser perform faster than firefox on the 5060
i have wyse 5070 , its bang for bucks i would say , i use it as media pc , running kodi , jellyfin , and radarr , sonarr and stuff , barely reach 10% cpu idle and around 20% with 1080p video running
if i recall correctly, when viewing videos in youtube in normal windowed mode, its actually rendering the video at a lower resolution and then when you go fullscreen it renders at full resolution. not sure how true that is but it would explain why you drop more frames when you go to full screen mode.
What about embedded spyware, malware, etc in these recycled computers? What if the seller is DNS hijacking the known IP address of the motherboard in your recycled computer.??? What about known CVE vulnerabilities in the older CPU, memory, etc.??? The list goes on..
Debian based Q4OS Linux seems like it would be a viable choice for this low powered machine. I've installed it on a non-technical family member's old windows 32bit efi tablet that became unusable with newer versions of windows and it's updates. I threw Q4OS w/ KDE on the machine and a riced W11 theme and this person doesn't even realize they are running Linux. Because they only use the tablet for watching movies and surfing through web the W11 KDE theme did the trick. For them there's no difference and they are able to navigate the same way they did on windows. For the average user it's really a matter of what you're used to using not so much the usability of the desktop environment. 👊🏻🤪😜 Great video! Keep them coming!
The that model of 5060 has a weird 19v power connector. The plug's pin is fatter than most 19v AC power brick. You can find 12v power supplies with the correct size plug, but now you're cutting two power supplies cords. Also the SSD cables can be drop, as most 2.5 ssd can be disassembled and the pcb can happily fit into it's slot on the motherboard, you will likely need some electrical tape to keep it from shorting against the pcb and mounting screw.
It's just the usual 5.5x2.5 mm power connector which many 19V 3.42A/4.74A laptop chargers have, so it shouldn't be hard to get a replacement power adapter in case it doesn't come with one already. I have a Dell Wyse 5020 (aka Dx0Q) which has the same power connector, the power adapter that came with it is just a generic 19V 3.42A laptop charger. As for the SSD fitment, if the PCB is around 40mm long it should fit nicely, based on my experience on my 5020 which has a very similar motherboard layout as the 5060.
@@corvusaflame713 Didn't know that the 5060 has the RAM cover. The 5020 doesn't have that so the PCB width was never an issue to me, only the length would make or break on the fitment. Also the SSD (with the case) can be fixed to the metal shield with two M3 screws, there should be enough clearance to not hit the heatsink and the metal rail on the case. Needs a SATA extension cable though.
I literally just sold one of my dual core Lenovo PC yesterday because it was old and slow and I couldn't find a use case, before I came to watch your video. Oh well, time to find another PC from junkyard.
Linux desktop boxes generally prefer to access file shares via WebDAV, kind of like Windows works best with SMB shares, and Mac used to work best with AFP. Most NAS software support all these.
I wanted to have a look at endeavour OS with lxqt 2.0 and found that it is really fast and uses between 600 and 700 Mb of Ram, depending on the machine (Mcbook Air 2012 4 Gb Ram). Looks interesting. The problem with very slow computers is imho that they may run the OS and DE quite well, but nowadays websites and apps are just too resource hungry and demanding. My old NUC celerons (3060 and older) are perfect for server tasks, but not more.
On ChromeOS Flex you had no video hardware acceleration, hence all the scaling and video processing was made entirely on the CPU which got to its knees when you went fullscreen. That's the reason you managed to play 1080p videos windowed without frame drops, but even at 720p you were dropping frames like crazy when you went fullscreen. Firefox is, sadly, just worse than Chrome/Chromium/etc., if you had used Chromium on LXQt you would have probably had a much better experience browsing the web. You also need to make sure that all video is accelerated on linux browsers, which is truly a pain in the butt. Gnome is a resource hog and I recommend staying away from it unless you have capable hardware.
THANK YOU for this! I have an old HP Prodesk as a living room server and I was looking for a simple way to use that as a Moonlight client for my gaming pc running Sunshine. This has given a great launching point! In your opinion would installing Moonlight via an Ubuntu template on Proxmox be the best way to go? I have my server and PC connected via 2.5Gb over MOCA, so bandwidth is not an issue when it comes to implementation.
Colten: Interesting video/performance results... If it was me messing with all this I'd have used a simple window manager on Linux like Hyprland or AwesomeWM or i3-gaps, all of which just run the window manager for the UI/UX, and not a full DE (desktop env). That's what I run on my main system that runs Arch Linux (on a Ryzen 9 5950X with 128 GB of RAM) and it flies, but I'd be curious to see how it'd perform on a super low end system like that Wyse terminal you were using in this video... I understand you're a Linux as a desktop env n00b, and you'd have to learn how to set up and use a WM only setup, but yeah I'd be curious to learn how much more performance would be on the table on such a low end box... ANYWAY, great video! Keep em coming!
5:10 Well, on a fixed release distro like Debian it's hard to get the latest and greatest software. it might be possible to get normal Firefox, but idk. i never used debian. on rolling release distros like Arch you just get all the latest software, just as it releases
Is using something like moonlight a viable remote desktop solution to use a linux machine remotely or is this just for games. I need to be able to administer the machine as an admin.
Few words about Linux not being intuitive. I use linux and have NFS share on another PC. I still dont understand how to mount it NOT manually. There is application which should "discover" such share automatically, but they seems to do nothing, so mount command is must have. At least we no longer need to mount removable media manually.
Generally lighter desktops have less features and need more work to get them to act like Gnome/KDE. While not a big fan of Xfce it would have made a better choice for someone new to Linux. You not going to get the best video performance on such low power machines. Bought a Wyse 3040 for $20 delivered, to see how bad it really is ... A great channel all the same ;-)
I would like to be able to do these things, but the speeds of my home network don't allow it (up to 100 Mbps close to the router, 20-30 Mbps elsewhere).
cool video thank you! i have question, i want to stream my PC to cheap laptop or chromeos laptop only for moonlight no heavy tasking, can handle it ? for 8+ hours work
At 9:29 I do spot vsync issues (screen tearing). I wonder if there's some tweakage which can be done to fix that? I've only ever tried out lxqt once and that was years ago! (I think Peppermint 7 used it, I tried that on an ancient laptop. Rather liked it).
I only tried once a linux mint just out of curiosity, it was nice and usable, but I found no reason to really change windows for it. Maybe if my hardware force me to it because windows is no more functioning in it... if not, for now I pass on it. Now I am not at home, and using an old pc of mine with a a10 5800k and the hdd of an old notebook. Windows 10 works like a dream on it, even with the video drivers from 2016 wich are the last ones AMD launched... I can play lots of old games from steam, and lot of new indie ones too.... when windows were no mere an option, sure I will try linux, but until then...
Question, why use sunshine when you are using an nvidia card. The geforce experience still has the shield streaming built in, so you dont have to go through all of the set up of sunshine. Maybe once sunshine has a bit more dev time and is easier to setup on all platforms it will be my remote server of choice. Until then I will use a mix of GFE and moonlight, and parsec.
Speaking of video playing, do this board supports any hardware acceleration for video? Its little messy to get it workig in Firefox, but MPV usually uses acceleration just fine.
I find it amusing that you're giving Linux a hard time when it's working fairly well on machines that other OSes wouldn't even boot on. Grandma Debian rocks on old systems especially with XFCE as a desktop. For just simple stuff: email, web browsing, social media - Debian with XFCE really *just works*. And why use the command line to load programs when there's the App Store and Synaptic? Love ya, man.
I’m not giving Linux a hard time as nearly as I am the people that just constantly go on about how much more simple and easy to use it is compared to other options. I don’t undervalue it’s performance and other advantages, and I even said that I appreciated that Linux made this system still useable which I love.
I like running linux as a hobby as well. My file server on an old laptop hits gigabit speeds off a 2.5 inch HDD (somehow). It's amazing for certain uses. Saying it *just works* is a bit of an exaggeration though.. the second you step outside the "simple stuff: email, web browsing, social media" things can get messy very quick. I can't imagine trying to update a relatives GPS or explain why an online game doesn't work because the anti cheat isn't compatible.
For moonlight, did some one have a light ThinClients version? I use moonlight appimage in Debian KDE Autostart in full screen. But still too bloated, I tried to create a sddm Wayland session that started moonlight but hasn't worked out. Does anyone have a solution?
Linux can't be the saving grace of _every_ old computer forever. *Trust me, I'm a Linux user.* And the Linux kernel, _as well_ Linux kernel-based projects over the course of a decade with change has dropped 32-bit support across major platforms. Pair this with Canonical wanting to omit x86_64 v2 microcode compatibility (a move straight outta stupid IMO) and the future is looking pretty dim for older x64 platforms. Ah well. _At least_ Red Hat community has some sense on its shoulders as while they're also keen on _deprecating_ support in Fedora,, they're not outright going to make people on x86_64 v2 microcode and older have the system _just stop working_ for some stupid reason. This _also_ should not be a problem in Debian if they follow Fedora's lead (or do nothing), and Arch will just be Arch doing its own thing hearing no evil.
You would just be better off buying an old ChromeBook for $10. They are more powerful, portable, and dont use that much energy. You can even run Linux at the same time or just replace ChromeOS with Linux completely.
I've never understood the "I don't _understand_ this OS" thing. Windows, macOS, and the major Linux distros (Ubuntu, Mint, etc.) are all essentially the same at this point. And even where they're not, it's not like any of them are hard to figure out. But maybe that's just my experience - I've used all of them many times over the last 30 years, so maybe there's some muscle memory or something? IDK, but I can't figure out why Mac users complain that Windows is too hard, or Windows users complain that Linux is too obtuse. If all you're doing is browsing the web and checking email, they're all functionally equivalent. Am I missing something here?
Saying ChromeOS is like Gentoo is like taking the finest, warm, aromatic French loaf from the oven and feeling your stomach rumble in anticipation as you smear golden butter over the inside - only to then plonk a big fat dog turd in the middle of it. Gentoo is a wonderful OS that Google turns into a "sh1t sandwich" of a surveillance system by putting its spyware crap all over it.
I saw this post after I commented. My good friend has used a Windows 10 computer for the last few years and it recently died. I just lent him a Ubuntu computer and for what he does he doesn't even notice any difference. He browses the odd site on the internet, but mostly watches UA-cam videos. He is absolutely computer illiterate. He knows how to turn on the power and how to click on an icon to access the internet, that's it. I have an i3 Laptop I plan on giving him that had Windows 7 on it, and now that the free upgrade to 10 is finally done, he can either buy a cheap Windows key or I'm putting Ubuntu on it. He'll likely pick Ubuntu.
Ahhh Wyse the top thin client seller in the world until dell bought them and brutally killed them. Good time with wyse the c10 most reliable thin client ever.
@@lostinvasion AntiX or Puppy runs well on that class of hardware but then one should not expect modern desktop environments functionality or features on those cut down environments. That said, the cheap shots on Linux were _really_ uncalled for. He clearly doesn't know how to use the Linux DEs and took points based on how they fail to resemble Windows.
Please, put more words in my mouth. Lol. I literally said that I understand it's merits and why people like it. I just hate when people act like it's simpler to get into than it really is.
@@HardwareHaven Not meant it as a diss as I am a fan of your videos and have been following your work for quite some time now but you're fooling yourself if you think that modern day DEs are complex or too hard to get into. I'll concede that Plasma can feel a bit involved or overwhelming for someone just getting their feet wet and I don't think GNOME is nearly as intuitive as its proponents make it sound to be but I've had quite a few successful stories of computer illiterate people using Linux Mint, Elementary OS, Zorin OS and Xubuntu easily after a little bit of hand holding. The only people that actually think that the Linux desktop environments are hard to use are Windows power users that are too set in their ways and so blind by familiarity that they just can't conceive that there are alternative ways to achieve this or that task. For these people, anything different than the way Windows does things is automatically a big no-no.
No computer is a potato to an engineer that understands what the computer needs to do and how best to optimise the software running on it. Sonny, there are thousands upon thousands of 368 and 486 PCs still in use today in industrial automation systems that "just work" - not to mention countless low-powered (usually) ARM CPUs in car management systems and IoT. Take your blinkers off - it's not all about "PC gamer wanking" and constantly worrying over numbers that you brag to your peers about on socual media - like how many cores your Ryzen CPU has or how many FPS you get in "Cybersplatt 4044" or "Starfailed".
@@terrydaktyllus1320Sonny? You've no idea my age. I've been in the technology field for 30+ years. And there are plenty of potatoes around. Modern desktops are not designed for such slow hardware. That's hardly a controversial statement. It's a fact. Linux barely supports 486's any more. I worked with one of the only guys who was trying to actively maintain it. Those 386s and 486s you speak of are running DOS or Windows or some embedded OS. They aren't running Linux 6.X with GNOME desktops nor could they. Instead of jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about people maybe stop and read what was said.
@@HardwareHavenWho said anything about being exhaustive. The complaint is about lack of nuance. I'm pointing out you lumped a ton of unrelated software together ("Linux Desktop"), ran it on a machine no one ever intended it to run on (particularly modern desktops like GNOME) and made repeated snarky comments about it as some monolithic thing. There is no "Linux desktop". There are dozens of "desktops" that run on Linux. Each their own project with different focus, technologies, etc.
@@trapexit "You've no idea my age. I've been in the technology field for 30+ years." That means nothing as a statement but I've been there longer anyway. "And there are plenty of potatoes around." That also means nothing as a statement. We've already established that lots of old CPUs are still used in industrial systems - someone with 30+ years around computers would know that already. "Modern desktops are not designed for such slow hardware." You're the one suddenly diverting the topic specifically onto desktops. I was talking about the general applications that hardware gets put to. And I run perfectly good modern (Gentoo) Linux desktops on Core 2 Duo laptops from 2007 anyway. So your statement is wrong. "That's hardly a controversial statement." No, it's an incorrect statement. "It's a fact." Things aren't facts just because you say they are. "Linux barely supports 486's any more." Many of the Red Hat servers I work on are fully supported whilst running 2.x kernels - which do support 486 CPUs, though our servers are more modern than that. "I worked with one of the only guys who was trying to actively maintain it." So what? Why's that relevant? "Those 386s and 486s you speak of are running DOS or Windows or some embedded OS." Sure, some of them are. And some are running old Linux kernels. As stated above. "They aren't running Linux 6.X with GNOME desktops nor could they." I never said they were. That's you putting words into my mouth and then arguing against them - which would give me an opportunity to drop from the conversation and leave you arguing with yourself. Which would be silly. "Instead of jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about people maybe stop and read what was said." ...says "Mr. Kettle" making assumptions about me.
But just the fact that I need to know which distros are good and which ones aren’t and why is what I’m saying. I’m not saying Linux is bad. But it’s just not as straightforward and user friendly as so many people claim it to be. That was mainly the only good thing I said about ChromeOS
@@HardwareHaven You're right about that, Debian definitly isn't a user friendly option. It's a shame ChromeOS Flex doesn't have any VM functionality, which means no Android apps or Steam.
Which is funny, because for non-desktop stuff Debian has by far been my favorite to use 😂 And yeah, that would be cool. I know you can setup and install Linux packages by turning that setting on in the developer tools, but it wasn’t worth diving into in this one. Chris Titus Tech has a good video on it. Thanks for the discussion! It’s nice to see that in comments lol
I almost downvoted this video because you kept mugging the camera with "linux is sooo easy" comments, but the video was redeemed (for me) by the VDI content on moonlight/sunshine and spice. Maybe do less of the former.
Just want to say im totally here for the casual linux shade :) Most of the major cons of using Linux as a desktop OS are upheld as "pros" by the people who bang their pots together the loudest, so will likely never change
I just watched this WHOLE video to see sunshine working just to hear him saying "its geeting late" and he did not even try. thats it, no more sub from me
Well I gave up because it was going to be a lot of time trying to troubleshoot. I get your frustration though. In the future, you can use chapters to help get to what you want to see.
Man installs debian, then complains about the UX. Of course it's bad, half of that distro's UI elements are from the stone age, and that's kinda the whole point.
That CPU has 1750 passmark points. Which is a bit low for gnome/kde, almost too high for lxqt/xfce/mate (these can work fine even with just 500 point cpus), but it's just right for Cinnamon.
You should look into Windows Ghost Specter, cut down versions if windows without bloat and telemetry. Doesn't run as well as Linux but still lightweight
Since I see a lot of comments on "X Y Z is good DE for lightweight operation", I'll chime in. IceWM. It runs on anything, and barely uses ram (~120mb on idle, desktop only). AntiX ships with it out of box. Cheers :P
cool video thank you! i have question, i want to stream my PC to cheap laptop or chromeos laptop only for moonlight no heavy tasking, can handle it ? for 8+ hours work
I use Sunshine running on my gaming PC (which is on all the time) and then use Moonlight to connect to it through a bunch of different machines - multiple laptops, and even a Raspberry Pi 4B. It works flawlessly, and when I'm on my Pi I can't tell that I'm on a machine in a different part of my house. Moonlight is just so great!
KDE is pretty resource heavy, and those Wyse terminals were originally intended to run embedded OSes like Windows XP Embedded or some super lightweight/.stripped down Linux like Ubuntu... KDE would likely render it unusable... The registers where I work have Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and we SSH into a FreeBSD server for all the POS tasks... but yeah... KDE wouldn't be a great choice, unless the system Colten got is more powerful than I think it is/compared to the Wyse terminals at work...
Something in your record-edit pipeline is doing adaptive gain on your mic signal and cranking it up super loud during silence to try to find the signal, leading to brief periods of loud room tone and hiss.
Yeah, I think there was something weird with the render. I've had some weird bugs like that with Premiere/Media Encoder recently. (Hence why I'm switching to Resolve lol) Thanks for the feedback and sorry that I didn't catch it!
In my experience, Moonlight works best from Windows. Chrome OS had latency. I think Mint did the same. I use a 2017 low end HP laptop as my thin client. It’s almost perfect.
Xfce would be a good choice. Also many desktop environments have software centers which is far more user friendly than the terminal.
EDIT: It's also worth considering that each Linux desktop environment is its own project with varying levels of support, design goals, and maintenance. You've likely had many years of familiarity with Windows and MacOS so you can't necessarily expect to feel exactly as familiar with each desktop environment immediately.
Just brought an old dual core i3 back to life with XCFE Linux Mint. It's makes that old PC run like a top. 👍
Unfortunately, the people that don't consider the Linux terminal to be "user friendly" are simply that those haven't yet got enough experience with Linux to understand the real power of the terminal.
Scripts, shortcuts, aliases & piped commands give you infinite possibilities of automating regular tasks and cutting down on typing anyway - all of this is stuff that is impossible (or very difficult to do) at a GUI level.
Sure, a lot of people don't want to put in time and effort to learn Linux to that depth - but, by the same token, I've no interest in car mechanics or customisation but a cousin of mine built his own kit car and loves the buzz he gets from driving it because of the time and enthusiasm he put into it.
Effort in = reward out.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 For what the average user wants to do the terminal shouldn't be necessary. In the context of this video a software center would be a good fit.
I agree though that the terminal is best and you certainly don't gotta tell me that. I've been using Linux on my desktop for more than a year settling on NixOS, professionally since 2018, and on and off for over a decade.
@@falxie_ "For what the average user wants to do the terminal shouldn't be necessary."
Define "average user". In my world, an "average user" wouldn't even use Linux in the first place - therefore their use of a Linux terminal is a moot point. Therefore it's a meaningless statement on your part.
"In the context of this video a software center would be a good fit."
I don't know what that statement means.
"I agree though that the terminal is best and you certainly don't gotta tell me that."
So you've now reversed your original opinion because you said the terminal isn't "user friendly". Now you're saying it's "best". That's a contradiction.
"I've been using Linux on my desktop for more than a year settling on NixOS, professionally since 2018, and on and off for over a decade."
Linux is about choice and you choose to use Linux how it works best for you. But to me, NixOS, flatpaks, snaps and appimages are all "Linux for the Lazy".
Universal package managers are like "Pick 'n' Mix sweeties".... "I want that package from over there, this one here, and sprinkles on the top of them..."
As far as I am concerned, you get the best out of Linux by putting in time and effort to learn it, choosing a distro, sticking with it and learning how its native package manager works.
But you do you.
This.
I mean. I would not judge the Linux desktop experience by this environment ;)
Hahahaha true… 😂
"Linux isn't so much an operating system as a state of mind" (unattributed 😀). That speaks to the power and ability to do so many difficult things using Linux as a tool set.
That said - as a dyed in the wool, longtime Linux enthusiast - you're not wrong about "so many choices" and "clear and simple". There *are* Linux distributions positioned for exactly that purpose (PopOS comes to mind).
Good review as always, and now (dammit!) I need to go research "sunlight" and "moonlight" - never heard of them before. Thanks, and keep up the good work!
Sunshine and moonlight work perfectly for my use case. Pi 5 on my TV. Gaming PC upstairs. Streaming games to my TV with very low latency.
I used sunshine to stream from my PC to a hacked switch, it worked nearly flawlessly as a Wii U controller for CEMU emulation
I remember when this channel had a few thousand subscribers. I am so happy that a channel like this is being rewarded with success. I'm tired of people screaming at me about computers. I wish more calm UA-camrs were rewarded with success.
Great video! Next time I recommend Brunch instead of Chrome OS Flex because it has Google Play and is closer to a real Chromebook but still uses official images (I think)
Interesting! Never heard of it
Thanks for the suggestion!
both spy wares
For some of the best performance on a very old system, you should try Puppy Linux. I'm pretty sure this thing can run on a Pentium 1 with a full desktop, so it should be perfect for one of those very underpowered machines
Damn Small Linux as well..but not sure it's still being developed
Puppy should be given the asterisk of a tad departure from normal Os setups. I agree it runs well but there’s no “click, let OS auto partition my drive and go” unless I did it wrong lmao was messing with it the other day on a DATTO alto 2
Gnome3 is based on JavaScript so it's heavy on the CPU, LXDE and XFCE are in C and very leightweight
edit: if you have an i5 6th Gen upwards and either want touch support or just typing with shortcuts Gnome3 is the way to go 😎
A note about Chrome OS (Flex); it's still Linux, based on Gentoo. If you're ambitious enough to play around with it, you can use emerge through crosh and _basically_ play with its guts.
I like Linux desktop but there's no way I'm going to fight you because I know you're right. 😅 I've seen a lot of these floating around my area lately. It's really nice to know how they actually perform in real world tests. Thank you!
Thank you for the rational take lol. And I want to get more into it, just haven't had the time
@@HardwareHaven This is fair - Linux on Desktop, especially right now is a bit covoluded - we're sort of in the middle of a transition from Xorg (current display server that just works) and wayland which is a bit newer - which is why all those options are there. You can look up the differences between the two so you understand why Xorg is being phased out in favor of wayland, I'm hoping within the next year or two Xorg is fully gone so you don't need to deal with that.
Hey, wanted to say thank you for all that you do for the community.
I just graduated with my MS in Computer Science and I would listen to your videos when I was feeling stressed out.
Thank you so much!
THATS AMAZING!! I love to hear stuff like that. Congratulations!
The Dell Wyze 5070 is the machine to get. Especially the Pentium-based Extended version, with a PCIe slot.
You were trying to access your fileshare by starting it with '\\', which is how Windows does it. On Linux, MacOS and other operating systems, you want to start with 'smb://' instead.
I’m not huge on it but Xfce and Mate are my choice for lightweight Linux desktops that can still hold their own. Ubuntu-Gnome has the most run time for me personally but I don’t mind the others.
Sunshine and Moonlight looks like the solution I've been wanting for using Fusion 360 from my laptop.
as soon as you said: "lets try some ebay" i got an ebay ad
Since you went through the trouble of installing h.264fy, you should've tested blocking 60fps video, as a lot of those old CPUs can play 720p and 1080p fine as long as it isn't 60fps.
If you block 60fps, youll likely be limited to 720p as yt removed the 30fps versions of 1080p
@@personyeet You can still download it.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino i mean the 30 fps versions of videos in 1080p60fps videos
15:42 love how one of the ads is for one of those sketchy "dating" sites
I’d suggest Mint Cinnamon or Mint XFCE. I’ve even gotten my whole family using Linux Mint because it’s a great take for desktops.
i have been running mint cinnamon for the last year on my 5060 for last year with no issues until last week when the graphics drivers failed i had to edit the grub file with nomodeset to get it to boot into desktop. just using debian with xfce for the time being. i find also find brave browser perform faster than firefox on the 5060
i have wyse 5070 , its bang for bucks i would say , i use it as media pc , running kodi , jellyfin , and radarr , sonarr and stuff , barely reach 10% cpu idle and around 20% with 1080p video running
I'd still recommend you try a less old but equally cheap version, the dell wyse 5070. I picked one up for £40 recently.
if i recall correctly, when viewing videos in youtube in normal windowed mode, its actually rendering the video at a lower resolution and then when you go fullscreen it renders at full resolution. not sure how true that is but it would explain why you drop more frames when you go to full screen mode.
I’m thinking of trying a 5070 with the J5005 Quad Core CPU option and adding another LAN port for Pfsense/Opnsense VM usage inside Proxmox 😅
What about embedded spyware, malware, etc in these recycled computers?
What if the seller is DNS hijacking the known IP address of the motherboard in your recycled computer.???
What about known CVE vulnerabilities in the older CPU, memory, etc.???
The list goes on..
Debian based Q4OS Linux seems like it would be a viable choice for this low powered machine. I've installed it on a non-technical family member's old windows 32bit efi tablet that became unusable with newer versions of windows and it's updates. I threw Q4OS w/ KDE on the machine and a riced W11 theme and this person doesn't even realize they are running Linux. Because they only use the tablet for watching movies and surfing through web the W11 KDE theme did the trick. For them there's no difference and they are able to navigate the same way they did on windows. For the average user it's really a matter of what you're used to using not so much the usability of the desktop environment. 👊🏻🤪😜
Great video! Keep them coming!
8:38 it is so nice to know that im not the only one who has to open docs every single time i need to mount another drive to an smb share 😅
I was subscriber when this channel had 200 to 300 sub it has came a long way
The that model of 5060 has a weird 19v power connector. The plug's pin is fatter than most 19v AC power brick. You can find 12v power supplies with the correct size plug, but now you're cutting two power supplies cords.
Also the SSD cables can be drop, as most 2.5 ssd can be disassembled and the pcb can happily fit into it's slot on the motherboard, you will likely need some electrical tape to keep it from shorting against the pcb and mounting screw.
It's just the usual 5.5x2.5 mm power connector which many 19V 3.42A/4.74A laptop chargers have, so it shouldn't be hard to get a replacement power adapter in case it doesn't come with one already. I have a Dell Wyse 5020 (aka Dx0Q) which has the same power connector, the power adapter that came with it is just a generic 19V 3.42A laptop charger.
As for the SSD fitment, if the PCB is around 40mm long it should fit nicely, based on my experience on my 5020 which has a very similar motherboard layout as the 5060.
@@OverTallman yah. At the worst, if the SSD pcb doesn't fit, leave off the ram shroud.
@@corvusaflame713 Didn't know that the 5060 has the RAM cover. The 5020 doesn't have that so the PCB width was never an issue to me, only the length would make or break on the fitment.
Also the SSD (with the case) can be fixed to the metal shield with two M3 screws, there should be enough clearance to not hit the heatsink and the metal rail on the case. Needs a SATA extension cable though.
I literally just sold one of my dual core Lenovo PC yesterday because it was old and slow and I couldn't find a use case, before I came to watch your video. Oh well, time to find another PC from junkyard.
Wyse 5070s are available on ebay for the same or less than 5060s and should be a decent bit faster using more modern Intel CPUs.
Yeah, I plan to get my hands on one at some point!
Linux desktop boxes generally prefer to access file shares via WebDAV, kind of like Windows works best with SMB shares, and Mac used to work best with AFP. Most NAS software support all these.
You should've tried Brunch + ChromeOS so you have full Google Play support and even enable the Linux Development Environment option.
Me: Dell Dimension 2400. Now with a FSB of 133Mhz instead of 100Mhz!
Minetest now gets ~15 fps, which is genuinely nice!
I wanted to have a look at endeavour OS with lxqt 2.0 and found that it is really fast and uses between 600 and 700 Mb of Ram, depending on the machine (Mcbook Air 2012 4 Gb Ram). Looks interesting. The problem with very slow computers is imho that they may run the OS and DE quite well, but nowadays websites and apps are just too resource hungry and demanding. My old NUC celerons (3060 and older) are perfect for server tasks, but not more.
On ChromeOS Flex you had no video hardware acceleration, hence all the scaling and video processing was made entirely on the CPU which got to its knees when you went fullscreen.
That's the reason you managed to play 1080p videos windowed without frame drops, but even at 720p you were dropping frames like crazy when you went fullscreen.
Firefox is, sadly, just worse than Chrome/Chromium/etc., if you had used Chromium on LXQt you would have probably had a much better experience browsing the web.
You also need to make sure that all video is accelerated on linux browsers, which is truly a pain in the butt.
Gnome is a resource hog and I recommend staying away from it unless you have capable hardware.
Use gnome or plasma wayland. This will prevent screen tearing and should improve performance on older systems
Not too bad considering the youtube video is 60fps
I wouldn't guess you re using Linux for anything before that video, well done!
Ok, now I have to get a thin client. Great video
Who noticed the ad in 15:42 lmao
THANK YOU for this! I have an old HP Prodesk as a living room server and I was looking for a simple way to use that as a Moonlight client for my gaming pc running Sunshine. This has given a great launching point!
In your opinion would installing Moonlight via an Ubuntu template on Proxmox be the best way to go? I have my server and PC connected via 2.5Gb over MOCA, so bandwidth is not an issue when it comes to implementation.
Just a thought: Would it be feasible to use a Wyse 3040 as an alternative base for a PiKVM?
At the 7:27 mark - what were you using to see if it was streaming 264 and dropping packets?
Love the videos BTW, please keep it up.
Colten: Interesting video/performance results... If it was me messing with all this I'd have used a simple window manager on Linux like Hyprland or AwesomeWM or i3-gaps, all of which just run the window manager for the UI/UX, and not a full DE (desktop env). That's what I run on my main system that runs Arch Linux (on a Ryzen 9 5950X with 128 GB of RAM) and it flies, but I'd be curious to see how it'd perform on a super low end system like that Wyse terminal you were using in this video... I understand you're a Linux as a desktop env n00b, and you'd have to learn how to set up and use a WM only setup, but yeah I'd be curious to learn how much more performance would be on the table on such a low end box... ANYWAY, great video! Keep em coming!
NIce video!
Congrats for trying some Desktop Enviroments
On MPV on can see playback details like decoder or dropped frames by pressing i, but it sure is great player.
the subscribe buton glowed when you said subscribe
PopOS is a quite nice Linux desktop
5:10 Well, on a fixed release distro like Debian it's hard to get the latest and greatest software. it might be possible to get normal Firefox, but idk. i never used debian. on rolling release distros like Arch you just get all the latest software, just as it releases
I have hp t5570 thib client with 1ghz single core. Had a hard time installing linux. Installed win7
Is using something like moonlight a viable remote desktop solution to use a linux machine remotely or is this just for games. I need to be able to administer the machine as an admin.
Cluster with the wyze?
Retro gaming emulation with batocera
Few words about Linux not being intuitive. I use linux and have NFS share on another PC. I still dont understand how to mount it NOT manually. There is application which should "discover" such share automatically, but they seems to do nothing, so mount command is must have. At least we no longer need to mount removable media manually.
Generally lighter desktops have less features and need more work to get them to act like Gnome/KDE. While not a big fan of Xfce it would have made a better choice for someone new to Linux. You not going to get the best video performance on such low power machines. Bought a Wyse 3040 for $20 delivered, to see how bad it really is ... A great channel all the same ;-)
I would like to be able to do these things, but the speeds of my home network don't allow it (up to 100 Mbps close to the router, 20-30 Mbps elsewhere).
I've got to get one of these small factor units just to experiment with!
Hit me up!
cool video thank you! i have question, i want to stream my PC to cheap laptop or chromeos laptop only for moonlight no heavy tasking, can handle it ? for 8+ hours work
At 9:29 I do spot vsync issues (screen tearing). I wonder if there's some tweakage which can be done to fix that? I've only ever tried out lxqt once and that was years ago! (I think Peppermint 7 used it, I tried that on an ancient laptop. Rather liked it).
I use Windows Server for testing and working reason
I only tried once a linux mint just out of curiosity, it was nice and usable, but I found no reason to really change windows for it. Maybe if my hardware force me to it because windows is no more functioning in it... if not, for now I pass on it. Now I am not at home, and using an old pc of mine with a a10 5800k and the hdd of an old notebook. Windows 10 works like a dream on it, even with the video drivers from 2016 wich are the last ones AMD launched... I can play lots of old games from steam, and lot of new indie ones too.... when windows were no mere an option, sure I will try linux, but until then...
Question, why use sunshine when you are using an nvidia card. The geforce experience still has the shield streaming built in, so you dont have to go through all of the set up of sunshine.
Maybe once sunshine has a bit more dev time and is easier to setup on all platforms it will be my remote server of choice. Until then I will use a mix of GFE and moonlight, and parsec.
Speaking of video playing, do this board supports any hardware acceleration for video? Its little messy to get it workig in Firefox, but MPV usually uses acceleration just fine.
Surprised it didn't immediately explode when you tried to play AV1 video
I find it amusing that you're giving Linux a hard time when it's working fairly well on machines that other OSes wouldn't even boot on. Grandma Debian rocks on old systems especially with XFCE as a desktop. For just simple stuff: email, web browsing, social media - Debian with XFCE really *just works*.
And why use the command line to load programs when there's the App Store and Synaptic? Love ya, man.
I’m not giving Linux a hard time as nearly as I am the people that just constantly go on about how much more simple and easy to use it is compared to other options. I don’t undervalue it’s performance and other advantages, and I even said that I appreciated that Linux made this system still useable which I love.
I like running linux as a hobby as well. My file server on an old laptop hits gigabit speeds off a 2.5 inch HDD (somehow). It's amazing for certain uses.
Saying it *just works* is a bit of an exaggeration though.. the second you step outside the "simple stuff: email, web browsing, social media" things can get messy very quick.
I can't imagine trying to update a relatives GPS or explain why an online game doesn't work because the anti cheat isn't compatible.
I've been looking around for good remote desktop solutions and found Parsec to be waaay better than Moonlight/Sunshine. Am I missing something?
For moonlight, did some one have a light ThinClients version? I use moonlight appimage in Debian KDE Autostart in full screen. But still too bloated, I tried to create a sddm Wayland session that started moonlight but hasn't worked out. Does anyone have a solution?
Oooh...try ZORIN OS, Might be a good distro to try, has less of a learning curve to M$
Linux can't be the saving grace of _every_ old computer forever. *Trust me, I'm a Linux user.* And the Linux kernel, _as well_ Linux kernel-based projects over the course of a decade with change has dropped 32-bit support across major platforms. Pair this with Canonical wanting to omit x86_64 v2 microcode compatibility (a move straight outta stupid IMO) and the future is looking pretty dim for older x64 platforms.
Ah well. _At least_ Red Hat community has some sense on its shoulders as while they're also keen on _deprecating_ support in Fedora,, they're not outright going to make people on x86_64 v2 microcode and older have the system _just stop working_ for some stupid reason. This _also_ should not be a problem in Debian if they follow Fedora's lead (or do nothing), and Arch will just be Arch doing its own thing hearing no evil.
You would just be better off buying an old ChromeBook for $10. They are more powerful, portable, and dont use that much energy. You can even run Linux at the same time or just replace ChromeOS with Linux completely.
I've never understood the "I don't _understand_ this OS" thing. Windows, macOS, and the major Linux distros (Ubuntu, Mint, etc.) are all essentially the same at this point. And even where they're not, it's not like any of them are hard to figure out. But maybe that's just my experience - I've used all of them many times over the last 30 years, so maybe there's some muscle memory or something? IDK, but I can't figure out why Mac users complain that Windows is too hard, or Windows users complain that Linux is too obtuse. If all you're doing is browsing the web and checking email, they're all functionally equivalent. Am I missing something here?
i want to know how emulation is on theses machine say up to the ps2 dreamcast era... they make great small emu machines for kids
Nice video
Imagine ChromeOS is just Linux (Gentoo) with a Desktop Environment and some changes on top 🧐
Saying ChromeOS is like Gentoo is like taking the finest, warm, aromatic French loaf from the oven and feeling your stomach rumble in anticipation as you smear golden butter over the inside - only to then plonk a big fat dog turd in the middle of it.
Gentoo is a wonderful OS that Google turns into a "sh1t sandwich" of a surveillance system by putting its spyware crap all over it.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I like your comparison :)
@@HowToLinux Run ChromiumOS if you need that kind of interface - a minimal amount of Google rubbish in there that's tracking your every move.
We need to find someone who has never used a computer and have them try Windows and the Linux desktop and see which one is easier for them.
I saw this post after I commented. My good friend has used a Windows 10 computer for the last few years and it recently died. I just lent him a Ubuntu computer and for what he does he doesn't even notice any difference. He browses the odd site on the internet, but mostly watches UA-cam videos. He is absolutely computer illiterate. He knows how to turn on the power and how to click on an icon to access the internet, that's it. I have an i3 Laptop I plan on giving him that had Windows 7 on it, and now that the free upgrade to 10 is finally done, he can either buy a cheap Windows key or I'm putting Ubuntu on it. He'll likely pick Ubuntu.
Ahhh Wyse the top thin client seller in the world until dell bought them and brutally killed them. Good time with wyse the c10 most reliable thin client ever.
What aboyan old p4 rambus? ;p can we breathe new life into that for anything useful besides nostalgia offline winxp gaming?
Bunsen Labs.
Uses Linux desktop on underpowered hardware from a decade ago
*LiNuX is SOOO bad!1!1!1!!!!!*
@@lostinvasion AntiX or Puppy runs well on that class of hardware but then one should not expect modern desktop environments functionality or features on those cut down environments. That said, the cheap shots on Linux were _really_ uncalled for. He clearly doesn't know how to use the Linux DEs and took points based on how they fail to resemble Windows.
Please, put more words in my mouth. Lol. I literally said that I understand it's merits and why people like it. I just hate when people act like it's simpler to get into than it really is.
@@HardwareHaven Not meant it as a diss as I am a fan of your videos and have been following your work for quite some time now but you're fooling yourself if you think that modern day DEs are complex or too hard to get into. I'll concede that Plasma can feel a bit involved or overwhelming for someone just getting their feet wet and I don't think GNOME is nearly as intuitive as its proponents make it sound to be but I've had quite a few successful stories of computer illiterate people using Linux Mint, Elementary OS, Zorin OS and Xubuntu easily after a little bit of hand holding. The only people that actually think that the Linux desktop environments are hard to use are Windows power users that are too set in their ways and so blind by familiarity that they just can't conceive that there are alternative ways to achieve this or that task. For these people, anything different than the way Windows does things is automatically a big no-no.
this is a real stretch and you are basically doing a disservice here - yeah you do add caveats but not strongly enough
Runs modern desktop on potato... complains it's slow. Lumps a dozen different major projects into "Linux Desktop."
This wasn't meant to be exhaustive
No computer is a potato to an engineer that understands what the computer needs to do and how best to optimise the software running on it.
Sonny, there are thousands upon thousands of 368 and 486 PCs still in use today in industrial automation systems that "just work" - not to mention countless low-powered (usually) ARM CPUs in car management systems and IoT.
Take your blinkers off - it's not all about "PC gamer wanking" and constantly worrying over numbers that you brag to your peers about on socual media - like how many cores your Ryzen CPU has or how many FPS you get in "Cybersplatt 4044" or "Starfailed".
@@terrydaktyllus1320Sonny? You've no idea my age. I've been in the technology field for 30+ years. And there are plenty of potatoes around. Modern desktops are not designed for such slow hardware. That's hardly a controversial statement. It's a fact. Linux barely supports 486's any more. I worked with one of the only guys who was trying to actively maintain it. Those 386s and 486s you speak of are running DOS or Windows or some embedded OS. They aren't running Linux 6.X with GNOME desktops nor could they. Instead of jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about people maybe stop and read what was said.
@@HardwareHavenWho said anything about being exhaustive. The complaint is about lack of nuance. I'm pointing out you lumped a ton of unrelated software together ("Linux Desktop"), ran it on a machine no one ever intended it to run on (particularly modern desktops like GNOME) and made repeated snarky comments about it as some monolithic thing. There is no "Linux desktop". There are dozens of "desktops" that run on Linux. Each their own project with different focus, technologies, etc.
@@trapexit "You've no idea my age. I've been in the technology field for 30+ years."
That means nothing as a statement but I've been there longer anyway.
"And there are plenty of potatoes around."
That also means nothing as a statement. We've already established that lots of old CPUs are still used in industrial systems - someone with 30+ years around computers would know that already.
"Modern desktops are not designed for such slow hardware."
You're the one suddenly diverting the topic specifically onto desktops. I was talking about the general applications that hardware gets put to.
And I run perfectly good modern (Gentoo) Linux desktops on Core 2 Duo laptops from 2007 anyway. So your statement is wrong.
"That's hardly a controversial statement."
No, it's an incorrect statement.
"It's a fact."
Things aren't facts just because you say they are.
"Linux barely supports 486's any more."
Many of the Red Hat servers I work on are fully supported whilst running 2.x kernels - which do support 486 CPUs, though our servers are more modern than that.
"I worked with one of the only guys who was trying to actively maintain it."
So what? Why's that relevant?
"Those 386s and 486s you speak of are running DOS or Windows or some embedded OS."
Sure, some of them are. And some are running old Linux kernels. As stated above.
"They aren't running Linux 6.X with GNOME desktops nor could they."
I never said they were. That's you putting words into my mouth and then arguing against them - which would give me an opportunity to drop from the conversation and leave you arguing with yourself. Which would be silly.
"Instead of jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about people maybe stop and read what was said."
...says "Mr. Kettle" making assumptions about me.
TIP: Get a LAPEL mic. You dont need a giant studio mic to make YT vids. Its also distracting on screen.
I do want to point out the irony in complainging about linux when you specifically mean Debian, while praising ChromeOS which is linux. :^)
But just the fact that I need to know which distros are good and which ones aren’t and why is what I’m saying. I’m not saying Linux is bad. But it’s just not as straightforward and user friendly as so many people claim it to be. That was mainly the only good thing I said about ChromeOS
@@HardwareHaven You're right about that, Debian definitly isn't a user friendly option. It's a shame ChromeOS Flex doesn't have any VM functionality, which means no Android apps or Steam.
Which is funny, because for non-desktop stuff Debian has by far been my favorite to use 😂
And yeah, that would be cool. I know you can setup and install Linux packages by turning that setting on in the developer tools, but it wasn’t worth diving into in this one. Chris Titus Tech has a good video on it.
Thanks for the discussion! It’s nice to see that in comments lol
I almost downvoted this video because you kept mugging the camera with "linux is sooo easy" comments, but the video was redeemed (for me) by the VDI content on moonlight/sunshine and spice. Maybe do less of the former.
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Just want to say im totally here for the casual linux shade :) Most of the major cons of using Linux as a desktop OS are upheld as "pros" by the people who bang their pots together the loudest, so will likely never change
Which I get, but I hate when people act like it's just simple. lol
I can't get any of these. Not at the low prices they deserve.
I just watched this WHOLE video to see sunshine working just to hear him saying "its geeting late" and he did not even try. thats it, no more sub from me
Well I gave up because it was going to be a lot of time trying to troubleshoot. I get your frustration though. In the future, you can use chapters to help get to what you want to see.
Also, I did use sunshine on my PC, I just didn’t attempt to also set it up in a VM
@@HardwareHaven Thanks :-)
Man installs debian, then complains about the UX. Of course it's bad, half of that distro's UI elements are from the stone age, and that's kinda the whole point.
That CPU has 1750 passmark points. Which is a bit low for gnome/kde, almost too high for lxqt/xfce/mate (these can work fine even with just 500 point cpus), but it's just right for Cinnamon.
You should try FydeOS it’s kinda like Chrome OS.
You should look into Windows Ghost Specter, cut down versions if windows without bloat and telemetry. Doesn't run as well as Linux but still lightweight
Since I see a lot of comments on "X Y Z is good DE for lightweight operation", I'll chime in.
IceWM. It runs on anything, and barely uses ram (~120mb on idle, desktop only). AntiX ships with it out of box. Cheers :P
cool video thank you! i have question, i want to stream my PC to cheap laptop or chromeos laptop only for moonlight no heavy tasking, can handle it ? for 8+ hours work
I use Sunshine running on my gaming PC (which is on all the time) and then use Moonlight to connect to it through a bunch of different machines - multiple laptops, and even a Raspberry Pi 4B. It works flawlessly, and when I'm on my Pi I can't tell that I'm on a machine in a different part of my house.
Moonlight is just so great!
Yeah it's definitely better than when I first used it.
Firefox ESR is Extended Stable Release
Also, I'd recommend KDE for a pc like this
KDE is pretty resource heavy, and those Wyse terminals were originally intended to run embedded OSes like Windows XP Embedded or some super lightweight/.stripped down Linux like Ubuntu... KDE would likely render it unusable... The registers where I work have Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and we SSH into a FreeBSD server for all the POS tasks... but yeah... KDE wouldn't be a great choice, unless the system Colten got is more powerful than I think it is/compared to the Wyse terminals at work...
Something in your record-edit pipeline is doing adaptive gain on your mic signal and cranking it up super loud during silence to try to find the signal, leading to brief periods of loud room tone and hiss.
Yeah, I think there was something weird with the render. I've had some weird bugs like that with Premiere/Media Encoder recently. (Hence why I'm switching to Resolve lol)
Thanks for the feedback and sorry that I didn't catch it!
6:31 Cai Xuan from China prefers big dog and cozy home.
Cluster it? 3 wyse?
Ive seen similar machines turned into DosBoxes and Win 98 retro machines as well.
In my experience, Moonlight works best from Windows. Chrome OS had latency. I think Mint did the same. I use a 2017 low end HP laptop as my thin client. It’s almost perfect.