Why Cobblemon Will Ruin Pixelmon

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @MonocleMC
    @MonocleMC  Рік тому +1116

    Hope you all enjoy this video🙌
    Had a few audio issues, hope it's not too noticeable!
    EDIT: I made a mistake, I said only generation 1 Pokemon are available, I was wrong, Generation 2 was recently added, amongst other generations, I didn't notice, sorry!
    If I made anymore mistakes, please tell me, I'm not a Pokemon genius😂
    Second EDIT: For those accusing me, this is not a sponsored video. If it was, I would say. I'm allowed to like something and be positive about it.

    • @Pancakes27
      @Pancakes27 Рік тому +72

      After saying that you also immediately showed a bergmite, which is Gen 6. I think only gens 1 and 2 are completed, but an assortment of pokemon from other gens are in as well.

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +45

      I think that's why I made my mistake lol

    • @TehWildcardBeats
      @TehWildcardBeats Рік тому +26

      there's loads of others generations of pokemon, but they aren't complete. the only complete generation is gen 1, with all original 151.

    • @phoenix_3393
      @phoenix_3393 Рік тому +9

      @@MonocleMC the creators basically are just designing whatever Pokémon they want whenever they want

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +12

      Which is what I meant but I wasn't completely accurate

  • @whitescarver
    @whitescarver Рік тому +3192

    As an OG dev on Pixelmon, it's so neat to see how expressive and detailed the voxel models can be these days, we were so limited in our ability to scale and texture back then. This was our dream when everything first started out, fun times. Blastoise pre smooth models was the best model I'd ever made and I'm still proud of it today.

    • @vahahadziev
      @vahahadziev Рік тому +128

      Bro it was actually pretty good, except for colors

    • @ditik2795
      @ditik2795 Рік тому +105

      Ay, much love. You're part of what made our childhood!
      Used to watch pixelmon in the 1st grade. Now I'm in my first year in Uni!

    • @trickstertwister612
      @trickstertwister612 Рік тому +30

      Just checked it, honestly prefer it to the new model. If you tweaked it the slightest bit, detail it just a little more, it'd fit perfectly in cobblemon

    • @Cezkarma
      @Cezkarma Рік тому +59

      I seem to recall Pixelmon starting out with a very similar look to Cobblemon. I was pretty disappointed when it moved to smooth, high poly models.
      What caused the change?

    • @HirokuDev
      @HirokuDev Рік тому +25

      I never saw this comment, hello again Scarver! Your models were the very best we had back then. And frankly, considering what Techne was like, pretty dope actually

  • @novastardust1200
    @novastardust1200 Рік тому +208

    The placeholder model for pokemon being a substitute doll is an incredibly cute detail

  • @Rogue_Duck
    @Rogue_Duck Рік тому +9877

    I gotta say, going from high poly to low poly makes it feel more like vanilla than an actual mod. A new player may never tell! Like your brief overview.

    • @ricardobr1493
      @ricardobr1493 Рік тому +144

      A new player definetly would tell

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 Рік тому +173

      @@ricardobr1493 nah my mom thought it was part of the gamr

    • @shreejan_ach
      @shreejan_ach Рік тому +68

      @@tomikun8057 your mom will probably think pixelmon models are also vanilla

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 Рік тому +161

      @@shreejan_ach nah she doesn't its obviously different. one is blocky one is silky smooth

    • @APunishedManNamed2
      @APunishedManNamed2 Рік тому +18

      Vanilla feel is something only eighty year old boomers care about, the reality is you're playing modded minecraft lmao who cares

  • @phantomasque1102
    @phantomasque1102 Рік тому +583

    As someone who has been a fan of Pixelmon since like 2013 or 14, as well as someone who's donated money to the mod, I gotta say Cobblemon looks like what Pixelmon was originally trying to be and I'm all for it.

  • @vd6070
    @vd6070 Рік тому +2808

    The fact they have placeholder models literally be substitute is both hilarious and promising considering 1. That means they're working on more pokemon, and 2. they can just reuse the model for the move itself whenever they get to battle animations/effects!

    • @electricfantasy6492
      @electricfantasy6492 Рік тому +128

      It also means that they can still implement a Pokémon's data before the model is ready! They don't spawn in naturally, but even if you spawn in a pokémon without a model yet, you can catch it and use it because it already has stats, moves, and stuff.

    • @novarender_
      @novarender_ Рік тому +82

      It is quite literally, a substitute model, lol

    • @orangepeelo711
      @orangepeelo711 Рік тому +69

      I’m pretty sure this is because Cobblemon uses Pokémon Showdowns engine. So basically every Pokémon, move, ability, etc are in the game and up to date as long as Pokémon Showdown has it. They just don’t count them as officially in Cobblemon until the Pokémon are modeled and animated

    • @Jelloterd2
      @Jelloterd2 Рік тому +6

      @@orangepeelo711 Yeah

    • @NatetheNintendofan
      @NatetheNintendofan Рік тому +4

      That reminds me of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon so much

  • @froakachu8077
    @froakachu8077 Рік тому +91

    2:55 "Only generation 1 Pokémon can spawn in your world"
    Immediately shows Stantler

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +18

      Yep many have pointed out that mistake, check the pinned comment.

  • @leekit8951
    @leekit8951 Рік тому +2618

    I like how Cobblemon doesn't remove vanilla mobs entirely too. I saw some sheep in the background. Pixelmon struggles with getting things like mob drops and stuff and is entirely dependant on certain pokemon spawning in and your ability to defeat them in battle.

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +66

      What's your source?

    • @leekit8951
      @leekit8951 Рік тому +280

      @@MonocleMC Uhm... your video? I literally saw a sheep in the vid dude. Pixelmon side of things my source is personal experience

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +424

      I responded to someone else, they must have removed their comment or I accidentally replied to the wrong comment🤨

    • @Law01YT
      @Law01YT Рік тому +79

      Something I might want to add to your comment is that it would be cool to add an option to be able to toggle on and off passive and hostile mobs for people that might want to play cobblemon without Minecraft’s vanilla mobs while still having the ability to turn mobs back on if they so wish

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +100

      Yeah, it's called changing "game mode"...

  • @okijoki_art
    @okijoki_art Рік тому +143

    On another video showcasing Cobblemon, a user named Holmes commented a list of changes they'd like to see, ALL of which have been confirmed by the art director of Cobblemon in a reply to that comment. Here's what's been confirmed:
    1) Randomly generated structures like gyms and stores with healing stations
    2) Evolution animations
    3) Battle music, battle animations, real-time battles (aka wild Pokemon will either run or attack depending on the day cycle)
    4) All Pokemon will eventually be added (including legendaries)
    5) Some Pokemon will be rideable
    6) Breedable Pokemon and holdable Pokemon eggs
    7) Pokedex
    8) Picnics with your Pokemon! :)
    9) Hostile NPCs like Team Rocket or Team Plasma that will try to steal your Pokemon
    I found Holmes' comment on a video by SilverLuck if anyone wants to see more comments made by the devs.

    • @2-bit567
      @2-bit567 Рік тому +4

      How about form changes and stuff like megas?

    • @plastered_crab
      @plastered_crab Рік тому

      yes it is planned@@2-bit567

    • @king_of_pingas
      @king_of_pingas 10 місяців тому +2

      @@2-bit567It is also planned, so is Dynamax :) (it won’t come until a long time tho)

  • @phoenix_3393
    @phoenix_3393 Рік тому +3962

    I think that the biggest thing Cobblemon had over Pixelmon is that it had Pixelmon’s mistakes to build off of. I’m pretty sure that some of Pixelmons coders are also working on Cobblemon. So they are now aware of what really needs to be done to make the mod really successful.
    Edit: man I never thought watching L8Games would somehow get me 100 likes an a comment lol

    • @conradisabutt
      @conradisabutt Рік тому +127

      that is true. Their mistakes definitely lost my interest in Pixelmon. And it sounds like they are being fixed here. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do next.

    • @KindofBradAtThis
      @KindofBradAtThis Рік тому +182

      Cobblemon is also led by Pixelmon's old lead dev who was a bit disgruntled on the direction of Pixelmon!

    • @SEAkuaa
      @SEAkuaa Рік тому +6

      L8games slaps

    • @jaggyd2862
      @jaggyd2862 Рік тому +8

      L8Games... It's been a long time since I've heard that channel

    • @Rikarikun
      @Rikarikun Рік тому +7

      oh there's a whole rabbit hole you can go down on with pixelmon's mistakes.

  • @qwesx
    @qwesx Рік тому +513

    My biggest gripe with Pixelmon is just how much of a pain it is to just play it with friends. I don't mean setting it up, that's relatively simple. But just the amount of work that's necessary to create simple stuff like Pokeballs. You need a lid and a base and a button and then the lids and the bases require different kinds of metals and apricorns and they need to be put on an anvil or pressed and don't get me started on the other machinery and it's just.... dude, I want to play a Pokemon in Minecraft, not Minecraft but MORE tedious with some Pokemon that happen to run around.

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 Рік тому +71

      It is unfortunate minecraft mods tend to forget to make things concise.
      If it was done proper Pokeballs would be made by using wood like a chest but placing a wooden button in the middle, Greatballs would be stone, Ultra would be iron, while if you replaced the button with an appricot you'd get a specialized ball that is stronger the better the base would be.

    • @redvampalucard7040
      @redvampalucard7040 Рік тому +34

      You haven't played recently have you? Hammering the discs has been removed for for MONTHS since the update to 1.16

    • @FlawlessFrivolity
      @FlawlessFrivolity Рік тому +2

      @@Buglin_Burger7878 That would be a pain to do, make a chest Every time you need 1 pokeball.

    • @Sin_Alder
      @Sin_Alder Рік тому +36

      @@redvampalucard7040 To be fair, having been removed for MONTHS out of a DECADE isn't exactly that long, and Cobblemon released early this year. It's an entirely reasonable expectation that someone would've jumped ship and never looked back. The fact that it took them this long to fix something so terrible isn't something to defend them over.

    • @Heriarka
      @Heriarka Рік тому +24

      Handcrafting Pokeballs should be the DIY alternative to buying them at marts, which highlights the main problem in Pixelmon to me, which Cobblemon doesn't seem to address
      Without a server with organized towns and shops and gyms to play in, the game is fun for a moment, and then feels aimless.

  • @lazyshadow5027
    @lazyshadow5027 Рік тому +554

    The problem with Pixelmon, when I first played it, is that the models are way too sharp and detailed for Minecraft. The main advantage of Cobblemon, at least for me, is that the models still look great while retaining that blocky feel. Sure, it may not have procedurally generated towns, pokemon centers, or NPCs yet, but it still has awhile to go.

    • @cinderelenn
      @cinderelenn 9 місяців тому +10

      pixelmon is like lycanites mobs, thats why a lot of people hate on those two mods

    • @shyguy4617
      @shyguy4617 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@cinderelennhonestly after playing rlcraft till end game it's wild how bad those mobs look compared to say parasites which actually looks like they belong in mc

    • @forthelolz1121
      @forthelolz1121 6 місяців тому +11

      @@shyguy4617 To be fair though, Lycanite mobs still feel more “vanilla” than Pixelmon due to them still being somewhat blocky in certain areas. Not to mention that they look like something you would see in CrazyCraft.

    • @btheflyingxbox
      @btheflyingxbox 6 місяців тому

      @@forthelolz1121 There is that one resource pack, Lycanites Redux, which makes the mobs look more blocky and minecraft-like.

    • @GrassSaint33
      @GrassSaint33 4 місяці тому

      1 year later, still doesn't have any of that stuff :( Maybe one day...

  • @samuelramirez4985
    @samuelramirez4985 Рік тому +38

    4:20 imagine being in the pokemon world walking outside and seeing someone violantly murdering a pokemon with a sword

  • @cecijayx
    @cecijayx Рік тому +1480

    i’m hoping one day we get to a point where we don’t even need to compare pixelmon and cobblemon. i hear a lot of folks describe cobblemon as “a better version of pixelmon”. while i’m glad everyone loves this mod, i hope it can eventually blossom and grow into its own thing. i know pixelmon has been out for like a decade, but imagine the discussion we could have with cobblemon without the shadow of pixelmon looming over.

    • @zorenflame3007
      @zorenflame3007 Рік тому +56

      it is going to take time sens pixelmon has bin out for so long it has also noting els to really comper to

    • @origon4477
      @origon4477 Рік тому +5

      ​@@zorenflame3007 ? 🤣

    • @realcupojoe
      @realcupojoe Рік тому +84

      ​@@origon4477 "It is going to take time, since Pixelmon has been out for so long. It also has nothing else to really compare to."

    • @zorenflame3007
      @zorenflame3007 Рік тому +32

      @@realcupojoe ty and i am sorry for my bad typing.

    • @healbunnii
      @healbunnii Рік тому +6

      @@zorenflame3007 why tf you typing like that for 💀💀

  • @jetspeed500
    @jetspeed500 Рік тому +42

    I remember the early days of Pixelmon where they tried to go for this look, voxel based models instead of the higher poly models they use now... considering how many people play with shaders, I kind of wish they kept voxel models as an option... shading on higher poly models is a fair bit more intensive and can make or break the experience. I also always found the implementation of high poly models a bit jarring, it's minecraft, mobs should look like they belong in the game...

  • @TheFiregameCh
    @TheFiregameCh Рік тому +869

    There is feature that worth to be mention. If you experienced with blockbench modeling and datapack, you could add your own fakemon( Pokemon that designed by fans ) to the mod as well. They even have official website wiki for that.

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +176

      I did think about mentioning that, but I didn't want to flood people with too much information.

    • @zeddddd2846
      @zeddddd2846 Рік тому +6

      You can do this also with pixelmon

    • @cyberneticsquid
      @cyberneticsquid Рік тому +11

      @@zeddddd2846 I don't think you can

    • @randoncourter4923
      @randoncourter4923 Рік тому +3

      Iron Mugulis vs Tofrug vs Subnoodle

    • @marcy1949
      @marcy1949 Рік тому +1

      @@cyberneticsquid No, you totally can.

  • @electrobob992
    @electrobob992 Рік тому +44

    I do like that you can actually ATTACK the cobblemon, hope the same comes true for trainers who appear in your base.
    Also fingers crossed they will allow them to do damage on other mobs.
    Imagine using them to kill a zombie or something, with the chance to get pokerus or poison from them as a result. :)
    -Edit-
    Seems like I was right after looking at the reddit where one of the devs posted: "We plan on allowing Pokémon to be able to fight vanilla mobs alongside the player, hopefully with the ability to command them to use moves on mobs. It's a system that will take a fair bit of development time though, so we haven't gotten to it yet. It's likely something we'll start on sometime within the next few updates. "
    Good, needs more realism tbh.
    Plus then you can add cobblemon with other mods tech, magic, etc.
    Imagine using them to fight the wither, or Gaia Guardian xP

    • @2-bit567
      @2-bit567 Рік тому

      I don't care for the idea of cobblemon next to vanilla animals

    • @mcgcast
      @mcgcast 9 місяців тому

      LMao that'll be amazing. Crossover modpack incoming!

    • @ReptillianStrike
      @ReptillianStrike 6 місяців тому

      I've recently been thinking about an expert modpack that uses Pokemon as part of the progression tree. It seems actually possible with Cobblemon.

    • @TDGL
      @TDGL 6 місяців тому

      @@ReptillianStrikePalworld like? Xd

    • @reneablackheart9563
      @reneablackheart9563 Місяць тому

      Cobblemon on its own doesn't come with trainers, but there are extra mods that add them

  • @iamabucket13
    @iamabucket13 Рік тому +847

    The main thing I like about Cobblemon is how it uses Pokemon Showdown's battle code. Pixelmon has suffered from a number of battle bugs coupled with months between updates with no hotfixes. Because Showdown is for competitive battles, it's much more polished, and better yet- pre-made.

    • @Lyndseykittyrules
      @Lyndseykittyrules Рік тому +19

      Oh it does? That's super neat!

    • @randomguyontheinternet5030
      @randomguyontheinternet5030 Рік тому +13

      It does? damn that sounds so much easier and just better. Many smart minds have worked solely on the showdown battle code, so im sure the quality is quite good.

    • @Fiufsciak
      @Fiufsciak Рік тому +8

      They could use it just like that? It's freely available?

    • @gavinm7851
      @gavinm7851 Рік тому

      Damn that's really cool

    • @bladegalaxy5298
      @bladegalaxy5298 Рік тому

      ​@Fiufsciak seems like their is a github repository to access the API, maybe their using that idk

  • @falleneden926
    @falleneden926 Рік тому +25

    The mod is also incredibly friendly for other modders, as you can add you own pokemon into it with just a resourcepack add-on in most cases. Most Technic modpacks with cobblemon usually do have all the pokemon already because modders were quick to add them in. Also pasture blocks are coming out soon! As well as growing berries, crafting potions, setting nicknames, and growing plenty of the medicinal items you could buy from stores in the original games!

  • @Sarah_Redfox
    @Sarah_Redfox Рік тому +508

    as someone who has worked previously on a pixelmon server, im extremely glad another mod is finally taking its place. Pixelmon was so buggy and unstable that it made doing anything with it extremely frustrating, especially on the scale of a large server that gets around 100 players during the day. Organizing tournaments where every other battle had to be restarted because of the game bugging made me want to rip my hairs out. I really hope cobblemon takes over

    • @Sarah_Redfox
      @Sarah_Redfox Рік тому +71

      Also the low poly models not only look way better, but they also are sure to cause way less lag, wich was a huge issue on the server i worked at too

    • @kemonono
      @kemonono Рік тому +7

      @@Sarah_Redfox yeah lag was my first thought plus the vanilla looking models are way cuter imo

    • @MaxTheWendigo
      @MaxTheWendigo Рік тому +1

      hope not

    • @jrsdjers
      @jrsdjers 7 місяців тому

      @@MaxTheWendigo why not?

  • @alfredosauce3727
    @alfredosauce3727 Рік тому +46

    I really like this mod and what they're doing. One of the big reasons I haven't jumped back into pixlemon in years even though its very nostalgic for me is that I find the game freak round models off-putting inside of minecraft. When I've thought about what mods I'd want to make myself before, a pokemon mod with custom minecraft-like models has been one of the main ones I've considered so I'm glad other people more skilled than me are doing that.

  • @treeehouze
    @treeehouze Рік тому +471

    I really love the more Minecraft-y design of Cobblemon, it makes it feel like an expansion to Minecraft and not a completely separate game! I actually made a Cobblemon video a week or so ago and I had a lot of fun looking at the designs and seeing how you can use certain Pokemon as survival tools, like Pidgey giving feather falling when on your shoulder.

    • @R0NYFL0NY
      @R0NYFL0NY Рік тому +10

      Yeah pixelmon is kind of ugly lol

    • @R0NYFL0NY
      @R0NYFL0NY Рік тому +10

      @@ricklavick It fits with the aesthetics of minecraft? The "smooth" textures of pixelmon are jarring and hideous, how is this hard for you to grasp?

  • @umbranex9274
    @umbranex9274 Рік тому +7

    Honestly the high poly models of pixelmon was a big turn off for me. They just didn't feel like they fit into the world. Even being called "Pixelmon" when the pokemon were far beyond just pixels lol. This new mod looks really cool and will definitely be keeping an eye on it.

  • @silverserienty9384
    @silverserienty9384 Рік тому +250

    I honestly cannot wait for Cobblemon to continue updating, some Pokemon when you go to sleep in a bed will act like tamed cats and will walk into the bed and fall asleep on top of you which is especially adorable with Piplup because it just hunkers down like penguins do xD

    • @StaciaHime
      @StaciaHime Рік тому +20

      now imagine sleeping with Snorlax on top

    • @silverserienty9384
      @silverserienty9384 Рік тому +26

      @@StaciaHime the best and last sleep you'll ever have

    • @IchinoseCh
      @IchinoseCh Рік тому +2

      I want to sleep on a snorlax

  • @a_goopie_person_guy_thing3151
    @a_goopie_person_guy_thing3151 Рік тому +9

    One thing I hope they do is make it possible to have pokemon interact with the world a little more, eg have a bisharp chop down trees for you, or have a Wooloo/Tauros/Miltank eat grass like sheep do, or have The End Battle be against Arceus or Mewtwo or make all the legendary/mythical pokemon have special structures of somesort

  • @kyoko4651
    @kyoko4651 Рік тому +191

    This is the first time I have ever looked at cobblemon and as someone who's been using Pixelmon for YEARS I could not agree more, Cobblemon just looks sooo much better

  • @NickStepB
    @NickStepB 8 місяців тому +2

    2:50 "only generation 1 pokemon will spawn"
    Immediately cuts to Stantler and Bergmite

  • @R2-T4two
    @R2-T4two Рік тому +171

    I am very excited for the future of Cobblemon! It currently has a ton of potential.

  • @xerofresh
    @xerofresh 13 днів тому +4

    2:48 “Only gen 1 Pokèmon will spawn” Shows Stantler (gen 2) and Bergmite (gen 6) (not trying to be nitpicky I just thought it was funny)

  • @Cuprite1024
    @Cuprite1024 Рік тому +169

    As of right now, I'd say the two mods are pretty equal for me, but Cobblemon has a TON of potential to completely surpass Pixelmon. Just a bit more polish here and there.
    Of course, that's ignoring the fact that they seemingly intentionally left in the ability for actual Minecraft mobs to spawn, which gives me a *ton* of ideas for what could be done with Cobblemon. Maybe you could be be able to fight them with your Pokémon just like you can fight the Pokémon directly, for example. Something like that would definitely make Cobblemon better for me in an instant since it would better tie the mechanics of Minecraft and Pokémon together.
    Long story short: I'm excited to see where this mod goes. :)

    • @anightcat
      @anightcat Рік тому +20

      Imagine fighting the Warden with your team. Sounds pretty fun to me

    • @darkdruidsvale
      @darkdruidsvale Рік тому +7

      id be down, maybe even have some zombie/skeleton trainers that can either be fought normally or with the team like an actual trainer battle

    • @DravenCanter
      @DravenCanter Рік тому

      This can be done with Pokecube.

    • @Cumbernumb
      @Cumbernumb Рік тому +6

      That’s actually a feature they’re adding of your Pokémon being able to protect you

    • @slightlyuncomfortable
      @slightlyuncomfortable Рік тому +6

      ​@@Cumbernumb That would help so much for the early game! I imagine fire and fighting types being useful for undead mobs!!

  • @Mcon64462
    @Mcon64462 2 дні тому +2

    i wish there was something in setting to select generations or what mons will spawn. could be cool if youre trying to do a specific region run or build

  • @izzypanda9517
    @izzypanda9517 Рік тому +23

    It's so cute that the placeholder model for summoned pokemon is the pokedoll!

    • @mimycx
      @mimycx Рік тому +15

      I think it's the doll which appears when you use the Substitute move

    • @cohock
      @cohock Рік тому +2

      ​@@mimycx correct

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +2

      I didn't know that, the more you know!

  • @Impactor-it1pl
    @Impactor-it1pl 9 місяців тому +3

    Are we not gonna talk about the fact that TCNick3 is in the Thumbnail and Video?

  • @MarioSMB
    @MarioSMB Рік тому +50

    Honourable mention: Pokecube. Similar aesthetic and available on modern versions of Minecraft, but nowhere near as quality and well thought out as this mod! Looking forward to seeing it grow into a true Minecraft Pokemon experience - it's already leagues ahead of its predecessors!

  • @gavinmcnamara2814
    @gavinmcnamara2814 Місяць тому +3

    Honestly the only Problem with Cobblemom in my opinion Is Why do the starters Always Start as Level 10 I just prefer starting at level 5 Instead of level 10 I just like the grind

  • @FabledEnigma
    @FabledEnigma Рік тому +30

    You mentioned the whole thing about being able to spawn any pokemon and it'll have its stats and moves just no model.
    From my understanding this is because the battle sides of pokemon in this mod use the pokemon showdown api, which means the devs dont have to put as much time into the battles, this also allows people in the community to make resource packs adding in models for pokemon pretty easily and a few people are already dedicated to adding some pokemon themselves.

  • @ethanhuddleston
    @ethanhuddleston 6 днів тому +1

    I would never hurt Piplup feeling, you’ve left me no choice😔😂

  • @imafinorangutan5885
    @imafinorangutan5885 Рік тому +47

    not only do the pokeballs disappear they also tend go in the ground or just straight up not appear, making very fun to not be able to see if you caught the pokemon or not

    • @Ziythatguy
      @Ziythatguy Рік тому +2

      I played pixelmon and cobblemon so I know how you feel I hate it so much especially when it doesn't load and it's just open and the red lines just sit there

  • @CookieJar-to5fv
    @CookieJar-to5fv 3 дні тому +1

    “And for a long time there wasn’t an alternative mod”
    Pokecube:

  • @lastmagmarian9116
    @lastmagmarian9116 Рік тому +37

    Some of the issues you mentioned about pixelmon simply come from its age as it predates pokemon itself having some of these features.

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +8

      Did you just say pixelmon predates pokemon?🤨

    • @hypenheimer
      @hypenheimer Рік тому +31

      @@MonocleMC It predates some of the newest generations

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +1

      What features, tho?

    • @wasabilover1293
      @wasabilover1293 Рік тому +35

      @@MonocleMC dynamax for example, raids, its really buggy but pixelmon wasnt made in mind with these

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +3

      Ah okay

  • @Kiko-rd6qx
    @Kiko-rd6qx Рік тому +2

    “This is the only way to get Pokémon from later generations as only Pokémon from gen 1 will spawn”
    *sawsbuck and bergmite spawn*

  • @KrazeeCain
    @KrazeeCain Рік тому +28

    I love the model style and animations this mod brings, but if you're able to attack pokemon yourself, hopefully they add the ability for them to retaliate! A more hardcore legends arceus experience would be pretty sweet.

    • @KrazeeCain
      @KrazeeCain Рік тому +1

      @@MrTea-cz4dr I wasn't a fan of that mod, it has a similar problem with a lack of animations, and a lot of the models are ugly...

    • @caade_1967
      @caade_1967 Рік тому +1

      Right? Seems kinda OP you don't even need to battle to catch

  • @HolesomeVR
    @HolesomeVR Рік тому +13

    As a friend of the devs for pixelmon, there's a ton of beef between these two, but honestly I avoid that stuff, cause personally I like cobblemon. It's charming and in the current game patch meaning I can actually go to the deepdark, only thing I'm sad about is my main team isn't in cobblemon yet but I am patient and am happy with what we get in each patch.

    • @HirokuDev
      @HirokuDev Рік тому

      What's on your main team? We might get em in 1.4

  • @hussainalaiwi9270
    @hussainalaiwi9270 Рік тому +4

    I like this they took a bunch of elements from PLA like changing your moves on the fly chosing if you pokemon evolve and moving in battel also having your pokemon on your shoulder is a small thing that I love

  • @PixelTrainer.
    @PixelTrainer. 2 місяці тому +3

    Cobblemon is pokemon IN Minecraft.
    Pixelmon is pokemon AND Minecraft.
    So it depends on if you want amounts more than immersion.

    • @kuronya3582
      @kuronya3582 14 днів тому

      Pixelmons are overwrite minecraft

  • @Speedy_Ethan
    @Speedy_Ethan Рік тому +4

    Another great video! Wasn't expecting this direction when I saw the community post, but it's still entertaining. Also, can't wait for the Cobblemon series (which was what I first thought the community post was hinting at).

  • @jarkkodacakefox1975
    @jarkkodacakefox1975 Рік тому +9

    Honestly I absolutely love how Cobblemon works a lot like Arceus, I love how tha thame works so much and its nice to have somethong else similar

  • @MeloniestNeon
    @MeloniestNeon Рік тому +18

    I can't wait for the future of this mod! Being able to just straight up fight Pokemon, or have to run away if you encounter a particularly mean, high-level mon in the wild if your party is too weak, even just the immersion of shearing Wooloo and having Pokemon ride around on your shoulders, it feels so fresh!

  • @user-leet37598
    @user-leet37598 Рік тому +4

    I also love the fact that making custom mons is pretty straightforward

  • @poeissalty5807
    @poeissalty5807 Рік тому +8

    I do prefer Cobblemon's general gameplay, models, and animations, but in its current state, I think I still prefer Pixelmon
    My biggest problem is that Cobblemon have no sounds, so it's a bit too easy for me to forget they're actually there. Another thing that's kind of a bummer for me is that when I punch a Pokémon, they don't run away or fight back which kinda breaks my immersion
    These will probably be changed in the future and I will definitely use Cobblemon when it does, but for now I'll stick with Pixelmon

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +3

      I imagine it's something they're currently working on, personally I hope their sounds are not like Pixelmon, I found them to be really annoying and repetitive.

    • @poeissalty5807
      @poeissalty5807 Рік тому

      @@MonocleMC yeah I agree that it's annoying, but with cobblemon, the lack of sounds also creates another problem where I have no idea if it's a Pokémon or a creeper whenever I hear footsteps, so it makes me paranoid too 😅

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +1

      @@poeissalty5807 You can play in peaceful mode, as it doesn't affect the Pokemon in your world whatsoever.

    • @anonanonymous9670
      @anonanonymous9670 Рік тому

      @@MonocleMC They should probably just have the voices from the games tbh

  • @thegamedevcave
    @thegamedevcave Рік тому +4

    if nothing else, the voxel artstyle by default makes it the better option imo. i guess pixelmon uses ripped models from the actual games so they can add more pokemon more quickly, which makes sense but damn does it look uncanny in minecraft... these voxel pokemon are amazing!

  • @Noxsue
    @Noxsue Рік тому +12

    We have to see more Cobblemon from you!

  • @kadenportalappa5785
    @kadenportalappa5785 Місяць тому +1

    “Why does Piplup have tatas?” Was the first thing i asked when seeing the thumbnail.

  • @MunchyMochi621
    @MunchyMochi621 Рік тому +3

    4:51 Me deciding to place a Rhyperior on my shoulder

  • @woofnuggiez
    @woofnuggiez Рік тому +9

    From what I've seen in videos of cobblemon, vs pixelmon so far, cobblemon is easier and less glitchy even, by a landslide, you don't need a move relearner, you can carry around your healing device anywhere so if you're ever in a pickle, like say find a shiny but your pokemon is dead, then you'd be good, and they fixed having to wait to heal in the last update. I can't wait to finally be able to play it as soon as I can buy m 0:08 inecraft on my laptop.

  • @mategido
    @mategido Рік тому +29

    Cobblemon has such a nice style to the pokemons, I much rather having them as blocky entities too, pixelmon feels off

    • @bigfoot_was_a_furry
      @bigfoot_was_a_furry Рік тому +2

      They still feel super off in Cobblemon, more vanilla than Pixelmon.. but still fundamentally wrong.

  • @KokoPopov-tr2ge
    @KokoPopov-tr2ge Рік тому +1

    The only bad thing about pixelmon is how u craft ur pokeballs but that's easily fixeable by just exploring

  • @TunaBear64
    @TunaBear64 Рік тому +3

    5:14 In Pixelmon, the healing machine requieres a DIAMOND, cannot be obtained as item when mined and unaffected by Silk Touch, but why?

  • @47GC
    @47GC Рік тому +7

    Wow, I am actually thinking about playing cobblemon! I am not a forge guy, and I really like my fabric mods so this seems like a thing I could try. Can't wait to see the playthrough!

    • @LordPokeTheFirst
      @LordPokeTheFirst Рік тому

      It's available for fabric too

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +1

      They said it seems like something they could try, I think they're aware it's for fabric as well.

  • @GitGoodGaming
    @GitGoodGaming Місяць тому +2

    It's been a year... if Nintendo hasn't sued or issued a DMCA takedown when they're going for Palworld I'll be suprised

  • @bluehoodiegamer1322
    @bluehoodiegamer1322 Рік тому +12

    I hope that they will get all the pokemon in this AND eventually do Mega Evolutions/the other things. I loved Mega Evolution. Also, I can't wait to see all the servers that will be up and running for this mod.

    • @gravity_cow
      @gravity_cow Рік тому +4

      Still waiting for the day a Pokemon game/mod will let me mega evolve, dynamax, and terastallize the same mon while using a Z move

  • @Pelargir117
    @Pelargir117 Рік тому +1

    'only generation 1 pokemon will spawn in your world'
    *immediately sees a bergmite*
    lol, good goof

  • @MrTrueFury
    @MrTrueFury 6 місяців тому +5

    Cobblemon is EXTREMELY lacking in content. After a year, I see basically no difference from how it was in the video to how it was when I tried it a month ago. The hot swapping of abilities (which can be used to refresh PP), lack of any sort of npcs or structures, lack of pokemon, overly simple crafting recipes for balls. It just makes it feel like missed potential. Pixelmon is far from perfect though. I don't exactly want to play that right now either.
    The fact that you need additional mods for so much stuff in Cobblemon is ridiculous

    • @Mr_Giraffe989
      @Mr_Giraffe989 5 місяців тому +1

      You experience the whole mod in about 1 hour or 2. Its just catching and battleing wild pokemon. Pixelmon might be a bit janky, but it actually has content. My friends and I just switched back to Pixelmon.

    • @TBikerMane
      @TBikerMane 2 місяці тому

      Look at their trello page, they are working on a ton of features

    • @illirei
      @illirei 2 місяці тому

      Pixel on has had over a decade of development, why don't u spend a year and try making one region worth of content for cobblemon, and we'll see how lacking you think it is then

  • @TheHeart_Autistic
    @TheHeart_Autistic 7 місяців тому +2

    Just judging by the thumbnail alone, I definitely feel like I’d like this “cobblemon” thing more than pixelmon.

  • @CringyGull
    @CringyGull Рік тому +8

    I've never played either of these mods, but bro I had no idea Pixelmon's models were so UN-Minecraft! Yeah they're techincally good 3D models of pokemon, but they look horrible in the world of minecraft, but Cobblemon looks incredibly vanilla-friendly.

  • @Avain_Sielu
    @Avain_Sielu Рік тому +1

    What annoys me about Pixelmon and Cobblemon is that it forces the Pokemon Battle System into Minecraft. I wanna have Pokemon (The Creatures) in Minecraft but still feel like playing Minecraft which isn't a Turn Based Game
    I really prefered for Pokemobs and Pokecube did it back then

  • @ninju122
    @ninju122 5 місяців тому +4

    1:38 man that's an arcanine with no fire attacks?

    • @goof9203
      @goof9203 5 місяців тому

      oh god you're right

  • @Snowclimb
    @Snowclimb Рік тому +5

    For anybody interested for the Pokemon who currently only have substitute models I have seen servers that replace them with 2d pixel models and have given them world generation based on their typing.
    This means if your favourite Pokemon isn’t included you could still get them in a less interactive 2d form for the time being till future updates.
    Alot of the 3d sprites are community made so its really worth shouting out the community there and feel free to join and give them a hand. Its awesome to see their discord at work.
    (Just to clarify I’m not connected with the cobblemon creators/developers just a big fan of this mod they’re making and think they deserve some praise)

  • @mcmagegamingg7422
    @mcmagegamingg7422 Рік тому +28

    Wow, this mod has CRAZY potential. It already feels a lot better than pixelmon in a number of ways despite the unbelievable amount of features pixelmon has. Looking forward to seeing how this mod develops

    • @Gr0ot
      @Gr0ot 11 місяців тому

      So…it isn’t better. You quite literally went against your whole point.

  • @WiiGi
    @WiiGi Рік тому

    Me and 10 friends made an entire recreation map of Kanto on minecraft. In pallet town, we added a "line" to battle with pokemon trainers between Anything goes, 100, , 50 and level 25. An entire shopping center for TMS, Items and Ultra/Great/Poke balls (You get money by fighting wild pokemon or selling items) and lots of 1 on 1 trade stations. I was honestly really impressed and made sure to keep players inbound while allowing players to be able to teleport to cities they've been to by right clicking their respective badge and each badge also grants entry through certain parts of the map. We also added anti-cheats to the server and lots of scripts and extension add-ons. All wild pokemon set corresponding to the games in level, and % appearance rate as well as 0.1% chance of certain pokemon or certain locations opening up at night when the light sensor doesn't receive light, it opens up a path in a cave, forest, or underwater with exclusive pokemon. It was great, pretty much we were going to open up the server to the public but...
    The server host who had this entire server and map didn't make a copy of it and their entire computer got corrupted and deleted. We all just quit altogether.

  • @VoltaicFox
    @VoltaicFox Рік тому +3

    I think they both have their place, and the existence of one doesn't "ruin" the other. Sure, people can have their opinions on which is better or worse, but that doesn't mean there's not room for both. I love Pixelmon, and I'm very excited to try Cobblemon, and I think I could enjoy either one depending on my mood

  • @Cat-pv6yx
    @Cat-pv6yx Рік тому +1

    I like how the substitute Pokémon models are literal substitutes

  • @OuterW1ld
    @OuterW1ld Рік тому +4

    Great Video, only addition i would add is how simple it is to add content yourself and how there is actually quite a few community datapacks and mods that already work with it despite Cobblemon beeing so new! :)

  • @daanstrik4293
    @daanstrik4293 Рік тому +1

    To me pixelmon is somebody trying to add pokemon to minecraft.
    Cobblemon meanwhile feels like somebody tried to COMBINE pokemon and minecraft.
    Cobblemon don’t feel like stat blocks with a model, they feel like actual mobs that you can interact with. I also find it a lot more convenient.

  • @eeeeee-tc8mp
    @eeeeee-tc8mp Рік тому +18

    personally, the lack of some of my favorite pokemon has made me discover new ones that i really like, such as galvantula and golurk

  • @Juanthemovie
    @Juanthemovie Рік тому

    its so cute to see that the place holder model for the pokemon that arent in the game yet is a substitute doll

  • @aquadarkskull3248
    @aquadarkskull3248 Рік тому +4

    I really hope this mod will take off. It already looks amazing, and I’m super excited to try it out myself!

  • @Danfth
    @Danfth 2 місяці тому +1

    The thumbnail: What did Piplup do wrong?

  • @williamfire3343
    @williamfire3343 Рік тому +16

    i do think players will still play pixelmon for a long time, just because of the fact that updating cobblemon and adding all the gyms, mega evolutions, legendary structures, etc... will take an absurd amount of time. And for now pixelmon is clearly better than cobblemon because of this, in cobblemon you don't even have gyms for now xD. But yes if they add all of this, it would be clear that if pixelmon doesn't add more new things, it will be overlooked.

    • @Naruku2121
      @Naruku2121 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I mean I play single player survival. Having trainers and gyms would go a long way, but I understand they have much more pressing features to add, just hope they don't ignore them.

  • @MunchyLikesOtters
    @MunchyLikesOtters Рік тому +1

    Theres no way this game will end up being more popular.
    The people that made it require you to have the payed version of minecraft while pixelmon does not, a lot of kids that wanna play this and not minecraft itself will just go to pixelmon.

  • @Rishuplayz1
    @Rishuplayz1 15 днів тому +3

    6:22 done :D

  • @butnuster4453
    @butnuster4453 Рік тому +1

    I don't think cobblemon currently passes pixelmon, but I 100% believe it will surpass pixelmon in the near or far future.

  • @jezusmylord
    @jezusmylord Рік тому +28

    this is an ad

  • @alaskaesports2700
    @alaskaesports2700 Рік тому +1

    You created a crazy illusion by using shaders only when previewing Cobblemon and not with Pixelmon, Making it immediately look like visually your Minecraft will look much better and more interesting with Cobblemon. Nice touch

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +1

      It wasn't intentional, I tried getting shaders to work in Pixelmon, but since it's not supported in Fabric or Optifine I didn't know how.

  • @charsage1036
    @charsage1036 4 місяці тому +2

    Calling something a blank killer never ends well.

  • @filippvarelis1999
    @filippvarelis1999 3 місяці тому +1

    Just got this recommended to me, I will definitely check it out. Are there any mods you recommend pairing with Cobblemon?

  • @mayclarque4123
    @mayclarque4123 Рік тому +17

    Ironically, extremely old versions of pixelmon (2.3 or so) had squarer, more Minecraft-looking models. As the versions went on, they smoothened all of them out.

    • @mackiexoxo8193
      @mackiexoxo8193 Рік тому +2

      Yeah! That's the one I knew, and seeing the models so smooth now... it creeped me out.

    • @IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle
      @IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle Рік тому +20

      I actually quite like the smoother, higher res models. I know it's supposed to be Minecraft, but the blockier versions just look... Weirder to me, somehow. Maybe this is because I grew up with Pixelmon, so whenever a pokemon got an updated design it looked really cool to me lol.
      Extremely unlikely, but I do hope they maybe implement an option to switch between high res and blockier models when they run out of things to add to the mod and/or don't get sued by Nintendo haha

  • @startedlizard8678
    @startedlizard8678 Рік тому +1

    You can shear wooloo and mareep in reforged, as well as milk miltanks

  • @DrDinker
    @DrDinker 8 місяців тому +4

    Well this aged like spoiled milk😅

    • @germanfedyunin4803
      @germanfedyunin4803 8 місяців тому +3

      how?

    • @mechatengu7368
      @mechatengu7368 6 місяців тому +2

      At least explain how? 😅

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 6 місяців тому +2

      They say that people still wonder why to this day...

  • @SignalRaptor_
    @SignalRaptor_ Місяць тому +1

    The only real issue I have with pixelmon and (probably) cobblemon is that they don't scale level of wild encounters with proximity to spawn. it's like you're permanently playing a randomizer with every setting turned on, and now route 1 is victory road.
    Also the pixelmon reforged mod has lost all my respect when I opened the jar file to change music off of the _single jarring tropical combat theme_ because I could tell in the json file that it supported multiple sound files, and when I asked in the support channels How this should be implemented, they threatened to ban me for daring to unpack the jar file.

  • @arcanine_enjoyer
    @arcanine_enjoyer Рік тому +3

    The only scary thing about this mod is if it will live up to the customization of Pixelmon. I always enjoyed making maps with Pixelmon, and I want all the mechanics to be game-accurate so I can simulate impossible Showdown fights in them. I know it'll take a while for those features to be added, so at the moment I only see this as an aesthetic replacement. And also, the best model in the game is obviously the Arcanine!

  • @aaron4th2001
    @aaron4th2001 9 місяців тому +2

    The moment I saw Cobbleman the moment I watched it around it's early release, I immediately knew this is going to be the superior mod overall, while I do appreciate Pixelmon for being the first and have made me happy during its gameplay, I'd have to choose Cobblemon for sticking to minecraft's style, graphics, aesthethics and quality of life, it's all great, I remembered Pixelmon used to have sound effects for ball wiggles and capture (might be misremembering) it just felt that they pushed too many features before polishing existing ones which made it felt like a rushed(if you can say that's rushed with slow updates) mod or inadequately developed mod

  • @CornKing137
    @CornKing137 Рік тому +7

    2:13 WTF 😂😂😂

    • @MonocleMC
      @MonocleMC  Рік тому +1

      Read the pinned comment

    • @CornKing137
      @CornKing137 Рік тому

      @@MonocleMC i was refering to the zubat face flat on the floor

  • @ovstorm1163
    @ovstorm1163 2 місяці тому +2

    I love that the healing station is cheaper. I remember playing pixelmon and my Pokémon were in bad shape. So I checked the recepie for a healing station and it used a DIAMOND I barely had iron tools!

    • @lukas3449
      @lukas3449 2 місяці тому +1

      Lol same, it was always a pain.

    • @chrish8111
      @chrish8111 2 місяці тому

      God forbid you have to mine in minecraft 😭😢 barely have iron tools?? MINE to CRAFT 😂😂😂😂

    • @asphealkindofguy9674
      @asphealkindofguy9674 2 місяці тому +1

      You now require a diamond and a ghast tear. I know this makes it harder to get, but your pokémon already heal over time.

  • @lassehgh7459
    @lassehgh7459 Рік тому +5

    this guy was paid to say that you cant be serious about half the stuff plus you can even pick the gen 2 starters it feels unfinnshed asf

  • @ExplodingParrotChannel
    @ExplodingParrotChannel Рік тому +1

    All they really need to do is add attack animations and it'll be automatically better than Pixelmon.

  • @Funky_Soul
    @Funky_Soul Рік тому +7

    pixelmon is waaaay better

  • @JSYETI
    @JSYETI Рік тому +1

    I do hope that they have the ability to use the flying types to fly and have different sizes of pokemon like pixelmon, gives a feel of uniqueness

  • @DarkestVoid
    @DarkestVoid 2 місяці тому +3

    3D sprites alone make Pixelmon better.

  • @brandonroberts7081
    @brandonroberts7081 Рік тому +2

    I've been playing pixelmon on and off since I was a child and it was new. Cobblemon feels nostalgic to me for some reason, and this fits the future vision I wanted to see when I was a kid, I really hated that the models drifted away into the garbage they are today and I'm glad this mod exists.