Last August I made this huge list in my notes app about what cartoons would fit into what anime demographics. Mine were Shonen: Ben 10, the DC and Marvel cartoons, TMNT, Adventure Time, Regular Show, Transformers etc Shojo: Winx Club, WITCH, MLP, Amphibia, The Owl House, Powerpuff Girls Seinen: Pretty much every [adult swim] cartoon Josei: Bee and Puppycat and Tuca and Bertie Minna (everyone): 6teen, Infinity Train, Centaurworld, Total Drama, Arcane Kodomomuke: Every single preschool show, most of the classic WB and Hanna-Barbera cartoons, SpongeBob, most Nicktoons in general, Molly McGee, Peanuts
From the very first episode of Moon Girl, I immediately thought "Cardcaptor Sakura"! That show is one of THE non anime anime of all time! They even have a One Piece reference in the boardwalk ep! Found out earlier that for the longest, the Simpsons writers crew didn't allow women on (allegedly). Funny how a series that's "universal" can't have too many women, and specifically well written ones. And there's a big problem with series that focus on girls in high school where the characters were clearly written as adults. More encouragement for people to enjoy that time of their life without having pressure to seem grown.
Something something men are considered the default and "universal" while women are considered a lesser category that only relates to women. Which is why girls can watch boy shows, but boys "can't" watch girl shows.
What demographic would you put My Life as a Teenage Robot into? I would say shojo because it focuses on the female lead's issues and saving the world and is a magical girl but it's a robot girl but like with Kim Possible like you said it seems more shonen.
I'd say shoujo. Not every shoujo is bright and girly and saccharine and pink yk. (no shade to the shows that are tho bc I love them) and even the ones that are can have dark moments, action sequences, and grossout humor. Personally, I think sorting shows into gender demographics is stupid(not this video, just in general). While I can understand that some shows are just designed to be enjoyed more by girls or are made primarily with girls in mind and that's okay, pigeonholing shows so firmly into such tight and mutually-exclusive boxes of "for girls/women" "for boys/men" is really shallow and restrictive and prevents people, especially boys, from being able/allowed to branch out and watch shows that aren't for their target demographic, and also often relies on stereotypes(like that girls enjoy romance and soft cutesy things while boys enjoy action and toilet humor). You can have your "girly shows" sure, and I enjoy them as well, but we shouldn't categorize them as "this is a girl's show" since that's essentially just saying "only girls can watch it, boys are not allowed" which is how you get entire generations of boys watching girls shows in secret but being ashamed of them because they'll be made fun of. I mean even in this video you see how many shows got put into more than one category. Which just proves how superfluous and binary these ridiculous little labels of "for girls" and "for boys" are, especially regarding tv shows.
also I love how Miraculous Ladybug is one of the first CGI animated cartoon in the 2010's to have an older age demographic (this animation style is usually geared towards small children)
What do you think about My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and MLP: Equestria Girls? I feel like Friendship Is Magic is seinen and Equestria Girls is shojo.
I think they would both be shoujo. Friendship is Magic might have a threateningly large adult male fanbase but that doesn’t make them the target audience. It was still made for little girls.
Its an anime and it might be seinen, but I think Akiba Maid War, despite how bloody and violent it is, i think is Josei. The bloody violence is mostly played for dark comedy (except for a couple of moments). I hope you check it out cuz it just... spoke to me
Unpopular opinion, but I would rank Totally Spies as a seinen. While it is in the West, a very girl-aimed show, I think as an anime it would be seinen because for one many seinen anime do look typically girly and cutesy to western eyes and center around female characters, if not entirely female casts. Examples of this include: Love Live, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, K-On, Kaguya-Sama: Love is War, Lyrical Nanoha, YuruYuri, and Hidamari Sketch. Shonen anime also has their fair share of "girly/cute girls doing cute things/romance/female-led" works: Azumanga Daioh, Lucky Star, Princess Tutu, Toradora!, Inuyasha, Soul Eater, Frieren, Claymore, Yotsubato, the list goes on. But for now we're talking about seinen. For two, there are many rather...uncomfortable fanservice scenes that are very blatantly aimed at the male gaze. Totally Spies has garnered a reputation of being a "fetish fuel series" and it's easy to see why. There are episodes where the female characters often find themselves without clothes/with their clothes shrinking, and there are also many episodes where a male character pervs on them while they're naked or in the shower. While shoujo often does have those uncomfortable scenes, it is much more egregious and common in male-aimed anime. So yeah, that's why I think it would be a seinen anime.
I would rank Totally Spies as something you would think is shoujo but you'd look it up and be surprised that it's a seinen. The reason is that it's similar to a lot of seinen to me. Totally Spies had a lot of creepy fanservice which is all throughout seinen, plus in Japan, grown-ass men LOVE watching cute teenage girls going about their daily lives. On top of that, some of the school life seinen I've watched seem pretty childish.
I think Totally Spies would still be shoujo, even with the creepy undertones. I say this mainly because some shoujo also have or imply some creepy undertones too.
It's not just the shows that has some anime influence in them. The characters fit into anime archetypes as well. Stock Shonen Hero: *Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender) *Korra (The Legend of Korra) *Danny Phantom *Finn the Human (Adventure Time) *Spider-Man *Jimmy Neutron *TMNT *Luz Noceda (The Owl House) *Anne Boonchuy (Amphibia) *Mordecai and Rigby (Regular Show) *Randy Cunningham *Jake Long (American Dragon Jake Long) *Ben 10 *Bart Simpson (The Simpsons) *Steven Universe Stock Shonen Rival: *Zuko (Avatar: The Last Airbender) *Kevin Levin (Ben 10) *LaCienaga Boulevardez (The Proud Family) Stock Seinen Hero: *Huey Freeman (The Boondocks) *Homer Simpson (The Simpsons) *Pretty much a lot of adult cartoon protagonists Stock Shojo Heroine: *Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Ladybug (Miraculous Ladybug) *Penny Proud (The Proud Family) *Luz Noceda (The Owl House) *Anne Boonchuy (Amphibia)
I disagree that Aang is the stock shonen hero. He is very in touch with his feminine side and has many feminine qualities. He also isn't obsessed with being "the greatest in the world" like Deku and Naruto. I think that Aang is a hero that can appeal to all genders. (although so can many shoujo heroines)
@@imthebossmermaid3648 Likewise, Disney Princesses like Mulan and Merida are more like Shonen Heroes than Shojo Heroines. They display common shonen traits, such as having big-end goals and being stubborn hard-workers. Hell, Raya is more of a Seinen Hero, given her cynical and mostly stoical personality.
@@elmtreecomics6036 I suppose. I already said it to someone asking where teenage robot would fit in this convo but I think it's really binary and pointless to pigeonhole shows(especially western shows, as anime gender demographics are more complicated than cartoons in the west) as being "for boys" or "for girls". Doesn't mean you can't have a more girly show like Moon Girl or My Little Pony which is made with girls in mind, or a more boyish show like Gumball or Teen Titans, but I don't like the idea that certain shows are "for girls" or "for boys" especially for reasons that are largely very stereotypical. I feel like we should instead allow all shows regardless of their gender makeup(or how typically feminine/masculine they are) to be enjoyed by all genders so that either gender can watch what they want and not be ostracized for it, especially boys who are too often mocked for watching "girl's" shows and steered away from them as a result, due to the idea that stuff for girls are lesser. It's as ridiculous and pointless as Happy Meals coming with a "girl's toy" or "boy's toy". This isn't your fault, by the way, it's just something I've noticed.
Something I feel like should be said about this media is that WEBTOONs and Webcomics absolutely have stuff that appeals to girls and women more. I know its tiring to see the umpteenth "reincarnated as the villain's uncle's side chick's servant's wife: becoming a villainess" comics bit there are a lot more to read. The Cursed Princess Club: an amazing and surprisingly funny and mature series about family, relationships, trauma, beauty standards and insecurity. The only thing I'd maybe say is that the way dark skinned characters are drawn could do with some work, but other than that I'd highly recommend to anyone, but especially women and girls. Shiloh/Nevermore: two series written and illustrated by the same duo of queer women, one is a supernatural dystopian thriller led by a black woman, the other is a gothic romamce set in purgatory. They feel very seinen and josei respectively, and I'm kind of obsessed with them. Not Even Bones: an adaptation of a book series - featuring a latina protagonist who interacts with the supernatural black market. It has some really cool imagery and internal conflict, probably fits into the seinen or josei categories. So yeah, I know its irritating to see so little content with a female demographic in mind, but there are new artists and platforms every day to explore.
This is semi off topic. But heather is half asian. Her father is white And yes Noah is south asian. Or indian, unlike the other he not really a stereotypical. More like the better indian David spade.
There's also a 5th anime category called"kodomoduke" and it's for very young children.
I was thinking the exact same thing
From the looks of it, I think Kiff would fit in there. Like Pokemon.
Last August I made this huge list in my notes app about what cartoons would fit into what anime demographics. Mine were
Shonen: Ben 10, the DC and Marvel cartoons, TMNT, Adventure Time, Regular Show, Transformers etc
Shojo: Winx Club, WITCH, MLP, Amphibia, The Owl House, Powerpuff Girls
Seinen: Pretty much every [adult swim] cartoon
Josei: Bee and Puppycat and Tuca and Bertie
Minna (everyone): 6teen, Infinity Train, Centaurworld, Total Drama, Arcane
Kodomomuke: Every single preschool show, most of the classic WB and Hanna-Barbera cartoons, SpongeBob, most Nicktoons in general, Molly McGee, Peanuts
Honestly, putting it this way it seems more organized for my brain and it just makes sense! Thank you for sharing! 💙
I absolutely agree with this list
The protagonists fit into anime archetypes as well to appeal to the demographics.
From the very first episode of Moon Girl, I immediately thought "Cardcaptor Sakura"! That show is one of THE non anime anime of all time! They even have a One Piece reference in the boardwalk ep! Found out earlier that for the longest, the Simpsons writers crew didn't allow women on (allegedly). Funny how a series that's "universal" can't have too many women, and specifically well written ones.
And there's a big problem with series that focus on girls in high school where the characters were clearly written as adults. More encouragement for people to enjoy that time of their life without having pressure to seem grown.
They also had a Naruto reference in the episode with the evil chess robot lol
Something something men are considered the default and "universal" while women are considered a lesser category that only relates to women. Which is why girls can watch boy shows, but boys "can't" watch girl shows.
The title of this video got me interested
You can't convince me that Lunella Lafayete isn't a magical girl, like you said, MMGDD is THE perfect shojo! And it's amazing! ✨️
This is such a pretty cool idea! Infinity Train as a series feels like one of those shows that moved genres mid-series run. From shounen to seinen.
What demographic would you put My Life as a Teenage Robot into? I would say shojo because it focuses on the female lead's issues and saving the world and is a magical girl but it's a robot girl but like with Kim Possible like you said it seems more shonen.
Maybe Seinen?
I'd say shoujo. Not every shoujo is bright and girly and saccharine and pink yk. (no shade to the shows that are tho bc I love them) and even the ones that are can have dark moments, action sequences, and grossout humor.
Personally, I think sorting shows into gender demographics is stupid(not this video, just in general). While I can understand that some shows are just designed to be enjoyed more by girls or are made primarily with girls in mind and that's okay, pigeonholing shows so firmly into such tight and mutually-exclusive boxes of "for girls/women" "for boys/men" is really shallow and restrictive and prevents people, especially boys, from being able/allowed to branch out and watch shows that aren't for their target demographic, and also often relies on stereotypes(like that girls enjoy romance and soft cutesy things while boys enjoy action and toilet humor). You can have your "girly shows" sure, and I enjoy them as well, but we shouldn't categorize them as "this is a girl's show" since that's essentially just saying "only girls can watch it, boys are not allowed" which is how you get entire generations of boys watching girls shows in secret but being ashamed of them because they'll be made fun of. I mean even in this video you see how many shows got put into more than one category. Which just proves how superfluous and binary these ridiculous little labels of "for girls" and "for boys" are, especially regarding tv shows.
also I love how Miraculous Ladybug is one of the first CGI animated cartoon in the 2010's to have an older age demographic (this animation style is usually geared towards small children)
Curious to know where you'd put a series like Total Drama Island? Sometimes it feels like a mix of all four, at least to me.
kinda of shonen or for Minna(everyone)??? I think
the first three seasons and TDAS are shoujo; TDROTI is shonen; TDRR is minna; TDPI, TDR and TD23 are codomomuke
What do you think about My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and MLP: Equestria Girls? I feel like Friendship Is Magic is seinen and Equestria Girls is shojo.
I think they would both be shoujo. Friendship is Magic might have a threateningly large adult male fanbase but that doesn’t make them the target audience. It was still made for little girls.
I was having such a hard day, thank you for making this, this really made my day
Glad to know your having a better day ❤ also recently subscribed and I enjoy your content!!
@@oofertooter thank you 🥺🥺
13:05 OMG YES KIFF! I love this show! ❤
What demographic would you put Rocko's Modern Life into?
What demographic would you put The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack into?
The beads ASMR joke at the beginning was unexpected so it had me rolling laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Its an anime and it might be seinen, but I think Akiba Maid War, despite how bloody and violent it is, i think is Josei. The bloody violence is mostly played for dark comedy (except for a couple of moments).
I hope you check it out cuz it just... spoke to me
30:08 30 Rock, Parks and Recs, Schitt's Creek
Unpopular opinion, but I would rank Totally Spies as a seinen. While it is in the West, a very girl-aimed show, I think as an anime it would be seinen because for one many seinen anime do look typically girly and cutesy to western eyes and center around female characters, if not entirely female casts. Examples of this include: Love Live, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, K-On, Kaguya-Sama: Love is War, Lyrical Nanoha, YuruYuri, and Hidamari Sketch. Shonen anime also has their fair share of "girly/cute girls doing cute things/romance/female-led" works: Azumanga Daioh, Lucky Star, Princess Tutu, Toradora!, Inuyasha, Soul Eater, Frieren, Claymore, Yotsubato, the list goes on. But for now we're talking about seinen.
For two, there are many rather...uncomfortable fanservice scenes that are very blatantly aimed at the male gaze. Totally Spies has garnered a reputation of being a "fetish fuel series" and it's easy to see why. There are episodes where the female characters often find themselves without clothes/with their clothes shrinking, and there are also many episodes where a male character pervs on them while they're naked or in the shower. While shoujo often does have those uncomfortable scenes, it is much more egregious and common in male-aimed anime. So yeah, that's why I think it would be a seinen anime.
I would rank Totally Spies as something you would think is shoujo but you'd look it up and be surprised that it's a seinen. The reason is that it's similar to a lot of seinen to me. Totally Spies had a lot of creepy fanservice which is all throughout seinen, plus in Japan, grown-ass men LOVE watching cute teenage girls going about their daily lives. On top of that, some of the school life seinen I've watched seem pretty childish.
I think Totally Spies would still be shoujo, even with the creepy undertones. I say this mainly because some shoujo also have or imply some creepy undertones too.
@@Zarugoza5969 like Cardcaptor Sakura, it literally has a teacher-student romance 💀
@@sandystudios223 Only in the manga, though. Although it did also have(thankfully unrequited) incest.
THE BEADS
It's not just the shows that has some anime influence in them. The characters fit into anime archetypes as well.
Stock Shonen Hero:
*Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
*Korra (The Legend of Korra)
*Danny Phantom
*Finn the Human (Adventure Time)
*Spider-Man
*Jimmy Neutron
*TMNT
*Luz Noceda (The Owl House)
*Anne Boonchuy (Amphibia)
*Mordecai and Rigby (Regular Show)
*Randy Cunningham
*Jake Long (American Dragon Jake Long)
*Ben 10
*Bart Simpson (The Simpsons)
*Steven Universe
Stock Shonen Rival:
*Zuko (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
*Kevin Levin (Ben 10)
*LaCienaga Boulevardez (The Proud Family)
Stock Seinen Hero:
*Huey Freeman (The Boondocks)
*Homer Simpson (The Simpsons)
*Pretty much a lot of adult cartoon protagonists
Stock Shojo Heroine:
*Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Ladybug (Miraculous Ladybug)
*Penny Proud (The Proud Family)
*Luz Noceda (The Owl House)
*Anne Boonchuy (Amphibia)
I disagree that Aang is the stock shonen hero. He is very in touch with his feminine side and has many feminine qualities. He also isn't obsessed with being "the greatest in the world" like Deku and Naruto. I think that Aang is a hero that can appeal to all genders. (although so can many shoujo heroines)
@@imthebossmermaid3648 Steven Universe is like that as well.
@@elmtreecomics6036 You're right!
@@imthebossmermaid3648 Likewise, Disney Princesses like Mulan and Merida are more like Shonen Heroes than Shojo Heroines. They display common shonen traits, such as having big-end goals and being stubborn hard-workers.
Hell, Raya is more of a Seinen Hero, given her cynical and mostly stoical personality.
@@elmtreecomics6036 I suppose. I already said it to someone asking where teenage robot would fit in this convo but I think it's really binary and pointless to pigeonhole shows(especially western shows, as anime gender demographics are more complicated than cartoons in the west) as being "for boys" or "for girls". Doesn't mean you can't have a more girly show like Moon Girl or My Little Pony which is made with girls in mind, or a more boyish show like Gumball or Teen Titans, but I don't like the idea that certain shows are "for girls" or "for boys" especially for reasons that are largely very stereotypical. I feel like we should instead allow all shows regardless of their gender makeup(or how typically feminine/masculine they are) to be enjoyed by all genders so that either gender can watch what they want and not be ostracized for it, especially boys who are too often mocked for watching "girl's" shows and steered away from them as a result, due to the idea that stuff for girls are lesser. It's as ridiculous and pointless as Happy Meals coming with a "girl's toy" or "boy's toy". This isn't your fault, by the way, it's just something I've noticed.
Hope to see you at momo con! Love your channel❤❤
There is also Kodomo, anime for little kids with no gender destinction
Something I feel like should be said about this media is that WEBTOONs and Webcomics absolutely have stuff that appeals to girls and women more. I know its tiring to see the umpteenth "reincarnated as the villain's uncle's side chick's servant's wife: becoming a villainess" comics bit there are a lot more to read.
The Cursed Princess Club: an amazing and surprisingly funny and mature series about family, relationships, trauma, beauty standards and insecurity. The only thing I'd maybe say is that the way dark skinned characters are drawn could do with some work, but other than that I'd highly recommend to anyone, but especially women and girls.
Shiloh/Nevermore: two series written and illustrated by the same duo of queer women, one is a supernatural dystopian thriller led by a black woman, the other is a gothic romamce set in purgatory. They feel very seinen and josei respectively, and I'm kind of obsessed with them.
Not Even Bones: an adaptation of a book series - featuring a latina protagonist who interacts with the supernatural black market. It has some really cool imagery and internal conflict, probably fits into the seinen or josei categories.
So yeah, I know its irritating to see so little content with a female demographic in mind, but there are new artists and platforms every day to explore.
Girl Webtoons is entirely for girls
@@purpleclaws202 Not always.
The thing I will say, before watching, is that Tuca and Bertie is josei
yup
This is semi off topic. But heather is half asian. Her father is white
And yes Noah is south asian. Or indian, unlike the other he not really a stereotypical. More like the better indian David spade.
Loved the video! Will you ever do a part 2 in the future? only if you want just asking