The Man Who NERFED Magnus - Spirit.Collapse

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • Valve nerfed Magnus after The International 10 because of Collapse Horn Toss and Skewer plays
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 128

  • @ariereynaldy7602
    @ariereynaldy7602 2 роки тому +100

    TI3 Hook Dendi Express, TI10 SKewer Collapse Express xD

    • @gamaf2409
      @gamaf2409 2 роки тому +11

      TI 9 TIny airline Express

    • @Ali-Bora23
      @Ali-Bora23 2 роки тому

      Dont ever compare those two again

    • @exdre8559
      @exdre8559 2 роки тому +2

      @@Ali-Bora23 He didn't compare them relax

    • @Ali-Bora23
      @Ali-Bora23 2 роки тому

      @@exdre8559 dont even say them im the same sentence

    • @chivaljazz
      @chivaljazz 2 роки тому +3

      @@Ali-Bora23 so what you will do? What can you even if he compares.

  • @sentimentscity26
    @sentimentscity26 2 роки тому +68

    Collapse - The man who nerfed Magnus
    Jerax - The man who nerfed Earth Spirit
    Ana - The man who buffed the fountain and nerfed the io

    • @basictv3435
      @basictv3435 2 роки тому +19

      Miracle- the man who nerfed invoker
      Miracle- the man who nerfed arc warden
      Miracle- the man who kill Roshan in 1sec.
      Miracle- the man who depence the base in the history

    • @zhandossmagulov2115
      @zhandossmagulov2115 2 роки тому

      @@basictv3435 pfff

    • @ameame32
      @ameame32 2 роки тому +1

      Wasn't that arc warden play similar to how topson did his defense but for the t4 towers in ti8? Also killing roshan in 1 sec. is been here for years remember that rubick one shot roshan?

    • @batochirtamjid6584
      @batochirtamjid6584 2 роки тому +2

      @@basictv3435 yeah that is true

    • @Faradars1
      @Faradars1 2 роки тому +1

      @@basictv3435 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @FrightTVAnimations
    @FrightTVAnimations 2 роки тому +90

    The man who also spawned thousands of Magnus throwers in pub games

  • @anbu999
    @anbu999 2 роки тому +41

    "Not technically a die back, it is a respawned and die immediately"

    • @H4FI2
      @H4FI2 2 роки тому

      lol burn

  • @atakama6375
    @atakama6375 2 роки тому +92

    Icefrog: The man who nerfed CM.

    • @nbhage2178
      @nbhage2178 2 роки тому

      She still needs a nerf

    • @FuNoK83
      @FuNoK83 2 роки тому

      is that kinda meme all about this CM nerf? how has she been nerved?

  • @duandabriandika
    @duandabriandika 2 роки тому +137

    i actually think magnus isnt a broken hero before the nerfed, its just because collapse using it very well (imo)

    • @celeste388
      @celeste388 2 роки тому +24

      Isn't broken? The horn toss skewer didnt even gave players room to counter react. The moment you got horn tossed, you're done.
      Why did you think they changed Horn toss to a 100% slow, that's to give players room to counter the combo

    • @georgeallison6528
      @georgeallison6528 2 роки тому +24

      Only Arise could make this hero really work without horn toss back then. Collapse's positioning was godlike indeed, but horn toss made things way easier.

    • @mza3544
      @mza3544 2 роки тому +2

      Horn toss cast time was waaay to fast even before the collapse incident. I once watched mason screaming at his tide for not ravaging in time but the cast time is just too quick

    • @SheaSyz
      @SheaSyz 2 роки тому +3

      yes , magnus is not that goodd
      it just magnus follow up at this video was really good
      their ally react fast from collapse skewer,
      if he skewer and team didnt react , probably it will team wipe from magnus fault
      just like how if it skewer enigma, tide, or some aoe hero, or strong aoe carry
      you can see collapse got rekted while skewer centa

    • @w1ngk
      @w1ngk 2 роки тому +1

      Are you even following the matches, even analyst and some pro player mention that horn toss aoe too big, cast time is fast and cd is low before international 10. Magnus has the same level of broken to tiny in that patch.

  • @gamerx3972
    @gamerx3972 2 роки тому +7

    5:40 the way she says yatoro

  • @hydroman08
    @hydroman08 2 роки тому +11

    horn toss in that patch was like an abyssal blade

  • @sinhaboyy5639
    @sinhaboyy5639 2 роки тому +25

    Yatoro's hero pool is unreal. The lad just likes playing whatever he gets on.

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 2 роки тому

      You should see my hero pool it’s huge too when I play in ti you’ll see

    • @MaximaToluene
      @MaximaToluene 2 роки тому +3

      Is it yatoro or his team creates a great space he just gets fat like crazy

    • @quickstrings9505
      @quickstrings9505 2 роки тому

      @@KidTrigger Stay strong buddy

    • @vacdota5516
      @vacdota5516 2 роки тому

      @@MaximaToluene it is.. yatoro..
      imagine doin all hero challenge scoring rampage after rampage on TI, and actually winning

  • @WoloW1zard-
    @WoloW1zard- 2 роки тому +8

    17:48 who uses minimap to skewer @@

    • @Marschal.A
      @Marschal.A 2 роки тому

      Yeah that this man mouse movement unpredictable and so fast

  • @lexsaito1189
    @lexsaito1189 2 роки тому +4

    that skewer cancel wow 10:47

  • @ЖакуповКуаныш
    @ЖакуповКуаныш 2 роки тому +5

    На групповой стадии TI10 он говорил что лучший на магнусе после Arise .тогда я подумал ничего себе самооценка

  • @arsgg6090
    @arsgg6090 2 роки тому +25

    Heroes nerf are normal through patch.. he's still cant beat the io god ana.. the one who's buffed fountain itself..

  • @Marschal.A
    @Marschal.A 2 роки тому

    That force staff click is actually for dark willow but tiny blink in in the click are thats why the force staff goes to tiny rather than dw

    • @saishlad7977
      @saishlad7977 2 роки тому

      If he wanted to force dw, he would’ve done it quite early there

  • @ravekid5282
    @ravekid5282 2 роки тому +3

    Сильный герой в руках обычного узника - выстрел себе в колени, сильный герой в руках сильного игрока - это имба. Валв этого не понимают. Большинство челов даже не щнали про силу магнуса до колапса, а как узнали мало что изменилось. Герой как имел 48% винрейта, так и имеет 48% винрейта.

    • @gunterodim1535
      @gunterodim1535 Рік тому

      магнус всегда был средним героем. На нём нужно прям гением быть чтобы так играть, либо задрачивать десятки часов. Людям это не нужно потому что ты можешь просто пикать обоссаного клинкза или зевса и поднимать ммр

  • @akmallisham4952
    @akmallisham4952 2 роки тому +5

    And yet every captain who fight team spirit always refused to ban magnus bcoz they think they can manage.... they never respect collapse's magnus

    • @yami_curr
      @yami_curr 2 роки тому +1

      actually PSG LGD countered them 1 time with XinQ rubick
      but on last map they decided to not counter his magnus xd

    • @ytaiku
      @ytaiku 2 роки тому +1

      @@yami_curr I think because rubick is banned by TS, and they pick Skywrath to counter magnus, but it doesn't work like rubick

  • @altannedjati9861
    @altannedjati9861 2 роки тому

    Great video. what is the name of the song in the background min 14:10 ? Thank you.

  • @xxVanos
    @xxVanos 2 роки тому +3

    Arise did it better without horn toss and buff to first skill. Props to Collapse though, he plays a good Magnus.

    • @jawsdc9062
      @jawsdc9062 2 роки тому

      yeah, the horn toss made the major catches here if its not available at TI, I dont think they'd won this TI

    • @xxVanos
      @xxVanos 2 роки тому +1

      @@thechan8042 cry elsewhere.

  • @w1ngk
    @w1ngk 2 роки тому +4

    Kuku use magnus and comeback from lower bracket, collapse did use magnus incredibly well but magnus is definitely busted before collapse is using it, you can see alot of pub players are using magnus especially china, the popularity increase so much when horn toss is introduce.
    magnus is just like, navi picking chen + pudge, it falls to the wrong hand and "how is this balance" quote.

    • @fadwen88
      @fadwen88 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly! Horn Toss was so damn eady to land, didnt even need to target it. You just blindly pull off Blink Horntoss Skewer back and it was 100% guaranteed to land.

  • @JS_246
    @JS_246 2 роки тому +1

    How is S4 supposed to compete in TI if they keep nerfing him?

  • @structuredchaos6784
    @structuredchaos6784 2 роки тому +1

    2:50 bonk

  • @ФедорГеоргиевич-ь1ю

    Переводчик Яндекс Браузера с ума сошел, когда включил)))

  • @Rockycm1
    @Rockycm1 2 роки тому

    3:05 how did they know that AXE was there???

  • @AceADawg
    @AceADawg 2 роки тому +1

    BEST Magnus to ever do it.....Ti champion

  • @naofumi6977
    @naofumi6977 2 роки тому +2

    Don't forget the man who buff the fountain🤣

  • @Линт
    @Линт 2 роки тому +7

    Отличное достижение, но человек, который баффнул фонтан на другом уровне.

  • @daud0778
    @daud0778 2 роки тому +2

    Also every team: meh let's not ban magnus

    • @jpimentel1738
      @jpimentel1738 2 роки тому +2

      Collapse is good on mars and tide higher win rate lol

    • @kekro7660
      @kekro7660 2 роки тому

      @@jpimentel1738 even his doom is effin scary

  • @joyfulrochansang2382
    @joyfulrochansang2382 2 роки тому

    Its this type of people who change dota. He hardly plays pubs. Yet demolishes players who dominate pubs.

  • @noobfromsea5900
    @noobfromsea5900 2 роки тому

    Thanks for giving us the enjoyment TSpirit.Magnus 😍

  • @Faradars1
    @Faradars1 2 роки тому

    What was the nerf?

  • @opacaropjile
    @opacaropjile 2 роки тому +2

    Nope, Ar1se^ was just under-rated and didn't have a good team.

  • @banner7925
    @banner7925 Рік тому

    I mean, the toss being a hard stun is kinda op

  • @kazookiddo7605
    @kazookiddo7605 2 роки тому +6

    Nahh, Jerax is way better. He is the man who nerfed Earth Spirit and Tiny.

  • @SLABONECHD
    @SLABONECHD 2 роки тому

    este magnus les hizo el torneo en gran parte

  • @Ainzel_Klien
    @Ainzel_Klien 2 роки тому +1

    But why not just ban his Magnus tho.

  • @nuub82
    @nuub82 2 роки тому +1

    I wouldn't say he's the man that nerfed magnus. I mean bro, literally everyone picks magnus a lot. Because all of them knows how broken he is since the beginning of tournament

  • @likulaki6672
    @likulaki6672 2 роки тому

    TI 10 NO BAN MAGNUS? WIN.
    TI 9 NO BAND IO?WIN.

  • @fadwen88
    @fadwen88 2 роки тому +2

    ... guys, lets not pretend like Horn Toss was a hard to utilize ability :) it was literally the most OP shit ever. You could do the combo just automatically, Blink Horntoss Skewer back. You hit 100%. No offense but 4k plebs pulled off thr same shit, it was the Supports who nerfed it. The Visiongame was insane, and without it, those Pickoffs never would have happend.
    Not to take away something from TI Winners, but im kinda tired of people acting like that shit was hard to pull off.

    • @936alex2
      @936alex2 2 роки тому +1

      Collapse is good but overrated.... Nobody even remember game 5 where TT was killing the backlines only for magnus to dominatem... Collapse is best pos3 but still is very overrated..

    • @936alex2
      @936alex2 2 роки тому +1

      Your statement so true...when faith bian also use magnus he is equally danger

  • @mahadmukhtar3806
    @mahadmukhtar3806 2 роки тому +1

    laughing on opponents who knew that he has good homework on Magnus still they are not banning magnus.. :D

  • @Евгетон
    @Евгетон 2 роки тому

    А травоман РЕВОРКНУЛ текиса, и я считаю что это легендарнее

  • @jpii3427
    @jpii3427 2 роки тому

    I thought. Valve who nerf magnus. 🤔

  • @fraseinspiradoradodia
    @fraseinspiradoradodia 2 роки тому

    moster epic

  • @vincentrayalba5936
    @vincentrayalba5936 2 роки тому

    Collapse Magnus God.

  • @warewarewatandesu2058
    @warewarewatandesu2058 2 роки тому

    Show some hate boys.

  • @cornelioiii7305
    @cornelioiii7305 2 роки тому +2

    Magnus is balanced, it's just collapse's gameplay isn't

  • @whapakwhapak
    @whapakwhapak 2 роки тому

    most veteran teams in TI didnt even show respect, magnus is a game changer even before the playoff bracket and yet they barely bans it LOL

  • @oODauFinOo
    @oODauFinOo 2 роки тому

    If you think that collapse is a good Magnus, watch Ar1se playing it, you will think that collapse is a kid then

    • @justinekarlsescon8765
      @justinekarlsescon8765 2 роки тому

      A kid??? Using magnus in TI Like that?? TI finals?? Against OG? PLAying magnus like that in a biggest dota2 tournament was freakin insane. Yes I know Ar1se is good but using word kid to collapse compared to Ar1se is freakin noob.

    • @oODauFinOo
      @oODauFinOo 2 роки тому

      @@justinekarlsescon8765 Ar1se is a God Magnus, And What's so special about TI, it's a damn pro match.

    • @sandhywinartja8662
      @sandhywinartja8662 2 роки тому

      @@oODauFinOo Ofc 3k like u wont understand bro

    • @936alex2
      @936alex2 2 роки тому

      @@sandhywinartja8662 collapse magnus is horn toss skewer which is very easy ..... But collapse still best pos 3 in ti.... But why he use magnus in ti final is because lgd scared collapse mars more than his mag

    • @ricardoalcantaracampos4811
      @ricardoalcantaracampos4811 2 роки тому +1

      lmao, arise would be 5 deaths min 8 against any team on ti.

  • @starboylahat3411
    @starboylahat3411 2 роки тому +1

    It's more like the man who is lucky to use poorly developed imbalance horntoss upgrade broken magnus

  • @lazypawtato8701
    @lazypawtato8701 2 роки тому

    This woman commentator just say everything even the smallest detail lol

  • @amerhaziq
    @amerhaziq 2 роки тому

    ggwp

  • @ikubarus.6966
    @ikubarus.6966 2 роки тому

    Not Collapse nerfing magnus, rather is he is the cause magnus got nerfed.

  • @ChaoticSeaServer
    @ChaoticSeaServer 2 роки тому

    the man who wil be forgotten because he is from russia and gonna be with stuck in russia soon

  • @motnatt303
    @motnatt303 2 роки тому

    arise still better magnus

  • @korra322
    @korra322 2 роки тому

    Ar1se

  • @familykz9581
    @familykz9581 2 роки тому

    Коллапс выйграл инт

  • @exort7010
    @exort7010 2 роки тому +17

    Man who NERFED CM is more impressive for me

  • @Ортём-ф9э
    @Ортём-ф9э 2 роки тому

    Это было супер очевидно, ведь раньше приходилось правильно давать РП, поворачиваясь во время каста, а тут прыгнул нажал кнопку+оглушил, увёз, если надо продолжил РП.

    • @natutv27
      @natutv27 2 роки тому +2

      да и всегда у спирит идеальный вижен, и у соперников отключается мозг