Vintage Electronics - The Tefifon
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Here's a video about something different. A vintage German audio player that's an intriguing marriage of record and tape. PART 2: With a direct Tefifon Recording HERE: • Tefifon Part 2 - more...
Additional information - the Tefifon model I demonstrate does not have a built in speaker, although portable devices with speakers were available. The music plays from the beginning of the tape to the end in one go, at which point it needs to be stopped manually. There is no need to manually move the stylus on the tape to different songs.
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If you want to hear more - the second and final part of the video is here: ua-cam.com/video/9tTURrAWVYE/v-deo.html *it answers many common questions*
+Techmoan I really like these old tech videos, thanks for making them. What kind of record player is that on your shelf?
Yes thank you, I really dig this retro stuff and I would likely have never seen one of these crazy things without ya.
This time you really got me Techmoan, if someone had described the workings of that Tefophone I would have been skeptical ...even to a thing like that even existed. :P
You lucky bitch how do find this stuff
is that me or the reading head is actually grinding off some of the plastic band ? at 6:00 we see tiny specks of plastic detaching, it doesn't seem to be dust.
so how durable do you think these bands are ? in particular compared to stuff from the same era ?
"The reason I'm taking this one apart? It teaches Germans how to speak Italian..."
That may be the neatest piece of unknown audio gear I have ever seen.
Justin Updyke Always glad to find out that I'm not the only one who hasn't heard of something (and thinks it's interesting).
Man I wish I already knew about this its pretty cool.good old times
Surprised it wasn't a success
I think it looks like a very good and neat system and I'm at a loss as to why it wasn't more successful. All I can think of was it might have been post war anti German xenophobia.
I agree. This was a very interesting video. Thanks Techmoan!
I loved the German-language version of Little Richard's "Tutti Frutti." It sounds like a cocktail-lounge band trying to figure out what this new rock 'n' roll stuff is all about.
the singer who performed this cover is called Peter Krauss...its definitely his voice
Pre-historic Jazz Fusion
Search for: Tutti-Frutti - Peter Kraus und die "Rockies"
Sounds like AI generated music lol
It's not Peter Kraus I'm afraid. This is definitely a cover version. @@MartinMundorf
This looks like a record player that fell out of an alternate universe.
Alternate universe where Germany won WWII
@@NadDew Shades of _Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas._ "The Circus-Circus is what the whole hep world would be doing Saturday night if the Nazis had won the war. This is the sixth Reich."
It’s a very odd feeling. Almost Twilight Zone-ish.
A STEAMPUNK ALTERNATE UNIVERSE!!
Alternate universe 8-track
Basically this is the "tape" version of a vinyl record. Pretty neat concept. Also the exhibits which are shown here are in very good condition and the sound quality is VERY good, even compared to a vinyl record.
These whole things are even older than me - I was born 16 years after these were released.
It's like a record and an 8 track had a kid
I honestly didn't even know that you did cameras. I have only ever seen your sound stuff. :-)
amazing what a difference half a decade makes
Same!
I HAVE SEEN MOSTLY AUDIO VIDEOS FROM HIM ALSO
Same
same !
As a 52 year old German I have never even heard about this device. Now I finally learn about it in 2023 from an 8 year old British youtube video. Fascinating.
I think I know why the Tefifon sounds so good for its age. The grooves are linear across the length of the tape so the signal never degrades regardless where the needle is on the tape. On vinyl, the grooves become denser as you get closer to the inner portion of the record, so the sound degrades because there is less and less room for the grooves to be placed.
How funny I'm new to this channel and I haven watched a single camera video. This old tech fascinates me endlessly.
Yeah, I thought it was all about weird old audio devices.
same lol
Same here & the English accent always makes it sound much cooler
Same here, I recently found the channel - am currently watching pretty much everything bar the camera stuff!
@@raycourtsi Absolutely. I came to the comments just to see if anyone else felt the same.
The build up visible on the stylus (when viewed at a microscopic level) is the fluff and dust that's present in the 60 year old grooves on the tape (rather than the red tape getting worn away). You can see white marks on the red tape as its moving, the tape should be pure red, so anything that isn't red is 'dirt'. These things have sat around on the spools for probably 50 years so there's bound to be a bit of stuff transferred from the felt pads in the cart.
I was wondering what that was.
Techmoan I am surprised that it was in such good condition, almost like new and was really surprised how the plastic stood up over 50 years with out breaking down.
Techmoan I swear I didn't almost break out into a cold sweat when I first saw that...
As usual, great vids!
Techmoan so you are getting mony with us
Francisco Herrera Yes UA-camrs get paid for their videos, works out to about 1-7 dollars per thousand views. At least thats what I get paid.
The sound reproduction of this machine is gorgeous! It sounds like you’re right 1950s, and with bass! The fact that it’s mostly cheesy covers makes it uniquely of its time. Very cool thing. I’d totally play this at an art school party.
Just like sounds a mp3 player today..... 🙄
@@benjaminbenavidesiglesias52 Idk what MP3s you're listening to because because the ones I listen to don't sound anywhere close to that
Wish I had one of those machines.
Hipsters: "I only listen to vinyls, the sounds much better then digital or CD's offer"
Teachmoan:
My wife complained, one day that the old stereo system we had didn't do justice to her record collection from before our wedding in 1969. Now the best record machine I ever had was a Pioneer PL-50 when I was stationed in Vietnam. That machine never made it home and after that I was just trying to find something that played fairy well and in stereo. So it was off to Ebay where I found a successor to the PL50 although I don't recall the number any more, the deck sits on my entertainment system where it has remained mute since it's purchase because the wife wanted quality with a record changer, and being a professional grade turntable it would only play one record at a time. Well my wonderful wife now awaits my death so I can join her in the afterlife, having contracted cancer and passing away some 2 years ago. Saddest day in my life only 2 days after our 51st anniversary.
The levels of ingenuity in some of this old gear never fails to amaze me.
I never knew stuff like this even existed, i mean the one that he shows where its a portable record player that sits on a cover of a book like a coffee mug was pretty awesome
Back before the world went to shit
before the vaults closed
@@JohnDangcilGeekWere Nice Fallout reference.
The tape's making me hungry for those red liquorice strips.
Know the ones you mean. They go rather viscose on the surface as you lick them and have a pleasing al dente texture when you bite into them.
I wonder what amazing plastic they used, that the rubber rollers haven't perished, and the tape itself is still completely flexible! Without even threatening to snap itself into a thousand brittle pieces! That's some very good plastic. I suppose being kept away from light and air in it's cartridge, in it's little cardboard box, will have helped. But still, bloody good plastic! NASA ought to be notified!
Its made by AGFA / ORWO close related to 35mm Cinema Film
@@Schlipperschlopper interesting, thanks. I hope it's well known among people who could use it
Plastic generally has a bad rap as the material of cheap, low-quality things, but there are some amazing plastics.
@@ironcito1101 Sure but they tend to perish over long time scales. Oxygen and light don't do them any favours.
It was also made in the era of products that were built to last. Good solid, rugged design and materials unlike the garbage made today designed to break after a few years.
To come back to this again and watch the origin story of that glorious jingle you put into your videos.
It's like a little bit of magic.
For something that old that didn't catch on, IT SOUNDS F*ING AMAZING.
@uni blab Yes really
I thought so too!!
Whatever polymer that is, that's not bad for 60ish years old. Many similar rubber-like plastics would be cracked and flaking.
Fracture I thought that it would have to be soft enough that it wouldn't have any well-defined high frequencies, but it sounds great for the era.
Over all this seems like a much better format than vinyl disks.
It's not rubber-like...
Well be constructive tell us what it is like.
@@johnsmith-wx5fb
It's not soft it's flexible but not elastic, like normal tape but thicker.
It's PVC, apparently. www.radiomuseum.org/forum/tefi_cassettes_how_were_they_produced.html
Born in 1950, I thought I had seen it all, however this one is "new" to me!
Great machine!
The inside of the tape thing looks like a fruit roll up, I wanna eat it lol
The tape looks delicious.
Musik war nie so lecker.
(I know, google translate sucks.)
no step on snek wow, guess i got rather close.
Like a strawberry lace!!
That is what I was thinking when I saw the tape xD
The forbidden fruit by the foot
Looks like a device that could be straight out of Fallout
+EpicLPer Exactly what I was thinking!
+EpicLPer Yes definitely.
I was just thinking that ☺ watching the video lol.
Definitely the roots of the idea of a Halotape.
Brazil (the film, not the country)
It never ceases to amaze me how many different ways people have come up with for having recorded music. Endless inventive creativity 🎄
7:43 Ahh yes, those classic German songs "Texas-Jimmy", "Jolly Dixie" and "The Banana Boat Song."
Schlagermusik is weird.
Wer sich Schlager nüchtern anhört hat die Kontrolle über sein Leben verloren.
Laughing. Yes, it's rather like the Italian, French and German tunes that had popular versions in the UK and USA .. there were loads, this one might still sound familiar to some modern ears: ua-cam.com/video/RK--XOF3OUY/v-deo.html
@@g00st62 aber wer Schlager gar nicht hört hat eine Facette am Alkohol verpasst 😅
TheLeonhamm Whoa! I heard that song and realized that I’ve heard it in Spanish played in the Norteño genre. Lol.
TheLeonhamm I found the song! Lmao. It’s a Norteño played in a Cumbia rhythm.
ua-cam.com/video/gOz7NsOyah8/v-deo.html
8:57 So that's where the music in the shorts at the end of your videos comes from!
it's like if a record and an 8-track had a baby. :D
Roo I was about to say it
Brilliant!
In that case the floppy disk must be it's little sister.
the way the "tape" looks up close makes me think of cranberry sauce lol
still brilliant!
"The best thing about this particular cartridge is that once you get tired of listening to the tape, you can actually eat it."
That is a very cool machine. Never heard of this concept of a groove on a tape in a cartridge. Still very good audio quality. The Germans made some interesting audio devices over the decades. Thanks for sharing.
This thing was so ahead of its time, amazingly futuristic compared to contemporary systems and still holds up pretty well today, save for the weird plugs.
What a wonderful thing. A very long thin vinyl record
looks like the Tefifon is running a bit faster. the 5th Symphony is in a higher key. In fairness, the sound quality is pretty good for an obsolete media.
I fully agree with you. It sounds remarkable good.
2:40 when the tefi is pulled from the sleeve, you can see the name of the dirigent (conductor) is Otto Klemperer. He was the father of Werner ‘Col. Klink’ Klemperer.
Thats a sharp observation.
On the creepy algorithm side I watched a video about Hogans Heros yesterday with some focus on him.
The sound was pretty good for it being 60+ years old! I was expecting much lower quality...
8:58
So that's where that's from. I though you'd taken that music from some random free bgm website or from good old Kevin Macleod. Almost surreal to hear it start up as one of the tracks on that old player.
Daniel A what’s the name of the song? I have been looking on Kevin’s channel and cannot find it
@@Progamer420_69 It's not, it's actually from one of the Tefis! :D We'd always assumed that Kevin wrote it, heh.
@@Progamer420_69 Cuba Baion by Kurt Drabek
And thus a legend was born
You actually hear a snippet at 8:25 too and you can see the track listed on the Tefi label
During the 80's I worked at pizza hut. The stores had a music system, much like this, that played when the jukebox was not playing. Thanks for the video.
I vaguely remember seeing something like this when my cousin, who worked at Pizza Hut showed me around the back.
It's a record on tape. Man, that's impressive. I can't believe it didn't catch on except in Germany.
In those days people didn't run out and buy the newest tech when they had a record player and stacks of records.
This is amazing. A cross between tape and vinyl. And it sounds great. This is the first time I saw and lesson this. In the beginning of this video I understand immediately this reminds the 8 track tapes. But a tape with grooves like a record and a needle to read it! amazing.
The sound quality is very good for what it is I have to say.
So THAT'S where that enjoyable music you use for the puppets came from. Well done sir!
That outro sound suddenly descending on you! The content required significantly higher volume then the outro. You can imagine.
I remember this my grandparents had one wow this brings back memories
I keep watching this video. There's something intoxicatingly delightful about the Tefifon.
👨💻Gee you must have Alot of Antique collections got big house? 🤷♂️ or all in boxes 🐨🗯🏴☠️straya 👍
Everybody in Germany has a Tefifon. That is how we store our launch codes.
Just imagine somebody would point a giant scrapyard magnet or an EMP-KANNON on your launch computer...
Vorsprung durch Technik!
The Kaiser but it's not magnetic?
Exactly. those tapes aren't ;D
Bu the US-American launch-systems are magnetic. There was this recent discussion about how the US-Nuke-Silos still use those "ANCIENT" 5,25" floppy-disks. They are magnetic, and hence prone to EMP :P
The plastic/rubber tape above though would still be prone to heat, or scratching, or the plastic hardening & crumbling.... As just anything else used in their times :)
In Britain, we're still using punched cards for that... ;-)
Not because we believe it keeps our codes safe from foreign access, but more because our Government just can't be bothered to upgrade to anything half modern! :-p
@@MistedMind 8" floppy disks*
158k subs, mate you deserve double that. no one else that does videos in your style.
+Zombie Jesus please tell your friends...although perhaps it's my style that's putting people off.
Your style is just fine man and content super interesting,including all the stuff I wasted money on that failed.Like DCC.Change nothing please.
Learned so much from this channel. I had a dbx cassette deck and lots and lots of tapes, but the deck broke and I couldn't find a replacement. I think I tossed all my tapes, they sounded terrible on a regular tape deck. I wish I knew about standalone dbx converters...
Oliver S Now he is about 3/4's of a million subs. He deserves more as his vids are awesome and so informative and fun. So much info and research. :)
Just when you think you have seen every recorded music format.. lol
Fallout, this needs to be in Fallout. It belongs to that time. It's so sexy.
Though sadly none of the fallout games take place outside of America.
Or the Man in the High Castle
G4mmaLotus he‘s talking about the design not where it‘s from
This is an amazing technology for the era!
Absolutely fascinating piece of audio equipment and nicely engineered.
I found this absolutely amazing. The thumbnail reminded me of water filter cartridges but the product was much more exciting! Thank you for sharing :)
Ah, this is an early one! A classic! Seen it before but I thought I'd have another dip in. "Why do you only review cameras?", Things have changed since then.
Great to see Adam Savage giving you a plug :-)
Wow, that's really cool. It's amazing how many different old music formats I'm still not aware of. Great stuff. (And I was an electronics repair tech specializing in audio equipment for over 20 years)
I never heard anything about until this evening, even I'm 56... Thank for this !!!!!!
Now I need some Fruit by the Foot!
@uni blab and your that guy
I'm assuming non-Americans just think we're insane.
Just crack open a Tefi!
I've heard of these but thought they were always magnetic. Fantastic demonstration A saltwater-taffy LP
Cheers !
@Liam. You have replies turned off, that's why no one can reply to you. I'm not an expert, but it seems to often happen when you haven't linked you youtube account up to a Google+ one. Look down the list of comments and you'll see plenty of people missing the Reply button. They'll also be wondering why no one ever answers their questions too.
Techmoan I think he did that purposely. He wrote the comment and then clicked the drop down and selected 'disable replies'.
I loved listening to this tutti fruti. It was funny.
OMG, I never knew this existed! Great idea! Maybe sounds better than magnetic tapes from the same era.
+Paulo Santos If you like this...you might like the follow up video here : ua-cam.com/video/9tTURrAWVYE/v-deo.html
+Techmoan yeah, I have seen this too! It is really quite interesting!
Now, you've said these aren't magnetic tapes. So if they're stored properly, these Teffys will actually outlive these kinds of media!
Hard to imagine, really.
FieryWingedAngel : Not necessarily. These cellulose or tri-acetate bands will be subject to the same dépolymérisation over time, and can degrade seemingly overnight from a stable substrate to a sticky goo that can no longer be played mechanically. At this stage, if the content is to be recovered, optical imaging techniques will have to be employed at great expense. The contentious archivist does not make these calls based on the perceived value or importance of the content, for history has shown us we will often be mistaken about what will be considered valuable at some future date.
It's a record on tape.
Thanks captain obvious
Captain Obvious! Not the hero we want, but the hero we need!
@@not_riley The sidekick Floridaman desperately needs.
I love it. I should hire you for my imaginary company. You could be my spokesman, who could market my new flavor of edible cassettes.
That record player will outlast all new MP3's, Cellphones, Gadgets made today...the crap made today is manufactured with the idea/thought of DISPOSING IT in the trash within a 3-5 years. Were does all that crap end up?
All the crap they make now days is making some Chinese millionaires selling it to the USA and other countries. Germany however get's better built CD players then we get here in the USA. My relative in Germany has a CD player which has a felt tray that slides out on a drawer and you place the CD upside down so it never gets scratched. The CD players here the trays plastic and comes out and when closing bounces around and scratches the CD all to hell before it's fully inserted.
TekReview's Well, what you're describing sounds like the typical 90's Pioneer (Japanese brand) 'stable platter' design. Well available in those days, all over the world. See: muziekfreak.isfanatiek.nl/homepage/show/854008.jpg
jeanious2009 Not true. It is the users stupid idea to get rid of it so fast! I find most of this "crap" at our local transfer station. CD Players, MP3 players, flat screen TVs. All work fine, it is just the user wanted new.
not true. that really depends on a person who is using it. I myself take care of my personal stuff well and it's always pretty much in mint condition when I hand over it to someone else. In fact, my first mp3 player, bought early 2000, the Creative Nomad II is still with me and fully functioning.
mg23
respect. I'm still carrying my MpMan. There isn't a lot of our kind left ;)
never seen anything like this in my life..... and we laugh at today's kids that have never seen a cassette.
+id104335409 Granted, most people never saw those things when they were out. That's not something you can say about a cassette tape.
I'm a kid... And I use cassette more than CD!
+reuben Parfrey I only own one CD, I own a lot more vinyls.
***** as a dog, you must be really fond of the cylinder phonograph. At least according to that painting that Victor and EMI butchered into their logo at the beginning of 20th century.
You're not the only one. I'm wasting countless hours on this channel being amazed by all the retro-tech that's been shown to us. Sometimes my jaw falls to the floor. Not in the least if I see what effort Mat puts into these things to bring them back to life. All while he's calmly explaining what is going on.
Respect.
Amazing 1950's tech. This must be one of the first, if not the first audio cassette players.
Andrew Jenery even more amazing this was invented in the 30s this just happens to be a 50s model
Sounds surprisingly good.
and 5 years later, your retro audio equipment videos get the most plays. my how things have changed...
Depeche Mode back-catalog on Tefifon PLEASE! I want one of those.
Damn, that actually sounds good.
This is a great device. I have CDs that are scratched and unplayable but this thing still works after all these years. Works just like an 8-track but doesn't eat the tape. BTW, hearing Little Richard's "Tutti Fruiti" in German was cool.
Like 8 track tapes this was before my time. I was born in 1982, I only go as far back as compact cassettes. They still had records in 1982 however.
Its so amazing to see tech stuff from yesteryears that was cutting edge back then! 60 years from now there will be review of device called a "cell phone" that could show videos on a 2D screen.
This thing is brilliant.
Now you have a new subscriber from germany
I have watched many of your vintage vids. I often see this device in the end, been waiting for it to come up in suggestions!! This is one of my new favorites. Thanks.
That is the most bizarre device I've ever seen! Almost combining a record and tape together -- VERY cool. I am also very impressed by the great condition that unit is in!
Fascinating. I've never seen this format before. Very cool. Thank you for sharing.
the white shavings building up on the needle is giving me the strangest feeling of uncomfort
Jäffeh der Retardin Same here. won’t it break or sound bad when played a few times.?
@@jeppepedersen7006 magnet tapes wore down too, everything analog eventually wears to a point where its useless, digital either works or it doesn´t
Right? It either needs some adjustment... or that's just a design-flaw of the machine, that it eats media as it plays.
@@sandakureva could also be a protective layer that's being shaved away
@Untrepid One it doesn't matter the song, the circumstances that the thing disassemble itself bothered me
I knew someone who collected broken and outdated electronic equipment, always claiming that he would use it for spares or get it running again. In reality he just ended up with a house and two garages full of useless junk. He got more space for his useless junk when his wife left, but he didn't actually notice that she had gone for a month - he thought she was just hiding behind the stack of betamax players and Amstrad computers.
I like the way that you actually get the stuff working and make informative, entertaining vidos about it.
What a fantastic piece of weird hybrid technology. Had I had the concept described to me as a potential way of reproducing music, I would probably have dismissed it out of hand, but it clearly works, and very well too. A lot of thought clearly went into this design. Very impressive.
I wonder about the durability though. At around 6:05 it looks like the stylus is actually scraping plastic flakes off the tape, although it may just be dirt caught in the groove.
Just found out that the Tefifon was originally designed in the 1930s.
No, they say "Fick dich ins Knie, du bist nicht lustig!" :3
Idioten...
he isn't kidding, it was actually designed in the 30s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tefifon
Drop Therapy o0
1:56 Italians could plug it into their 230V power outlet by mistake :P
He lives in the UK where they have 240 so I don't think that would be a problem
Actually I don’t think it would. If you look carefully, the middle prong is flat whereas on Italian plugs it needs to be round. I guess you could force it in.... I was about to say that you would have to be pretty stupid to do that, and then remembered that we are talking about human beings!
When I was young (I think grammar school-age) my parents were the owners of a Philips gramophone (AG4025W). The speaker was connected to the gramophone by means of a plug similar to one you would plug into a wall socket. To make a short story long, one time my dad made a mistake, and put the speaker plug in the wall socket. 💥.
I don’t know how well this thing works, but it looks incredibly cool. It would fit right in to an early French “New Wave Movie.” Basically, a phonograph and a tape player had a baby, and they called it Tefifon! The grandson, of course, was the 8-track tape player.
OMG, this was Amazing! A plastic "Tape" record with groves and an actual needle! I never knew anything like this even existed! Like another viewer commented, it's like an alternate reality! Thank you for finding this unique and Very interesting device!
I can understand why it didn't take off in the US, but the sound is amazing for much of anything produced in the late 50's. I've owned and used those HUGE record player/liquor cabinet assemblies (very expensive, very heavy, and high quality speakers), and I can say that their audio playback is very similar to what you managed from the Tefifon. So it would have been comparable to a 33 1/3 RPM record (system) of the time.
However, that was shortly after the Korean War, and a lot of people would have been suspicious of anything "Foreign" that wasn't from Canada or Britain, and especially from the Germans, with the large number of WW-II vets being the major buying power at the time. Topping that with trying to get relatively current music from the US produced for the small number of Tefifons sold, and you have a recipe for disaster.
Looks like a music player out of a Bioshock game
Huh, I find myself watching your non-camera videos more than anything else. Either way, enjoyable. And always nice to learn some new information about the days I just wasn't alive for. But I love finding a video like this where I can show it to someone who LOVES vinyl and I can go, "nah man, THIS is the true way to listen to music"
So it is a record player, except that the record was warped, its hole rising and getting bigger until it matched the outside groove, and of course the material being changed from rigid to flexible, and wrapped in a cassette. Very clever! Thanks for posting this.
0:12
Ironically, this is one of the most viewed videos on this channel, and actually got featured in Gizmodo.
They have been built in Cologne-Porz, and it failed due to the failure to make enough contracts with the music industry for more modern music. So you will find mostly operettes and classical music as well as old fashioned Schlager on this medium.
That did not attract buyers to buy those machines, so people preferred to buy record players where they could buy cheap records with their beloved music!
There were nice radio consoles which featured a tefifon player, and for a long opera it has been great of not needing to change record sides every 20 minutes.
muzicktv.nr/muzinordiken!
If find it amazing that I've never heard or seen this device before, I've followed HiFi systems and playback for many decades and this is a first. Thank you for the enlightenment. This device is very clever and still sounds quite good considering it's age. What's surprising is that tape recording was already well established at this time and the designers chose a record groove and stylus system for this cartridge music format. It did work quite well but never caught on globally, still an impressive player and music format. Thank you.
This is pretty decent music quality for a 60 years old tape. I'm impressed.
8:58 - *The hymn of a legend!!!*
Thank You. Going away educated.
Amazing condition equipment and recordings.
There is nothing new under the sun...
This format could have been successful with the right marketing in North America. The sound quality is great, its rather small device and the cartridges are cute.
After watching the video I have come to the conclusion that I know very little about the different types of music playing machines there is lot more to learn about them thanks for this precious informative video
8:06 Sounds quality is actually quite good
"That was possibly one of the worst covers of Tutti Fruiti ever."
Agreed, lol.
Must say I'm super impressed by the sound quality
Fascinating look at an old piece of high technology
Combine a vinyl record and an 8 track and BAM! Tefifon!
Aaron Ries I have a Vinyl. I have an 8-track.Ugh! Tefifon.
lol I just got that
Happy LP lol