I got Zwag on my team in an ARAM once. He got Lucian. I forgot my champion and I ran it down. I also got MrBeast in ARAM. He got Teemo. I got Aurelion Sol and I ran that game down as well.
Hard CC on a short cooldown poses a threat to Mundo when skirmishing, because he loses % max health every time his passive goes off. It's a good way to soften him up, especially if you can step on his neckbolt before he can.
When I play Cho'gath, I usually go for free boots and approach velocity so i can go really fast. Its absolutely hilarious when you hit one q and then get 450 move speed.
Heartsteel Cho’gath is one of my favorite picks for top right now! I always have trouble getting stacks the way you do, though, so this is really fun to watch!
Looks like zwag is handing out some love tonight :D Cho'Gath JG had the most love this update so far, I usually manage to full clear with 10-15 seconds to spare until scuttle, He can also outsmite early with his ult! Maybe you can give it a shot with a scaling build Heartsteel, Titanic and Demonic :D
@@DamnDaimen I don't play ranked, I am a draft scrub and to be honest my Q is basically Ohio. The times it does happen to get invaded it sucks but to be fair Cho has some decent gangs and until lvl 6 to start stacking your jg and objectives you should have been able to get a couple assistss. It gets easier after 6 at least if you build right.
Hi Zwag. Going through a rough time at the moment and sitting to watch one of your videos is my window during the day to feel a little bit of enjoyment. I appreciate that a lot. Cheers
Zwag man.. you said you read all comments so here you go. Love all your content, like league (sometimes), and I fall asleep to your vids every night for almost two years now. I’ve never subscribed to any UA-cam channel but yours because you told me to. I’ve also never commented on UA-cam but you said you read comments. We’ll I just had a life changing day yesterday and I’m feeling great and just wanted to say on top of how happy I feel I see I now get to enjoy a health stacking Cho bud later when I get home. I’m in heaven zwag! Love you and your content. I hope your happy and have someone to love
I'm only 12 minutes into the video and I'm already triggered by how many Mundo passives that were laying at zwags feet that he just let Mundo walk up and pickup.
The reason Cho'Gath _feels_ slow is because "size" also slows down walking/movement animations. You're not actually any slower; you're covering the same distance in fewer steps.
Hi Zwag, I've been meaning to say this every time I've seen you play as Cho: If you hold Shift over your Ult, it shows you the non-champion/non-epic monster stacks as "?/6". I find this much more reliable than mousing over the Feast stack buff icon. It's much quicker than adding up the counts on the other one.
The speed is all visual. Think about it: short people have to take more steps to go as fast as a tall person walking normally. So for a giant, same distance, same time, fewer steps. But yeah, pisses me off too.
Technically speaking Cho should get a move speed buff that caps with his size. That might break him though. But the idea that bigger creatures are slower is actually false. A titan would easily walk to France from America where we cannot do that at all and the titan would literally get there in only a few hours tops. This is because each step he takes being bigger carries him further. But like I said no one wants to see a busted Cho.
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let us note that at 19:45 he started with a max hp of 5157 only to end the fight with 5520 max hp 45 secs later basically this build gets 10 max hp per second in teamfights xD
A build I would suggest is full ad gnar, rush ravenous into trinity force into a situational dmg item like deaths dance, wits end, maw or steraks and then two tanks items if they have the dmg to shut you down or Bork and shojin if they don’t, with this build you can somewhat reliably one shot squishy champions with your full mega gnar combo (q, e, w, r, q and weave autos for the spellblade from tri force). And if you can’t oneshot squishies you can be a terrifying engage threat with enough dmg to follow up for you self. And as mini gnar you can kite so well thanks to tri force and Bork and your w passive you can beat any champ with shorter range
I love how Riots answer to the already broken tank item meta was to make the already OP items (sunfire) into legendary, and then just release even _more_ broken mythic items. Sure does make for great content though, keep em comin Zwag
Love your videos, I try out your builds on ARAM, that Lucian and Corki builds you did recently are bonkers. I watch your videos everyday as you make them so pleasant to watch, hope everything is going very well for you and remember God has a plan for you, for all of us. Keep up the awesome content!
Can you try Nashor’s + Lichbane on Karthus? Use Q to proc Lichbane every 2 seconds. Use W to get more autos in. Maybe grab Rylai’s so Q/E slow and you can get more autos and Lich procs
Thanks for the great content, love your stuff! I'd love to see an off the wall ryze build, like full healing (conqueror, riftmaker, ravenous hydra, maybe even Abyssal Mask since it has the eternity passive)
Probs my personal fave build is Heartsteel, Deadmans, Force of Nature, Demonic, Abyssal and last flex between Sunfire, Gargoyle and Warmogs. So much pain + when enemies stack FoN, Gargoyle and Abyssal your mr, armor and speed is ludicrous.
Video idea for a for fun squad video: -win a game with 0 cs. No minions, dragons, nothing. -perfect game. Don’t lose a single tower or dragon or baron/herald.
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I suggested my friend to try heartsteel pyke to see if he can get alot of ad and it kind of worked well. not stacking as efficient as hp but having stacking ad every engage is kind of sweet.
try cho gath jungle with gust walker, fast late game would love to see you try it edit: I use aftershock the one that heals teammates on your ccs, and the late game stuff, and inspiration with approach velocity and boots, sorry Im a little buzzed sorry for any errors lol
Yoo, for any mana issuing champ (that can tank some damage) Catalyst is really good, and later can be build into abyssal mask (as it stacks MR per every enemy around you)
Next patch 12.23 Chogath will receive 20 sec reduction in Ult CD woulda been better to hold off on this video probably couldve gotten more ult procs! Love the vids🙌🏽
It just feels slower because of your size and movement animations they slow as you increase same thing they do in apex legends with the big characters they slow down the arm movement so it seems like your slower but they move the same speed as a wraith.
I unironically like running titanic hydra and wits end with the warmogs build after heartsteel and boots. Deadmans and hextech are a great bonus too though.
Instead of tear, getting an abyssal would have been an option. The item gives resistances, lowers enemy MR and most importantly gives you the catalyst passive of gaining mana proportional to the damage you take. As you gain health that's a huge amount of mana sustain, something the tear items don't give you.
It's not that Cho'gath is slow late game. It's that due to his size, they slow his animations the bigger he gets so he's not walking across the map in three seconds. His speed never goes lower, it just seems that way.
Yeah the super slow cho... Several seasons ago I used to do a "Velociraptor Cho" build that was built around Triforce. It was ridiculous because you just zoomed around the map and nommed. You still got huge but it's not so viable anymore.
0:52 I actually think Cho is Stronger than Mundo mid-game, because Cho is a much better Teamfighter than Mundo And his E scales with his R stacks, being 6% max per auto just when you finish getting your 6 minion stacks.
It was me mid :D my first time getting to play with Zwag! Very fun game with my favorite content creator
Poor taste in champion
@@Desdayo eh I don't mind yone that much. I really despise Master Yi though
@@Desdayo hater lol
@@Pika-sp9cs lol
I got Zwag on my team in an ARAM once. He got Lucian. I forgot my champion and I ran it down.
I also got MrBeast in ARAM. He got Teemo. I got Aurelion Sol and I ran that game down as well.
Hard CC on a short cooldown poses a threat to Mundo when skirmishing, because he loses % max health every time his passive goes off. It's a good way to soften him up, especially if you can step on his neckbolt before he can.
Zwag: I really need the MR and armor.
Also Zwag: *refuses to buy MR or armor until the last possible moment.*
After about 30 min, you can practically hear Tyler1 chanting *"I'M A BIT OF A PROBLEM"* in the distance.
“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?”
No, he missed a caster minion
Lose Streak: 2
Dude... How?
Day 215 of writing here which day it is
@@XlvsD magic :)
@@XlvsD Kyle is just Zwag's alt account
what is zwags longest win and loss streak
That Q-flash at 11:24 was clean! 👌
That HP bar be THIIIICCCCC
When I play Cho'gath, I usually go for free boots and approach velocity so i can go really fast. Its absolutely hilarious when you hit one q and then get 450 move speed.
Heartsteel Cho’gath is one of my favorite picks for top right now! I always have trouble getting stacks the way you do, though, so this is really fun to watch!
Looks like zwag is handing out some love tonight :D
Cho'Gath JG had the most love this update so far, I usually manage to full clear with 10-15 seconds to spare until scuttle, He can also outsmite early with his ult! Maybe you can give it a shot with a scaling build Heartsteel, Titanic and Demonic :D
@@DamnDaimen I don't play ranked, I am a draft scrub and to be honest my Q is basically Ohio. The times it does happen to get invaded it sucks but to be fair Cho has some decent gangs and until lvl 6 to start stacking your jg and objectives you should have been able to get a couple assistss. It gets easier after 6 at least if you build right.
@@DamnDaimen Yeah but jungle is drastically different now
I love how sour that voli was at the end.
You're videos work better than elephant tranquilizer on me when I need them to
Your*
@@Crispy_porter that's how tired I was XD I just woke up
I always love your video uploads timing right when I go to sleep, perfect :)
“everything is doomed; the world is over” at 22:16 made me bust out laughing trying to fall asleep
Love the cho'gath videos
Hi Zwag. Going through a rough time at the moment and sitting to watch one of your videos is my window during the day to feel a little bit of enjoyment. I appreciate that a lot. Cheers
Zwag man.. you said you read all comments so here you go. Love all your content, like league (sometimes), and I fall asleep to your vids every night for almost two years now. I’ve never subscribed to any UA-cam channel but yours because you told me to. I’ve also never commented on UA-cam but you said you read comments. We’ll I just had a life changing day yesterday and I’m feeling great and just wanted to say on top of how happy I feel I see I now get to enjoy a health stacking Cho bud later when I get home. I’m in heaven zwag! Love you and your content. I hope your happy and have someone to love
20:11 that Yuumi abandoned her jungler and got instantly karma...
I'm only 12 minutes into the video and I'm already triggered by how many Mundo passives that were laying at zwags feet that he just let Mundo walk up and pickup.
That voli being toxic at the end giving us voli mains a bad rep lol
“Up you go” said the most wonderful gentleman
Awesome vid Zwag! Been really enjoying your preseason content!
The reason Cho'Gath _feels_ slow is because "size" also slows down walking/movement animations. You're not actually any slower; you're covering the same distance in fewer steps.
20:06 *Ashe brutally kill Mundo*
Zwag :" Ashe the savior, thank you Ashe"
Hi Zwag, I've been meaning to say this every time I've seen you play as Cho: If you hold Shift over your Ult, it shows you the non-champion/non-epic monster stacks as "?/6". I find this much more reliable than mousing over the Feast stack buff icon.
It's much quicker than adding up the counts on the other one.
i have been waiting for this
the chogath voice lines are so funny
The speed is all visual. Think about it: short people have to take more steps to go as fast as a tall person walking normally. So for a giant, same distance, same time, fewer steps. But yeah, pisses me off too.
Technically speaking Cho should get a move speed buff that caps with his size. That might break him though. But the idea that bigger creatures are slower is actually false. A titan would easily walk to France from America where we cannot do that at all and the titan would literally get there in only a few hours tops. This is because each step he takes being bigger carries him further. But like I said no one wants to see a busted Cho.
"I think ill buy the tear and not upgrade it" - new zwag catchphrase 2023
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let us note that at 19:45 he started with a max hp of 5157 only to end the fight with 5520 max hp 45 secs later
basically this build gets 10 max hp per second in teamfights xD
A build I would suggest is full ad gnar, rush ravenous into trinity force into a situational dmg item like deaths dance, wits end, maw or steraks and then two tanks items if they have the dmg to shut you down or Bork and shojin if they don’t, with this build you can somewhat reliably one shot squishy champions with your full mega gnar combo (q, e, w, r, q and weave autos for the spellblade from tri force). And if you can’t oneshot squishies you can be a terrifying engage threat with enough dmg to follow up for you self. And as mini gnar you can kite so well thanks to tri force and Bork and your w passive you can beat any champ with shorter range
I love how Riots answer to the already broken tank item meta was to make the already OP items (sunfire) into legendary, and then just release even _more_ broken mythic items.
Sure does make for great content though, keep em comin Zwag
1:08
Zwag : it just doesn't take cc
Gentleman ChoGath : Whattt?
Love your videos, I try out your builds on ARAM, that Lucian and Corki builds you did recently are bonkers. I watch your videos everyday as you make them so pleasant to watch, hope everything is going very well for you and remember God has a plan for you, for all of us. Keep up the awesome content!
Can you try Nashor’s + Lichbane on Karthus? Use Q to proc Lichbane every 2 seconds. Use W to get more autos in. Maybe grab Rylai’s so Q/E slow and you can get more autos and Lich procs
What is gods plan for me?
Anytime I get a start that looks like a Zwag start it’s the best game I’ve had in days
Thanks for the great content, love your stuff! I'd love to see an off the wall ryze build, like full healing (conqueror, riftmaker, ravenous hydra, maybe even Abyssal Mask since it has the eternity passive)
33:40 that reccion was so fucking quick with the ult, that's why i love these videos man
Okay zwag,
Time for Galeforce, full movement speed Darius
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Another awesome match! I don't play LoL, but I really enjoy your videos!
i love how gentleman chogat says QUITE whenever he uses W
played a 16k health cho today....
Probs my personal fave build is Heartsteel, Deadmans, Force of Nature, Demonic, Abyssal and last flex between Sunfire, Gargoyle and Warmogs. So much pain + when enemies stack FoN, Gargoyle and Abyssal your mr, armor and speed is ludicrous.
This is the most League of Legends video of cho lol
Thanks for making quality content.
Another awesome video bro, keep them comin!
I'm repeating my comments from Tresh video on TC Zwag... I love hours of your video posting perfect to falling asleep
Video idea for a for fun squad video:
-win a game with 0 cs. No minions, dragons, nothing.
-perfect game. Don’t lose a single tower or dragon or baron/herald.
That salty voli at the end. lmao
did anyone see samiras comment? "say hi to pants are hard R for me" lmaoooooo
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I suggested my friend to try heartsteel pyke to see if he can get alot of ad and it kind of worked well. not stacking as efficient as hp but having stacking ad every engage is kind of sweet.
I hope if they rework cho that they keep gentleman chos voicliines ♡ i love them
The Voli saying Zwag can't play in his own elo.....
Great video. Loved the raid boss
try cho gath jungle with gust walker, fast late game would love to see you try it
edit: I use aftershock the one that heals teammates on your ccs, and the late game stuff, and inspiration with approach velocity and boots, sorry Im a little buzzed sorry for any errors lol
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You could also try that with Ornn. I managed to get 15k hp in one of my Ornn games.
Yoo, for any mana issuing champ (that can tank some damage) Catalyst is really good, and later can be build into abyssal mask (as it stacks MR per every enemy around you)
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I ask me how cho can get so big and still invisible in bushes, ez phisykals.
Every time I’m early I can’t think of anything clever to say
Next patch 12.23 Chogath will receive 20 sec reduction in Ult CD woulda been better to hold off on this video probably couldve gotten more ult procs! Love the vids🙌🏽
omfg i love you for playing Child of Light music
It just feels slower because of your size and movement animations they slow as you increase same thing they do in apex legends with the big characters they slow down the arm movement so it seems like your slower but they move the same speed as a wraith.
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"Did Zwag's team get first blood?"
Yes, Enemy Mundo went were Zwag pleases... back to base.
Win Streak: 2
I try say in good english, i learn a little... ehm...
somebody like me, think cho-gath dance you sing...
We are the woooorrllldd
🤣🤣
I unironically like running titanic hydra and wits end with the warmogs build after heartsteel and boots. Deadmans and hextech are a great bonus too though.
22:10 zwag had the worst 10 seconds anyone has ever had
Cho'Gath should gain like 4 move speed with every stack to compensate for his large hit box
You know how to snowball really well and how to pass your advantage to your teammates
Instead of tear, getting an abyssal would have been an option. The item gives resistances, lowers enemy MR and most importantly gives you the catalyst passive of gaining mana proportional to the damage you take. As you gain health that's a huge amount of mana sustain, something the tear items don't give you.
I think that frozen heart was a great pick for this match but GGs dude! 😁
Insomnia is hitting up again, time for some Zwag medicine
7:20 welcome to top lane XD
Godzu made a video where he got 16k HP as chogath. Good video none the less.
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Hey Zwag, maybe you should try tank Kassadin with grasp and heartsteel, you know, the build every single champ in the game is building rn xd
Zwag, you should try the duble jungleing, it's so fun, cuz you'll get a super advantage
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33:59 phrasing Zwag
28:19 Give me the kitty. Oh those are some big d...
zwag, what is your favorite lane to play? also i like your vids :)
I realized in this video that you talk like choga'th with the gentleman skin, you are a gentleman !
Giant Cho is like the biggest demoralizer for the enemy, bloody hell..
That Ashe missed every single ult, some of them literally point blank, and was crying about laning with that "sera", lol.
never underestimate the late game power of shield bash and fimbulwinter
Playing cho'gath deserves Attack on titan OST when you are so Big
It's such a shame that Cho didn't get voiceover by Sir Sean Connery. Perhaps Sir Ian McKellen?
How do i get access to this playlist of yours playing in the background?
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It's not that Cho'gath is slow late game. It's that due to his size, they slow his animations the bigger he gets so he's not walking across the map in three seconds.
His speed never goes lower, it just seems that way.
every video on youtube in preseason 13 with cho'gath: I BROKE HP LIMITS111!!! or NEW MAX HP RECORD!!!
Second skin of the day: Gentleman Cho'Gath.
A titanic hydraw would cleave for 400/900 additional damage and that is terrifying
You guys need to watch the 17k hp cho on youtube with heartsteal
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Yeah the super slow cho... Several seasons ago I used to do a "Velociraptor Cho" build that was built around Triforce. It was ridiculous because you just zoomed around the map and nommed. You still got huge but it's not so viable anymore.
Did anyone notice that demonic alone was giving 255 AP. That was a good buy.
Ornn with heartsteel, titanic hydra, and warmogs been a pretty fun build
All fun and games till someone builds bork
0:52
I actually think Cho is Stronger than Mundo mid-game, because Cho is a much better Teamfighter than Mundo
And his E scales with his R stacks, being 6% max per auto just when you finish getting your 6 minion stacks.
Can you try tank gragas? I feel like it’s almost good. Just don’t know how to build him.
Hope everyone is having a good day :)
Day 3 of asking for full atackspeed Braum. 😊 perfect counter for the current tank meta
Hey, great suggestion, Dyolo!
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@@zgth01 i believe u bro
Love some good old chogie
I've been playing heartsteel cho and i keep dropping insane games. I queued for ranked one game without realizing it and went 9/1/2
Day 35 of asking Zwag to do shield/heal power Morde with new chemtech drakes
Illaoi can use spirits to proc heart steel repeatedly you know what to do
Day 4