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  • Опубліковано 19 січ 2023
  • Special thanks to subscriber Ruppert Baird for suggesting this topic.
    The almost unknown story of four Swiss military units sent to the Eastern Front during WW2.
    Dr. Mark Felton FRHistS, FRSA, is a well-known British historian, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: en.wikipedia.o...
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  • @bber45
    @bber45 Рік тому +1518

    Ahhh very good Dr. Felton. Being Half Swiss, nice to shed some light on this. My Grandfather was Border Guard during WW2 and I still have his K31 Rifle. He told my family about stories of skirmishes with the Germans and Unauthorized Border crossings. Most German Swiss did not like the Nazis but a lot of them did enjoy their business and banking. Made a lot of Swiss people rich in WW2. Still a very touchy subject to this day.

    • @overtimedemo4399
      @overtimedemo4399 Рік тому

      Sounds like a nazi flip flopper lol

    • @ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588
      @ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 Рік тому +80

      I find it shocking that there were Swiss people who volunteered to fight for Germany. Hitler publicly expressed his contempt for Switzerland as a country and for its people, who he regarded as, unsurprising, inferior. Hitler was apparently even contemplating letting Mussolini take it over. I guess there are stupid people everywhere.

    • @erikgothberg8078
      @erikgothberg8078 Рік тому +78

      @@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588It was more complicated than that back in the day

    • @steffenrosmus9177
      @steffenrosmus9177 Рік тому +65

      @@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 a lot of German volunteers from app 60 nations has only one goal: fight communism. Remember 98 % of them according to official military data fought bon the eastern front. And remember too, most of the volunteers very quite young. They were lured in the same way as Americans were lured by Trump.

    • @adolfmaotsestalin8753
      @adolfmaotsestalin8753 Рік тому

      It makes u nazi collaborators. What a shame the Red Army didn't get there.

  • @beeroholic666
    @beeroholic666 Рік тому +664

    Hi, a Swiss here. I have never ever heard of any Swiss medic operation on the Eastern Front in WW2. Either I must have been asleep at school in the 80s or this never made any history book I read. Either way, I am quite irritated. Thank you, Mark, for bringing this important piece of history to my attention.

    • @aleksazunjic9672
      @aleksazunjic9672 Рік тому +75

      Of course you didn't because Germans lost the war 😁 If it was otherwise, small medical mission would turn into a division 😆

    • @ruedigerschultz3852
      @ruedigerschultz3852 Рік тому +19

      Same goes for me -- although with 15 years headstart!
      Thank you Dr. Felton - yet another fascinating angle of WW2 I never knew of before

    • @marcelobamb
      @marcelobamb Рік тому +18

      Maybe your nickname explains a lot.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 Рік тому +13

      Don't feel bad burring, or rewriting history goes on around the world, just as much in the Western World as in the 3rd & 2nd world.

    • @writerconsidered
      @writerconsidered Рік тому +1

      Sounds about right. The Swiss have been trying to minimize their involvement with the Nazi's ever since. Its almost a policy. The Swiss were never innocent and only barely neutral.

  • @tomw377
    @tomw377 10 місяців тому +19

    I'm 55 years old and have been studying WW2 since the age of 7. I consider myself extremely knowledgeable on the topic and have at least a passing knowledge on many areas of the war. And yet, this is something that I previously knew absolutely nothing about. Definitely an eye-opener for me as well.

    • @Ryan_Winter
      @Ryan_Winter 5 місяців тому

      Mr. Felton surely has been digging hard to find something he could use to attack Switzerland.
      If this is sufficient to count as "being on the German side" then all allied nations were Germany's accomplices.
      To trade and profit from what the German regime did was fine for as long as the US were "neutral" and did a lot of trade with the Germans.
      The US didn't declare war on Germany until 1941, but that was fine, small Switzerland however, besieged from all sides, was supposed to somehow oppose a regime that had defeated France i no time at all.

    • @Ryan_Winter
      @Ryan_Winter 5 місяців тому

      What an ominous title.
      When I read the title I was wondering what I would be presented with here.
      When the video was over I still was wondering, asking myself:"Is THIS really it?"
      This is the damning truth the Swiss tried so hard to keep secret?

  • @mayormc
    @mayormc Рік тому +11

    Just when you think Dr. Felton has uncovered it all, he comes up with a new one. Bravo, work well done. I am sure very few have ever heard of this.

  • @carlbrown9082
    @carlbrown9082 Рік тому +30

    Quite an eye-opening subject, Dr. Felton. Things are never clear-cut during war. There are always anomalies...

  • @GlasgowGallus
    @GlasgowGallus Рік тому +126

    Again, Mark knocks it out the park: I fancy myself as a history buff, but as usual Dr Felton brings us something I wasn't aware of... Superb Mark, thank you.. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @Ryan_Winter
      @Ryan_Winter 5 місяців тому

      What an ominous title.
      When I read the title I was wondering what I would be presented with here.
      When the video was over I still was wondering, asking myself:"Is THIS really it?"
      This is the damning truth the Swiss tried so hard to keep secret?

  • @BauAuslese
    @BauAuslese Рік тому +61

    Thank you for this information about the Swiss Medical Missions. Being a Swiss myself, I would like to add a short comment. In 1973/1974 there was a very popular TV series on the German language Swiss state TV about Switzerland during the Nazi regime in Germany: «Die Schweiz im Krieg 1933-1945». One of the 13 episodes was dedicated to the Swiss Medical Mission, deemed a scandal. It stressed that the doctors and nurses were "duped". They expected it to be a neutral mission and were shocked when they became aware that they in effect contributed to the German war effort. Several of them were interviewed for the series, telling about how they experienced the mistreatment of the local population, especially the Jews, and of their efforts to intervene. The TV series was also made into a book which was widely distributed. I got it as a present when I was a kid. The book was published in nine consecutive editions. In addition, there were repeated articles about Doctor Eugen Bircher, the leader and instigator of the Swiss Medical Missions, a powerful, controversial figure and a strong sympathizer of the Nazi regime, the last article dating from 2020. So, in German speaking Switzerland, this questionable episode is not a forgotten or obscured event. One detail: The members of the mission did not wear Swiss army uniforms. A special uniform was created for them.

    • @aboveitall1653
      @aboveitall1653 Рік тому +4

      That the issue is being publically addressed on TV and in print in Switzerland 50 years ago is a good sign.

    • @korana6308
      @korana6308 Рік тому

      With all due respect, I find it extremely hypocritical , that they "weren't aware" of the Hitler atrocities , and what was actually going on? Being sent off by the Hitler himself... What did you expect you would be doing? also they didn't refuse to do their job. Which is again, I find very hypocritical . Because it's literally the same thing happening again. Time goes on , and nothing changes... Europe is again in it's "progressive European solidarity" yet again helping and doing "humanitarian missions" which help killing more Russians, yet it is accepted as a norm , just like it was accepted as a norm back then. And let me guess... in the future Switzerland would be saying yet again ,that it wasn't supporting a neo nazi regime in Kiev, and didn't know about all of the atrocities of Kievan regime and it's belligerents . Again with all due respect, I can understand you trying to whitewash your country's history... But it's extremely hypocritical talking about the past while you are doing the exact same thing (actually even worse) in the present.

    • @BauAuslese
      @BauAuslese Рік тому +3

      @@korana6308 It is always wise to be precise when you criticize.

    • @hon.mr.ronburgundyiiiesq.2096
      @hon.mr.ronburgundyiiiesq.2096 Рік тому

      When it come to getting rid of communism, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Why not help the Germans kill a few more Russians if the Americans were already in the war? Communism was and unfortunately still is the biggest threat to the western world and we should do everything humanly possible to eradicate it once and for all.

    • @stevebentley4516
      @stevebentley4516 Рік тому

      I feel like they were trying to whitewash the role Switzerland played in helping the Germans.
      If you make a list of allied, neutral, and axis countries, Switzerland should be in the axis column. For this state sanctioned effort and all the others that helped the German state...like helping steal the wealth and assets of Jews.

  • @michaelmazowiecki9195
    @michaelmazowiecki9195 Рік тому +380

    A small contribution in the opposite direction: a Swiss Pole , Jan Zumbach, was a top ace of the Polish 303 squadron RAF during the Battle of Britain and WW2. He carried a Swiss passport with him when on combat missions. He was the son of a Swiss father and Polish mother , born during WW1 near Warsaw before Poland became independent again, a Swiss citizen by birth.

    • @ericalawson631
      @ericalawson631 Рік тому +34

      the polish plots were magnificent fighters but I'm not sure a Swiss passport would help him if captured, probably just get him an unmarked grave rather than causing an international incident

    • @ronsilva516
      @ronsilva516 Рік тому +2

      Well well so neutral after all

    • @BangFarang1
      @BangFarang1 Рік тому +24

      @@ericalawson631 Many grounded pilots could get off their planes and find plain clothes to hide in the population. In that case, the passport would have been usefull during a check on the road.

    • @CAP198462
      @CAP198462 Рік тому +2

      It would be an interesting gedanken experiment.
      A volunteer pilot from a neutral country flying for a combatant nation is taken prisoner. Probably would be treated as a POW with the consideration due his grade (rank) with no notice of his passport. I doubt the Swiss government would protest.

    • @BangFarang1
      @BangFarang1 Рік тому +7

      @@CAP198462 If he claimed being a Swiss, he would be treated as a mercenary. According to the Geneva Conventions, mercenaries don't get PoW protection. They are likely to be treated as any terrorist or criminal (for killing people of a country you're not as war with).

  • @cameronmccreary4758
    @cameronmccreary4758 Рік тому +275

    Thanks Mark for relaying this information to us. In all my 66 years on this Earth and all of the WWII history that I know about; I had not heard of this.

  • @TheBurgerHut7
    @TheBurgerHut7 Рік тому +16

    Intro music still goes as hard as ever

  • @JG-mp5nb
    @JG-mp5nb Рік тому +81

    The story of every conflict is complicated by the fact that rarely is there uniformity amongst those who are combatants and those on the “sidelines”. An unusual and disturbing look at the reality of maintaining strict neutrality. Thanks for this research!

    • @aloeisthestuff9622
      @aloeisthestuff9622 Рік тому +1

      But they Weren't Neutral then.

    • @bubbasbigblast8563
      @bubbasbigblast8563 Рік тому

      It wasn't strict neutrality, since it violated the neutrality laws by providing weapons from nationally owned companies, and it tested weapons meant for Germany by the Swiss army, on army bases, with the German army getting priority on new weapons over even the Swiss army.
      For all practical purposes, it was an Axis aligned country pretending to be neutral, even to itself.

  • @18robsmith
    @18robsmith Рік тому +328

    This goes a long way to explaining a comment to the effect "We did some very non-neutral things during the war" by someone I met in Switzerland a few years ago.

    • @rogersmith7396
      @rogersmith7396 Рік тому +24

      I liked the part where the US bombed them. It was'nt an accident.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Рік тому +1

      Yes/no

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 Рік тому +11

      @@rogersmith7396 Makes me wonder about the German bombings of Ireland. Quite a few "non-neutral" things were done for the allies.

    • @rogersmith7396
      @rogersmith7396 Рік тому +5

      @@tedcrilly46 As I recall the Swiss and maybe Sweden were involved in shipping iron ore to the Nazis. The US let them know we were not amused. I am also thinking there were dogfights between US planes and Swiss 109s.

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 Рік тому +1

      @@rogersmith7396 Yep. Fulton has a video on that too.

  • @EdMcF1
    @EdMcF1 Рік тому +118

    Did they call their guard units 'the Swiss Watch'?

  • @InflightIreland
    @InflightIreland Рік тому +93

    Wow! I can't believe I never knew this! Thank you Dr. Felton!

    • @krisfrederick5001
      @krisfrederick5001 Рік тому

      You learned it without even seeing the video! Wow! LOL

    • @InflightIreland
      @InflightIreland Рік тому

      @krisfrederick5001 Yeah haha! The title was enough 🤣 I have viewed it now though! 😀

  • @larryjohnson7591
    @larryjohnson7591 Рік тому +6

    I had heard of some of this, but not the part about when the doctors came back to Switzerland. Thank You Mark.

  • @henriknilsson7851
    @henriknilsson7851 Рік тому +20

    Another unknown bit of history. Top notch as always!

    • @billg7205
      @billg7205 Рік тому

      Shouldn't be, but it is. A certain country heading the developing NWO at the time was heavily involved with funding and creating the war.

  • @paulc6471
    @paulc6471 Рік тому +14

    Makes my day to see a notification from Mark Felton!

  • @BadgerOfTheSea
    @BadgerOfTheSea Рік тому +34

    I always love that Mark just says it how it is in a way that is not condescending

  • @francisboyle1739
    @francisboyle1739 Рік тому +2

    This is the sort of forgotten yet fascinating (and important) historical detail that I come to this channel for.

  • @horrortackleharry
    @horrortackleharry Рік тому +354

    It remains a fact that non-German volunteers fighting the Red Army in the East far, far outnumbered the famed International Brigades of the Spanish Civil War. It was a truly popular cause- at first.

    • @discobedient
      @discobedient Рік тому +64

      Memoires of those volunteers often give their main motive as fighting communism.

    • @camerongates5752
      @camerongates5752 Рік тому

      Imagine aligning yourselves with nazism because you got brainwashed by the global elite into thinking communism is the enemy.

    • @george217
      @george217 Рік тому +50

      Look into the Blue Division. A Spanish division that served on the eastern front. Entirely made up of Spaniards who were anti-communists...

    • @discobedient
      @discobedient Рік тому +50

      @@george217 but they already came from a fascist state. It's the Scandinavians, Dutch, Belgian, French etc that fought until the end in Berlin and joined on their own accord that were the most surprising. Little interest in anti-Semitism, just hated communism.

    •  Рік тому +22

      @@discobedient It's difficult to say that the Nacional Catolicismo was a fascist doctrine. It just wasn't a democracy, buy from that to being fascist is a long way.

  • @Roller_Ghoster
    @Roller_Ghoster Рік тому +5

    Super. Keep this one for later.

  • @ekim000
    @ekim000 Рік тому +50

    Fantastic, eye opening stuff as usual. Much appreciate your work in illuminating the darker corners of the war years.

    • @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz
      @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz Рік тому

      As if

    • @paul8158
      @paul8158 Рік тому +1

      I guess much more eye-opening is the book of Anthony Sutton: Wallstreet and the Rise of Hitler - How America bankrolled the Nazis.

  • @jwhiskey242
    @jwhiskey242 Рік тому +2

    It never ceases to amaze me how 20-20 hindsight, Monday morning quarterbacking and the application of modern morals to fluid situations that occurred almost 90 years ago still keep popping up.

    • @skepticalobserver2135
      @skepticalobserver2135 Рік тому +2

      I don't think Mark applied 'modern morals' to the situation. He did mention the threat of invasion and the allied bombings in his video. What I do take exception to is believing these 'volunteers' were part of the Swiss Army. They may have worn the uniform (though without any unit designations from what I saw). And these were MEDICAL units, not combat units. Plus the VERY SMALL numbers meant they were INSIGNIFICANT in a conflict involving MILLIONS on both sides.

    • @MMSSLL
      @MMSSLL Рік тому

      It never ceases to amaze me how people mistake history for ideology

  • @jamesstewart8342
    @jamesstewart8342 Рік тому +9

    Another fine production! Thank you, Mark!

  • @alkitzman9179
    @alkitzman9179 Рік тому +26

    Dr. Felton you are amazing at bringing these isolated incidents for all the world to see . Once upon a time I thought I was a expert on WW2 . I am in kindergarten compared to you. Thanks again you never fail to amaze . Have your ever done on video on the German field Hospitals during operation Barbarossa ? I think that would be very interesting to hear about

    • @badchefi
      @badchefi Рік тому

      My grand father taught me all of this back in the 70’s yet I wouldn’t dare to call myself an expert in WW2.
      Felton isn’t even an expert - he just knows how to use google and how to choose the content that “sells”.

    • @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz
      @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz Рік тому +1

      @@badchefi one sided

  • @jollygreengiant7072
    @jollygreengiant7072 Рік тому +8

    Yet another brilliant history lesson from Dr Felton. ThankYou so much for shining light into the dark.

  • @mach1mike351
    @mach1mike351 Рік тому +8

    Yet more amazing facts from WW2 I have never heard about, I don't know how you manage to get so many of these incredible videos out Mark but please don't stop 👍

  • @jebbroham1776
    @jebbroham1776 Рік тому +38

    The Germans had soldiers from literally every nation on earth fighting for them at one point or another during the war. The most effective foreign troops by far though were part of 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking, comprised of Swedes, Finns, Danes, Norwegians, Estonians, Dutch, and Belgians. They performed well beyond the wildest expectations of the German Army, and were involved in some of the heaviest fighting seen on the Eastern Front.

    • @Andrewsky347
      @Andrewsky347 Рік тому +6

      I heard a large portion of the defenders of Berlin in '45 weren't even German, they were from other European countries and knew they couldn't surrender without being executed for treason.

    • @grumpy9478
      @grumpy9478 Рік тому

      put only ideological / religious extremists in one unit, & that might be one outcome.

    • @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz
      @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz Рік тому +1

      And the Red Cross literally has records proving the opposite is true about the H. Among unrelated reams of others that prove the same thing. Funny Mark never talks about the Royal Navy Blockade of Weimar, starving German Civilians, Balfour and the SS Lusitania- not to mention the latter’s weapons and explosives being found, which made her in fact the legitimate target of war. Nor the post WWII Morgenthau Plan and the starvation of millions of German POWs and civilians, allied terror bombing, Churchill’s eagerness for the latter as recorded dozens of times by top diplomats and military officials, all allied forces mass murder of Germans and mass rape of their women, Soviet mass murder of their own civilians, their admission that they had fabricated some of the so called “D” cmps as “recreations”, etc etc etc etc, ad fkg nauseam.
      You’d think that would all be fairly significant, even if the eH were true, to proving that no one’s hands are clean.
      Nope.

    • @seanodwyer4322
      @seanodwyer4322 Рік тому

      @@Andrewsky347 1,000 off them were from - Tibet brought too Berlin by- Himmler

    • @seanodwyer4322
      @seanodwyer4322 Рік тому +2

      @@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz - Eisenhower gave a order in march 1944 too his army mustang pilots too shoot anything that moves when they were flying over Germany.- i.e.- troops/ civilians/ animals/

  • @SvenneSnackar
    @SvenneSnackar Рік тому +77

    I hope hear Mark about Sweden where it is said that it was also a neutral country during WW2 although they had given Germany a shortcut to send their troops through the country by train from Luleå up through the Norwegian border for the invasion of Norway, for me who live in Luleå know that there was a building called "German magazine" that stored equipment and rest for German soldiers when they traveled in between.

    • @skwalka6372
      @skwalka6372 Рік тому +19

      Sweden also supplies Germany with high quality metals that the Germans needed, such as special steel alloys.

    • @brinken3034
      @brinken3034 Рік тому +2

      The transit through sweden was only for rotating infantry back home and not important for the invasion itself

    • @badbotchdown9845
      @badbotchdown9845 Рік тому +9

      They have supplied Germany in steel in huge quantities but the most priced items were ball bearings until end of October 44. It was a very strategical component of everything who drive or fly.

    • @chrisgibson5267
      @chrisgibson5267 Рік тому +11

      @@brinken3034 Ah, well that makes it okay. No problem. Just Nazi German soldiers going home after attacking and essentialy colonizing brave little Norway.

    • @Free-Bodge79
      @Free-Bodge79 Рік тому

      And allowed Jews to be transferred through there territory on the way to the death camps.

  • @davemcddd
    @davemcddd Рік тому +35

    Yet another gem of hidden history that Dr. Felton exposes for all to see. Fantastic work!

  • @k_enn
    @k_enn Рік тому +5

    Let's not forget that the US provided material support to Britain when the US was officially neutral in 1940

  • @Willysmb44
    @Willysmb44 Рік тому +3

    Yet another moment of, "Just when you think you've heard EVERYTHING about WW2". Thank you again, Dr Felton!

  • @stephenloy3535
    @stephenloy3535 Рік тому +14

    fantastic story,

  • @lorenzoharrell1135
    @lorenzoharrell1135 Рік тому +11

    Never knew, Swiss Army, Swiss Medics, and International Red Cross. Wonderful information Doctor, thank once more!

    • @gordonspicer
      @gordonspicer Рік тому

      as an aside the head of Interpol during the War was guess who ? A German Nazi !

    • @giorgosfylaktou2610
      @giorgosfylaktou2610 Рік тому +1

      ME MYSELF DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS CHAPTER OF SWITZERLAND 🇨🇭 MEDICAL STAFF AND STUFF EQUIPMENT FOR EXAMPLE. I REALLY ADMIRED SOME SWISS MEDICAL STAFF, WERE NOT AFRAID BEING BULLIED AND THREATENED ABOUT WITNESSING MISTREATMENT OF SOVIET JEWS AND OTHER POPULATIONS, THEY STARTED SPEAKING PUBLICLY AND DEFIED THE THREAT OF NAZI GERMANY 🇩🇪 BY INVADING THIR COUNTRY
      IT'S A HIGH RISK AND THAT COULD COST THEIR LIVES.

  • @jonathanbaron-crangle5093
    @jonathanbaron-crangle5093 2 місяці тому

    I really like how Dr Mark Felton digs up the more obscure stories & facts of events from WW2, many I haven't heard of before, & I've been into military history for 40 years.!

  • @goodnightvienna8511
    @goodnightvienna8511 Рік тому +9

    Wow....just....wow. yet again....hands down the finest military historian creating content of such consistent quality and unique material 👌 Thank you so much Mark

  • @mitchmatthews6713
    @mitchmatthews6713 Рік тому +8

    Excellent research work, Mark!

  • @Rustythemouse
    @Rustythemouse Рік тому +36

    Mr. Felton you made my day, this is gold value!

    • @jrmckim
      @jrmckim Рік тому

      DR* Felton

    • @mattyb567567
      @mattyb567567 Рік тому +3

      @@jrmckim He is still a Mr. Don't make yourself look foolish.

    • @thomasburke2683
      @thomasburke2683 Рік тому +1

      It's on the gold standard.

  • @asengeorgiev5834
    @asengeorgiev5834 Рік тому +1

    Amazing! Great work!

  • @garylawson5381
    @garylawson5381 Рік тому +7

    Your documentary videos are always a rare treasure. Thanks again Mark Felton Productions!

  • @the_lichemaster
    @the_lichemaster Рік тому +3

    Another fascinating nugget of unearthed knowledge. Sterling work as always.

  • @curtisaguirre757
    @curtisaguirre757 Рік тому +6

    A very interesting examination of one of those little known parts of WWII. I recently read Ben Macintyre's "Prisoners of the Castle: An Epic Story of Survival and Escape from Colditz, the Nazi Fortress Prison." One of the figures that intrigued me the most was Rudolf Denzler, the Swiss official who was assigned to inspect the POW camps and identify transgressions of the Geneva Conventions. I have looked for more information on him, but there isn't much. Mark, would you ever consider making a video about the Rudolf Denzler and the Swiss officials like him?

  • @epapa737
    @epapa737 Рік тому +2

    Amazing find Dr.Felton! Would've never seen these stories in library books about the war

  • @terryroots5023
    @terryroots5023 Рік тому +1

    Excellent, Mark, you turn over such nuggets.

  • @PYRO-ON
    @PYRO-ON Рік тому +3

    Mark, ur research and presentation never ceases to amaze me....I’ve been watching u since day one and enjoy watching ur channel grow and it’s AMAZING content.

  • @adbp473
    @adbp473 Рік тому +4

    No more Toblerone for you Mark Felton! Great storytelling.

  • @writtenplauge9397
    @writtenplauge9397 Рік тому +1

    Another banger that’s Dr Felton!!!

  • @hoosierpatriot2280
    @hoosierpatriot2280 Рік тому +2

    Wow. I learn something absolutely every time I watch your videos. Thank you Dr. Felton!

  • @mattgeorge90
    @mattgeorge90 Рік тому +3

    Another great episode!

  • @steventhompson399
    @steventhompson399 Рік тому +5

    Wow, never heard of this... thanks

  • @jasongarufi8187
    @jasongarufi8187 Рік тому +1

    Thanks Dr. Feldon for another great video on a overlooked part of WW2.

  • @greyone40
    @greyone40 Рік тому +2

    Secret units only remain so because Mark has not had time to do a story on them yet.
    Thanks Mark!

  • @overlordomega9084
    @overlordomega9084 Рік тому +22

    Mark is now the most wanted Person in Switzerland

    • @Rschaltegger
      @Rschaltegger Рік тому +1

      na, its hockey season...he is fine.

    • @bruhism173
      @bruhism173 Рік тому

      People with down syndrome in Switzerland:😲
      If you know you know.

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Рік тому +1

      Yea this and the gold thing are definitely two things that the Swiss would prefer we all forget

    • @Rschaltegger
      @Rschaltegger Рік тому

      @@sto1238 oh there is more...way more

    • @user-kd2ij7te5v
      @user-kd2ij7te5v 11 місяців тому

      😂

  • @UmvimvaniT
    @UmvimvaniT Рік тому +5

    Love watching these little gems of unknown (to a lot of us) history. Thank you Mark Felton! ♥

  • @michaelcapeless3268
    @michaelcapeless3268 Рік тому +1

    Just fantastic how you root out the past and fill in the blank spaces for us all. Great work, Dr. Felton. Thanks again. This is really interesting.

  • @stevenhershman2660
    @stevenhershman2660 Рік тому +2

    Thank you Mark for this excellent episode !

  • @alexhatfield2987
    @alexhatfield2987 Рік тому +11

    The black and white movie images of World War Two I watched in the early 1970’’s created in my child’s mind an apparently clear picture of “good verses evil,” and clearly defined protagonist/antagonists. But videos like this paint a far more nuanced and complex picture and challenges the “victor-bias” that I was exposed to as child. I appreciate the education.

    • @ilimes
      @ilimes Рік тому +4

      there's content out there that would fully invert that perception. ie "Europa - the final battle"

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Рік тому +4

      WW2 was one of the few wars where there absolutely was a good and bad. While the allies definitely did do bad things (Bengal, Dresden, Japanese internment to name a few) but what they did paled in comparison to the sheer brutality of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi Рік тому

      @@sto1238 a choice between the lesser and greater evil, no good guys, just guys who are less evil than the other guys. or in some cases much less evil.

    • @davidbowie50yearsofbowiean23
      @davidbowie50yearsofbowiean23 Рік тому +4

      @@MusMasi I hate this modern re telling of history that's becoming more common. Arguments like yours are so devoid of perspective.
      Even in the mid 20th century, there hadn't been a more free, liberal and progressive civilisation than the west. The same is true but more so today.
      In all of human history there had not been better in these regards, yet we look back and call them evil?

    • @skepticalobserver2135
      @skepticalobserver2135 Рік тому

      You should read the book "Stalin's War" by Sean McMeekin and you'll find out how FDR and Churchill were led by the nose by Stalin in WWII.

  • @oasis1282
    @oasis1282 Рік тому +13

    Damn man im Swiss. They better not mention them joining the 5th SS Wiking division.

    • @AllHailTheBobSemple
      @AllHailTheBobSemple Рік тому

      Well there are Idiots(Nazis) in every country, sadly

    • @richardrykala925
      @richardrykala925 Рік тому +1

      Cousin on my mothers side ( he married one of my mothers mother sister, or just my Grandmother sister on my mothers side, one of my Aunts, daughter who had immigrated to Canada) he was German Czech, was in a Czech boyscout when the Germans took Czechoslovakia in 1938, in 1941 enlisted in the German Army Recruitment for the Eastern Front, fought in the Army /Heer in alot of Battles rose to the rank of Senior Feldwebel/ Senior Sgt, chosen for Officers School in Oct 1942 was attached to the 6th Army attacking Stalingrad, than later transfered to the Officer Tank School and later WSS and given command of a Tank Company in the 5th WSS Panzer Division Wiking and rose to the rank of Hauptmannsfuhrer/ Captain near the end of the war. Got out came to Chatham Ontario Canada and married my Aunts daughter. Battled only Bolesheviks never involved in any civilian massacres, just hated Communist , had a falling out with my father, miss understanding, taught that he killed some American Soldiers, ( his unit was always on the Eastern Front )my fathers brother was serving on a Division from New York KIA in Feb 1945 in Belgium. To bad loved going at his house across from Detroit to Windsor, gave me my brother and sister alot of toys for Christmas, one of the Hot Wheels I got is that Olds 442, still have the card ,worth over $1,000 at auction

  • @Raechel11
    @Raechel11 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for making the effort to share important parts of history such as this.

  • @christophermiller987
    @christophermiller987 Рік тому +2

    Mark, as always, WELL DONE SIR !!

  • @ukaszgrzesik7231
    @ukaszgrzesik7231 Рік тому +14

    Thanks! On the Swiss topic, I read that there was Polish division formed in France, that was too far south to be evacuated to UK after fall of France, and crossed and was interred in Switzerland. There are memorabilia of them in Polish museum in Rapperswill-Jona castle by Zurich lake. Apparently there was secret agreements between Swiss and Polish government that in the case of German invasion of Switzerland, division will be rearmed and fight under Swiss command. Could you shed some light at this topic?

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 Рік тому +2

      @Bernhard Schwarz It was no picnic to be "interred" by gnomes!

    • @Saeronor
      @Saeronor Рік тому +1

      @Bernhard Schwarz OTOH, a large number of those soldiers completed or expanded their education (including college- or even postgraduate tiers) despite being technically interned, which gave them a significant advantage in post-war world.

    • @skepticalobserver2135
      @skepticalobserver2135 Рік тому +2

      @Bernhard Schwarz Because it was supposed to be done for free? Do you house 'migrants' at your house on your own expense?

  • @ericawollmuth5055
    @ericawollmuth5055 Рік тому +7

    Mark, how about a documentary dealing with how you obtain these topics and where you find photos to go along with them?

  • @Fukenbumen
    @Fukenbumen Рік тому +1

    Learned something new. Your channel is a gem mr. Felton!

  • @mirola73
    @mirola73 Рік тому +1

    WHAAAT, Switzerland NOT being as neutral as they want us to believe ? Mark Felton never ceases to surprise me. Thanks !

  • @dfwSwiss
    @dfwSwiss Рік тому +11

    Wow, I have never heard of this so thank you for bringing it to light! I'm Swiss born and raised and pretty sure this level of involvement has not been publicly discussed in Switzerland in the 30+ years I lived there. Thank you for also pointing out the constant threat of invasion that Switzerland endured during the war! Not everything the Swiss government did during that time was great but the fact that they kept Nazi Germany out of Switzerland was, and still is, a big deal. Had to make many deals with the devil to keep the Swiss population safe.

    • @Stux6-3
      @Stux6-3 Рік тому

      Aaaand they "did and still do" love to have gold...

  • @808bigisland
    @808bigisland Рік тому +3

    My grandfather died in a concentration camp. He was drunk and fell off the watchtower.

  • @kiwifruit27
    @kiwifruit27 Рік тому +1

    Wow, another story I was not aware of. Excellent video, thanks

  • @neilsimpson3181
    @neilsimpson3181 Рік тому

    Thank you yet again for information I was unaware of

  • @johnned4848
    @johnned4848 Рік тому +34

    Speaking of internment of allied air crews in Switzerland and Sweden. I would love to learn more about what it was like to have been an internee. It would be a fascinating story to say the least.

    • @gravitypronepart2201
      @gravitypronepart2201 Рік тому +6

      I was thainking the same.

    • @raymondweaver8526
      @raymondweaver8526 Рік тому +6

      Yes, please do a report on this

    • @epstone
      @epstone Рік тому +3

      I recently went through a few boxes of my swiss grand fathers and great uncles books we inherited and i found a document used as a book mark. It was a signed of material check list of the stuff given to an interned soldier. No idea how it ended up in there!

    • @johnned4848
      @johnned4848 Рік тому

      @@epstone wow that's amazing! What was on the checklist? Items issued by the Swiss government to the internees? Any information on who this was? If nothing else maybe his family would like to know about this. Thanks for your reply!

    • @epstone
      @epstone Рік тому +4

      @@johnned4848 It is a checklist of working and personal items (socks underwear, working gloves, shirts, trousers, washing bag, bread bag etc.) this person gave a back to the internment camp in 1943. There is also a part where it says in case of loss of the items the person had to pay it with (food) ration checks. His name was Gerard Lazare so i assume it was a french soldier - i havent found imformation about him yet. It is fascinating indeed!

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 Рік тому +12

    If there's one thing the Swiss are known for, it's their transparency... 👀

    • @adolfmaotsestalin8753
      @adolfmaotsestalin8753 Рік тому

      Yeah sure, nazi transoarent collaborators

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Рік тому +2

      Don’t ask why every deposed dictator puts their money in Switzerland 😂😂

    • @krisfrederick5001
      @krisfrederick5001 Рік тому

      @@sto1238 Where?

  • @RCAFpolarexpress
    @RCAFpolarexpress Рік тому +1

    Very Interesting and Informative Video Sir 👍👌🧐🍻

  • @adamtennant4936
    @adamtennant4936 Рік тому

    Fascinating as always!

  • @johnavery3941
    @johnavery3941 Рік тому +39

    I used to work for UBS although I am Scottish but went to UBS Zurich Head Office many times and asked my colleagues from Switzerland whether it was true that Nazi Gold was sitting in the vaults beneath us and they may stay there forever as no one will ever claim them and they smiled, shrugged their shoulders and moved on with their day.

    • @Jreb1865
      @Jreb1865 Рік тому

      It certainly makes one wonder...

    • @Matt-iy2hk
      @Matt-iy2hk Рік тому +9

      Swiss Banks had, according to a joint report by US, Israeli and Swiss organisations about 400 million worth of assets from jewish victims of ww2 in the 90's. They paid 1.25 billion in reparation's for this in 1997. Do not try and make it sound more sinister than it is.

    • @user-rf9mx4qf7z
      @user-rf9mx4qf7z Рік тому +3

      That reaction was probably just because they've been asked that question a million times already.

    • @johnavery3941
      @johnavery3941 Рік тому

      I am well aware that Swiss Banks paid out well over a Billion Pounds in reperations in the ninities to the Jews to make themselves feel better about themselves but remember the Nazis did not just steal from the Jews as we know.

    • @johnavery3941
      @johnavery3941 Рік тому

      But they never deny it

  • @beverlyhills7883
    @beverlyhills7883 Рік тому +8

    Always excellent unbiased content. Thank you Mark Felton!

  • @gloriouse4458
    @gloriouse4458 Рік тому +1

    ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS INFO. AS I WAS RESEARCHING THIS EARLIER TODAY 😊✅🌺

  • @douglasruss2889
    @douglasruss2889 Рік тому +1

    Always informative !

  • @rangerista3933
    @rangerista3933 Рік тому +13

    Wow, I've never heard of this before, it certainly puts the Swiss in a new light regarding their neutrality.
    Another interesting find from Dr Felton.

    • @badchefi
      @badchefi Рік тому +4

      This was all common knowledge when I was growing up in Switzerland in the 70’s.
      The Hotel I did my apprenticeship in had photos of their ball room draped with swastika flags ready for the local Nazi party meetings (1930’s).
      I would estimate that about 1% of Swiss where adapting Nazi beliefs - I assume that to be a common thing of the times back then.
      Look at how many fly the Russian flag in the West - different times, similar patterns as humans are still susceptible to Propaganda just the same as back in the 1930’s.

    • @skepticalobserver2135
      @skepticalobserver2135 Рік тому +3

      @@badchefi Yes, very few Swiss were Nazi sympathizers. The reason Swiss-German is so prevalent today is because the city dwellers DROPPED Hochdeutsch in the 1930s and took up Schwyzerdeutsch (the common dialect of the countryside) was to REJECT any association with Nazi Germany.

  • @marks_sparks1
    @marks_sparks1 Рік тому +5

    Amazing work Dr Felton. A lot of people, myself included are going wow!

  • @douglasjones2570
    @douglasjones2570 Рік тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @pierreblaise9433
    @pierreblaise9433 Рік тому +1

    I from switzerland and I didn't know about it.
    Very interesting as usuel thanks for the good work.

  • @RobWhittlestone
    @RobWhittlestone Рік тому +4

    Very interesting. Another Swiss action in WW2 was the sale of weapons to both sides: my British father told me of the Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns which apparently both sides used. Mark rightly says the the Swiss trod a very fine line - both Axis and Allied aircraft were shot down if they transgressed into Swiss airspace.

    • @skepticalobserver2135
      @skepticalobserver2135 Рік тому +1

      The Oerlikon 20mm AA gun was built extensively under license by both sides.

  • @caseyjonessnr1200
    @caseyjonessnr1200 Рік тому +3

    Another small but important facet of the Second World War that I wasn’t aware of. Thank you for enlightening me.

  • @nighthiker8872
    @nighthiker8872 Рік тому +1

    You have the best introduction.

  • @pcojedi
    @pcojedi Рік тому +1

    Great video, I never heard of this and I love military history. Keep them coming Mr, Felton

  • @redrobur68
    @redrobur68 Рік тому +8

    This part of the Second World War is almost unknown in Germany. The only source I know (as an amateur historian) is from a Polish journalist and historian named Janusz Piekalkiewicz: "Switzerland on the brink of war". Nice play on words, by the way.

    • @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz
      @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz Рік тому

      There’s a lot more that is unknown there. The censorship approaches Soviet disinfo.

  • @keithlegge6848
    @keithlegge6848 Рік тому +33

    How does he unearth this material? His research is very impressive and obviously painstaking.

    • @archstanton6102
      @archstanton6102 Рік тому +8

      I think he has a team performing research.

    • @keithlegge6848
      @keithlegge6848 Рік тому +1

      @@archstanton6102 nice work.

    • @johnrath1324
      @johnrath1324 Рік тому

      A good way to create sympathy for the Jewish community from the Swiss

    • @fredblonder7850
      @fredblonder7850 Рік тому

      Time machine.

    • @renatovonschumacher3511
      @renatovonschumacher3511 Рік тому +5

      There was nothing to unearth. In Switzerland this topic is all very well known and widely published.

  • @thomasfranzstockhammer7846
    @thomasfranzstockhammer7846 Рік тому +1

    Amazing stuff !

  • @dgu8240
    @dgu8240 Рік тому +15

    I knew that the Swiss German relations during world war 2 were complicated but never to what extent. Shooting German planes down but sending medical assistant to the eastern front lol. I quite enjoy and learn a lot in your videos. I would be interested in more videos exploring these complicated relationships during ww2. I assume not only neutral Switzerlands but also neutral Sweden had some interesting relations in ww2 that aren't mainstream information today.

    • @hazed1009
      @hazed1009 Рік тому +4

      Wholeheartedly agree this would be a fantastic topic. And I think one that had rarely been covered in detail.
      How great would it be to have a series of videos about the craziest interactions between countries as their status changed during conflict. From partners to neutral or even like the italians who switched sides (a subject that has been covered but is fascinating)
      There must be plenty of examples to discover. I have often wondered about just what went on in the middle East during ww2 as there were British, Germans and French and their various allies all so close but seemingly not in conflict. I'd imagine places like Syria and iraq/Iran had all sorts of intriguing events.

    • @skate2freak898
      @skate2freak898 Рік тому +1

      technically, you can remain neutral from not being loyal to one side or the other, fighting for both, helping for both, trading with both etc

  • @AlexandruBurda
    @AlexandruBurda Рік тому +4

    Very interesting!
    There are some things that are less known about Switzerland. Like this one or like its nuclear weapons program after the war (the Swiss government planning to aquire the atomic bomb). Something I found out a few years ago with some amazement. It also worth a short documentary like this one. 🙂

  • @shawngrothe2686
    @shawngrothe2686 Рік тому

    A lot of the subject matter of Mr. Felton’s videos I have at least heard of but this is one of the ones totally new for me. Awesomeness!

  • @oldegrunt
    @oldegrunt Рік тому +2

    Knew of Swiss volunteers among many Europeans served against the Russians in the Winter War but hadn't heard about this.
    As usual even on a subject I've studied for years, I can still learn something new here.

  • @davidallen8611
    @davidallen8611 Рік тому +6

    Only posted for 1 minute and already 100 views 😂

  • @lovatojonasfan1
    @lovatojonasfan1 Рік тому +6

    I knew that Switzerland was involved in World War II but not to this extent. Well done Dr. Felton!

    • @CAP198462
      @CAP198462 Рік тому

      A lot like Spain it was a hub for intelligence work. If memory serves one of the Dulles brothers was stationed there by the OSS.

    • @skepticalobserver2135
      @skepticalobserver2135 Рік тому

      @@CAP198462 Bern was a center of Allied spying. Not only the Dulles but also Wild Bill Donovan.

  • @johnnyocal7454
    @johnnyocal7454 Рік тому

    Very good mark I knew nothin about this.thanks for the update

  • @exchequerguy4037
    @exchequerguy4037 Рік тому

    Another gem by Mark Felton :)

  • @FortuneZer0
    @FortuneZer0 Рік тому +6

    1:51 Fröntler were already banned by that point.
    Is a damn medical unit.

  • @joanofarc1338
    @joanofarc1338 Рік тому +3

    Another absolutely fascinating story. Dr. Felton, I very much look forward to your next video.

  • @paulmurphy42
    @paulmurphy42 Рік тому +1

    Keep 'em coming Mark!

  • @johnnyjohnny7204
    @johnnyjohnny7204 Рік тому

    another excellent addition to war knowledge.

  • @robertmartyr2041
    @robertmartyr2041 Рік тому +5

    a ww2 vet i knew, dan culler of the 44th bg , was held at wauwilermoos prison camp and what they did to him i just can't describe. in memory of my friend dan culler r.i.p

    • @badbotchdown9845
      @badbotchdown9845 Рік тому +1

      Poor thing

    • @44sunsets
      @44sunsets Рік тому +2

      I just looked up Wauwilermoos, that's horrifying. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

    • @robertmartyr2041
      @robertmartyr2041 Рік тому +1

      @@44sunsets dan wrote a book called the black hole of wauwilermoos and i would recommend you read it to fully understand the full horror dan went through.