I was saying that during the chargers game. Joe was competing against a legit defense and Justin Herbert was playing against our swiss cheese defense, and Joe's stats were still better than Herbert's. That is the case in just about every game we have played this season.
We need new scouts and coaches in the trenches bc its been bad for years. We've got the most unathletic Oline in the NFL and by a large margin. But then we turn around and ask them to pass block so much. There's been so many failings from top to bottom since the Superbowl season
We literally talk about the exact same issues every season. In the past the team had enough talent to overcome it barely. Now with less talent the truth is more exposed
Man it just sucks seeing this team like this. Unfortunately we let a couple key pieces to our defense go and it’s biting us in the ass. Our offense is rolling. The O Line I’m still not completely sold on but it’s better than it has been. We need Reader and Bates back bad or replaced next year ASAP
Pollack finally got his guy in Mims and honestly Mims has looked pretty good all things considered. It is very difficult to tell what is on him and what’s on personnel. I do think he’ll be fired but I think every single defensive coach should be on a hotter seat than him. They’ve gotten the premium pick players and haven’t developed them into anything.
Maybe on defense, but Burrow and Chase are NOT going to stop now. They are on a MVP pace and they'll want that to keep going. Esp Chase who is raising his value with every game. And Burrow is no quitter. So that means all the starting OL will remain in place too.
Zach isn’t the issue. Can’t make a high school level defense better players with coaching. The players suck on defense and the 2 Guards on the line are the worst
He is part of the issue. You can't throw 95% of the time. Your defense whether little league or nfl needs a chance to make the bench warm as well aka rest. I agree however the defense is god awful
@@thedropzoneunlimited5710 a better running back would not improve the team much if any is my point. I don’t care to be right, I think you are misunderstanding what my point is. More or less Brown has been 80% of what Mixon was. If we had Mixon I don’t think the bengals win any more of those games that they lost. Mixon was still better obviously, but didn’t affect winning/losing as much anymore
I don't want to borrow a supwr bowl ffs if you could enjoy bill coming here and doing it for you than you don't have a competitive spirit. Keep that "if ya can't beat em join em" nonsense outta here.
Mixon>Moss prolly = 2 wins in just fumbles!!! So stupid!!! Nobody can be later to the play then Stone. I still think they could mess around with playing CTB at saftey.
Why is the offensive line still a problem for the Bengals? They’ve been working on that line for years. I watch other teams draft rookie after the Bengals draft and the guy starts every game. He looks fantastic.
I don’t get all the fanbase that are going for the coaches only… what about this front office??? Mike Brown and family? They are the ones who didn’t extend Bates or Reader! Or Duke Tobin who Chamge Mixon for Moss, and Change the possibility to select Teven Jenkins for Jackson Carman… and since Burrow is here they haven’t been able to protect him any single season! And Now they haven’t extended Higgins or Chase and Chase it’s going to be way more expensive! And yes, Burrow and Chase are going to be the most expensive players at their position… but even so… is cheaper to only pay a couple of players that to your team! The problem is and is always have been… the Front Office!!!!
Hubbard, Volson, Kappa, Karras, Rankins, Bell, and Stone all need to be replaced next season plus we’ll probably need a new WR#2 & maybe even TE. We also need a David Montgomery to our Gibbs (Chase Brown). I actually think we have a bright future at corner as Dax, Turner, & Fig all seem promising. That’s a lot of holes for us to be contenders again, and no one trusts this FO/coaching staff to get that done right now.
Good coaching will make changes..NOT THE BENGALS Why would you want to play anymore...for zach?? Most of burrow and chase ,s big plays have come on broken plays...they play better unscripted... DID ANYBODY SEE THE INTENSITY IN THE CHARGERS LOCKER ROOM AFTER THE GAME?? They were jumping, screaming, giving each other credit, and high fives were flying everywhere, with the head coach, Harbaugh,right in the middle, screaming, creating all the celebration ... So tired of Zach making excuse after every game, saying its a PROGRESSION, a PROGRESSION...at this point WHAT TO HECK DOES THAT MEAN??😮
Murphy isn't playing probably because he has no pass rush moves. I seen him bull rush only which isn't working. Learn a counter. He's better in madden. Tycen Anderson should have been gotten a chance in game. Has the best speed on a safety on the team. We need a playmaker on defense who gets picks
Stone, Hubbard, Bell, all need to be 2nd string and cut after the season. CTB can move to safety, he is not a cover corner nor is mike hilton. Murray, Newton, Battle all should be starting.
Agree about Stone and Hubbard.Hubbard has never been any good.Don't know why he was ever given a starting job.Time to bench Hubbard,Let Murphy play the rest of the season.
We gave literally nothing to lose. Our backs are literally against the wall. This team has pissed me off so much I cant even be more coordial about this.
2021 offensive line draft. Our Cincinnati Bengals select JACKSON CARMEN...Kc takes CREED HUMPHREY...next day our Cincinnati bengals select DIANTE SMITH...kc takes TREY SMITH. ....then we wonder why kc has 2 more rings and were getting our franchise qb killed
This Marco Wilson is curious. A typical Tier-3 add but really the resume isn't all that terrible compared to lots of the other Duke roster fillings. Unlike the last corner (VH) Florida late year add if we win 9 in a row and hes deactivated in the SUPER BOWL please make sure he doesn't run on the field to celebrate in jeans or dress shoes. He did throw a shoe in college but at last he had uniform on...HELP US FOOTBALL GODS!
This past draft was loaded with interior offensive lineman and these dumbys waited until day3 😢. Don't get me started on there lack of getting another runningback. I guess when you recklessly drop back 50 times a game, the best thing that has ever happened to your franchise, so he gets his ass kicked week in and week out, no running back is required. Zac is mediocre at best. Katie & Company only care about there profits. When Joe is done in Cincy, everyone needs to be done as well.
@@brownshoeT2Our definitions of "trying" are very different. They haven't drafted an IOL higher than the 4th round(Cordell Volson!) since Burrow's been here. Before Mims they spent one high pick on a tackle (Jackson Carman!).
@@newfoundmoralclarity LG is the only position on the line that hasn't been addressed by either early in the draft or FA. Since Zac became HC we've drafted 3 OL just in the first two rounds. I would consider going for one position group in the first two picks 3 out of 6 years is trying. Especially when we've been bringing in a TON of FAs. We need a new OL coach for sure and at least one new guard. Our tackles are good and Karras isn't the weak link.
Nastiest is true there is no one on our defense you Fear. Even Trey he sometimes disappears we need better athletes slow safety Stone is trash slow is hell. Linebacker are slow also. Hubbard is terrible. If you look at the top Defensive they have some nasty players you fear
They'll make the wrong decision. They usually make the wrong decisions, especially regarding personnel. No reason to think they'll wise up at this point.
Remember when they drafted the two tackles in the first and second round like 5 years ago and both of them were absolute busts? Who here posting couldn't do that shity of a job? Seriously, even I looked at the drafting of that Cedric guy coming off the torn ACL as their first round pick and asked who does that? Seriously who? How dumb is the front office ?may God let them see this so they can go look at themselves in the mirror to see how stupid they are. The franchise is a joke, why in the heck do we even care about them anymore? I can't even listen to this podcast because the Bengals are just not worth the time anymore
Why is Vin bell and Hubbard playing? Hubbard it dog shit and Bell is old and slow also he o stone worked good with great tackling around him and not being asked to tackle so bell being 50 in CB years doesn’t help also Pratt has never been a good tackler he tackles high every time to use his size but he’s slow and when it’s a big RB like Henry it doesn’t work aka get someone else in there. And we used a 1st round pick to get someone on the other side of Hendrickson and every time I watch him he moves the pocket 10x more than Hubbard but we barely use him. Trash ass coaches and DJ Ivey and Newton neeed wayyyy more snaps
Remember when they drafted the two tackles in the first and second round like 5 years ago and both of them were absolute busts? Who here posting couldn't do that shity of a job? Seriously, even I looked at the drafting of that Cedric guy coming off the torn ACL as their first round pick and asked who does that? Seriously who? How dumb is the front office ?may God let them see this so they can go look at themselves in the mirror to see how stupid they are. The franchise is a joke, why in the heck do we even care about them anymore?
Nastiest is true there is no one on our defense you Fear. Even Trey he sometimes disappears we need better athletes slow safety Stone is trash slow is hell. Linebacker are slow also. Hubbard is terrible. If you look at the top Defensive they have some nasty players you fear
I was saying that during the chargers game. Joe was competing against a legit defense and Justin Herbert was playing against our swiss cheese defense, and Joe's stats were still better than Herbert's. That is the case in just about every game we have played this season.
Y’all said Mixon had lost a step. With season he is having in Houston, it’s apparent that coaching/scheme is the problem
He’s also lost 10lbs to regain a step
Whoever said to cut Mixon was dead wrong. I was definitely in the camp at laughing at people who thought Moss was going to be an upgrade
Mixon is playing better with Houston,because he is trying harder.He was lazym and not giving 100% effort,when he was with the Bengals.
@@snave59maybe because our line sucked and Zac wouldn’t run the fucking ball perhaps 🤔
It was these clowns on here advocating to cut Mixon
how the hell could Tycen Anderson be worse than what they have at safety? Geno Stone is like 90th out of 97 Safeties in the league
Dont tell Joe Goodberry that. He says Geno gives them the best chance to win lol!
Great question
Duke Tobin needs to be looked at. Some of decisions he makes?
Thanks for the upload Jake and
James. Even though I'm hurting right now for my Tigers... I need the upload
Rankins only did good against bengals last season
Mixon’s season proves the Bengals Oline is horrible and the FO has no idea what it’s doing.
Cincy did go out for a good OL and what we have is what they found. So, you're right on both counts.
Pollack is the problem. Has been forever. Dudes gotta go.
Part of the problem is the offensive scheme.
We need new scouts and coaches in the trenches bc its been bad for years. We've got the most unathletic Oline in the NFL and by a large margin. But then we turn around and ask them to pass block so much. There's been so many failings from top to bottom since the Superbowl season
Truth. The team needs a full scouting staff. Their drafts prove to be bad almost every time.
I'm interested. Send them the Bengal Guru's way.
Let’s do it. The season is over. We need to see who can play and who can’t and determine how bad our drafting has been.
Zac is not coaching for his job. That would mean this teams ownership cares about a championship.
Exactly. We’ll be stuck with him.
Tyson Anderson should get to play safety.
We literally talk about the exact same issues every season. In the past the team had enough talent to overcome it barely. Now with less talent the truth is more exposed
Man it just sucks seeing this team like this. Unfortunately we let a couple key pieces to our defense go and it’s biting us in the ass. Our offense is rolling. The O Line I’m still not completely sold on but it’s better than it has been. We need Reader and Bates back bad or replaced next year ASAP
Pollack finally got his guy in Mims and honestly Mims has looked pretty good all things considered. It is very difficult to tell what is on him and what’s on personnel. I do think he’ll be fired but I think every single defensive coach should be on a hotter seat than him. They’ve gotten the premium pick players and haven’t developed them into anything.
Pollack has had plenty of talent to work with and his lines always suck. Dudes time is up.
Frank has been here long enough to prove he ain't it. Let's try someone else.
Exactly. I honestly don’t get how this man still has a job?
Agreed it's sickening he still has a job.
Start Jordan Battle and bench Geno Stone!!
Maybe on defense, but Burrow and Chase are NOT going to stop now. They are on a MVP pace and they'll want that to keep going. Esp Chase who is raising his value with every game. And Burrow is no quitter. So that means all the starting OL will remain in place too.
Bench vets. Pay jamar. Pay Hendrickson. Get the defense right and fire Zach. Mixon having a career year. Ish is disgusting
Zach isn’t the issue. Can’t make a high school level defense better players with coaching. The players suck on defense and the 2 Guards on the line are the worst
He is part of the issue. You can't throw 95% of the time. Your defense whether little league or nfl needs a chance to make the bench warm as well aka rest. I agree however the defense is god awful
@@thedropzoneunlimited5710 we have to throw every play because the 2 guards can’t create holes for runs. Another personnel issue, not a coaching error
Stop. Chase brown has done well with the few touches he's got and he is not mixon. I get it you want to be right. Carry on. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@thedropzoneunlimited5710 a better running back would not improve the team much if any is my point. I don’t care to be right, I think you are misunderstanding what my point is. More or less Brown has been 80% of what Mixon was. If we had Mixon I don’t think the bengals win any more of those games that they lost. Mixon was still better obviously, but didn’t affect winning/losing as much anymore
Let’s start the noise gang, BILL BELLICHICK TO CINCINNATI.
I don't want to borrow a supwr bowl ffs if you could enjoy bill coming here and doing it for you than you don't have a competitive spirit. Keep that "if ya can't beat em join em" nonsense outta here.
Preposterous. Go to meier and buy strip of super mega lotto tickets. Better chance
Google 2003 TOM COUGHLIN HEAD COACH BENGALS INTERVIEW...then buy more Lotto tickets.
Knowing Mike hell hire bills son as hc. Google 1992 BENGALS HEAD COACHING CANDIDATES...
Mixon>Moss prolly = 2 wins in just fumbles!!! So stupid!!! Nobody can be later to the play then Stone. I still think they could mess around with playing CTB at saftey.
Why is the offensive line still a problem for the Bengals? They’ve been working on that line for years. I watch other teams draft rookie after the Bengals draft and the guy starts every game. He looks fantastic.
Is Miles Murphy still on this team? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 One of the best all around first round draft picks in history 😂😂😂 right up there with Billy Price
I don’t get all the fanbase that are going for the coaches only… what about this front office??? Mike Brown and family? They are the ones who didn’t extend Bates or Reader! Or Duke Tobin who Chamge Mixon for Moss, and Change the possibility to select Teven Jenkins for Jackson Carman… and since Burrow is here they haven’t been able to protect him any single season! And Now they haven’t extended Higgins or Chase and Chase it’s going to be way more expensive!
And yes, Burrow and Chase are going to be the most expensive players at their position… but even so… is cheaper to only pay a couple of players that to your team! The problem is and is always have been… the Front Office!!!!
Hubbard, Volson, Kappa, Karras, Rankins, Bell, and Stone all need to be replaced next season plus we’ll probably need a new WR#2 & maybe even TE. We also need a David Montgomery to our Gibbs (Chase Brown).
I actually think we have a bright future at corner as Dax, Turner, & Fig all seem promising.
That’s a lot of holes for us to be contenders again, and no one trusts this FO/coaching staff to get that done right now.
Good coaching will make changes..NOT THE BENGALS
Why would you want to play anymore...for zach??
Most of burrow and chase ,s big plays have come on broken plays...they play better unscripted...
DID ANYBODY SEE THE INTENSITY IN THE CHARGERS LOCKER ROOM AFTER THE GAME??
They were jumping, screaming, giving each other credit, and high fives were flying everywhere, with the head coach, Harbaugh,right in the middle, screaming, creating all the celebration ...
So tired of Zach making excuse after every game, saying its a PROGRESSION, a PROGRESSION...at this point WHAT TO HECK DOES THAT MEAN??😮
There’s hasn’t been as much under center in recent weeks as beginning of the season
Quite honestly, the seventh seat is wide open between the Colts, Bengals and the Dolphins everybody else is either in or no chance
Why ? Our #3 and 4 DTs etc. If one is performing at high level. They are starting . Jenkins Simms etc
Mock draft thrusday?
How do you get in the mail bag?
BRING ON BELICHICK!!
Murphy isn't playing probably because he has no pass rush moves. I seen him bull rush only which isn't working. Learn a counter. He's better in madden. Tycen Anderson should have been gotten a chance in game. Has the best speed on a safety on the team. We need a playmaker on defense who gets picks
Stone, Hubbard, Bell, all need to be 2nd string and cut after the season. CTB can move to safety, he is not a cover corner nor is mike hilton. Murray, Newton, Battle all should be starting.
Agree about Stone and Hubbard.Hubbard has never been any good.Don't know why he was ever given a starting job.Time to bench Hubbard,Let Murphy play the rest of the season.
We gave literally nothing to lose. Our backs are literally against the wall. This team has pissed me off so much I cant even be more coordial about this.
Geno Stone didn’t make sense as a FA signing this summer and he doesn’t make sense starting after the bye.
Free Anderson!!
2021 offensive line draft. Our Cincinnati Bengals select JACKSON CARMEN...Kc takes CREED HUMPHREY...next day our Cincinnati bengals select DIANTE SMITH...kc takes TREY SMITH. ....then we wonder why kc has 2 more rings and were getting our franchise qb killed
It took a young man to break his bone to sign a CB. Something is seriously wrong with this FO and staff.
This Marco Wilson is curious. A typical Tier-3 add but really the resume isn't all that terrible compared to lots of the other Duke roster fillings. Unlike the last corner (VH) Florida late year add if we win 9 in a row and hes deactivated in the SUPER BOWL please make sure he doesn't run on the field to celebrate in jeans or dress shoes. He did throw a shoe in college but at last he had uniform on...HELP US FOOTBALL GODS!
Tee Higgins and jamarr Chase
Joe burrow should have dressed up as a piñata for Halloween since it’s what his line treats him as
So use the youth
Who cant communicate
Its the 10th game of season and the defense cant communicate
Send the brown family, Tobin, and Taylor to Davy Jones’ locker!
Who has Frank coached that has improved under him?
This past draft was loaded with interior offensive lineman and these dumbys waited until day3 😢. Don't get me started on there lack of getting another runningback. I guess when you recklessly drop back 50 times a game, the best thing that has ever happened to your franchise, so he gets his ass kicked week in and week out, no running back is required. Zac is mediocre at best. Katie & Company only care about there profits. When Joe is done in Cincy, everyone needs to be done as well.
They could've built a phenomenal IOL over the last couple of drafts
I haven't been upset with this year's draft. Previous drafts though...
@newfoundmoralclarity we've been trying to fix our OL every season since 2021.
@@brownshoeT2Our definitions of "trying" are very different. They haven't drafted an IOL higher than the 4th round(Cordell Volson!) since Burrow's been here. Before Mims they spent one high pick on a tackle (Jackson Carman!).
@@newfoundmoralclarity LG is the only position on the line that hasn't been addressed by either early in the draft or FA. Since Zac became HC we've drafted 3 OL just in the first two rounds. I would consider going for one position group in the first two picks 3 out of 6 years is trying. Especially when we've been bringing in a TON of FAs. We need a new OL coach for sure and at least one new guard. Our tackles are good and Karras isn't the weak link.
Zac should let somebody else call the plays since the season over
Jordan battle should be playing so should newton
Nastiest is true there is no one on our defense you Fear. Even Trey he sometimes disappears we need better athletes slow safety Stone is trash slow is hell. Linebacker are slow also. Hubbard is terrible. If you look at the top Defensive they have some nasty players you fear
There is one good player on defense. One. How many other teams can say they only have one decent player on defense
Who have they drafted in the last 3 years that is worth half a s***?seriously? Duke Tobin and their scouting department is a flipping joke
Jamaine Pratt is slower than death we need faster linebackers please
I never to see Geno Stone take the field again. Don't care if he's replaced with Tycen.Anderson, Daijahn Anthony, or James Rapien
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣! Agreed!
Sometimes you need to move on. The same thing applies to coaches that applies to players. It is a business decision.
They'll make the wrong decision. They usually make the wrong decisions, especially regarding personnel. No reason to think they'll wise up at this point.
Sam Hubbard hasn't made a play in 2 years!
Bengals 52 bye week 55 defense can’t even win on a bye week
Remember when they drafted the two tackles in the first and second round like 5 years ago and both of them were absolute busts? Who here posting couldn't do that shity of a job? Seriously, even I looked at the drafting of that Cedric guy coming off the torn ACL as their first round pick and asked who does that? Seriously who? How dumb is the front office ?may God let them see this so they can go look at themselves in the mirror to see how stupid they are. The franchise is a joke, why in the heck do we even care about them anymore? I can't even listen to this podcast because the Bengals are just not worth the time anymore
Why they’re even worse than the veterans poor draft picks the last few years
Fun fact. We're one of the oldest teams in the league
Fun fact, we suck
Why is Vin bell and Hubbard playing? Hubbard it dog shit and Bell is old and slow also he o stone worked good with great tackling around him and not being asked to tackle so bell being 50 in CB years doesn’t help also Pratt has never been a good tackler he tackles high every time to use his size but he’s slow and when it’s a big RB like Henry it doesn’t work aka get someone else in there. And we used a 1st round pick to get someone on the other side of Hendrickson and every time I watch him he moves the pocket 10x more than Hubbard but we barely use him. Trash ass coaches and DJ Ivey and Newton neeed wayyyy more snaps
Remember when they drafted the two tackles in the first and second round like 5 years ago and both of them were absolute busts? Who here posting couldn't do that shity of a job? Seriously, even I looked at the drafting of that Cedric guy coming off the torn ACL as their first round pick and asked who does that? Seriously who? How dumb is the front office ?may God let them see this so they can go look at themselves in the mirror to see how stupid they are. The franchise is a joke, why in the heck do we even care about them anymore?
They should switch to eval mode after they lose to the Steelers in 10 days
Not until they are eliminated. They don’t have depth so will have to play some by necessity anyway.
2 more losses and they'll be eliminated at 9 losses
Who’s the youth lol 😂😂
Boy! Bengals are pathetic! New coach needed....new owner needed...maybe sell the team to another city!
and, or, but, except, in respect...............yawn
So u tellin me taking the ping pong table out the locker room not helping? 🫤
Nastiest is true there is no one on our defense you Fear. Even Trey he sometimes disappears we need better athletes slow safety Stone is trash slow is hell. Linebacker are slow also. Hubbard is terrible. If you look at the top Defensive they have some nasty players you fear