Can an EV be a Real Hot Hatch? Fiat 500e Abarth full review

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  • @jabezhane
    @jabezhane Рік тому +355

    A great way to burn £35000! I hope that 15 years from now we'll sit in a pub and go "Remember that whole EV car BS?" and have a good laugh.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  Рік тому +463

      I don't think that conversation will happen. EVs are not BS - they are excellent in a multitude of scenerarios and for various people. But no, they aren't going to work for everyone. We've lived on petrol for 120+ years, but change shouldn't mean tribal hatred. Pistons and electric can co-exist. Jonny has V8, EV, hybrid and Vtec!

    • @Everything_Evan
      @Everything_Evan Рік тому +24

      Yeah it's a hole they just keep digging crazy

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Рік тому +98

      @@TheLateBrakeShow Oh I have no problem with co-existing. The fact that the eco issues EVs have get swept under the carpet... That and they fact that the pwoers that be will have to do a massive u-turn when the usual sleepy populace wake up and find that 70% cant afford to buy into the EV dream or its just not practical. I think the big thing will be high efficiency 1000cc ICEs with say 90HP and pushing 75-80mpg. Not all of us need two tons of EV SUV costing £55000 and then worth £5000 5 years later.

    • @Ryukachoo
      @Ryukachoo Рік тому +215

      I hope 15 years from now you'll sit in the pub and say " remember that dumb comment I made that age terribly?" and have a laugh

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Рік тому +18

      @@Ryukachoo I'd be happy...but it seems highly unlikely.

  • @catmandoodoo7903
    @catmandoodoo7903 Рік тому +47

    The artificial sound is the automotive equivalent of sticking a card in your bicycle spokes.

    • @deansmits006
      @deansmits006 Рік тому +1

      Yet auto journalists keep harping on EVs lacking sound excitement. But when they do offer it, they are ridiculed for having fake sounds, unnecessary. Who cares if it's fake? If you want to hear engine sounds, and it's done well, and it's all heard inside so you don't bother other people, why not have your cake? Perhaps someone just needs to develop a really good simulation, paired with excellent steering feel, and haptic motors in the seat and steering wheel to get people to like it. I dunno

    • @catmandoodoo7903
      @catmandoodoo7903 Рік тому +1

      @@deansmits006 the journalists seem to be the ones going on about noise. All the EV owners I know love the quietness of their cars. Mind you, most of the people I know are car enthusiasts who have more than one vehicle.

    • @Frank-pc2rs
      @Frank-pc2rs 5 місяців тому +1

      You can turn it off. Lol.

  • @theidiot1297
    @theidiot1297 Рік тому +109

    It’s great that there are three genuine fun, hot hatch EVs. Just wish they had 50% more range and were 10k cheaper.

    • @sab0nes
      @sab0nes Рік тому +3

      That's what I'm dealing with now. I drive the first Gen 500 electric. Love everything about it but the range. 200-250 miles not in eco mode would be perfect

    • @float32
      @float32 Рік тому +1

      @@sab0nesme too. Rear wheel drive would also be nice. Can’t put the power down in the corners!

    • @graemejohnson9025
      @graemejohnson9025 Рік тому +4

      And you could drive them anywhere without the need to find a charging station. And sit and wait.. twiddling thumbs. It's all bs..

    • @rallychamp2003
      @rallychamp2003 Рік тому

      Check out the price of nearly new, second hand. I saw some 500e's that were less than a year old and half the new price.

    • @rallychamp2003
      @rallychamp2003 Рік тому

      @@graemejohnson9025 After 2 hours of intensive driving in a 500e recently I was ready and happy for a 30 minute break. Stretch of legs, loo, coffee and a snack and catching up on WhatsApp, 10% to 90% rapid charging was over in a flash and I was ready for the next 2 hours of super fun.

  • @Andrew-qb3oq
    @Andrew-qb3oq Рік тому +6

    Everyone seems to be whining about the price, but most new cars are expensive. Especially electrics. I have an original 2015 500e with sticker price of $36,500. They didn't sell well, but were quite common lease cars in California. Less than 4 years later the cars we're worth around $6k. Which is around the time i bought one. I still have it as a back up EV and battery is still giving me the same range as it did when i picked it up. I suspect the new 500e and abarth will benefit from heavy depreciation. Especially as battery technology progresses. This will be an excellent offlease purchase in 2 to 4 years. Can't wait.

  • @paulallen6915
    @paulallen6915 Рік тому +4

    The Italians are renown for their electrical prowess, what could possibly go wrong....

  • @RaHorakthi33
    @RaHorakthi33 Рік тому +25

    Fun fact: on the wireless charging pad for the phones you can see the stylized drawing of the city of Turin (the pointy architeture is the Mole Antonelliana)

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  Рік тому +2

      True. Not that interesting though. Jonny saw that on the original 500e review.

    • @alfb1989
      @alfb1989 Рік тому +18

      @@TheLateBrakeShowBit needlessly dismissive of a fan’s comment? Disappointing

    • @PimsLegacy
      @PimsLegacy 4 місяці тому

      @@TheLateBrakeShow Bit harsh. And rich of you to think we watch every video. If someone started watching your channel on this video.. not good practice to comment in this way.
      So: 'Not that kind though. Hope Jonny sees your comment and corrects you.'

  • @JustAnoth3rHuman
    @JustAnoth3rHuman Рік тому +109

    Very cool looking car. Absolutely insane prices, starting at 34k! I’ll be commuting via horse & cart if this is the trend.

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Рік тому +16

      No, just suck it up and be a good sheep now!

    • @barneyrubble9309
      @barneyrubble9309 Рік тому +7

      That's the whole point.

    • @Sabre_Wulf1
      @Sabre_Wulf1 Рік тому +6

      Horse and cart is the ultimate workaround for ULEZ.

    • @bid84
      @bid84 Рік тому +7

      @@jabezhane”sheep” is what people who can’t afford an EV say. You can buy a Suzuki ignis petrol for under 16k. No one has a gun to your head to go electric

    • @jeffhopkins5704
      @jeffhopkins5704 Рік тому +3

      @@bid84 yet.

  • @happychappers8311
    @happychappers8311 Рік тому +72

    I cant think of anything sadder than a fake engine sound. I can certainty find something better to spend £38k on.

    • @goosegog
      @goosegog Рік тому +1

      A wig is sadder, but only just! 🤣

    • @Zanpaa
      @Zanpaa Рік тому +4

      You could also just not get the version with fake engine sound, or disable it.

    • @muckspreader1able
      @muckspreader1able Рік тому +9

      @@Zanpaaor buy a petrol one or buy something totally better for £38k like a focus r/s and s3 golf r all better then this embarrassment.

    • @happychappers8311
      @happychappers8311 Рік тому +4

      @goosegog so it's a middle-class, mid-life crisis? Trying desperately to stay trendy and cool while appeasing your wife's friends.

    • @Modge17
      @Modge17 Рік тому +4

      I’d get a used R35 GTR 😂

  • @petesplaneta9340
    @petesplaneta9340 Рік тому +26

    It’s a fun category. To be honest I quite love chucking my Corsa E about. I’m sure it’s not as planted but it’s cheaper had more range and can rapid charge quicker.
    I have driven a Honda e and it was nice, but the problem is if I’m going to drive along some twisty roads I’ll probably be travelling 50 miles somewhere and 50 back. With Honda E, Fiat 500e Arbarth or Mini e ranges and a right foot that’s having fun, I won’t be able to do the return trip without getting pretty close to empty.

    • @maxtorque2277
      @maxtorque2277 Рік тому +1

      BMW i3s. By far the most fun EV with a reasonable range (~160 miles) Far more FUN to drive than HondaE, 500e, CorsaE or in fact any other EV ime

    • @geetee4037
      @geetee4037 Рік тому +1

      Pretty close to empty is fine, charge at home. Travel 45 miles and back instead?

  • @keithdargie1755
    @keithdargie1755 Рік тому +17

    I’m on my second Abarth Competizione, I love them. The usability of them in town is awesome. Love the look of the electric one, not keen on the engine noise generator - I would have preferred a more modern turbine like noise but I think they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t as the exhaust is so intrinsic to the Abarth experience. I’m tempted, it’s expensive but I like it. Couldn’t have a Honda e as I fell in love with concept car then they ruined it for me with the production shape. Great review 👍

    • @apathyboy5306
      @apathyboy5306 2 місяці тому

      I’m in the same boat mate. Own a petrol Abarth. Really liked the electric version. Just a little too pricey and the range not exceptional

  • @Steve_Hallett
    @Steve_Hallett Рік тому +17

    I'm almost certainly on my own, but this summed up one of my problems with modern cars. At my age I find modern infotainment systems far too distracting and quite frankly a bit of a risk. There is info all over the place. I'm happy with the basics.

  • @123rtheo
    @123rtheo Рік тому +37

    Hang on so it’s nearly 40k and they want another 600 quid for a fancy paint colour unbelievable. 😂

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b Рік тому +1

      All car makers charge extra for colour options. Usually one colour is standard, often black or white, then you pay extra for something different. This can be up to £3k for a special Matt or individual colour.

    • @villa50bis
      @villa50bis Рік тому +2

      I paused in the video when Jonny announced the price to come and say the same thing! Wtf?

    • @mattpointon8093
      @mattpointon8093 Рік тому

      Lamborghini do the same

    • @muckspreader1able
      @muckspreader1able Рік тому +2

      Yep they’ll,always be a fool that will part with their money.Let them😂

    • @mbak7801
      @mbak7801 Рік тому

      As a second car if I was buying new then I would limit my spending to £35K. A main car can be over £40K but again I would stagger purchases by a couple of years.

  • @fanBladeOne
    @fanBladeOne 10 місяців тому +2

    Interested in the EV-transition. Great Fiat 500 fan. Also an AvGeek first class. This video was quite something to behold 👍

  • @barneyrubble9309
    @barneyrubble9309 Рік тому +10

    Best thing about the vid was the spitfire.

  • @livingwithosteoarthritis.
    @livingwithosteoarthritis. Рік тому +1

    Engines are always better. Probably the best thing in this video is a spitfire actually it is the best thing in the video. I didn’t get past the advertisement

  • @deanw666
    @deanw666 Рік тому +16

    As an ICE Abarth owner, I love the look of this A500e. I think the front grilles need to be black, and the diffusers could be something other than white, but looks wise, I really like it,
    A lot of complaints from the Abarth community are regarding the price as well as the sound maker. But if you compare the price to similar sport version cars on the market, it's not too far out, but it's still quite blooming pricey for what it is. But look at the new Civic Type R and compare the price of that to a Civic from 10-15 years ago.
    Maybe they'll be more popular after a couple of years when they have lost the main bulk of the depreciation, but time will tell.
    Nice balanced review squire!

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  Рік тому +5

      Great comment, thank you for taking the time to write.

    • @deanw666
      @deanw666 Рік тому +3

      @@TheLateBrakeShow Never a problem! Thank you for your reply 👍👍

    • @muckspreader1able
      @muckspreader1able Рік тому

      I wouldn’t tell anyone😂

    • @deanw666
      @deanw666 Рік тому +2

      @@muckspreader1able what wouldn't you tell anyone?

    • @float32
      @float32 Рік тому +1

      Used of the only reasonable way to buy electric.

  • @jonnyboy8781
    @jonnyboy8781 Рік тому +2

    £38k? You are havin a laugh!
    1.4 tonnes.
    Front-wheel drive.
    One-speed.
    0-60 only 7 secs?
    This is a ‘neutered’ Arbath. All the fun’s been extracted.
    Longer & wider apparently an improvement comfort-wise but the handling?
    And, the piston engine is an amazing machine.
    Electric-cars for the middle-classes!

  • @markhamilton7289
    @markhamilton7289 Рік тому +15

    Had a 1hr drive in one and it was a really fun little car. Switched the speaker off after 5 mins at the first opportunity though. The abarth was really well damped for a small hot hatch …better than my 330e over broken tarmac tbh. It’s fun and interesting which frankly we need more of.

  • @egold33311
    @egold33311 Рік тому +72

    Just went on their website, looked at the price of £34,195 for the lowest spec, laughed and came back to watch this video!

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Рік тому +11

      Yeah that's the problem! When you have to spend that much for a city car...GTFO That and you'll want to get rid of it after 4-5 years and it will be worth next to nothing.

    • @crossy7225
      @crossy7225 Рік тому +10

      Jesus christ. I had no idea it was that price. Thanks but no thanks

    • @Perthshire
      @Perthshire Рік тому +4

      It's a NO from me. They're having a laugh.

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ Рік тому +11

      Ugly, overpriced, poor range, and probably just as unergonomic for 6 foot plus guys as the original 500. Someone would have to be on crack to choose this as their ‘fun’ car over a GR Yaris for the same price, and there’s better electric commuters for the money.

    • @andyspinks9996
      @andyspinks9996 Рік тому +4

      No one will buy that at that price 😂 wow.

  • @NativeTexMexican
    @NativeTexMexican Рік тому +3

    Pretty cool of that Spitfire to provide air cover for your shoot... 👍🏽

  • @mikerivers9634
    @mikerivers9634 6 місяців тому

    I’ve got a Competizione Cabrio and have just ordered the 500e Cabrio. The EV experience is on another level… seriously. I drove a Honda E through central London and the experience was actually quite calming. Refinement comes to mind, and I almost thought about getting one but opted for this one as it’s the best looker by far.

  • @markahomer
    @markahomer Рік тому +3

    As a long standing purchaser of brand new Abarths they can shove this where the exhaust is supposed to be.

  • @wayneauchmuty6045
    @wayneauchmuty6045 Рік тому +12

    Will the new Renault 5 fall into this category also? Or be a larger car? Love the look of the Abarth, but the Renualt 5 really interests me!

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  Рік тому +8

      5 Renault will

    • @andyboardman7428
      @andyboardman7428 Рік тому

      @@TheLateBrakeShow hi Johnny,,any news on the Escort RS Cossi mate?

    • @peterlaine5774
      @peterlaine5774 11 місяців тому

      There's a hot hatch Alpine version of the Renault 5 coming

  • @GoingSidewards
    @GoingSidewards Рік тому +3

    Great review Jonny! I love my piston Abarth, yes it’s not very good, but the best cars are interesting, not good. This looks fantastic, but $60,000?!?

  • @michaelwoolgar6097
    @michaelwoolgar6097 Рік тому +2

    Great review Jonny! The Honda E was the first electric car that interested me but this is the first EV I've ever wanted to buy myself. And considering my current car is an BMW M2 Competition, I say that's an impressive achievement from the humble Abarth! Test drove one last weekend and adored the driving feel which reminded me of my old Fiesta ST-3, the footprint of the car is tiny and means you can place it so well. Negatives were the left foot placement for us right hand drive counties, the speaker (But can be switched off so moot point) and of course the roughly 150 mile range. But considering my M2 Comp delivers just over 200 miles for a £70 tank, 50 miles less for a £4 fill up? That's a fair trade! It's been refreshing considering what I use a car for during this process as although the M2C is epic, you get illegal so quickly and the bills? The bills! Decided my next car is going to be the Abarth 500e and really looking forward to see what EV driving is about, with the first EV I've ever cared about.

    • @kalmmonke5037
      @kalmmonke5037 Рік тому

      peopelare saying its a whoel structure dedicated to being a ev, why did they not make it lower to ground and forget trying to have a the small trunk? would have more range, more agility and g forces from preserving momentum around turns, it might as well have a limited slip diffrential in the name of less tire wear damage for less usage of tires and less of that supposedly endrocrine disrupting microplastics emissions, especially as noone thinks to not acclerate too much around turns for these reasons anyway, even normal cars should have it in the enviromentalist perspective, and thats before the sporty drivers are happy too. engine noise should be customizable .

    • @Blackmamba12345
      @Blackmamba12345 Рік тому

      @@kalmmonke5037Because people don’t want nor need more range in these types of cars. Most people who buy these cars already have at least another car for longer journeys and most like three or four cars in their household. Therefore this is mostly for short distance commutes or short travels.

  • @Andy-2022
    @Andy-2022 Рік тому +7

    Who in their right mind would spend 38 grand on a fiat 500!

    • @muckspreader1able
      @muckspreader1able Рік тому +1

      They’ll be an idiot somewhere don’t worry then in 2 years it’ll be worth maybe £20k😂

    • @kanatsizkanatli
      @kanatsizkanatli Рік тому

      What idiot would pay 20k for a used fiat?? It's a disposable car embodying tons and tons of carbon, absolutely the dumbest idea humans have brought to manufacture

    • @deansmits006
      @deansmits006 Рік тому

      There's a lot of overpriced cars right now

    • @caffeineisking8132
      @caffeineisking8132 Рік тому

      People with actual money, I work for people who spend 30k+ on a garden shed/ office. Us working class peasants are being outprided off the road slowly but surely

  • @skr525ia
    @skr525ia Рік тому +2

    Thank you for including the "disturbing" Spitfire

  • @mikebull1972
    @mikebull1972 Рік тому +17

    A brilliant, thorough review- Jonny just excels at this. But 40k...for that...hard pass!

  • @herme99
    @herme99 Рік тому +8

    If they made a fake engine note that sounded like the Lexus LFA I’d have one 😂

  • @d.c.Jones70
    @d.c.Jones70 Рік тому +3

    It really doesn’t matter whether the car is good or not it’s too expensive,seriously who is going to use there own money to buy one of these

  • @AH-fg8dk
    @AH-fg8dk Рік тому +2

    For me a Hot Hatch = 205GTI & 860KG of fun.
    Although the Arbarth's Merlin soundtrack is pretty cool 😂

  • @ASCIIDOS
    @ASCIIDOS Рік тому +3

    Abarth; my experience.
    Had a 2010 Abarth 500, I have never owned such an unreliable frustrating car yet one which hosts such an incredible car community.
    I absolutely loved the car, it pulled me through some really rough times. Straight through custom exhaust, interior stripped etc.
    The faults however...
    Door handles x5 in 12 months. Bother driver and passenger.
    Fuel pump x1
    Daytime running bulbs (awkward as toss, needed a cable tie to retrieve old bulbs) x5
    Seized brake caliper x1
    Fuses blown x3
    OG exhaust (backbox) rusted through x2
    The biggest issue... 1st date with the other half. Bolt from the concentric slave cylinder (from factory) came loose, totalled the flywheel, damaged the box and ended up in the starter. 2K bill.
    Viewed one the other day, touched rhe gear knob and it was just loose - came off in my hand.
    Relevance to this video? Like my experience, some great ideas but in practice seems to fall short. Its a no from me.
    That being said, I bought and sold a Fiesta ST with stage 2 Mountune in 6 months. Albeit faster, better, etc it didnt have the character of the Abarth.

    • @bentaylor9021
      @bentaylor9021 Рік тому +1

      It’s nice to hear it as it actually is from a long time road test user 😊

    • @ASCIIDOS
      @ASCIIDOS Рік тому +1

      @@bentaylor9021 Anytime! Thanks for reading, have a good one.

  • @TazTweetin
    @TazTweetin Рік тому +2

    What a drone from the speaker. That would do my head in.

  • @brianallan1036
    @brianallan1036 Рік тому +3

    No beating heart or sole,Never for me.

  • @RichardMajor86
    @RichardMajor86 Рік тому +16

    You say electric cars work, BUT UMMM AKCHULLY I DRIVE 500 MILES EVERY DAY AND HAVE 7 KIDS AND HAVE TO CARRY 3.5 TONNES OF GRAVEL EVERYWHERE - EVs JUST DONT WORK FOR ANYONE!!! Etc

    • @pan6593
      @pan6593 4 місяці тому +1

      He didn‘t put it that way…

    • @Bra_Hundfoder
      @Bra_Hundfoder 3 місяці тому

      I’ve own a Nissan Leaf since 2012 and it works fine for us. We all have different needs nobody is the same and have the same needs. I understand EV doesn’t work for you, but it works for so many else. 😊 Kind regards

    • @RichardMajor86
      @RichardMajor86 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Bra_Hundfoder (it was just a little joke)

    • @jamesisaac9416
      @jamesisaac9416 2 місяці тому

      ​@@RichardMajor86 Don't quit your day job

  • @Auto_Funk
    @Auto_Funk Рік тому +2

    £40k! What is the world coming to? 🥶🥶🥶🥶😩

  • @1985murphy
    @1985murphy Рік тому +4

    38k for that what a joke

  • @TuRo-Maserati
    @TuRo-Maserati 7 місяців тому +1

    BRAND NEW TOURSIMO COUPE NOW £27,500 AT BOTH VOSKERS AND ARNOLD CLARKE - Great value peddle at that price and i bought one. I suspect it will bottom out at £15-16k in 3 yrs so circa £350 to own one per month depn and a nice £300-400 fuel saving per month (net - after home charging cost). Great drive to except the seats.... I'm getting then re-modelled/foamed at a specialist £250 a chair to sit 30-35cm lower and somewhat more 'in' the seat.

  • @mclarenjohnf1
    @mclarenjohnf1 Рік тому +3

    I have never been against small hatchbacks or plain small cars I had a Fiat 126 for about 2 years then changed to a Fiat 127, The Abarth was a GTI hunter not a stupic thing with a piped engine sound it is against everything Abarth stands for.

  • @demonic082
    @demonic082 Рік тому +1

    That noise when you turn it on. Are you sure bill s preston esquire and ted theodore logan weren't sat on the back seat? Wyld Stallyns Rule

  • @drjonze
    @drjonze Рік тому +4

    Spitfire sounds awesome ..At least you don't have to struggle to find somewhere to charge it ..I really don't understand this whole E.V thing .Where is the infastructure ? what about battery life ..currently i drive a 10 year old car .A 10 year old EV will have a battery thats lost most of its capacity

  • @alastairwatson3201
    @alastairwatson3201 Рік тому +1

    I’m still a bit “whatever” with electric cars, especially in Australia where the infrastructure is faecal at best. But Jonny’s T-shirt? Absolutely bang on. (Sorry - it’s probably also an Aussie thing.)

    • @MJHKing1
      @MJHKing1 Рік тому

      Nah, I hear you on the other side of the world

  • @paulratnage2663
    @paulratnage2663 Рік тому +3

    Good video Johnny, to much money at present for the Abarth but it’s nice looking motor. Honda have announced that the will not be making the e anymore. Is it true that other countries have moved their deadline for the sales of ice car to 2035 ie Germany & Italy. Think I even heard that Spain have delayed beyond?

  • @ricco123tube
    @ricco123tube Рік тому +1

    Anti EV experts are so enthusiasticly entertaining with opinions based on their feelings and the headlines from last week's clickbait news articles.
    Love it.

  • @sweetfreedomGB
    @sweetfreedomGB Рік тому +4

    Most blokes would be embarrassed driving it

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  Рік тому +3

      Really? In 2023? I'm more embarrassed driving a massive SUV in 2023 than a Fiat 500e.

    • @sweetfreedomGB
      @sweetfreedomGB Рік тому +2

      @@TheLateBrakeShow Yes, definitely. However, as Stirling used to say 'each to their own old boy, each to their own'. Love the channel by the way.

    • @sweetfreedomGB
      @sweetfreedomGB Рік тому +1

      @@TheLateBrakeShow I would be equally embarrassed in any SUV from companies like Urban, or the latest GWagon, however I think you would have to admit to the charm of an older Range Rover or 88 Landy? Or even an early muscle car...Again, all very subjective, as is the intrigue of motor cars.

  • @mantarayal
    @mantarayal Рік тому +1

    As a motorcyclist, the thought of already bad drivers messing around with their screens, scare the s#$t out of me. Phones are bad enough!! Cool wee car though and fabulous review. A tad pricey. Just a tad.

  • @ivanvisanich
    @ivanvisanich Рік тому +12

    Just watched a video posted by an Italian guy. Had an E500. Bought it for €36k. Due to spiking Electricity bills in Italy he decided to flog it. 7months with 5500kms on the clock. Best deal he got for it was €17,000. Market will be flooded with 2nd hand EV's that no one would want.

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Рік тому +2

      Shhhhhh you mustn't say that.

    • @ObiePaddles
      @ObiePaddles Рік тому

      19,000 euros buys a lot of electricity and ICE cars cost a little bit too.
      Still, a link would be great.

    • @metricstormtrooper
      @metricstormtrooper Рік тому

      Evidence?

  • @sunilnijran1515
    @sunilnijran1515 11 місяців тому +1

    I really loved your review of the Honda e and would love one!! The Mini e doesn't appeal to me that much for some reason.. but this Fiat 500e.. it's just so cute!! I think I would buy the Honda e for myself and get the Fiat for my daughter when she turns 17!!👍🙂

  • @neildaniel8232
    @neildaniel8232 Рік тому +7

    I'd have the Honda E, for a city/short journey second car it's full of character, well built and understated in it's design. The Mini is a little too try-hard (same for the ICE version too actually) and the 500 is just too expensive.

  • @AutojungleCoUk100
    @AutojungleCoUk100 Рік тому +2

    Got a piston 500 and absolutely a shorter journey car, the twitchy steering is not ideal.
    Having said that the shorter trips to the closest town and the cheap running costs make it too good to get sell.
    Once the price drops to closer to bottom feeder market would be great to swap out the piston for this and keep the piston car for longer trips

  • @martinaston1715
    @martinaston1715 Рік тому +5

    £38k 😂😂 no sorry just no

  • @Retirement_Life
    @Retirement_Life Рік тому +2

    Best part of the video is the interruption by the ICE above! What better sound than a merlin?! £38k? You have got to be bloody joking…! 😂😂😂

  • @ennypua
    @ennypua Рік тому +4

    40 grand? Madness.

  • @matthewmason8982
    @matthewmason8982 Рік тому +1

    Surprised you didn’t link the Spitfire interruption to your video of The Beast 😄
    Absolutely love the Abarth 500s. That old school “Bad Boy Bonnet” looks great.

  • @danpestell2011
    @danpestell2011 Рік тому +1

    I like that you get the option to unplug the speaker 🙂

  • @niklaswejedal463
    @niklaswejedal463 Рік тому +3

    Fake engine sounds in EVs falls into the same category as plastic chrome/wood and fake vents and intakes... - and I think I keep my Zoe, thank-you-very-much; the job comute is terrible in a car that is more "sport" (my Renault Modus (!) ) than "comfort" (my Zoe), I have found. Impossible to have any fun in rush-hour traffic or behind people who insist on driving 10 km/h under the speed limit anyway. Better to just sit back and woft along.

  • @bentaylor9021
    @bentaylor9021 Рік тому +1

    Nice review again Jonny. I’ve always liked these and think that once my daughter is old enough she will be in something like this. I certainly won’t be in the queue to buy one for £38k - no matter how nice it is.

  • @Rhowhat
    @Rhowhat Рік тому +30

    Electric cars are a great summary of our entire approach to climate change. They are marginally better for the planet but much better for the local area and allow us to pretend we are doing something while not changing any of the underlying causes of climate change. Also mental pricing for this one in particular, its going to be worth sub 25k in 6-12 months.

    • @davincisghost9228
      @davincisghost9228 Рік тому

      Relying on oil for transportation IS one of the "Underlying causes of climate change".

    • @RedBatteryHead
      @RedBatteryHead Рік тому +3

      Main EV purpose is to move away from petrol and it's industry. Clean up the local environment.
      Don't forget the whole maintenance chain that's being diminished too.

    • @mariosuper1293
      @mariosuper1293 Рік тому +2

      Can you tell me, what are they gonna do with the batteries?

    • @davefitzpatrick4841
      @davefitzpatrick4841 Рік тому +4

      ​@@mariosuper1293the batteries last 15-20 years can then be repurposed for domestic and industrial storage, they are then recyclable with manufacturers are putting recycle centers in place .

    • @0tispunkm3y3r
      @0tispunkm3y3r Рік тому +1

      @@RedBatteryHead This is wishful thinking. Or at least it's going to take a very long time. Even with all the cars turned to EV the demand for oil and gas will still be there. Heavy industry, heavy duty off road, heavy shipping, 3rd world running any old tut on anything that will burn, the absolute minefield of modern day products that require oil or are a direct result of oil production. There's still a fuck ton of oil and gas in the ground. Venezuela, if it hadn't turned into some weird basket case, has more of the stuff than they know what to do with.Cars? tip of the iceberg IMO.

  • @philiprowney
    @philiprowney Рік тому +1

    That weighs as much as my '96 Volvo 850 T5 Wagon!!!

  • @robsawalker
    @robsawalker Рік тому +5

    Great video as usual, Jonny. A new 205 GTi 1.6 was about £6,500 in 1985 which is about £25,500 today, so this Abarth Turismo is not far off 50% more, which is quite a lot. It does look cool, but for me I think if I was looking for a little, short-range BEV I'd want the Honda. The speaker is so weird and very schoolboy, don't see the point. I'd love to have seen Jonny jump out of it and into a 205 GTi after to see how they compare purely as a driving experience.

    • @davidmatthews3093
      @davidmatthews3093 Рік тому +2

      The superior quality and features of a car like a modern 500 is well worth the price increase. It’s not a like for like comparison.

    • @AG9229
      @AG9229 Рік тому +1

      @@davidmatthews3093agreed. The 205 was extremely basic, while the 500 is full of tech and luxury features. It’s not an apples to apples comparison.

  • @Milnoc
    @Milnoc Рік тому +1

    £38,000 is about $65,000 Canadian. That's huge.
    I paid $11,950 Canadian plus tax for my gas powered 2015 Fiat 500 Abarth back in 2020. That's £6,800.
    I would very much like an electric Abarth, but I would need to win the lottery first.

  • @Sabre_Wulf1
    @Sabre_Wulf1 Рік тому +12

    Sticking with mine. 2013 cost 6k 3 years ago, stock, does 116 mph top speed even now. I dont see how the piston version is 'awful'. This is my daily, my weekend car is an 19' f-type svr, so im not bigging up the little abarth as its all i own. I love it! Perky and fun in corners and roundabouts. That new abarth is a 35k starter.

    • @Perthshire
      @Perthshire Рік тому +6

      Jonny is starting to sound like a spokesperson for the EV industry.

    • @robsmall6466
      @robsmall6466 Рік тому +3

      ​@@Perthshire💰..... all the same

    • @davidmatthews3093
      @davidmatthews3093 Рік тому +1

      @@PerthshireHe is using his knowledge and experience to tell it as it is. I’d rather listen to his point of view than to some mate of yours down the pub.

    • @Perthshire
      @Perthshire Рік тому +1

      @@davidmatthews3093 i form my own opinions from experience and observations and research. so off you jolly well trot, there’s a good boy.

  • @dougiemiller5030
    @dougiemiller5030 Місяць тому

    Just came to this video & read so many comments on the price. This is a great looking wee car in my opinion. The sound generator is certainly a gimmick but I would expect some folk will put it on when they're going for a blast along winding roads. Price-wise... Who buys a car with cash nowadays. The folk that can afford to buy a near £40k car with cash probably won't flinch at the price. It's a second car for fun. Most folk that 'buy' this will finance it through pcp or pch. There are thousands of folk that spend £400+ per month on a car.

  • @grrfy
    @grrfy Рік тому +3

    as a former owner of a Abarth until last year,I think it looksa bit frumpy from the front,too plain and fussy at the same time somehow,The standard 500e looks better I think, It is also even more overpriced tha the petrol,which at least made the right noises,which this doesn't.Oh and my 22 year old Honda rattles less than my Abarth did,I do miss it though on occasion

  • @Marthaviews
    @Marthaviews Рік тому +1

    Who doesn't love the sound of a Merlin on a Spitfire!!

  • @ohyesitsme
    @ohyesitsme Рік тому +5

    Who wants to drive on country roads with no gears to change, no exhaust note, just sitting there in silence. As an Abarth Punto Esseesse owner this 500e would be the last car on my list.

  • @reubensmith348
    @reubensmith348 Рік тому

    That speaker would drive me insane! One of the beauties of EV is it's quiet!

  • @joe90h34
    @joe90h34 Рік тому +6

    Almost 40k for a Fiat 500 wtf has the world come to 😂😂 people financing their whole lives has allowed manufacturers to slowly push the overall prices up. All people ask these days is ‘how much a month ‘

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Рік тому

      It's the great plan to drain the 99% dry quicker and quicker. Most are too dumb to see it.

  • @Darascalguy
    @Darascalguy Рік тому +1

    Wish you could translate measurements to USA

  • @stevecox5012
    @stevecox5012 Рік тому +5

    Still watching the video, so you may answer it, but can that synthesized noise be turned off? Would drive you mad! 😬. Ahhh, you can! That's better! 😂

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  Рік тому +7

      Yes, but not an obvious menu. Luckily once deactivated it stays the f#£& off

    • @stevecox5012
      @stevecox5012 Рік тому +3

      @@TheLateBrakeShow 😂 What a relief! As it was clearly too much trouble to make a gear change noise, they should have just left the idea on the shelf. Overall looks and err, sounds, like a pretty good car, but the price of these things is crazy.

  • @justinkuzmanich3865
    @justinkuzmanich3865 Рік тому +2

    MFP Intercepter for the win

  • @campbellvearing5896
    @campbellvearing5896 Рік тому +4

    Yep, I could not drive with that noise. I love the silence of an EV, I don’t mind road noise as it helps ‘feel’ the road and car. That droning would drive me nuts.

  • @Lukeywoodsey
    @Lukeywoodsey Рік тому +1

    To me part of the appeal of driving down a country road is you don't need to go stupidly fast, you can drive a small car and enjoy yourself. A manual makes it much more fun though, revving an engine out

  • @julianfoot8748
    @julianfoot8748 Рік тому

    I have a 10 year old Piston 500... and Its Brilliant! It's "primitive" old school and 100% reliable and fun to thrash. I would have to tun off the stupid noise.

  • @ScenesThroughTravels
    @ScenesThroughTravels Рік тому +3

    Cool Car but personally i think that fake noise would irritate me after a while Jonny. Enjoyed your content as always ! 💯💯👍👍😁😁

  • @alexshepherd
    @alexshepherd 4 місяці тому

    Great review - and a LOT of comments to read
    Can I please just ask the one question that no Abarth 500e review seems to tackle, which is - how does it compare to the FIAT 500e?
    Is there as much of a difference as there was between the petrol FIAT 500 and petrol Abarth 500?
    I suggest probably there isn’t, because FIAT 500e and Abarth 500e both have this larger platform, heavier, and the power difference between them doesn’t seem much?
    No-one seems to have driven a FIAT 500e along those B-roads in that way :) so it’s hard to get a good measure of what the difference is
    Thanks

  • @juliandclarke
    @juliandclarke Рік тому +2

    Good review. Thanks. Looks excellent, but will stick with my Honda e I’ve had for 3years

  • @RobertDodge
    @RobertDodge Рік тому +3

    MG4 X Power x (Yes I know not a small car but 0-60 in 3.8 seconds for a similar price.

    • @1frojoe
      @1frojoe Рік тому

      Even the MG4 Extended range is quicker 0-60 than the Fiat

  • @jackworboys6323
    @jackworboys6323 Рік тому

    If that speaker was on a ‘sports exhaust’ button so you could turn it off it would be a fun value-add rather than annoyance. And I feel for anyone keeping the white diffusers clean…

  • @politirel2
    @politirel2 Рік тому +12

    £35,000 for this thing, mad as a box of frogs, those batteries will have to be replaced in a few years, and that will cost maybe £8,000. It might burst into flames too, fingers crossed not while you are driving it.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  Рік тому +11

      We are not defending the cost, but your comment on batts needing replacement simply aren't true. They will last as long as you have the car - or as long as an engine has been designed to last. The difference is that the EV has fewer moving parts, and is cheaper to service and work on.

    • @rogerfinch7651
      @rogerfinch7651 Рік тому +3

      3 1/2 years into my EV and no fire and still same range. Loving it. Suggest you try one, and stop reading the daily fail misinformation 🤣

    • @jasonspegel2116
      @jasonspegel2116 Рік тому +7

      @@TheLateBrakeShowI just watched Ratarossa a fellow car youtuber buy a 2013 model S and the battery needed replacing. Tesla quoted him 17,000 pounds to replace it. 10 years is the life of a car now? Electric motors are amazing but battery tech is still junk. Maybe solid state changes things

    • @herme99
      @herme99 Рік тому +3

      @@jasonspegel2116To be fair that Tesla had done literal moon mileage.

    • @darrenwallis7630
      @darrenwallis7630 Рік тому

      Keep getting brainwashed by your oil & gas overlords… what a moron…

  • @DarkDeath-yg7nv
    @DarkDeath-yg7nv Рік тому

    the spitfire is that from the israeli air force, a black one no57, flown by ezer weitzmann in 1948 and is usually on show at the iaf museum
    a magnificent beast that has saved many a nation over its illustrious career

  • @paulhemming159
    @paulhemming159 Рік тому +3

    As always great video Jonny. The sound generator is like 5 mins of smiles and then a world of frustration & embarrassment. This car is far too expensive to be viable for most. The thing that gets me is electricity is needed to charge these vehicles, is that really really clean electricity that causes less damage to the environment than fossil fuels? Isn't the way forward to focus all the money thats being poured into EV into synthetic fuels which could be used in the millions of ICE vehicles already in circulation? There isn't the infrastructure by means of charging stations not by an extremely long way. Personally I'd rather drive a Citron 2cv than a Tesla which is basically a vibrator with wheels!! No soul or passion with EV... quick YES equal or equivalent to ICE... never... The only place EV makes sense is small city cars for use in cities... yet how does someone living in a flat or a terraced house charge the vehicle over night? Makes no sense in sooo many ways....

  • @jackytwix
    @jackytwix Рік тому +1

    Random question but where did you get your MFP T-Shirt Johnny?

    • @aaronslack1
      @aaronslack1 Рік тому

      Thinking the same myself, brilliant, takes me back.

  • @andyspinks9996
    @andyspinks9996 Рік тому +6

    Give me a shout back in like ten+ years when there are some decent electric vehicles and more useable charge points. Until that point I will stick to my boring 5.0L V8 supercharged XKR. 😅

  • @40spinup
    @40spinup Рік тому +1

    Wasn’t that the same roads as the Alpine lunch stop with Mr Sniff? I will forever want a Hyundai Ioniq 5 N or standard 5 but i thing just on aseptics it be the Honda. It reminds me a lot of the original Mini, got character! I’d be more interested to know what you think of the Hyundai N Vision 74? I love that thing! Manufacturers need to start paying attention to Hyundai and their bold designs as I think they are doing something special right now. Cheers Johnny, brilliant as always 👍

  • @peterward3965
    @peterward3965 Рік тому +3

    Who on earth would pay 35k for a small souped up hairdressers car.

  • @alanssnackbardailyrelaxati8155

    Beautiful music in the intro Johnny. I loved the 595 Yamaha racing edition abarth I had before I was poor again..

  • @RichardMajor86
    @RichardMajor86 Рік тому +2

    That loud speaker would be getting unplugged on the first day!

    • @Frank-pc2rs
      @Frank-pc2rs 5 місяців тому

      You can turn it off, he never mentions it in this video. Some reviewer.

  • @FormulaWhine
    @FormulaWhine Рік тому +1

    In this category right now I think I'd wait until Renault release the 5. If it was between the Abarth 500e, Mini or Honda E today, I think I'd pick the Abarth and remove the speaker permanently. It's the coolest looking of the three, but all of them are hampered by range. Today, you should be looking at a real world 200 miles as standard.

  • @dominicrusho
    @dominicrusho Рік тому +1

    It’ll depreciate faster than a washing machine off a cliff

  • @hjorth72
    @hjorth72 Рік тому

    Just love that car. I have the normal Fiat 500e. Have done 55.000 km (over the last 2½ years) I hope to make a swap to the Abarth soon.

  • @harrybartlett4020
    @harrybartlett4020 Рік тому +1

    Love the look of the car, problem is way too pricey.

  • @paulmaynard408
    @paulmaynard408 Рік тому +1

    A bonus with electric cars is that the weight distribution won’t change while driving.

  • @Hope-ko7hv
    @Hope-ko7hv Рік тому +1

    Why aren't car manufacturers focusing on hybrids? Petrol/diesel + electric motor. Best of both worlds. Everyone is happy 😅

  • @dee_em_bee
    @dee_em_bee Рік тому +1

    Great video, found it really interesting. Not sure about the white bits but have always really liked the shape of these. Price wise as lots of people have said, its a bit on the high side. As someone who only ventured into EVs this year, we got a second hand i3 (not S) and I think that was the right route. Shame BMW discontinued the i3 and i3s as its a fantastic little car and feels more than rapid enough (we looked at the S but found a mint standard at a very reasonable price!).

    • @eduardwalhout1740
      @eduardwalhout1740 Рік тому

      I agree, i have an i3S and its a lot more car for a lot less money.

  • @russellcopp6968
    @russellcopp6968 Рік тому +1

    After driving a couple of electric cars, I don't understand why regen breaking is taken away in sport mode. To me, a bit of regen works like engine braking. No regen feels like a basic auto drifting into corners and I hate the lack of feel and throttle control that comes with that. Just my personal opinion 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @AviatingWithMel
    @AviatingWithMel Рік тому +1

    Great review as always, full of information and details. I think its a great looking little thing, and after having an EV for 8 months and knowing what range I need I could probably live with one of these, I might need to borrow something else for an ikea trip though. I would have to drive like an angel on the longer trips to avoid several charging stops, the lurid green colour does pique my interest.
    I too have a disdain for the lack of buttons in modern cars, I understand why the do it but some functions are better left with a button to press to enable/disable rather than having to go through multiple menus...especially if it is something that resets at the start of every drive like the LKA on my MG4.

  • @notesfromafar
    @notesfromafar Рік тому +2

    That noise is ridiculous...

  • @kevdavies3445
    @kevdavies3445 Рік тому +1

    caught this being tested on the brecon beacons in acid green the testers were quite complimentary about it tht price tag though

  • @eng9040
    @eng9040 Рік тому

    Black tyres are good they sorted my problem out with those a8888s lying fitters at Halfords.