Why was this Roman Road So Dangerous? Route 45b!
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Thanks for joining us this week as we travel along the UK's most dangerous Roman Road. But why was this route so dangerous, why was it built so early in the Roman Empire? Our love our historical routes continues!
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lol not for me too fussy there are tomany unknowns! ps your videos are getting like ITV. no click hear.
@@don1estelle which also costs you nothing to watch. Tis all good Don
@@pwhitewick Don.... is just a sudename it was a nickname so I used it for my channel name! one of my bosses kept asking me to sing because of my stature, one sound like one + Don just for laughs 😂
I’m stuck on your claims that you walked down to the supermarket every day and bought stuff you didn’t need, and the fact that I still have no idea why you believe that Roman road was dangerous... ???
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@@G58 click bate the road wasn't Dangerous it was the Arcological dig that was Dangerous!
the way the cows are reacting it’s like they’re saying “why are those humans standing in our field and talking?” “don’t know, let’s ask”
“hey, is that a camera?” “let’s get on the internet!”
More like, "Do those humans have treats?"
@@SteamCrane Apples? bread? Mmmmmooo apples?
I love Roman Roads. I have been investigating the missing part of this road, which you showed, and i believe I have located the stretch from Kingston Deverill to just past Maiden Bradley. I'm going to need to buy or lease some radar equipment if I am to find the rest of the road, which I'm hopping to do in the next couple of years.
I live near Alderley Edge in Cheshire, an ancient copper and lead mining area, also known to the Romans, and owned now by the National Trust. Just to the south of the main mine area is a patch of barren land, "The Hagg", in an area of woodland where nothing has grown not even grass or moss for the last hundred years, following its use as an area of copper ore purification ie removing the arsenic which even now contaminates the ground.
In the roman times Cheddar was two very small villages (and still is a village). There is a road in Cheddar called Tweentown that joined the two villages (don't know why "town" was used). Axbridge which is a town (by royal charter) next door was more important to the Romans and there is archaeological evidence to support this.
Although sea levels were higher in the roman times, Cheddar was definitely not the Sea Front. The somerset levels were prone to flooding (and still are) and its careful management of the water ways, then and now meant that the area was relatively dry as there is a Saxon Palace and medieval Chapel and evidence of a roman villa. Oh and open cast cheese mines 😂
Were there separate mines for mild and mature?
Ton would be mean settlement , so between settlements
THE most amazing thing about Cheddar is the caves where they found the oldest complete skeleton in Britain at 10,000 yrs old... But, thats not the amazing part. They DNA sequenced the bones and found a living relative of him living in the same place, cheddar!! 10,000yrs apart! If dont believe me there are interviews asking what the guy thinks of being related to the 10,000yr old cheddar man while living in cheddar!
@@highpath4776 The word Avon is the Saxon term for River. So the River Avon that passes through Stratford-upon-Avon and Bristol (despite being two different rivers) literally translates as River river!
@@CrazyInWeston Afon for the Welsh version. (where does the Wye come from ?) often call it the Avon, rather than River Avon ( but I suppose I say Thames rather than River Thames too )
The historian Bettany Hughes found the landing site of the Romans in Kent and it was miles inland because the sea level was considerably higher 2000 years ago
Global warming raised sea levels when Antarctica melted down to bedrock no doubt.......
I think the land was lower, rather than the sea being higher. Northern Europe is still rising now that the weight of the ice is gone. In some places it's pretty dramatic.
@@ashscott6068 Harlech Castle was built and resupplied from the sea. Today it is nowhere near the sea. So the UK is sloping.?
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Arsenic and basking adders ...this video is full of danger ! great video both !
don’t forget curious cows! those dan be deadly if they don’t get the attention they demand 🤣
Hi guys, the road does go west to the port of Uphill, lots of evidence and really great site at Christon found as a result of the new power route from Hinckley. The lead track/Roman Road over Bleadon Hill is well known. Great stuff though.
Thank you Mark .
Explore the section from Charterhouse to Uphill a lot, it’s a great puzzle section. Thanks, great video again guys.
This Roman Road stuff is amazing. Something I literally never thought to look into until you guys started posting videos about it!
Its a bit of a rabbit hole once you get started!
Didn't expect you here Paul 🤣 love your videos btw
I love that the videos I like watching are also watched by other UA-camrs I like :)
The receiving ports for the ingots or other British produce were mainly in What is now NE France. The prevailing wind in UK is from SW. Sailing ships out of the inner Bristol Channel would need to beat against it along N Devon and Cornish coasts and round Lands End before traversing the entire length of the English Channel. Alternatively, they’d have for a suitable easterly and hope it would last until Lands End before fortuitously changing. Also the sea distance is c.500 miles as opposed to c.21 by the Straits crossing. No doubt they did cost/benefit analyses of both routes. Conversion of most of the ingots was probably domestic for the use of the invading force.
There is an article on the BBC web page about a forgotten Roman road now definitely found in Wales that led to a silver mine. Silver of course is valuable but the Romans also used silver and lead to form pewter for cups, bowls and plates. The Romans also used lead to make pipes and line their aqueducts and were smart enough to know not to drink the water until lime scale had formed inside. It's amazing how little we actually know about life under the Romans, in fact if it wasn't for Paul and Rebecca, we wouldn't know anything at all!
There's no lead in pewter (which was frequently used for drinking vessels). Pewter is mostly tin, alloyed with antimony and a bit of copper, and sometimes silver, (I guess sometimes the silver is just a contaminant in the lead!)
@@jonathanrichards593 I think there were different types of pewter? I believe the lead-free version was a later invention
@@jonathanrichards593 I know how pewter is made and one of the things you have to be careful with is making sure there is no lead in the silver. The Romans were quite good at smelting but testing of Roman pewter shows a strong lead content which either means they weren't really good at smelting or they added lead to lower the melting point thus making the tin and silver flow better. We'll never know exactly what they were thinking and why, but as of now, we can only go by the evidence. BTW_ I have here in my home pewter beer mugs that had a certificate of being 100% silver and tin with no lead.
@@bullettube9863 Tin is pretty toxic on its own, it why it was a popular alternative to copper for anti-fouling paint on ships, but tin paint has now been retricted.
Five kids?
Me and my wife have three, and we're all but floored. On top of that, my missus never get into the spirit of Herrena the Henna-Haired Harridan.
I reserve my right to come up with a clever quip after a few months of consideration.
only 5 kids lol I have 7 and my wife has 4 and don't ask how many grand kids
A trick I use to see features on the ground is to lie face down and do slow push ups,while looking ahead at the area you are interested in. It's surprising how much you can see on a seemingly flat field. Interesting vid,thanks.
I envy you as a couple. You've found an interest that you both clearly enjoy. I wish my wife and myself had been so lucky before we destroyed our relationship.
I’m sorry you are feeling this way but you’re a top drawer kinda fellow I sense , sometimes when a door closes, a window opens😗
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Another really great video. Full of interest and facts. I look forward to Sunday evening's thanks to you.
Thanks for the video. The road crossed the Fosse just north of Shepton Mallet, so ease of distribution within the country would have been good.. I would drive from Blagdon and then along straight roads on the Mendips. There are several long straight roads across the Mendips, which often made me wonder about them. Lead and silver pre-dates the roman period so the romans would have known about it. It is most likely that Lead would have been taken to Rackley on the south side of the Mendips which was a river port on. the Axe, close to the workings. If lead ingots were taken the other way along the to Salisbury, then it could have been due to the treacherous rocks around Landsend where many ships have been lost over the years. An interesting subject. Thanks again.
Thanks for the input Don. Fascinating stuff which I know very little about.
Claim to fame. I knew through my previous job, Dr Roger Walker, who provided the Geophys equipment to Time Team, and even went on some of the digs, especially the Big Dig ones! Never actually saw him on screen though!
unfortunately there’s a lot of folks like him who were part of the team who weren’t on camera, hopefully he at least got an onscreen credit from helping
Well done you two ! Thank you for taking me along with you today and Cheers from California !
There's actually good reason to think the Roman road continued beyond Charterhouse. There's a Roman camp in Banwell Woods (not to be confused with Banwell Camp, which is Iron Age!) and a substantial (industrial?) settlement just west of there at Winthill that was found when a water pipe was being put in. And there's that temple on Brean Down that seems curiously nowhere near any known settlement and which the excavation report suggests was accessed by boat (from where?). What this points towards is Roman use of the natural harbour of Uphill Pill (see David Higgins, The History of the Bristol Region in the Roman Period, pp.7ff). If only TIme Team had gone down to Uphill after they had to leave Charterhouse.
I'd also suggest that anyone interested reads John Matthews' article in issue 49 of Camertonia - his geophysical results on locating the continuation of this route between Charterhouse and Banwell are truly stunning.
Fantastically well produced video, love Paul's passion for his subject! Just draws you in so much.
Bypassing taking the lead by sea round Lands End..and undercutting the Phonecian traders who called at Cheddar.
We visited Charterhouse a while back . It's an amazing landscape full of reptiles.
What a funny coincidence, I saw your patrons slides and saw my name. I'm not a patron but it's nice to see my namesake help out. :)
A very intersting video, also I loved how the names were given to the bugs lol.
Great Video guys as always very entertaining. You got me laughing wirh the cows in the field. Your Nr1 Fans in Hamburg Germany.
Very interesting. Most enjoyable. Great filming and footage. Loved the cows and insects. Thank you both for all your research.
We tried Hell Fresh for a few months having three of their meals per week . The supplied ingredients were always top notch and you would usually only need to have a bit of oil , salt and pepper and maybe a bit of butter , normal things you have stored at home to complete the meal . The instructions were very good and could be stored in a file for future reference . The best thing was trying new recipes , which we might never have tried , but we found the cost was a little high to be honest . As you say though , you do not need to go shopping so much . Great , but a little costly .
Great to see Rebecca featured. And also fantastic to get sponsorship. Congrats.
Thank you Hans.
Was wondering if the cows were the dangerous bit and luckily it wasn't so 😉
The vlog is again interresting and shows how much can be told about even roman roads.
Another great video. Thank you.
Thanks for the great videos & content Paul & Rebecca, .. Do you sometimes remember to pack gardening tools to trim back the prickly bush, .. when you go on your rambles in the middle of summer?
Thanks for another great video.
Awesome video. Great one
Transport of lead. Also, the Cornish coast was potentially enemy territory at the time. C.200 miles of the voyage would have been along it. Exeter might have been practical as a port of embarkation but the Roman fort wasn’t established there until around 55ce. There was a need within the province for lead, principally for plumbing in the new forts and the towns being then projected as emblems of ‘civilisation.’ Very little was probably exported.
Love it, lived at Charterhouse and was village policeman in the 80's at Blagdon on Mendip. Love the film, so informative,
Thanks guys, another interesting video as always from an engaging duo.
thank you guys for another fantastic vlog the places you find are very interesting great job
Another great and interesting video, thanks Paul and Rebecca. 👍😎
Great video as always, but sea level was NOT 10 to 20 metres higher in the first century.
The Roman bath in Bath is lined with 2000 year old Mendip Lead.
Also, from a book about "The lost islands of Somerset" the coastal marshes of the Somerset levels started to be reclaimed (sea walls and ditches) in the 1st and 2nd centuries, but the coastal defences failed in the 4th century due to sea level rise (of a few feet at most) and break down of social organisation - people too busy fighting wars to repair them.
Thank you Richard.
hello again Paul and Rebecca , great video and drone shots , i remember the time team dig , this one was very interesting , well done and thank you both :)
Great video.very interesting
brilliant video
An excellent video, as always- I think you guys are getting me into Roman roads! (My wife will be pleased! 😆)
Love the change of attire part way through.
Good information n the Roman road.
Brilliant Video, really interested in this mini explore of route 45b and loved Cheddar Gorge towards the end.
Excellent well done 👏
Absolutely magnificent work, thank you for bringing us this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated by the people.
What a fantastic video guys. Just can’t get too much history. You have so much more than we do.. thanks for taking me along. Please stay safe and take care
Fascinating - thanks!!!
Fascinating. Thank you for s great vid.
Glad you enjoyed it
Paul Rebecca 😊 marvellous 👍 Sunday blog 😀 👌 nice see longer blog 😀
A great video today. Really enjoyable! Cheers mates! 🇬🇧🙂👍🇺🇸
I'm probably the only one who kept hearing The Beatles song " Lead it be" in my head ! - Right,now where's my medication ?
Enjoyed that
Interesting video, and a brave one to do given the amount of stinging undergrowth there is about!
So many Roman road mysteries for you, and you've only just scratched around your home turf really! I think if EDS is ambitious, Every Roman Road Mystery would be impossible
Great vid, and I loved the bonus abandoned station. Quality! Thanks both.
Thank you too!
Thank you, enjoyed that. Nice wee pic of, I think, Masbury Station of the Somerset & Dorset Railway at 6:20. ( Now a private residence ). When you were at Charterhouse, where you looked like you were parked, you can walk for about a mile or so, down through several 'terraces; of ore settling beds, I think their called. Loads of lead slag lying around..,and you emerge at the main road that comes up through the Cheddar Gorge.
Thanks again for the video..., that area is quite local for me, but had never occurred to me that a Roman road ran there.
Fascinating video thanks so much,great presentation
You would have passed the hamlet of Green Ore as you crossed the Bristol Road towards Priddy. Green Ore being Galena, the lead ore the Romans were mining. All that land is owned by a certain Jacob Rees Mogg.
The by product of the smelting you mentioned included Cadmium and when I was a lad there was a huge scandal about the amount of this toxic metal found in the soil at Shipham (the next Gorge along from Cheddar). It came from later post Roman workings underground though, the "Singing River" caverns being a favourite place for us to go caving.
Love your videos.
Great video...one of my favourite places down there is ebbor gorge .. in summer it's fantastic..it's not for from the standing stones.
I learnt a new word today "shizzle"! hehe. Great Video. you two make this Roman stuff really fascinating.
Love that word. Over used in our house!
Nice one. I had read about Cheddar being under water back then so that ties in perfectly.
I think it as a find line, but at 5m above sea level you can see why
fantastic
Yayyy! More Roman stuff ❤
Very interesting 👍🏻
Amazing.
Another excellent video quite the fascinating story. The TT reference produces a 'Oh-Arrr' moment which required a beer. and you finished with a Cheddar reference which meant cheese. Cracking story gang.
Thanks for that, nice video. I went to Cheddar Gorge as a child, but forgotten just how dramatic it is.
Likewise, when we drove down it, in my head it was half that distance!
Good video
thank you.
If the sea level was 10 to 20 meters higher in Roman times, there would not be a Netherlands. Even better, the IJsselmeer was marshland instead of sea/lake at the time. So, I think the sea level must have been lower at Roman times.
Check out the 10m raised beaches in Scotland, the theory is it was melting ice caps allowed a release of isostatic load, the land actually rising (Tectonic plates float on magma) that's the theory I think, don't take it 100% from me, I'm committing it from memory.
Sea levels were definitely much higher, something that is hardly mentioned by climate change activits. Dunkirk in France did not exist. It was way under water, and ports were much further inland.
Netherlands was mostly marshland.
I would love to try Hello Fresh. Heard so many good things about them. Hoping they will add a Diabetic section at some point. In the meantime, I'm still enjoying the low-carb discoveries of Paul and Rebecca.
Glad to see a modern Samson n Goliath Taking on a time team dig ;-))
I love your videos about transport history in my home country, I know many of your locations in the South.
You are doing what the BBC was originally set up to do:
Inform,
Educate,
Entertain
With people like you around we need the BBC less and less.
At least you don't need a license to watch them. (I'm Canadian and surprised that they still do that there, considering all options now.)
@@djhrecordhound4391 It is worse than that.
We are compelled to buy a TV licence in UK to watch ANY provider, even if we don't watch BBC. There are Draconian penalties for non-compliance.
The licence funding model for the BBC is under serious scrutiny by Government and it's end may be in sight.
The thing is, BBC is a national institution loved by many and part of our cultural identity so the whole thing is highly contentious.
Finally, many countries do not permit state owned broadcasters lest Governments try to interfere in their independence. Germany and it's history is a prime example.
@@philiptownsend4026 The BBC was deliberately set up, 100 years ago, to be independant of government influence, and free to criticise when necessary. But that independance is now much threatened by the current rightwing government... exactly what you warn us about!
One of the ploys engaged in by the rightwing press is to FIRST generate resentment about the licence fee, which destructive propaganda has been going on for a good while now.. this in order to promote "abolishing" the fee as a benefit, instead of a f*cking disaster.
"Oh, and while we are at it, let's flog off Channel 4. There's too much independant thought going on there, by far!"
Please Note: The twit Nadine Dorries didn't even know that Channel 4 doesn't GET any government funding from taxes!
@@effyleven As I said in my reply to comment, there are views contrary to current climate ref BBC. Read carefully and you will see that I didn't take sides. Your views are one of the many when I said it is a contentious issue. Your response was quite aggressive and it clearly came from the left. We now need a contrary view from the right to balance your view. It will not come from me as I hold no strong views about BBC, I was merely telling the chap who raised the subject that it is a complex and divisive issue and you kindly illustrated that for me. Thank you.
@@philiptownsend4026 The tone of your reply contends that the correct "way forward" politically, lies at some point roughly mid-way between right and left.
This is The Big Mistake!
When the right has moved so FAR right that it has disappeared over the horizon... everyone else, with a view that's only slightly right-of-centre...
... (which is probably about where I am)...
... looks to them like an extreme leftie!
That's the problem.
You want balance in political discussion? Fine! Let's make a start by pulling the wall-eyed right-wing loonies back towards the centre of British politics.
Note: I've given up on the States. It may be generations before American politics get themselves sorted out.. there could be another civil war before that happens.
i love the colour of your hair Rebecca
Hi thanks for another enjoyable video. Did I see a picture of Masbury railway station on the S&D railway as an image on the video?
Looking forward to next week's installment.
You most certainly did!
We used to go to Charter House for school trips and dig up old ingots, mind you that was 50 + plus years ago
Enjoyed this. I see from the old OS maps that the top of Cheddar Gorge is called Velvet Bottom, which is nice. The same maps show the Roman road continuing west through Shipham and Banwell, albeit the supposed route isn't very straight.
Maybe that road isn't straight because it wasn't their Romaine route to shred through...? I may not know a crouton of things, but for me it's Parmesan for the course.
(Sorry to have given you such a word salad. I know it can be very grating. 😆😂🤣)
Shipham lane to Banwell is easy to follow I believe it split into 2 at that point probably around the castle, one along Winthill with the other road heading through Banwell onto Wick. Maybe also linked in some way to the Roman port of Rackley and all the Villa sites which probably sustained Charterhouse with grain etc. fantastically rich historical area.
Fantastic..great research by you guys..keep walking...do you get any foot problems ?
@6:18 I see an anonymous disused station. Or have I not been paying attention, and this one has already been ticked off?
possibly featured in an upcoming episode if not already featured
Thanks for another excellent, informative video. Your relaxed style talking to camera make these wonderfully watchable.
5 kids!
Love Roman stuff
In Roman times sea levels in the south of England might have been 20 centimetres higher - certainly not 20 metres
The hills always seem higher after a hard day's walking! ;-)
Well actually as a local, I believe it. The folklore here is that the Somerset levels used to be flooded twice a day. If sea levels were higher in them days then it was certainly possible as the levels are so flat, even being 10 metres would have done the job. You have also gotta consider the Moon. Moons gravity affects the tides, well the Moon has been leaving Eearth at a rate of 4cm per year, now imagine that effect over 2000yrs, small maybe or huge? How does the Moon affect the Earths tides so much? Because what you gotta remember is that Gravity is both the strongest and weakest force in nature at the same time! Think... Earth is bound by the Sun okay so why dont we all gravitate to the sun? Pluto the furthest planet is bound by the Sun.... So many billions of miles away yet us here on Earth are unaffected. Gravity is strongest and Weakest force in nature. How 2000yrs of slowly diminishing force of the Moons Gravity against the Earths oceans we wont know.
Cheddar gorge was formed by glacial waters 1.2million years ago but it certainly wasn’t “under water” 2000 years ago.
There certainly is evidence of prehistoric and Roman use of the caves which then silted up preserving the archaeological evidence but this silt was carried by the regular flooding of the caves through rainfall.
Yep. This.
What a great video! I'm always curious about Grims's ditch and wondering if anyone has gone over it with a metal detector.
Likewise, it seems to go on forever.
Hints of Toyah and Robert, keep it up
Another intriguing tale! Shouldn't that route route be XLVB?
I just love Rebecca's latest hair colour.
Love Rebecca's red hair!
Ooops! 10:27
I don't think they were IRON ingots that were sent along the road!!
(Slip of the tongue. Never mind; happens to everybody at times.)
Interesting that you drove down Cheddar Gorge in the rain. That's my lasting memory of the gorge, but through the split windscreen of a Morris Minor. It rained all day, every day, on that "touring holiday" in 1953.
I can still remember the patch of unswept windscreen as the wiper rubbers gradually wore out. I was only seven, but I recognised the patch of wet screen being the same shape as Australia, with a bit like Tasmania underneath!
Err... thanks for reading.
And thanks for the videos.
completely our pleasure... for reading.
If they were sending to a port (the nearest known if I'm correct is Sea Mills at Bristol) that doesn't stack up with the ingots you mentioned and their location.
I personally see no issue with a "there and back again" route. Especially considering the effort put into building it. Let's not forget the interactions and relations with the local tribes. Agreements etc.
Finally - much of what you see in charterhouse today in terms of workings relates to medieval but mostly near modern ie Victorian.
Ah and Ps did you know there's an earthen amphitheatre remain just above the failed time team dig at town field?
I’m just here for the ‘doobalee-doo’!
Doooobleedoooooo
Iv'e heard tell the River Brue goes under the Fosse Way at Lydford and boats went on down to the Bristol Channel! Joseph of Arimathea is said to have sailed up to Glastonbury!
That would be Lydford-on-Fosse, right? :) The A37 there is, as the name suggests, along the route of the Fosse Way.
Interesting 🤔
I was waiting for the story of the Mendip Slasher or The Beast of Mendip!
Tells us Grims ditch disappears by going there, then shows a lidar image which shows that you probably knew that already? :D
Happen y'oughta check the olde Roman encampment across from Ashover, Derbyshire, and their olde lead mines down the way at Milltown. Mainly flattened out by the late idiots at Clay X Co., you used to be able to walk across em, peer down into them. Loadsa roman roads all around.
Another great video, thank you guys! Rebecca, can I ask a question about your hair colour? I went red when I retired last year but I found that even after a couple of weeks, it still leaked I do karate so having red streaks running down my suit wasnt a good look. Ive switched to a permenant purple one, which is good but I really want red. What kind do you use please?
From anytime up to 3-400 years ago, could there be texts/documents from similar
explorers investigating this same route?
I assume there must be a mine of information covering other Roman sites...''go-to''
books similar to Bradley's Railway Timetables/Routes as an example - from yesteryear.
Shiny bottom’s day 🤩