Chaos as MPs turn on Speaker over last minute change to Gaza ceasefire vote

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  • Speaker Lindsay Hoyle granted two amendments to the SNP's vote to call for a ceasefire in Gaza, which set the House alight.
    It is customary in opposition day debates that the government can make amendments to votes, but it is unheard of for a second opposition party (Labour) to further make amendments.
    What was normal was Lindsay Hoyle granted the Conservatives amendment to change wording to call for an "immediate humanitarian pause". The House erupted after he also granted Labour's amendment to call for an "immediate humanitarian ceasefire" after Hamas releases Israeli hostages, which he granted after claiming the precedence is "an outdated approach".
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  • @redscouse8568
    @redscouse8568 7 місяців тому +685

    The whole place is an embarrassment.

    • @andrewdavies8954
      @andrewdavies8954 7 місяців тому +8

      the Speaker certainly is

    • @luminousfractal420
      @luminousfractal420 7 місяців тому

      its abhorent. a bunch of psychopathic schoolkids playing theatre. all very hunger games. which youd expect from a eugenicist system.

    • @James-bc1jk
      @James-bc1jk 7 місяців тому +14

      It's all fake you don't have a choice you are just a small piece in a big game and you don't control nothing

    • @-mattm
      @-mattm 7 місяців тому +2

      You need to watch the us congress in session (That's a complete circus)

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому +8

      It's fascinating! Such a move hasn't been seen for 2 decades. Are you watching closely? The curtain has been pulled back to inadvertently show how much control the Israel Lobby has on British politics.

  • @MrGrantSloan
    @MrGrantSloan 7 місяців тому +276

    A disgusting example of how politics, is run in the UK.

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому +9

      You've missed the point. Such a move hasn't been seen for 2 decades. Are you watching closely? The curtain has been pulled back to inadvertently show how much control the Israel Lobby has on British politics.

    • @bruce4130
      @bruce4130 7 місяців тому

      😂

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому

      Starmer has admitted speaking with Israeli President Isaac Herzog before lobbying the Speaker of the House who is the son of a founder of Labour Friends of Israel. It's as clear as day. 'British', my arse SMH

  • @imranb4985
    @imranb4985 7 місяців тому +548

    It’s amazing how someone can lose their honour, dignity and respect in less than 5 mins! The system is an absolute JOKE!

    • @michaelcoward1902
      @michaelcoward1902 7 місяців тому +39

      5 minutes? Hoyle has been proving himself to be a third rate clown since 2019.

    • @julielunn7916
      @julielunn7916 7 місяців тому +6

      Well said !

    • @starmersbarber
      @starmersbarber 7 місяців тому +16

      I haven't seen anything with Hoyle worth respecting for quite some time. He has been a huge part of the problem in there. A pathetic individual.

    • @abapaper7416
      @abapaper7416 7 місяців тому +13

      He never had any the mask just came off he’s weak and always has been

    • @elizabethbeattie6488
      @elizabethbeattie6488 7 місяців тому +6

      Johnson ran rings round him from day one

  • @Red-px1fr
    @Red-px1fr 7 місяців тому +52

    They're preparing to vote on a situation where tens of thousands of people have been killed and they behave like they're in a schoolyard. Appalling people. Imagine having so little respect.

    • @AJCavalier
      @AJCavalier 7 місяців тому

      The country’s gone to shit. Why do they squabble over something abroad when we have problems of our own here. Gaza is non of the UKs business; both Israel and Hamas are in the wrong, if they themselves cared so much about ‘peace’ and stopping the violence, they would- they would just stop fighting.

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому

      Don't forget the insidious nature of who is really pulling the strings here. Starmer has admitted speaking with Israeli President Isaac Herzog before lobbying the Speaker of the House who is the son of a founder of Labour Friends of Israel. It's as clear as day. Disgraceful.

    • @legshakermaker1968
      @legshakermaker1968 7 місяців тому

      I couldn't agree more. All the outrage from our parliamentarians had nothing to do with the people dying every day in this horrendous conflict. They were angry because the were frustrated in their attempts to score cheap political points by exploiting the misery of thousands of people.

  • @lesterdsouza7662
    @lesterdsouza7662 7 місяців тому +428

    There's only one thing outdated here!

    • @DhariaLurie
      @DhariaLurie 7 місяців тому +3

      ...The Creator has opened wide heaven’s gate on the eve of the great disaster
      "Singing Aloud for You
      I sing aloud for you
      So you will not be lost amid danger
      I awaken your memory from long ago
      So you will see hope for life
      Heaven, Earth, and Gods are made by the Creator
      Who commanded Gods to make humans on earth
      When lives dropped down, they became human
      Eliminating sin, they’ll return to heaven
      What I am singing is the truth
      The Creator has opened wide heaven’s gate on the eve of the great disaster
      October 15, 2014"
      Master Li Hongzhi (Hong Yin IV, from Falun Dafa teachings)

    • @HarryNicholl-z4n
      @HarryNicholl-z4n 7 місяців тому

      Bercrow was an idiot this is a buffoon unbelievable eejit a load of crap bring back Marshall law rid these clowns

    • @zadebasil3033
      @zadebasil3033 7 місяців тому +20

      Yes, the entirety of Parliament.

    • @GreatHealer.
      @GreatHealer. 7 місяців тому

      Amen!

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому +7

      You've missed the point. Such a move hasn't been seen for 2 decades. Are you watching closely? The curtain has been pulled back to inadvertently show how much control the Israel Lobby has on British politics.

  • @chrissmith7655
    @chrissmith7655 7 місяців тому +55

    What way to run a country, absolute disgrace.

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому

      You've missed the point. Such a move hasn't been seen for 2 decades. Are you watching closely? The curtain has been pulled back to inadvertently show how much control the Israel Lobby has on British politics.

    • @DrMontague
      @DrMontague 7 місяців тому

      none of these r soles has the welfare of the working class at heart, they are their to line their own pockets and to support Israels genoside

    • @pretro6136
      @pretro6136 7 місяців тому

      ​@@HitchcockTheSnail its not about israel. if it was about israel he could've just said that there would never be ceasefire, and israel would've bribed the rest of the MPs too. this just shows how much control the PM has over the country. he decided before the debate even started, and the debate was just a facade to make it seem like it was the MP's decision

  • @commandert5
    @commandert5 7 місяців тому +417

    I really liked Hoyle when he was elected. But he has proved himself time and time again unable to contain a government running rampant over the rights of parliament and is now himself trampling backbencher's rights. Whatever happened to the backbencher's backstop?!

    • @AnotherLostBall
      @AnotherLostBall 7 місяців тому +9

      How do you suggest he should control the government? The system is certainly not perfect but it sort of works if all sides follow the “rules” and have some honour.

    • @alanbarker2279
      @alanbarker2279 7 місяців тому +24

      @@AnotherLostBall What he has done here is to stop the Tories from blocking Labour's amendment of an SNP motion - far more democratic than allowing them to sneakily block Labour's amendment by submitting their own which by precedent ousts Labour's.

    • @stevenajack
      @stevenajack 7 місяців тому +6

      ​@@alanbarker2279 Exactly, we are back to the arguments some put forward about more democracy somehow being undemocratic, the SNP have been playing cynical games with a very serious life and death topic. It's pathetic, if they really cared about debate and about the house of commons having it's say they would welcome this as democrats!

    • @Carl-tc2yb
      @Carl-tc2yb 7 місяців тому +8

      His powers ate limited.
      The (His)tories know their time is limited abd are causing as much chaos as possible to rob the taxpayer blind.

    • @djdilxxx5659
      @djdilxxx5659 7 місяців тому

      Payrolled by Israelis

  • @obscurazone
    @obscurazone 7 місяців тому +165

    What are the bets, that the SNP motion contains the word GENOCIDE, and this pathetic drip of a speaker has been TOLD that G.B can NOT have this word on the parliamentary record.

    • @lewismcdonald9691
      @lewismcdonald9691 7 місяців тому +51

      Labour aren’t happy with the SNP using collective punishment to describe what’s going on in Gaza tells you everything you need to know.

    • @tarimastanaka615
      @tarimastanaka615 7 місяців тому +2

      Speaker is right. You don't like it? Thanks for your opinion

    • @obscurazone
      @obscurazone 7 місяців тому +22

      @@tarimastanaka615 The Speaker quite literally states "It is my opinion" - and has control of the house regarding tabling motions. So to say that HIS opinion is correct, above mine and anyone else's, is not only moot (no one gets to challenge him) it is also clearly a very poor understanding of how democracy SHOULD operate. There is nothing democratic about a Speaker having the power to arbitrarily remove motions, on a whim, at the last minute. You evidently do not understand this. Re Read what I wrote and hopefully you'll now understand.

    • @xThronex
      @xThronex 7 місяців тому +15

      @@obscurazone I think they're just a genocide denier trying to claim that statements which reflect the actual facts on the ground (ongoing genocide) are to be dismissed out of hand.

    • @obscurazone
      @obscurazone 7 місяців тому

      @@xThronex Nah. I truly think it's because the SNP motion will literally state the word Genocide in print, and the "establishment" will fundamentally refuse to have this word being used formally as a matter of public record. They will NOT want GB associated in any way shape or form with that word - which they are, we sell arms to Israel. So by having this motion denied, GB wrings its hands, again. It is wiped off the public record, and no one can say GB did/did not vote for or against GENOCIDE. It's all PR, plain and simple.

  • @wivory81
    @wivory81 7 місяців тому +104

    He should have done the honourable thing when he was letting Johnson get away with lying, and resigned. The worst Speaker I can recall since PM questions was televised.

    • @galleon1968
      @galleon1968 7 місяців тому +4

      yeahwe got wallace and grommit after Bercow the slimy toad. God help us all!

    • @TriumInfinitum
      @TriumInfinitum 7 місяців тому

      Bercow the Cucked ?

  • @markellis796
    @markellis796 7 місяців тому +235

    Embarrassing, the clowns that run this once great country.

    • @BadgerOfTheSea
      @BadgerOfTheSea 7 місяців тому +15

      We were never great don't kid yourself with patriotic nostalgia

    • @mihangelap-williams9871
      @mihangelap-williams9871 7 місяців тому +9

      Do tell me when it was great. I have looked over the history of Britain and great doesn't pop up well it does in unionist fools

    • @mrwpg
      @mrwpg 7 місяців тому

      between the colonialism, the invention of concentration camps, funding Hitler, starving India, the Iraq invasion, funding NAZIS in Ukraine and the scamdemic i too struggle to find anything great about Britain...@@mihangelap-williams9871

    • @prismpyre7653
      @prismpyre7653 7 місяців тому

      your country was never 'great'- it was an is a horror that promulgates genocide and tyranny and still holds three other nations in bondage

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому +4

      You seemed to have missed the point. Such a move hasn't been seen for two decades. Are you watching closely? The curtain has been pulled back to inadvertently show how much control the Israel Lobby has on British politics.

  • @nomad6737
    @nomad6737 7 місяців тому +191

    Obvious that someone behind the scenes is benefiting from the conflict and doesn't want to stop the bloodshed

    • @alexanderdcossey9146
      @alexanderdcossey9146 7 місяців тому +22

      You honestly think if this had passed it would have made any difference to the bombing?

    • @DigitalRageInc
      @DigitalRageInc 7 місяців тому +14

      both main partys are in deep

    • @chriswilde7246
      @chriswilde7246 7 місяців тому +17

      More like Israel won't take any notice anyway, they couldn't care less what we think or say.
      Prehaps that's what our lot are concerned about.

    • @chriswilde7246
      @chriswilde7246 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@alexanderdcossey9146 I'm with you alexander, it won't make any difference. Infact we are probably the last nation Israel will listen to.

    • @chriswilde7246
      @chriswilde7246 7 місяців тому +3

      @@DigitalRageInc totally.

  • @iainmacintyre5718
    @iainmacintyre5718 7 місяців тому +84

    This is exactly why Scotland needs to get separation from this joke of a govt and Union

    • @berniv7375
      @berniv7375 7 місяців тому +17

      Scotland needs it's independence. We have so much to offer the international community.☮

    • @vinycrimbo8692
      @vinycrimbo8692 7 місяців тому +2

      Hopefully with Nicola running the show!!!!

    • @ErinStephanie-mf2qk
      @ErinStephanie-mf2qk 7 місяців тому +2

      England effectively dissolved the union ages ago. It’s just Scotland didn’t receive the memo. England are like a partner that has walked out, taken everything, leaving Scotland having to be the party, that has to put up with the expense and trauma of filing for divorce.

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 7 місяців тому +2

      @@ErinStephanie-mf2qkHoyle isn’t really anti Scottish, just desperate to help Kier in any way possible. Kier totally shat on him. Kier is the one that needs to lose his job but now Hoyle has disgraced himself & needs to go too.

    • @James-st9uu
      @James-st9uu 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah true, Scotland need independence from the UK to truly understand their own gender identity. Apparently thats the most pressing issue to the scottish people right now accoriding the socttish parliament.

  • @winopunk7720
    @winopunk7720 7 місяців тому +204

    Has there ever been a worse speaker of the house?

    • @C.D.Romulus
      @C.D.Romulus 7 місяців тому +14

      Ever been to America?😂

    • @Shybairnsgetnowt1
      @Shybairnsgetnowt1 7 місяців тому +2

      Tell me, has there?

    • @AnthonyD-yy2in
      @AnthonyD-yy2in 7 місяців тому

      @@C.D.Romulus America is full of mental cases... 🤣🤣😂

    • @toneoyay1
      @toneoyay1 7 місяців тому +5

      Yeah Michael Martin

    • @davidfoster2006
      @davidfoster2006 7 місяців тому +12

      Yes John Bercow.

  • @MC-zr6gc
    @MC-zr6gc 7 місяців тому +128

    Nobody brings eggs and tomatoes to debates anymore, and that's just sad

    • @mauranolan843
      @mauranolan843 7 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha.

    • @MC-zr6gc
      @MC-zr6gc 7 місяців тому

      @@mauranolan843 it would at LEAST make listening to some mumbly, mealy mouthed, self important, old fart, SOMEWHAT entertaining, if not bearable. 🥚 🍅

    • @amayastrata4629
      @amayastrata4629 7 місяців тому +2

      Not fair for the cleaning crew.

    • @felixdim3977
      @felixdim3977 7 місяців тому +1

      They can use their shoes!!!!

    • @eileenahern-ku9nx
      @eileenahern-ku9nx 7 місяців тому

      How long were they bringing the eggs?
      It's ok I have a fair idea.

  • @emmajk7433
    @emmajk7433 7 місяців тому +3

    Today was the day for the SNP ... To see this is scandalous

  • @Risingtide930
    @Risingtide930 7 місяців тому +162

    What is the point of opposition day debates, if the government in cahoots with the speaker can rig a debate if they don’t like what is proposed. Not only is the House of Lords obsolete but all the procedures and processes in the Commons need to be scrapped as well.

    • @personperson.7744
      @personperson.7744 7 місяців тому +11

      It’s not even the government. It’s Labour

    • @TBakerXD
      @TBakerXD 7 місяців тому

      The government are the ones booing this decision, it stops them from preventing Labour from being involved in the discussion

    • @svresh
      @svresh 7 місяців тому

      No its the Government also. Their amendments prevent other opposition amendments being considered, e.g. Green, Labour AND Libdem. Makes no sense to not allow a full range of debate IMO. @@personperson.7744

    • @maicka4417
      @maicka4417 7 місяців тому +8

      It sounds like the Tories have tried to use their ammendment to block the SNP motion. Hoyle has then allowed labour to forward a second amendment which reverses the Tory ammendment and returns the motion to something very similar to what the SNP initially put forward... so why are you crying?

    • @personperson.7744
      @personperson.7744 7 місяців тому +8

      @@maicka4417 no, Labour have moved one to challenge the SNP one. The SNP one has been discarded in favour of the Labour one despite it being an SNP opposition day

  • @wolfinstedd
    @wolfinstedd 7 місяців тому +134

    Once general election is done , this speaker is gone , thank god

    • @personperson.7744
      @personperson.7744 7 місяців тому +5

      Will he be? That will only happen if he resigns as speaker or loses his seat, which for a speaker is very hard

    • @TBakerXD
      @TBakerXD 7 місяців тому +6

      You know he's originally a Labour MP, right?

    • @randomdaveUK
      @randomdaveUK 7 місяців тому

      I thought they had a fixed term?

    • @FlaviadaRocha-c5m
      @FlaviadaRocha-c5m 7 місяців тому +2

      No@@randomdaveUK

    • @randomdaveUK
      @randomdaveUK 7 місяців тому +1

      @@FlaviadaRocha-c5m oh ok 👍
      So after the election they choose or keep the speaker

  • @janetgough6585
    @janetgough6585 7 місяців тому +47

    Apparently opposition and democracy are now outdated

    • @kityhawk2000
      @kityhawk2000 7 місяців тому +6

      It's an opposition amendment he's allowing. Did you even bother to look at what was going on before commenting?

    • @patriciaallan
      @patriciaallan 7 місяців тому

      Democracy died a long time ago corruption rules.

    • @janetgough6585
      @janetgough6585 7 місяців тому +1

      @@kityhawk2000 perhaps you believe an opposition amendment that the speaker doesn't like has nothing to do with democracy?

    • @awwasson
      @awwasson 7 місяців тому +2

      @@kityhawk2000most people on here have no clue what has happened. They are just looking at something to get mad about.

  • @joeidaho5938
    @joeidaho5938 7 місяців тому +21

    So damn corrupt.

  • @CatherineCoughlan-c1o
    @CatherineCoughlan-c1o 7 місяців тому +240

    My god Mr bercow is badly missed , this wet dish cloth of a speaker is a shambles

    • @springchicken893
      @springchicken893 7 місяців тому +5

      No need to be rude.

    • @derekferguson385
      @derekferguson385 7 місяців тому +17

      @@springchicken893not rude enough!!!

    • @TheValeyard92
      @TheValeyard92 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@springchicken893Hoyle is a useless sack of sh*t. As long as he gets his warm milk and his peerage, he'll let absolutely anything the ruling party says or does slide.

    • @tomcurtis907
      @tomcurtis907 7 місяців тому +3

      But no one does anything we just complain and then vote the next shower of 💩 in.
      There’s nothing we can do or want to it seems

    • @Simonsimon-fy3hq
      @Simonsimon-fy3hq 7 місяців тому +6

      You have clearly forgotten what a dreadful Speaker Bercow was.

  • @ru76224
    @ru76224 7 місяців тому +85

    What an inept individual..

    • @TheStalec
      @TheStalec 7 місяців тому

      How?

    • @ru76224
      @ru76224 7 місяців тому +6

      @@TheStalec
      Rarely has control of the room, often laughed at, threatens to remove people, rarely does..
      _How is he not?_

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому +3

      You've missed the point. Such a move hasn't been seen for 2 decades. Are you watching closely? The curtain has been pulled back to inadvertently show how much control the Israel Lobby has on British politics.

    • @LouisaGraves-pk1qw
      @LouisaGraves-pk1qw 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@HitchcockTheSnailAgreed. All are puppets of bigger factors.

    • @demaciasolos
      @demaciasolos Місяць тому

      @@ru76224Just like you.

  • @LeornianCyng
    @LeornianCyng 7 місяців тому +24

    Postman Pat has no spine and is an absolute embarrassment to the country. Shame on him

  • @petemcphee2
    @petemcphee2 7 місяців тому +5

    How can Hoyle call for Order after he trashed the neutrality of the Speakers chair?
    RESIGN!

  • @gilbertnellis4840
    @gilbertnellis4840 7 місяців тому +9

    So this is Britain today! How embarrassing!

    • @AJCavalier
      @AJCavalier 7 місяців тому

      Says you. Has there ever been a period in which you would be happy to call yourself British, before I’m guessing you think that everything Britain has ever done is evil, racist, imperialist, etc…

    • @demaciasolos
      @demaciasolos Місяць тому

      Not at all, child. Let the Middle East handle their own issues.

    • @gilbertnellis4840
      @gilbertnellis4840 Місяць тому

      History shows us that they are not allowed to due to constant meddling by the west in their affairs. Read some history on the subject old man!

  • @Holismleith
    @Holismleith 7 місяців тому +275

    This guys is national embarrassment

  • @johnrobertson6302
    @johnrobertson6302 7 місяців тому +203

    Surely he has now set the precedent that the 2 largest opposition parties to bring their own separate amendments for any motion brought to the House.

    • @TheConnorian
      @TheConnorian 7 місяців тому +48

      This is a good thing tbh. The idea that the government can block one of the opposition parties by submitting its own amendment is bad for politics and just empowers those in power more.

    • @LEThavFUNnSMILE
      @LEThavFUNnSMILE 7 місяців тому +13

      T​@@TheConnorian The current system where two main parties largely control parliament can be problematic, as it can sometimes lead to the interests of smaller groups or diverse perspectives being overlooked and at times the smaller parties will represent the majority position like with thr vote for a cease fire

    • @nickb1211
      @nickb1211 7 місяців тому +11

      The anger seems to be from the SNP and Tories. Precedent seems to be that only the government can suggest an amendment ... Or at any rate that only two would be tabled. This would force a 'you are for a ceasefire' as the SNP have it in their motion or the Conservatives amendment. SNP have said they would back the Labour amendment, so it's unclear practically what the issue is. Hoyle is going against precedent, perhaps under pressure to his Speakership, but if the Tories or SNP are objecting on grounds other than the principle of precedent then it seems disingenuous to argue you are against further debate/nuance on the issue.

    • @TheConnorian
      @TheConnorian 7 місяців тому +15

      ​@@LEThavFUNnSMILE Yes, which is why I don't think any more power should be ceded to whomever is in government. This change takes a tiny bit of that power away and empowers both opposition parties to be able to submit amendments to other opposition party motions without the government blocking them by merely submitting their own amendment.

    • @johnwade1095
      @johnwade1095 7 місяців тому +1

      That dwarf.

  • @Britishrailwaystories
    @Britishrailwaystories 7 місяців тому +122

    Absolute disgrace of the highest order. Shame.

    • @jakesummers1174
      @jakesummers1174 7 місяців тому +5

      why

    • @firstlast-tf3fq
      @firstlast-tf3fq 7 місяців тому +10

      It’s a disgrace that MPs are being able to vote on two options rather than just the government being able to block things arbitrarily?

    • @BozalliCopter
      @BozalliCopter 7 місяців тому +2

      tell us why you feel it is a "disgrace"

    • @TBakerXD
      @TBakerXD 7 місяців тому +1

      Do you actually know what it is that you're commenting on?

    • @Britishrailwaystories
      @Britishrailwaystories 7 місяців тому +1

      @@BozalliCopter I think it’s a way to obfuscate the debate and make it impossible to vote for a ceasefire. That’s my personal view. If this precedent was being made on virtually any other vote,I’d have welcomed the change in precedent. Doing it today will likely split votes and make both of them fail. Which is wrong.

  • @donttrip8282
    @donttrip8282 7 місяців тому +119

    The right honourable chocolate teapot at his meltiest!

  • @Mr-Foad
    @Mr-Foad 7 місяців тому +6

    Outdated sums up westminster, the royals and the united kingdom of food banks... Once Sco, Ni and Wales leave the uk; English people need to close this clown show down... they desrve better than this too.

  • @susangavaghan
    @susangavaghan 7 місяців тому +15

    This is appalling. They now change the rules when it suits them.

  • @ShotByAScot
    @ShotByAScot 7 місяців тому +6

    Oh look, England telling Scotland to get back in its box again.
    That Union of equals sure works funny doesn’t it! 🙄

  • @liamoconlocha3264
    @liamoconlocha3264 7 місяців тому +17

    The man has no authority

    • @starmersbarber
      @starmersbarber 7 місяців тому

      And has had no authority for quite some time. He is useless.

  • @alexanderewing3779
    @alexanderewing3779 7 місяців тому +36

    He makes the Tories look competent. The whole place needs reforming!

    • @alanbrown9178
      @alanbrown9178 7 місяців тому

      No chance of that happening... it would spoil tory/labour passing the ball back and forth every few years and then blaming their predecessors.....

  • @tomtheeagle1
    @tomtheeagle1 7 місяців тому +267

    As Hoyle can't even get any of these clowns to actually answer a question when asked, it is not a surprise that he now makes up his own new rules as he sees fit and just to suit the leaders of the two main parties.

    • @BozalliCopter
      @BozalliCopter 7 місяців тому +9

      I see this comment constantly on this channel, about "why doesn't Hoyle make the PM answer the question in PMQs".... that's not part of his role there, and for good reason

    • @personperson.7744
      @personperson.7744 7 місяців тому +3

      Isn’t what he’s doing helping smaller parties?

    • @tomtheeagle1
      @tomtheeagle1 7 місяців тому +5

      @@BozalliCopterIt is in his power to compel an answer to a question, especially if he suspects the reply is dishonest. That is a fact.

    • @mobsiesixsixsix9785
      @mobsiesixsixsix9785 7 місяців тому +2

      @@personperson.7744 Not at all, no. Didn't you understand what just happened?

    • @personperson.7744
      @personperson.7744 7 місяців тому +3

      @@mobsiesixsixsix9785 sorry, I think I misunderstood, I’ve just had a look and it is clear that it will make smaller parties harder to be heard. Sorry for the confusion

  • @MichaelShawcross
    @MichaelShawcross 7 місяців тому +3

    I think the Speaker's decision prevented a vote on the issue of "collective punishment" which would have led to a huge Labour backbench rebellion and an embarrassment to Keir Starmer. Or am I wrong?

  • @leslievincent20
    @leslievincent20 7 місяців тому +18

    Yes the House of Commons looks really concerned and heart broken about Gaza.

    • @hephaestion12
      @hephaestion12 7 місяців тому +2

      Quite! Have no idea what all this bollocks has bearing on any actual policy?

    • @fredneecher1746
      @fredneecher1746 7 місяців тому

      The Commons is wasting its - and our - time even considering Gaza. It's none of their business. Their job is to take care of Britain.

  • @Aiden_Graham
    @Aiden_Graham 7 місяців тому +4

    Britain out of Ireland, Scotland out of Britain! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪

  • @celticsole7542
    @celticsole7542 7 місяців тому +41

    The only REAL opposition 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @James-bc1jk
      @James-bc1jk 7 місяців тому

      Yeah Scotland has nothing to sing about lol

    • @iainmunro438
      @iainmunro438 7 місяців тому +3

      @@James-bc1jkand the Westminster government has of course. 😂

    • @James-bc1jk
      @James-bc1jk 7 місяців тому

      @@iainmunro438 no politicians have there all scum they don't work for us they fill there own pockets

    • @Aiden_Graham
      @Aiden_Graham 7 місяців тому +4

      If it wasn't time to leave now well it definitely is now! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @James-bc1jk
      @James-bc1jk 7 місяців тому

      @@Aiden_Graham you honestly think the Scottish government care about you lol you woman just left before the police could get hold of them text messages you need to wake up no government cares for the people just look around

  • @colmhealy8173
    @colmhealy8173 7 місяців тому +61

    War Criminals the lot of them 😢

    • @MontyCantsin5
      @MontyCantsin5 7 місяців тому +3

      Not all of them, no.

    • @iainfletcher3066
      @iainfletcher3066 7 місяців тому +3

      don't be ridiculous

    • @MT-kx2uc
      @MT-kx2uc 7 місяців тому

      Yeah only some of them. That's OK then....

    • @AJCavalier
      @AJCavalier 7 місяців тому

      You liberals always revert to name calling:
      1. By definition no they’re not
      2. Even if they were, so what
      3. Just because you don’t like them, doesn’t mean that they’re racist, transphobic, ableist, war criminals…etc

  • @jeanbartrum2773
    @jeanbartrum2773 7 місяців тому +60

    No matter what the result is Netenyahu will do what he wants unless we stop funding them and sending arms

    • @jeanbartrum2773
      @jeanbartrum2773 7 місяців тому +10

      Meanwhile people are starving and dying and hostages are still held ...ceasefire now stop playing games with peoples lives

  • @CraicDealer
    @CraicDealer 7 місяців тому +35

    It sounds like the cafeteria of a private school. Literally. Just listen to them.

    • @roberthindle5146
      @roberthindle5146 7 місяців тому

      Private schools do not have "cafeteria".
      Dining Halls, yes.
      Butteries, maybe.
      Tuck Shops, possibly.
      But certainly not a cafeteria nor a canteen. That would be gauche. Food is delivered by the dining staff to the table at each sitting. And the only significant sound one might hear would be the muted sneering of boys at the latin pronunciations used during grace.

    • @roberthindle5146
      @roberthindle5146 7 місяців тому

      Don't forget that Hoyle himself attended a private school, albeit the poorer of the two in Bolton.

    • @prismpyre7653
      @prismpyre7653 7 місяців тому

      you think THATS the problem here??? they should be angry

  • @SharmanSomerset
    @SharmanSomerset 7 місяців тому +18

    Hoyle has to be centre of attention, doesn’t he? How I wish Betty Boothroyd was still with us

  • @TheYopogo
    @TheYopogo 7 місяців тому +3

    What a repellant, highly improper, and cowardly action.

  • @scottstevenson7985
    @scottstevenson7985 7 місяців тому +5

    Pantomime for the Public.

  • @elbaz860
    @elbaz860 7 місяців тому +3

    Monty Python eat your heart out. This Speaker ignores the Standing Orders and cannot speak without reading (badly) from his notes

  • @SamBeck6090
    @SamBeck6090 7 місяців тому +5

    and this is how our country is run, no wonder nothing changes for the better.

  • @AsadAli-lz1mm
    @AsadAli-lz1mm 7 місяців тому +26

    Corruption, bullying, blackmail. NEW LABOUR IS BACK BABY!!!

  • @furyiv
    @furyiv 7 місяців тому +12

    Corrupt

  • @johnmccarron
    @johnmccarron 7 місяців тому +4

    Sack the Speaker.

  • @bernarddodd9788
    @bernarddodd9788 7 місяців тому +5

    The lack of seriousness is appalling as thousands are dying. Just a shameful ego theatre.

  • @BAR-kt3lf
    @BAR-kt3lf 7 місяців тому +7

    Always amazes me that this lot actually think the rest of the world gives a toss what they think!!

  • @laurarader2940
    @laurarader2940 7 місяців тому +193

    Easy to see why the Tories supported the submissive Hoyle to replace a much more independent & honorable Speaker.

    • @BozalliCopter
      @BozalliCopter 7 місяців тому +30

      He's just gone very much against what the government wants, so a strange time to raise this point

    • @charlierichards5865
      @charlierichards5865 7 місяців тому +16

      Bercow an independent Speaker in what world?

    • @grahamo22
      @grahamo22 7 місяців тому

      Sarcasm doesnt work in the written form. Bercow was and is a crooked moron.

    • @lewismcdonald9691
      @lewismcdonald9691 7 місяців тому +1

      @@BozalliCopternot really now the two main parties now have monopoly on any motion put to parliament

    • @TheConnorian
      @TheConnorian 7 місяців тому +8

      @@lewismcdonald9691 This is blatantly false. Why shouldn't the second-largest party in Parliament get to put an amendment to an important motion? How is that democratic that the government can block that just by submitting their own?

  • @stevenredpath9332
    @stevenredpath9332 7 місяців тому +19

    Did I hear correctly? Did the speaker of the House of Commons say that a procedure is archaic? Surely not in a place where they by going into two rooms to get counted or remain outside the rooms for every vote.

  • @WVislandia
    @WVislandia 7 місяців тому +53

    Get a new leader. He has proved time and time again that he is not competent and this personal intervention proves it.

    • @jottwarnish
      @jottwarnish 7 місяців тому +6

      On what basis? And, he's the speaker not the leader.

    • @WVislandia
      @WVislandia 7 місяців тому

      Corrected.@@jottwarnish

  • @martindornan1667
    @martindornan1667 7 місяців тому +14

    It's the SNP day in Westminster to put forward an opposition motion for debate and vote, the SNP motion asked for a immediate ceasefire in Gaza and in the motion it uses the words "collective punishment".
    It was reported that Labour was going to vote against or abstain against the SNP ceasefire motion because Keir Starmers Labour doesn't like the words "collective punishment" that is happening to the civilians in Gaza.
    It's been reported that Labour lent on the Labour Westminster Speaker to change the Westminster convention on how to proceed.
    The Labour Speaker changed the convention of Westminster that only the SNP motion and the Tory government motion would get debated and voted on. The Labour speaker of Westminster added a Labour amendment to the SNP immediate Gaza ceasefire motion to be debated and voted on.
    If the Labour amendment is voted through the SNP immediate Gaza ceasefire motion would not be voted on.
    The Tories pulled their amendment which means that the Labour amendment to the SNP motion will get voted on and will be added to the SNP motion and the SNP motion for an immediate Gaza ceasefire will not be voted on.
    The Labour amendment to the SNP motion was nodded through because the Tory government said that they wouldn't vote, so there wasn't a vote. No Labour MP can say they voted for a ceasefire.
    It effectively means that any SNP opposition day at Westminster to put forward SNP motions to be debated and voted on can be hijacked by Labour and the SNP motion wouldn't get voted on.
    The Westminster Clarks warned Lindsay Hoyle the Westminster speaker not to break with Westminster convention that could effectively deny the SNP a vote on their motion on the SNP opposition day at Westminster.
    Lindsay Hoyle who was a Labour MP before he became the Speaker of the house of commons who is meant to be unbiased and independent should resign.

    • @lightlight5317
      @lightlight5317 7 місяців тому

      SNP are worthless and do not deserve an opposition day.

  • @terryT-r5o
    @terryT-r5o 7 місяців тому +4

    In pushing the labour amendment he has watered down the ceasefire proposal. He has caused further loss of confidence in his decision making and he has displayed a cynical disregard for the Palestinian people.

  • @MrGrantSloan
    @MrGrantSloan 7 місяців тому +16

    He can't wait to get on to that HoL gravy train.

  • @ArsenalTrill
    @ArsenalTrill 7 місяців тому +8

    If the rules dont work, just change the rules...corruption to the highest degree

  • @a1990hussain
    @a1990hussain 7 місяців тому +40

    Israel's lobbyists have dirt on him, i bet

  • @maureensummers8212
    @maureensummers8212 7 місяців тому +3

    I'm sorry to see that the speaker of the house has given in to kier Starmer fter it would appear by one member who said that ,Starmer was shouting at the speaker in a private room. Oh dear I think that the speaker has caused a terrible mistake.

  • @clair233
    @clair233 7 місяців тому +5

    Shame on him.

  • @AdastraRecordings
    @AdastraRecordings 7 місяців тому +20

    Oh my days this is embarrassing.

  • @JamesLochridge-u1h
    @JamesLochridge-u1h 7 місяців тому +8

    This Speaker is a man without honour.

  • @AuldScot1888
    @AuldScot1888 7 місяців тому +15

    Get back in box Jocks!
    Union of equals my hairy Scottish arse.

  • @Sam-sz8fz
    @Sam-sz8fz 7 місяців тому +4

    The speakers a disgrace to Lancashire

  • @williamgilchrist7113
    @williamgilchrist7113 7 місяців тому +4

    We need a new speaker

  • @Redu3
    @Redu3 7 місяців тому +9

    ... Does anyone actually know what's going on here?

    • @TheConnorian
      @TheConnorian 7 місяців тому

      Tories angry that they couldn't screw over Labour

    • @pauls3204
      @pauls3204 7 місяців тому

      It was an SNP opposition motion day and they were blatantly kicked into touch by this corrupted speaker
      I personally could not give a snot about the religious nutters in the Mid East , but we have now a serious problem in parliament when this clod can stop a major party from having its say in the commons .

  • @kezl3037
    @kezl3037 7 місяців тому +2

    Sounds just like the playground. How much is it we pay these people again?

  • @MONSTERTRUCK4009
    @MONSTERTRUCK4009 7 місяців тому +38

    Could somebody explain this to me as though I were 7 years old?

    • @TheConnorian
      @TheConnorian 7 місяців тому +55

      SNP have brought a statement saying they want a ceasefire and want Parliament to back it. Labour want to tweak it to be more about a "lasting ceasefire". The government want to tweak it to say a slightly different ceasefire.
      Traditionally if the government want to tweak it, then parliament doesn't even get to consider Labour's proposed changes. Hoyle has said that is outdated and says that both should be allowed to be considered.
      The Tories don't like this because they wanted to be able to tweak it in a way Labour didn't like and say they didn't vote for a ceasefire. The SNP don't like this because they wanted to also see Labour divided over whatever the statement ended up being. Labour like this because they can vote for the ceasefire they believe in.

    • @VectorTracker
      @VectorTracker 7 місяців тому +11

      @@TheConnorian thanks for the explaination :) . It would seem the game of politics is being played well but for once Labour come out the winners (potentially)

    • @bravoalley228
      @bravoalley228 7 місяців тому +6

      thank you@@TheConnorian

    • @davidharrison4668
      @davidharrison4668 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TheConnorianthanks!

    • @personperson.7744
      @personperson.7744 7 місяців тому +14

      @@VectorTracker it’s good to bare in mind that the SNP were designated to table an amendment today, not Labour I believe

  • @HitchcockTheSnail
    @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому +14

    The curtain has been pulled back to inadvertently show how much control the Israel Lobby has on British politics. Such a move hasn't been seen for 2 decades. Are you watching closely?

    • @fredneecher1746
      @fredneecher1746 7 місяців тому

      I don't think it was the Israel lobby! You need to look around you and see who is threatening violence.

    • @HitchcockTheSnail
      @HitchcockTheSnail 7 місяців тому

      What are you on about? Starmer has admitted speaking with Israeli President Isaac Herzog before lobbying the Speaker of the House who is the son of a founder of Labour Friends of Israel. It's as clear as day. Once the nutjob Netanyahu has flattened & colonised Gaza, he'll begin on the neighbouring lands. Slowly but surely the Zionists expansionist aims will be obvious and the rest of the world will say no more ad the UK will have lost any credibility it once had. The actions of Starmer, his Zionist wife, the Israeli Jewish Lawyers of Britain (note their choice of American usage not 'solicitors'), the Speaker, they're all complicit and none of them have Britain in mind when they make their decisions. Disgraceful@@fredneecher1746

  • @essealants3730
    @essealants3730 7 місяців тому +4

    And that is the final nail in the coffin of a failed and out dated system in its entirity

  • @northernlad1397
    @northernlad1397 7 місяців тому +2

    They behavior is like kids in a nursery

  • @BadgerOfTheSea
    @BadgerOfTheSea 7 місяців тому +15

    The way he said "Just let me finish" was like a teacher who has lost the control and respect of his class and knows it. Get Hoyle out.

    • @sirmeowthelibrarycat
      @sirmeowthelibrarycat 7 місяців тому +2

      😠 As a retired teacher l agree with you. On several occasions l had to intervene when a class became unruly. I had a reputation for discipline that entered the classroom before me . . . No more bad behaviour 😡!

  • @mikehall7189
    @mikehall7189 7 місяців тому +5

    What an absolute joke.
    This is how democracy dies.

    • @BozalliCopter
      @BozalliCopter 7 місяців тому

      How? He is specifically allowing votes on two amendments, rather than allowing the government to shut the amendments down. How is that against democracy?

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 7 місяців тому +2

    Another reason why Scotland wants to leave the UK.

  • @Mrstevemoore
    @Mrstevemoore 7 місяців тому +8

    He can barely string a sentence together. It’s not the first time he has proven that he can barely read out loud.

  • @lindamacro5945
    @lindamacro5945 7 місяців тому +1

    L-Hoyle needs to resign. He was told that his politics were out of order by the Clerk. Remove him from this job as he is unfit for office. Is he a disgrace to the United Kingdom's Government?

  • @HeadAirKid
    @HeadAirKid 7 місяців тому +3

    Never underestimate the influence of Israel lobbying

  • @malcolmdavid722
    @malcolmdavid722 7 місяців тому +6

    What about the Palestinian hostages and journalist held captive in Israeli jails for YEARS without charge

  • @equaliser2265
    @equaliser2265 7 місяців тому +2

    Where is the democracy here, where are the rules, this is outrageous. God help us,

  • @julieyates405
    @julieyates405 7 місяців тому +2

    Disgraceful!

  • @ParcBlondel
    @ParcBlondel 7 місяців тому +2

    corruption.

  • @paulhurley635
    @paulhurley635 7 місяців тому +2

    Like a fecking cattle market, British politics in action, no wonder the UK is in such a mess.

  • @ma-iw2cb
    @ma-iw2cb 7 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely disgraceful

  • @chrislee8126
    @chrislee8126 7 місяців тому +1

    History is going to judge us very negatively over the issue of Gaza.

  • @Pandangus
    @Pandangus 7 місяців тому +18

    We miss you, Bercow 🥺

    • @appalingbehaviour
      @appalingbehaviour 7 місяців тому +5

      ORRRR-DERRRRR!😂

    • @kanny5175
      @kanny5175 7 місяців тому

      Nope

    • @appalingbehaviour
      @appalingbehaviour 7 місяців тому +1

      @@kanny5175 not even his trademark ORRRR-DERRRRR! ? Come on you must at least enjoy that!

  • @damianmoran1512
    @damianmoran1512 7 місяців тому +1

    Corruption 101

  • @mrwpg
    @mrwpg 7 місяців тому +2

    When the argument is about semantics while people die you know you are in a fascist regime...

  • @timstoddard3707
    @timstoddard3707 7 місяців тому +6

    So a ceasefire, which is the will of the people, is being stymied because of petty wording.

    • @Alana12
      @Alana12 7 місяців тому

      Will of what people ??? Certainly not English people

  • @daviewilson_1
    @daviewilson_1 7 місяців тому +3

    the swamp needs cleared from top to bottom , while this shit was going on more innocents perished

  • @springchicken893
    @springchicken893 7 місяців тому +1

    How undignified that lot is.

  • @zuzemoyo7696
    @zuzemoyo7696 7 місяців тому +5

    The madness goes on ad infinitum. 🎉😅

  • @AA-hg5fk
    @AA-hg5fk 7 місяців тому +30

    Wish we still head John Bercow as speaker.

    • @jayr3938
      @jayr3938 7 місяців тому +3

      He is on the Traitors show

    • @EileenHall-j9f
      @EileenHall-j9f 7 місяців тому +1

      God I so wish him back. This would not have happened on his watch.

  • @lilianandersonmayne4968
    @lilianandersonmayne4968 7 місяців тому +1

    The speaker of the house is more honest than Rishi why don't they get rid of him

  • @tones7mca
    @tones7mca 7 місяців тому +1

    This speaker, more than any I can remember, has been an unmitigated failure, again and again. His chairmanship of the UK Parliament has been a disgrace almost from the start.

  • @RoyWhearty
    @RoyWhearty 7 місяців тому

    Not in our name, never again and definitely not on live television.

  • @TheMarleyboy2
    @TheMarleyboy2 7 місяців тому +1

    It kind of makes me ashamed to vote at all, the whole system is outdated and certainly NOT fit for purpose.

  • @colrennie5936
    @colrennie5936 7 місяців тому +1

    I can barely understand what he is saying. Such an important issue and the house is out of control. What does the rest of the world think of us. Sad.

  • @nizviz
    @nizviz 7 місяців тому +1

    Why can't they vote on excessive undisclosed uk deaths, many more than in Gaza.

  • @russellgray938
    @russellgray938 7 місяців тому

    If this is Parliament, dissolve it. These so called MPS are a disgrace. Laughing stock.