Sailing in Croatia is expensive , harbour and anchor fees - SwT 6

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  • Sailing in Croatia is expensive and because of harbour fee and mooring fee even at anchor we left as soon as we could. Also to have work done on the boat was expensive and not the place to be. Although Croatia is a super pretty country with friendly people, amazing coastline, great food, and easy going it still is a strong candidate for top of the list most expensive place to sail.
    We love Croatia, but after a month there we could not afford to stay there anymore. It was expensive also last time we sailed there in 2016 but now it was even worse. Cheapest is north around Pula. The more south you sail the more boats and higher cost.
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  • @corezero
    @corezero 5 років тому +6

    True. Sailing in Croatia during peak season (July-August) is expensive and frustrating. All famous places are too crowded and you get ripped off for every little thing. Even worse government has granted boy field consesions that get abused by owners by setting the bouys so that it's impossible to anchor without paying.
    Visit outside the peak season for much better and cheaper sailing experience.

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  5 років тому

      It’s so beautiful and friendly people there, and easy chill sailing with lots of islands making Croatia one of the finest cruising waters. Sadly it looks like the yachting industry with charters is out of control.

    • @endlesssummer426
      @endlesssummer426 8 місяців тому

      @corezero many of the mooring buoys are highly illegal. They have no permit, they just dump them in the sea and start charging money. If you ask them for the license they will start cursing. Government has started cleaning up the illegal mooring fields. Best advice ? Ask for the license and if they don't have any, don't pay. Also ask for an official invoice, with name and tax nr of the company on the invoice. That will definitely scare them away.

  • @davedavids9619
    @davedavids9619 Рік тому +1

    Not a lot of people know this, but the majority of the mooring buoys are simply illegal, in other words private people throw mooring buoys in the water and charge money for it. They don't have a permit for it, they never asked for a permit and they don't maintain them.
    They even claim that you are not allowed to anchor or actually charge you when you are on your own anchor. Tourists don't know that the mooring buoys are illegal and happily pay these hustlers. In Korcula the local government is now coming down on them, almost 80 % of all mooring buoys will be removed this year. Charging for the mooring buoys was already illegal, since they don't have a permit and don't report the money to the tax office.
    Even cities are many times not allowed to charge for anchoring or a mooring buoy, but it is a bit of a grey area. It is time the government publishes a list with legal mooring buoys so that everyone knows where to pay and where not.
    Please print this out and keep it on the boat next time you are in Croatia, may save you a lot of money:
    gov.hr/en/nautics/1558

  • @ninoporen7547
    @ninoporen7547 5 років тому +10

    Very expensive… and every year more and more. The worst idea they have is to pay for staying in your own anchor!!!

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  5 років тому +3

      Looks like everywhere I go ports and countries have this strange idea that sailors have endless flow of money... Harbour fee, check in/out, cruising fees, taxes and so on...

  • @familiaporelmundo
    @familiaporelmundo 5 років тому +8

    come down to Turkey. Extremely cheap and all the coastline for yourself.

  • @Andre-os7kj
    @Andre-os7kj 5 років тому +2

    There are many places in Croatia where tourism has not yet arrived! No one lays it and it's free (including the months of July and August), then Montenegro or Albania is even better and even more beautiful! Bulgaria and Romania, is an adventure, not forgetting Turkey. Everything that is tourist attraction is infested with tourists! I leave an example: the Geiranger Fjord. Have fun!

  • @ioannisskiadas1271
    @ioannisskiadas1271 4 роки тому +3

    I sail every year July or August to the Ionian sea around Levkas, Ithaca, Meganisi islands and I can anchor my boat for free in most of the places. Food is of high quality and at very good prices and the coast line is spectacular.

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  4 роки тому

      Ionian Sea is beautiful! You just mentioned one of my favourite places so far. Enjoy your sailing and fair winds

  • @simonclayton5631
    @simonclayton5631 3 роки тому +2

    I reckon you get what you pay for and I think you need to provide a bit more perspective. Croatia is truly stunning but in addition the water is crystal clean. The towns are beautiful, clean, pleasant and interesting to visit...lots of history for those how like that stuff. Plenty of good restaurants and high quality and varied food is available. Marina facilities are great and staff excellent. Much better value for money than other places that charge similar prices like Italy, Sardinia, even some marina's in Turkey now on the pricey side. Also prices are per meter so be specific ...depends on size of your yacht!! Visit slightly off season if you can and you will have an outstanding time.

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  3 роки тому

      I’m with you in your comment! I have lots of friends from Croatia and it’s drop dead beautiful! Food is excellent and good beer as well! I love it there!!!! Only sad thing for a Cruiser on a boat it’s unfortunately very expensive. I will still go back there

  • @edward6902
    @edward6902 6 місяців тому

    6:44 Croatian Viking barmaid

  • @DUIRduje
    @DUIRduje 3 роки тому

    And now imagine owning a boat as Croatian (with Croatian wages)! Also it has some extra expenses compared to Norway. You HAVE TO register even in småbåtregister, and pay fees for using the sea, etc etc. Having a boat is considered luxury. Hilsen fra Tønsberg!

  • @gunter5069
    @gunter5069 4 роки тому +2

    In norway ,everyrhing is free,hotels,marinas,restorans

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  4 роки тому +3

      Title says sailing in Croatia is expensive. Sailing is free in Norway, also staying on anchor. Most marinas is dirt cheap compared to Croatia. Sad but true still the most expensive place ever sailed in my two years full time sailing. Hotels and restaurants is a different story!

    • @smulismuli7976
      @smulismuli7976 3 роки тому

      @@SailingwithThomas yes, generally speaking sailing anywhere in Scandinavia is very cheap. Just found your channel great videos. Ps. I'm from Finland but living in Belgium

  • @aspalathos8213
    @aspalathos8213 3 роки тому +1

    Thomas, I can understand your "frustration", but even domestic boats have to paid same ammount. Let's compared one car parking and mooring fee. How much, you paid 1 hour parking, close to center of the city? Multiplay that ammount with 24 hours, and comparate with mooring fee. However for spending night, there is so many bay what is not under concesion, or if you going 150 m far from concesion area is free.. But, if you like to mooring close to summer interesting and tourist island place, you have to paid fee, same as me. Sorry on my English.

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  3 роки тому +3

      Its true I get your point. However its one of very few places I have visited that you will have to Pay sitting on your anchor in a Bay where there is nothing. So it ads up and some weeks then cost a lot. That said its one of the most beautiful countries I visited. People are so friendly and food is amazing. Renting a room, house or even staying in hotels is affordable and so is bars and restaurants. Its just because of being the biggest charter boat country per capita in the World everything related to a boat gets out of controll expencive. Still love Croatia as a country

  • @kirillsuslov4557
    @kirillsuslov4557 Рік тому +1

    Looks more like motorboating in Croatia

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  Рік тому

      True! Croatia is either no wind or crazy storm from nowhere (Bora). Still amazing beautiful place with friendly people and great food.

  • @borntoplayproductions1513
    @borntoplayproductions1513 2 роки тому

    Takker for kjempe fin video og informasjon. Jeg har begynt med seil timer i Channel Islands, California hvor jeg bor men vil utvide horisonten etterhvert. Jeg skal følge deg på UA-cam🤠

  • @erikroijen6243
    @erikroijen6243 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah right. Sailing $300.000 boat and complaining about $30 fee for mooring buoy?
    If they charge you for anchoring on your own anchor, you were probably very close to the concession-buoys (within 150meter).
    Look for a different bay without buoy fields, there are numborous.
    Do not visit in peak season July/August.

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  2 роки тому

      I have been cruising in Croatia several seasons, and it got worse for every year. Had a 3 years break between last time I was cruising around and then lots of things changed. Nuber of charter boats was almost doubled. Bays you before could anchor was pepperd with mooring balls with Numbers and locks on. Charter boats only!
      Croatia is beautiful so is its people in general. Very friendly helpful and amazing food and wine. Infact I love Croatia and its Islands. But the charter industry is poison for the coastline and Islands. Its offcourse big industry and more money than visiting sailors with own yachts. But this is facts and something to be aware of as a Cruiser. Tourists chartering a yacht staying 10 persons together for only a week with a loose holliday budget dont care about mooring fees as its for a short periode and split cost as part of a short holliday budget. Now you almost have to sail north to Pula to find places to anchor, as all mooringballs are pre ordered with reservations. So if you dont have your weeks planned in details, and booked mooringbals months in advance finding a place to anchor or stay between may and October is almost imposible. Trying to go into a marina is also a challenge as most of them are owned by charter companies, and the weekends are transit days. So at the best you could stay a few days mid week but it does not come cheap either.
      It has nothing to do with my boat or my financial situation, its only a heads up to other Cruisers for this waters was and still are the most expencive place to visit.
      Even in the Caribbean you can stay in a marina with electrisity, water and other facilities cheaper than staying on your own anchor in Croatia. This is sad but true facts. So far only Galapagos is more expencive. Still worth a visit, but very few can afford to stay for long time to really explore and learn to know this beautiful nation and its people.
      Just because you sail your own yacht does not mean you print money down below and have endless stream of founds. Some seems to missunderstand this not realising the majority of Cruisers are on a budget after life long saving and planning.

    • @davedavids9619
      @davedavids9619 Рік тому

      @@SailingwithThomas I would not be surprised that all the of the mooring buoys by the charter companies are illegal. In Croatia the law states that the sea belongs to everyone, which means you can't claim a specific piece of water. Only the government can hand out permits for mooring buoys, but it is a very difficult process. So many people just throw in a mooring buoy and start charging money for it. As long as the police does not pass by to tell them it is illegal they will happily keep on doing it. Next time ask for their permit and see what their reaction is. If it is a legal mooring field they must have the permit of the state on their boat. If they don't have it the whole field is illegal and you can simply ignore all those buoys and throw your anchor out.
      It is time for the government to clean up this wild west scenes on the sea.

  • @davidllewelyn
    @davidllewelyn Рік тому

    I sailed last year in Croatia from June to September, the fast majority of the time I anchored over night and only paid ONCE when the anchorage was part of a port. When I occasionally went into marinas I never paid more than €100 for a 45 ft boat. If you have to haul the boat out to do work then you as the owner are allowed to work on the boat, but you are not meant to use third parties from outside the facility, if you do the facility will usual charge a daily fee or percentage. I appreciate Croatia is becoming more expensive, laws of supply and demand, but your video is not truly representative and unnecessarily negative.

    • @neilbuyabanger9889
      @neilbuyabanger9889 Рік тому

      David do you have a way I can reach you with a few questions about sailing in Croatia?

    • @davidllewelyn
      @davidllewelyn Рік тому

      @@neilbuyabanger9889 what is your Facebook or Insta username?

  • @Ivan1ns189
    @Ivan1ns189 9 місяців тому

    Sailing in territorial sea tax in Greece, payed anchorages in Croatia, what is next? Payed air? Paying for fact of existence on Earth? World is going crazy, people are going crazy, they just lock their mind on greed and money.

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  9 місяців тому

      It’s for sure getting harder for every year to have this lifestyle. Cruising permits and expensive paperwork in/out of nations. Anchorage being closed and replaced with moorings. The happy go lucky hippie style one a shoe string budget for sure is history in not long time. Technology also opens doors for a new type of sailors willing to pay and have strong economy. Bigger and more modern yachts are surprisingly high in numbers. So this again leads to more money to anything from marinas to Gouvernements. I was chocked by Croatia as well, and everywhere you see big charter fleets this will be the natural evolution. Everyone wants a piece of the cake made of money. So yeah sailing around the world are getting expensive

  • @MiQBohlin
    @MiQBohlin Рік тому

    💸💸💸

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes4983 5 років тому +4

    Owning and operating a boat is for rich people. Chartering enables people with less funds to experience the sailing life.

    • @Stuwy2
      @Stuwy2 3 роки тому +3

      This is incorrect. It all depends on an individuals priorities and creature comfort level.
      What I suspect you actually mean is, you can’t afford to buy and run a boat with the level of comfort you want.

    • @normanboyes4983
      @normanboyes4983 3 роки тому

      @@Stuwy2 I was not talking about me.

  • @jernejkuhar510
    @jernejkuhar510 3 роки тому +2

    Embarrassing! When Scandinavians complain about high prices. Maybe you should try something else. Throwing a horseshoe for example …

    • @SailingwithThomas
      @SailingwithThomas  3 роки тому +8

      Thank you for your comment. Im a bit confused if you mean being a Scandinavian I can not point out the fact that Croatia prefers charter boats and not cruisers? And that still after 3 years of full time cruising Croatia still is up on top 3 most expensive cruising destinations in the world? This is about sailing and not review of hotels or restaurants. I’m not complaining just pointing out the facts. You can almost stay in the most expensive marina in the Caribbean with all facilities for a month equal to the price staying on your own anchor with no amenities in Croatian waters for the same number of days. That said I love the country and it’s people as I also pointed out. They are beautiful and food, restaurants and everything not related to yachting is super affordable. Among the best countries for holiday as long as you don’t bring your own boat. I have lots of Croatian friends after my 3 seasons of cruising there and none is offended by me telling the truth. I can still stand behind this statement. Sorry if this upsets you, and I don’t get your horse shoe reference in this context. It’s pretty obvious charter sailors leave more money during a short holiday than a Cruiser. So I guess it’s a strategic decision. Don’t shoot the messenger.... All the best and stay safe and healthy

  • @nenineni7797
    @nenineni7797 3 роки тому

    you would throw garbage for free and occupy the bays ..... then stay in your country or go to some slave-owning....2 minuts ski lift 13,80e ?????????austria!