I have a friend that owns an airgun shop and he was kinda mad I didn’t by his 800$ carbon fiber tank and then spend another 400$ on a fill valve for it. When I told him I got a 6.8 ltr carbon fiber tank from Ace Care for 289$ valve included with fill hose also…I thought he was gonna smack me a good one. It works just as good for me. Still has a 30 year shelf life and gives me a ton of fills on all my airguns reliability. To each their own bud. You get what you can afford because as long as your shooting then all is well imo.👍 Thanks for making this informative video for us all to enjoy and learn from.
@@jimsilva5344 If i remember correctly the tank was a special at edgun west. Re-certs is a pain i can tell you that. sorry do not have any leads on that one.
It’s a big leap to get into pcps that’s for sure. I finally saved up the $$ last year and dove it head first!!! And let me tell you, when you hear that POP! from your slug entering a starlings chest 200 yards off, it makes it all worth it!! If you don’t like shooting over 50 yards then a break barrel is definitely the way to go!! But you want to shoot 250-300 yards with insane accuracy? Fx, Vulcan, huben, daystate pcp is the way to go.
If you are into Airguns you will own many different types of Airguns . Not even one PCP can do all the things you need it to do . I own a number of springers. My favorite is my open sight Weihrauch HW30S in .177 .
I’m trying to research what I need to buy along with the tank to use to fill my rifles in the field or even tether and I am glad I found this video. You got me when you were talking about the amount of shots from each tank and I’m over here thinking about my 65-400 fpe guns and how the numbers start to shrink very quickly
I use a yong heng compressor, and a 100ci bottle for my fx impact m3 .22 with a 580cc bottle, I usually get about 700 shots before I run out of air. The compressor will refill the bottle from 3000psi to 4500psi in about 5 minutes.
@Yiu Bee I guess I just got lucky, I'm on factory settings for 18 gr and it is still great for 15.89 , I didn't have to change anything. I still haven't done much shooting past 50 yards.
I have had the compressor for about 5 years now and it is starting to take longer to top off my bottle but at the price they go for I am just going to buy a new one.
Great video, very informative. If I can add to the getting your air tank filled dilemma, I have one of the tanks you in your possession. I have an AirVenturi 100 cu inch tank and was getting it filled at a local SCUBA fill shop for the past 5 years. The problem I ran into was that these tanks require a re-certification hydrostatic test after five years. My local SCUBA shop was not authorized to perform such a test. I had to drive an hour away to find a shop that can perform that hydrostatic test. Just something else to consider when buying such a tank.
Yes very good point. I heard the recerts can be a pain to get. In my area I think I have to send it over 2 or 3 states to get it certified again. ahhh kind of a pain. Thanks for watching and the sub.
I have a welding shop so I have a dozen bottles on lease all the time .I added a 587 cu 6000psi tank so storage is not an issue. I fill my 6.8l tanks from it I lost count how many times its still at 4500 psi when it get s down to 3000 psi I'll send it to get refilled 160.00 The lease on a bottle like that is expensive tho like 500. a yr. run it through the business so not such a big deal.The convivence of not having to go get filled or deal with compressors is nice The nearest place to get a tank filled was 45 min away and only did it on certain days
Very informative video, thanks for sharing this info! 👍 I was thinking about one of the small tanks for quick top-ups, but i do have one of the little amazon compressors, so ill probably just stick with that for now. Pete 🇨🇦
Thank for info. I am new to the sport. I have a Benjimin Bulldog .357 and finding out after the fact how pricey it is to keep air going. I have a compressor, which I do a direct fill, but the Bulldog is sooooo air hungry, it sucks. I need a tank, but didn't realize how big of a tank I should be being. Thanks again for this info. Eye opener. So, now I am on a filling place, to see if it is worth being a large tank. I may try my compressor, but run it 10 minutes at a time. Taking forever. Oh well Cheers
I have to say I was misled into getting a 72cuft tan k. I have a aea challenger pro .25. Running 2000psi reg and 4000 psi filled. I had thought that this tank 72cuft would fill the 350cc from empty 10-15 times but it doesn’t. 1st empty filled on the 350cc tube the reg on the tank drops to 3.5k-3.9k psi. From there after each top off the tank starts to empty. The 72cuft will fully fill one time and top off maybe 4-5 times and it done. If you plan to shoot alot and don’t have the expensive guns with high efficiency shot counts, just get a portable compressor and save yourself the trouble. The compressor may take 5-10 minutes to fill but it fills to your desired setting. I hope you don’t make the same mistakes i did, spending $700 on a tank that fills 1 times with 4/5 top offs
WOW 4000 PSI fill ? That is VERY HIGH ??? Something to look out for is the fill pressure. If you need 4400 PSI and have a 4500psi tank you will not get many fills for sure. That is why I like lower PSI operating rifles like the old days of 3000 or 2000 since you get more fills from a tank. Hope thins work out for you as I mentioned in the video there is a Refil calculator that gives you rough estimates on your fills giving your starting pressure, cubic feet, operating pressures and reg pressures. Best of luck man, my big bores chew through air while my .177 sip air..
@@ShootingTargets727 it doesn’t require that much air but I am new to the game and didn’t know much about this sport. I could fill it up to 3600 psi and lower the regulator to 1500 psi for better shot count. Perhaps have missed interpreted the info was misled by it. however I wished i found this channel before buying the air tank and should have bought a compressor instead. I also bought the challenger pro because of the great reviews for power and long distance but I overlooked the weight. At 9-10# it’s pretty heavy. Thanks for your honest feedbacks.
Just want to make sure my train of thought is correct. I'm thinking of getting a Benjamin Armada, it has a 3,000psi/215cc cylinder size reservoir attached. If I were to get an Air Venturi Mini Wingman(carbon fiber) 100 cu in.(1638cc) tank would it refill my gun 7 times to max pressure? Because 1638/215--> 7.6x or about 210 shots saying that it gets about 30 per reservoir on .22cal if the Venturi is filled to 3,000psi? In that case if I was plinking I think I would want to go with the 70 cu ft to have over a tin worth of shots handy if i'm out
Rights, So those small 100 in guppy tanks are ok for walking around hunting for a refill and topping off. If you want to target shoot I look at those as a 1 to 2 hours of shooting max. The 74CUft is like 1/2 to 3/4 day of shooting and if I want an all day I take the 98cu ft tank. Again depends on the caliber and air usage. If I had a .177 impact with 700 shot count yea the guppy tank would be all I need for any type of shooting. I mean it is crazy when you go up calibers you burn air. .177 FPE 12 is a dream to shoot for shot count.
Great tutorial video! Thank you! So I have a 74cu CF tank and just purchased an Air Venturi Namad III rated for 4500 psi. If I let the tank run down to half or a bit more can I fill it with this compressor?
I own a Daystate Regal and one of these large Omega tanks and I love my rifle but I detest having to fill one from a tank. I might get 2-3 fillings from a tank if I'm lucky but shooters should understand that once the pressure inside the airgun meets or demands a higher pressure than the tank can deliver, the tank will need to be refilled to bring back enough pressure to push air from the tank into your gun. These tanks are expensive and I would seriously advise a newbee in the airgun game to buy a good portable compressor and fill your gun with that device. Most of them cost less than these tanks and you will never need a tank again.
Thats me a newbee. I was mislead to buying a tank. I thought the tank was broken 🤦♂️ at first. I thought the tank will filled my challenger pro to 4k psi from empty 10-15 times but nope. Get a compressor instead
@@ShartedKegs My Omega tank was expensive at over $700. A great compressor for airguns is around half of that but when I bought my gun they didn't exist. I wonder if I could sell that tank?? lol
So , I got this 1.6 liter tank because I didn’t watch your video which is greatly in depth ,and i also subscribed , I am wondering if I can directly connect this 1.6 liter to my hatsan piledriver .50 cal and have the line connected and shoot from that directly attached to the gun. Also I have other air guns but the tank is gonna be sick for my .22 pcp , but I am curious. If you have time I appreciate you if you answer and well regardless , I appreciate you . I make airgun videos too. I just found you 🎉
ahh so you are asking about shooting tethered. Yes it can be done but and I me Be careful and make sure you have the right setup and pressure fills for both tanks figured out. You are probably better to find a down converter or down regulator or an external regulator that way you can fine tune you shots. Especially if it is 50 cal for the best accuracy. Shooting tethered. I do have a video on external regulators or top things you need for airgunning that might help. Again just be careful hooking up and using external lines to your PCP. thanks man !
Hello sir I hope you answer my question I have Diana BANDIT 50cc capacity fill from 100 bar to 200 bar How many fills approximately I get from the 3 liter tank
Ouch…. You will have to hit up AOA fill calculator once you know how it work with the conversions you can answer tons of questions. I’d have to figure out those specifics. Please look up AOA air tank refill calc… wish i could help more
I see the small tank sold as 100 Cu. In. which is .0.0578704 cubic feet, That would be impossible to get 1/3 of the shots of a 74 Cu. Ft. bottle if that were true. It must be close to 25 Cu. Ft. or 43,000 Cu. In.
Okay, I found out only the small tank is rated in it's water volume while the large tanks are rated in their compressed air volume. That explains why it's so far off.
Thanks for this discussion. I have a big steel Scuba tank 12L. Only dived with it x3. Am not poor but careful with money. My BullBoss reservoir is 230cc and is filled to 200bar. I don't mind pumping the hand pump. I would like to use my Scuba tank for air rifling only. And save buying a smaller tank and small compressor till later. How much pressure could a good handpump, pump my tank up to and how much pressure do I need to build up in it to fill my gun x5 to x20 times? My heads pressurizing just thinking about it !
Raymond try this calculator it should get you somewhere close. Man it all depdends and it can drive you crazy. This should let you play with some numbers. hope this helps. www.airgunsofarizona.com/Tanks/FillCalc.html
With my compressor which is a mid range it takes about 30 mins to 45 mins to fill the 74 cft tanks to 4500 psi. I start at about 3000 to 2500 psi. Hope this helps.
IS there a video describing O ring fittings in the tank to air gun connection? I have so much air leaking from my tank via ll the hook ups to get to the gun it seems hopeless.
No video as of yet. I been looking for those O rings to be in stock for the fx airguns. Thanks for watching might have to do a tank down video at some point.
I’ve got 2 60min tanks, they last me all day long at the range shooting my .30 Vulcan and .25 maverick. Both guns are getting around 40shots per fill. Using young heng to fill them both, (400$ all in including high end air filter) takes about 45 mins (breaks included) to fill from dead empty to 4500psi But topping off tanks only tanks 10 mins.
Yea, my next video is probably going to be on compressors which are highly variable. My feeling is that I will not have everybody agree due to the long lasting ability of these little compressors, some break right away, some, break years later.
@@ShootingTargets727 way I see it, on average young hengs last about 2-4 years, if they break most are covered under warranty for 2-3 years. The most expensive compressors 1800-2400$ seem to last 4-6 years with a 2 year warranty. If you do the math, the yong heng is probably the way to go, considering can buy 5 or 6 of them for the price of 1 higher end compressors. Then again, water is an issue for some, I live in the country soo I just let water that’s already cycled through compressor run out on lawn, it’s a non issue, but if you live in tight quarters I wouldn’t recommend.
Yes there are adapters. You need to be careful on the settings of the tank and the compressor settings. Some tanks only allow 2K psi others 1K. Also you need special fittings to make this happen depending on your HPA tanks.
Thats a very good question. So I just kind of measured it locally and my temps go from say a filling pressure of 70 to 80 degrees to say 110 to 120 degrees outside on a hot day. That pushes my tanks from say 275 bar to 300 bar easily. So if it were in my car say 120+ to 150 degrees then we are talking well over 300 bar fill. Just the things I noticed. When colder I always put in more air as usually winter goes from 60 degrees down to say 30 degrees again use to be 300 bar now about 275 bar or lower. Hope this helps.
@@ShootingTargets727 It does help. Thanks. I live in the greater Phoenix area now (now very hot) and have lived in northern Michigan in the past (occasionally very cold). it made me wonder about temperature influence.
I ordered the Hatsan Bullboss .25. Want to use for iguana hunting in Florida. Question: What is the actual valve on these for filling at the scuba store? My local dive stores (lots of them) can fill DIN valves all day, as that is a standard for scuba aside from the common yoke valves.
This one I am not sure. I use to know because years ago. I also remember then saying they would need to unhook their setup to fill my tank and that was a chore. If you get the correct valve setup it might not be that big of deal. Thou where I am from there is liability issues and they just shut down refilling tanks that and the local sports store so that is always and issue. Sorry wish I could be more help.
If I may chime in here... a lot of people run into the issue of filling these larger tanks as the gentleman in the video explained. But one option that a lot of people COMPLETELY look past as a very "reliable option" for filling these larger tanks is... your local firehouse. Many of the fire stations fill their own breathing tanks and will fill any size tank for 15$. Doesn't matter what size tanks you fill... they charge the same flat fee to fill up people's tanks. Honestly, tho, if you are like me and hate relying on others for your abilities to do something lol... and you have the funds and love shooting alot, just buy a larger tank and a GX compressor that can fill them with no problem. I bought the largest sized "GX compressor" that the company offers... off Amazon for $1250.00 and then bought 2 of the largest tanks in this video. I absolutely love my Umarex Gauntlet 2 .30 cal and have 2 arces of land that I have an EXTREMELY LARGE population of deer on. I bow hunt, black powered, crossbow and airgun hunt on my property, and my neighbors properties ( with their permission ) that span a few square miles in woodlands. So, for me, it was worth the cost of buying the tanks and largest GX compressor because I also shoot ALOT of target practice. I have a range that I made at the back of my property in the pine Barrens in South Jersey. So if you have, or are deciding to get the larger bore airguns... think about the compressor and tank situation now, and if it's in your budget to buy the proper gear to fill yourself. A lot of guys will opt for the smaller compressors and fill their large tanks in 10 to 15 min intervals until they are filled. The initial fill is and will be the longest. Then you are pretty much just "topping off" every time after if you don't completely empty your tanks. But before I just ended up and had enough of constantly running down to my local fire station to fill up my tanks... I just bought the GX compressor that fills those larger tanks extremely fast. That way, I am not relying on anyone but myself to be able to shoot when I want. I have that Hatsan .25 that you just purchased and it is okay on air.. but once you empty your tank on that airgun, you will want to keep shooting lol. It isnt a gigantic air hog, but it also isnt a .177 either lol. That is exactly why i bought the hatsan bullpup in .177 because it was so fun to shoot and i wanted the smaller version to get ALOT of shots with and wasnt a big bore airgun. The one main thing with Hatsans is that they do come empty and your first intial fill will seat the main o ring inside the airgun/tank. so unfortunately that cant be filled the 1st time with a hand pump... because it needs that intial large burst to seat things properly in those particular airguns. Alot of people buy those as their 1st airguns and think their new Hatsan is defective or broken because they cant fill it the 1st time with a hand pump. Alot of people think that they can just get by with the hand pump at 1st... but with the Hatsan it needs the compressor to seat it properly. Your comment was from a month ago, so iam sure you have figured that out by now lol. Have a good one
@@danieljamesbinderystu2968 Thanks for sharing, Yea I did forget to mention our fire departments. I mean I asked my local area and they said no but other people seem to have good luck. Thanks for chiming in.
@SHOOTING TARGETS No, I get it.. That's why I thought I would just add this in, lol. I know how it can be in informative videos like this. You have a lot of ground to cover, with the topic at hand. I am friends with many content creators and how it is very easy to forget to mention something... then after all is said and done, and then you are like " ahhhh damn it, I forget to mention so and so" so I just thought I would give this person a heads up because I didnt think i heard you mention it as a fill option. Like you said, tho, that is a hit or miss option..... but it is one a lot of people dont know when they are starting out. You did a great job at explaining everything. I actually have never come across your channel before, and your video just came up on my auto-play while I am working in my art studio and Bindery. You caught my attention because I just bought a few larger tanks. I am looking to get even more since I have family cabins in the mountains, and I want to buy some more tanks and another compressor so I don't have to lug everything back and forth. I am extremely fortunate that I can afford the ability to purchase everything, to do everything myself! I remember how I felt completely "overwhelmed" with all the new choices/decisions you must make when getting into the airgun market. There is almost wayyyy too much stuff that is out now to keep track of everything, lol. I am gonna check out a few more of your vids, and i just subbed to you.
@@danieljamesbinderystu2968 ahh yea thanks for the kind words. You are also correct about covering alot of ground in these videos sometimes you just keep it simple.... Thanks again and for the sub.
There are down regulators that take 4500 psi and convert it down to 2000 Psi or lower. AOA, prymid air, and utah airguns sell these adapters. There are a bunch of different ones. Mine costs roughly $550.00 be aware they can get expensive.
Man, I want to buy a tank for my fx impact m3 22, but I use a 700cc 300 bar bottle, but I only fill it to 250. Will I get a 9 or 12 fills with those big tanks 🤔??? Or I can use my 580cc even the 480cc. I use a Yong heng compressor to fill my guns, but I need a tank to go do pest control I don't know it would be hard to take youg heng compressor with a buck of water then find a plug for it lol 😅😅😅 I'll probably look like a idiot haha 😅
Yea those compressors take time to pump as well. Hmmm I mean you would have to do a crap ton of animal elimination to run out of air ?? in a 22 you should be able to last 1000s of shots.
@@chrisfigueroa3361 Chris I have 3 tank sizes. All of them I refill to max when I get home. Small tank 100 cu for day hunting with a .177, 22, 25 cal , Not target but enough for 100s if not 1000+ Shots. for hunting. medium size tank 74 cu ft for target and range, .22, 25, 257, 308 target shooting. 100s if not 1000+, shots. Target Shooting BIG BORE, .257, 308, 357, 457 use 98 cu ft. Maybe 100+ shots but less than 1000. Big Bore eats air. I use to carry my 98 CF tank with me everywhere in my car when hunting or target it does eveyrthing. I use to get it refilled at scheels sporting for $25.00, no longer i bought a compressor. If you walk alot and hunt and shoot alot only option is lower caliber and a small 100 cu tank. If you do not have an air compressor I would GO large fill until you run out, walk back to the car when hunting for more air. Hope this helps.
Side note, there is a reason why I like the .177 in 12 FPE is you can literally get 1 fill and have over 1000+ shots in an impact or delta wolf. The FTP 900 12 FPE give about 175 shots plenty for real hunting. The FX at 12 FPE 580cc tank will give you 700 shots all day shooting and fun...
Sorry catching up on comments this got by me. Well, hmm sometimes valves on tanks have max ouput pressure. Like paintball tanks will pump up to 4500 psi but when filling the paint ball marker it only ouputs air to 800psi. FYI check you guages to make sure everything is all good. Thanks for watching.
@@drywallman1986 Yes, but with all the air gunner's additiional accouterment (compressor, hoses, fittings, this and that tiddlelywink, etc.), in the early days, air gunning can be more expensive (in some situations). 😫
MAN! You're paying $35-$40 per fill for a 98 cu. ft. carbon fiber tank? Remind me to never go to your area... I have a dive shop I've been using for years which will fill my 98 (from around 2,500psi) to 310 bar (4,500psi) for $10!
yep, it use to be cheap but then people were using too much air so they kept increasing the price. Sadly at the end they were like hey this 98ft tank is killing our fills so we are going to make it painful for you to come here. It was a way of chasing business away. Also thanks for watching, sharing and the sub.
I have a friend that owns an airgun shop and he was kinda mad I didn’t by his 800$ carbon fiber tank and then spend another 400$ on a fill valve for it. When I told him I got a 6.8 ltr carbon fiber tank from Ace Care for 289$ valve included with fill hose also…I thought he was gonna smack me a good one. It works just as good for me. Still has a 30 year shelf life and gives me a ton of fills on all my airguns reliability. To each their own bud. You get what you can afford because as long as your shooting then all is well imo.👍 Thanks for making this informative video for us all to enjoy and learn from.
Yes, thanks for watching totally agree ! thanks for the sub.
Does the tank need certification?
@@marcussmart3275Yep all tanks need some certification at some time ! 5 years 10, 15 ect.
Where did you find this $285 purchase? How much did you pay to get it certified?
@@jimsilva5344 If i remember correctly the tank was a special at edgun west. Re-certs is a pain i can tell you that. sorry do not have any leads on that one.
Wow... This makes me glad i bought a Weihrauch 97 spring gun..
It’s a big leap to get into pcps that’s for sure. I finally saved up the $$ last year and dove it head first!!! And let me tell you, when you hear that POP! from your slug entering a starlings chest 200 yards off, it makes it all worth it!! If you don’t like shooting over 50 yards then a break barrel is definitely the way to go!! But you want to shoot 250-300 yards with insane accuracy? Fx, Vulcan, huben, daystate pcp is the way to go.
If you are into Airguns you will own many different types of Airguns . Not even one PCP can do all the things you need it to do .
I own a number of springers. My favorite is my open sight Weihrauch HW30S in .177 .
I’m trying to research what I need to buy along with the tank to use to fill my rifles in the field or even tether and I am glad I found this video. You got me when you were talking about the amount of shots from each tank and I’m over here thinking about my 65-400 fpe guns and how the numbers start to shrink very quickly
ahhh yea, it power and air usage adds up quick.. Thanks for watching Pasty..
The Hill EC-3000 works great on pumping a 6.8L diving tank 👍
ohhh yea the old diving tanks...... Thanks for watching...
This is not what I was looking for when I typed in PCP in a bottle but now you got me interested in air guns good sir!
lol....😀
Get a hand pump!
I use a yong heng compressor, and a 100ci bottle for my fx impact m3 .22 with a 580cc bottle, I usually get about 700 shots before I run out of air. The compressor will refill the bottle from 3000psi to 4500psi in about 5 minutes.
very nice , how fast or how much FPE is the rifle shooting ? Also thanks for watching ..
@@ShootingTargets727 with 15.89 jbs pellets 45 fpe 24.5 slugs 60 fpe
@@tomhenderson7972 Nice thanks for the update.
@@tomhenderson7972 my gun is not accurate with the 15.89 pellets how did you set up the m3? My gun only works on 18.13.
@Yiu Bee I guess I just got lucky, I'm on factory settings for 18 gr and it is still great for 15.89 , I didn't have to change anything. I still haven't done much shooting past 50 yards.
I have a 60 minute scba tank from the fire service and fill it with a yong hang compressor. Works for me.
Same here
I have had the compressor for about 5 years now and it is starting to take longer to top off my bottle but at the price they go for I am just going to buy a new one.
Well detailed and explained subject.
Thanks for watching !!
Great video, very informative. If I can add to the getting your air tank filled dilemma, I have one of the tanks you in your possession. I have an AirVenturi 100 cu inch tank and was getting it filled at a local SCUBA fill shop for the past 5 years. The problem I ran into was that these tanks require a re-certification hydrostatic test after five years. My local SCUBA shop was not authorized to perform such a test. I had to drive an hour away to find a shop that can perform that hydrostatic test. Just something else to consider when buying such a tank.
Yes very good point. I heard the recerts can be a pain to get. In my area I think I have to send it over 2 or 3 states to get it certified again. ahhh kind of a pain. Thanks for watching and the sub.
I have a welding shop so I have a dozen bottles on lease all the time .I added a 587 cu 6000psi tank so storage is not an issue. I fill my 6.8l tanks from it I lost count how many times its still at 4500 psi when it get s down to 3000 psi I'll send it to get refilled 160.00 The lease on a bottle like that is expensive tho like 500. a yr. run it through the business so not such a big deal.The convivence of not having to go get filled or deal with compressors is nice The nearest place to get a tank filled was 45 min away and only did it on certain days
Hey much thanks for watching, commenting and the sub. Yep having a compressor and that many tanks is really nice.
Very informative video, thanks for sharing this info! 👍
I was thinking about one of the small tanks for quick top-ups, but i do have one of the little amazon compressors, so ill probably just stick with that for now.
Pete 🇨🇦
Thanks for watching and the subscribe !
Thank for info. I am new to the sport. I have a Benjimin Bulldog .357 and finding out after the fact how pricey it is to keep air going. I have a compressor, which I do a direct fill, but the Bulldog is sooooo air hungry, it sucks. I need a tank, but didn't realize how big of a tank I should be being. Thanks again for this info. Eye opener.
So, now I am on a filling place, to see if it is worth being a large tank. I may try my compressor, but run it 10 minutes at a time. Taking forever. Oh well Cheers
Yea, it is a learning process for sure. Airguns are unique and everybody takes the lumps as they learn. I know I have .... Thanks for watching ....
I have to say I was misled into getting a 72cuft tan k. I have a aea challenger pro .25. Running 2000psi reg and 4000 psi filled. I had thought that this tank 72cuft would fill the 350cc from empty 10-15 times but it doesn’t. 1st empty filled on the 350cc tube the reg on the tank drops to 3.5k-3.9k psi. From there after each top off the tank starts to empty. The 72cuft will fully fill one time and top off maybe 4-5 times and it done. If you plan to shoot alot and don’t have the expensive guns with high efficiency shot counts, just get a portable compressor and save yourself the trouble. The compressor may take 5-10 minutes to fill but it fills to your desired setting. I hope you don’t make the same mistakes i did, spending $700 on a tank that fills 1 times with 4/5 top offs
WOW 4000 PSI fill ? That is VERY HIGH ??? Something to look out for is the fill pressure. If you need 4400 PSI and have a 4500psi tank you will not get many fills for sure. That is why I like lower PSI operating rifles like the old days of 3000 or 2000 since you get more fills from a tank. Hope thins work out for you as I mentioned in the video there is a Refil calculator that gives you rough estimates on your fills giving your starting pressure, cubic feet, operating pressures and reg pressures. Best of luck man, my big bores chew through air while my .177 sip air..
@@ShootingTargets727 it doesn’t require that much air but I am new to the game and didn’t know much about this sport. I could fill it up to 3600 psi and lower the regulator to 1500 psi for better shot count. Perhaps have missed interpreted the info was misled by it. however I wished i found this channel before buying the air tank and should have bought a compressor instead. I also bought the challenger pro because of the great reviews for power and long distance but I overlooked the weight. At 9-10# it’s pretty heavy. Thanks for your honest feedbacks.
You bet it is alot more invovled over shooting powder burners. Good luck@@hmoob-dab-tsi7572
I take both pcp and springer with me when hunting if the shot is far and difficult to take i use the pcp when it’s easy I use the springer.
Nice compromise between the 2 ... Thanks for watching...
Very informative video keep em coming you just got another subscriber👍
Ahhh thanks for watching…
Good video!
Great informative vid thanks very much
You bet thanks again for watching and the sub...
Just want to make sure my train of thought is correct.
I'm thinking of getting a Benjamin Armada, it has a 3,000psi/215cc cylinder size reservoir attached. If I were to get an Air Venturi Mini Wingman(carbon fiber) 100 cu in.(1638cc) tank would it refill my gun 7 times to max pressure? Because 1638/215--> 7.6x or about 210 shots saying that it gets about 30 per reservoir on .22cal if the Venturi is filled to 3,000psi?
In that case if I was plinking I think I would want to go with the 70 cu ft to have over a tin worth of shots handy if i'm out
Rights, So those small 100 in guppy tanks are ok for walking around hunting for a refill and topping off. If you want to target shoot I look at those as a 1 to 2 hours of shooting max. The 74CUft is like 1/2 to 3/4 day of shooting and if I want an all day I take the 98cu ft tank. Again depends on the caliber and air usage. If I had a .177 impact with 700 shot count yea the guppy tank would be all I need for any type of shooting. I mean it is crazy when you go up calibers you burn air. .177 FPE 12 is a dream to shoot for shot count.
Great tutorial video! Thank you! So I have a 74cu CF tank and just purchased an Air Venturi Namad III rated for 4500 psi. If I let the tank run down to half or a bit more can I fill it with this compressor?
Great, yea, hopefully it can help some people.
I own a Daystate Regal and one of these large Omega tanks and I love my rifle but I detest having to fill one from a tank. I might get 2-3 fillings from a tank if I'm lucky but shooters should understand that once the pressure inside the airgun meets or demands a higher pressure than the tank can deliver, the tank will need to be refilled to bring back enough pressure to push air from the tank into your gun.
These tanks are expensive and I would seriously advise a newbee in the airgun game to buy a good portable compressor and fill your gun with that device. Most of them cost less than these tanks and you will never need a tank again.
Brocock ghost owner. Almost afraid to crank up the power if I’m not near a compressor. That 480cc bottle needs to be filled non stop.
Thats me a newbee. I was mislead to buying a tank. I thought the tank was broken 🤦♂️ at first. I thought the tank will filled my challenger pro to 4k psi from empty 10-15 times but nope.
Get a compressor instead
@@ShartedKegs My Omega tank was expensive at over $700. A great compressor for airguns is around half of that but when I bought my gun they didn't exist. I wonder if I could sell that tank?? lol
Good info, thank you
you bet
Thank you for that good info.
So , I got this 1.6 liter tank because I didn’t watch your video which is greatly in depth ,and i also subscribed , I am wondering if I can directly connect this 1.6 liter to my hatsan piledriver .50 cal and have the line connected and shoot from that directly attached to the gun. Also I have other air guns but the tank is gonna be sick for my .22 pcp , but I am curious. If you have time I appreciate you if you answer and well regardless , I appreciate you . I make airgun videos too. I just found you 🎉
ahh so you are asking about shooting tethered. Yes it can be done but and I me Be careful and make sure you have the right setup and pressure fills for both tanks figured out. You are probably better to find a down converter or down regulator or an external regulator that way you can fine tune you shots. Especially if it is 50 cal for the best accuracy. Shooting tethered. I do have a video on external regulators or top things you need for airgunning that might help. Again just be careful hooking up and using external lines to your PCP. thanks man !
can I load a tank with two compressors at the same time????
LOL you could probably do that maybe a split Y shape fitting... Good Luck!
Hello sir I hope you answer my question
I have Diana BANDIT 50cc capacity fill from 100 bar to 200 bar
How many fills approximately I get from the 3 liter tank
Ouch…. You will have to hit up AOA fill calculator once you know how it work with the conversions you can answer tons of questions. I’d have to figure out those specifics. Please look up AOA air tank refill calc… wish i could help more
I see the small tank sold as 100 Cu. In. which is .0.0578704 cubic feet, That would be impossible to get 1/3 of the shots of a 74 Cu. Ft. bottle if that were true. It must be close to 25 Cu. Ft. or 43,000 Cu. In.
Okay, I found out only the small tank is rated in it's water volume while the large tanks are rated in their compressed air volume. That explains why it's so far off.
Thanks for this discussion. I have a big steel Scuba tank 12L. Only dived with it x3. Am not poor but careful with money. My BullBoss reservoir is 230cc and is filled to 200bar. I don't mind pumping the hand pump. I would like to use my Scuba tank for air rifling only. And save buying a smaller tank and small compressor till later. How much pressure could a good handpump, pump my tank up to and how much pressure do I need to build up in it to fill my gun x5 to x20 times? My heads pressurizing just thinking about it !
Raymond try this calculator it should get you somewhere close. Man it all depdends and it can drive you crazy. This should let you play with some numbers. hope this helps.
www.airgunsofarizona.com/Tanks/FillCalc.html
Bro how long to refill the tank in the middle? Is normal takes one hour for 3000?
With my compressor which is a mid range it takes about 30 mins to 45 mins to fill the 74 cft tanks to 4500 psi. I start at about 3000 to 2500 psi. Hope this helps.
IS there a video describing O ring fittings in the tank to air gun connection? I have so much air leaking from my tank via ll the hook ups to get to the gun it seems hopeless.
No video as of yet. I been looking for those O rings to be in stock for the fx airguns. Thanks for watching might have to do a tank down video at some point.
Does air go bag in storage ?
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LOL thanks man man !
Can you post the spreadsheet your looking at on google ?
Nice explanation thanks m8
Glad it helped, also thanks for the sub.
I’ve got 2 60min tanks, they last me all day long at the range shooting my .30 Vulcan and .25 maverick. Both guns are getting around 40shots per fill.
Using young heng to fill them both, (400$ all in including high end air filter) takes about 45 mins (breaks included) to fill from dead empty to 4500psi
But topping off tanks only tanks 10 mins.
Yea, my next video is probably going to be on compressors which are highly variable. My feeling is that I will not have everybody agree due to the long lasting ability of these little compressors, some break right away, some, break years later.
Thanks for watching by the way !
@@ShootingTargets727 way I see it, on average young hengs last about 2-4 years, if they break most are covered under warranty for 2-3 years.
The most expensive compressors 1800-2400$ seem to last 4-6 years with a 2 year warranty.
If you do the math, the yong heng is probably the way to go, considering can buy 5 or 6 of them for the price of 1 higher end compressors.
Then again, water is an issue for some, I live in the country soo I just let water that’s already cycled through compressor run out on lawn, it’s a non issue, but if you live in tight quarters I wouldn’t recommend.
@@Oregon-airguns yea, i was thinking about the math as well ! 2 to 4 yearsthen replace ect.... Thanks for sharing.
Can an HPA tank be filled with a PCP compressor?
Yes there are adapters. You need to be careful on the settings of the tank and the compressor settings. Some tanks only allow 2K psi others 1K. Also you need special fittings to make this happen depending on your HPA tanks.
What are the temperature assumptions for these numbers? I’ve lived in very hot and very cold places.
Thats a very good question. So I just kind of measured it locally and my temps go from say a filling pressure of 70 to 80 degrees to say 110 to 120 degrees outside on a hot day. That pushes my tanks from say 275 bar to 300 bar easily. So if it were in my car say 120+ to 150 degrees then we are talking well over 300 bar fill. Just the things I noticed. When colder I always put in more air as usually winter goes from 60 degrees down to say 30 degrees again use to be 300 bar now about 275 bar or lower. Hope this helps.
@@ShootingTargets727 It does help. Thanks. I live in the greater Phoenix area now (now very hot) and have lived in northern Michigan in the past (occasionally very cold). it made me wonder about temperature influence.
@@anthonylloyd2324 Yea, cant imagine what the temps of a tank in the car in phoenix would be. Stuff starts to melt... Thanks again..
I ordered the Hatsan Bullboss .25. Want to use for iguana hunting in Florida. Question: What is the actual valve on these for filling at the scuba store?
My local dive stores (lots of them) can fill DIN valves all day, as that is a standard for scuba aside from the common yoke valves.
This one I am not sure. I use to know because years ago. I also remember then saying they would need to unhook their setup to fill my tank and that was a chore. If you get the correct valve setup it might not be that big of deal. Thou where I am from there is liability issues and they just shut down refilling tanks that and the local sports store so that is always and issue. Sorry wish I could be more help.
If I may chime in here... a lot of people run into the issue of filling these larger tanks as the gentleman in the video explained. But one option that a lot of people COMPLETELY look past as a very "reliable option" for filling these larger tanks is... your local firehouse. Many of the fire stations fill their own breathing tanks and will fill any size tank for 15$. Doesn't matter what size tanks you fill... they charge the same flat fee to fill up people's tanks. Honestly, tho, if you are like me and hate relying on others for your abilities to do something lol... and you have the funds and love shooting alot, just buy a larger tank and a GX compressor that can fill them with no problem. I bought the largest sized "GX compressor" that the company offers... off Amazon for $1250.00 and then bought 2 of the largest tanks in this video. I absolutely love my Umarex Gauntlet 2 .30 cal and have 2 arces of land that I have an EXTREMELY LARGE population of deer on. I bow hunt, black powered, crossbow and airgun hunt on my property, and my neighbors properties ( with their permission ) that span a few square miles in woodlands. So, for me, it was worth the cost of buying the tanks and largest GX compressor because I also shoot ALOT of target practice. I have a range that I made at the back of my property in the pine Barrens in South Jersey. So if you have, or are deciding to get the larger bore airguns... think about the compressor and tank situation now, and if it's in your budget to buy the proper gear to fill yourself. A lot of guys will opt for the smaller compressors and fill their large tanks in 10 to 15 min intervals until they are filled. The initial fill is and will be the longest. Then you are pretty much just "topping off" every time after if you don't completely empty your tanks. But before I just ended up and had enough of constantly running down to my local fire station to fill up my tanks... I just bought the GX compressor that fills those larger tanks extremely fast. That way, I am not relying on anyone but myself to be able to shoot when I want. I have that Hatsan .25 that you just purchased and it is okay on air.. but once you empty your tank on that airgun, you will want to keep shooting lol. It isnt a gigantic air hog, but it also isnt a .177 either lol. That is exactly why i bought the hatsan bullpup in .177 because it was so fun to shoot and i wanted the smaller version to get ALOT of shots with and wasnt a big bore airgun. The one main thing with Hatsans is that they do come empty and your first intial fill will seat the main o ring inside the airgun/tank. so unfortunately that cant be filled the 1st time with a hand pump... because it needs that intial large burst to seat things properly in those particular airguns. Alot of people buy those as their 1st airguns and think their new Hatsan is defective or broken because they cant fill it the 1st time with a hand pump. Alot of people think that they can just get by with the hand pump at 1st... but with the Hatsan it needs the compressor to seat it properly. Your comment was from a month ago, so iam sure you have figured that out by now lol. Have a good one
@@danieljamesbinderystu2968 Thanks for sharing, Yea I did forget to mention our fire departments. I mean I asked my local area and they said no but other people seem to have good luck. Thanks for chiming in.
@SHOOTING TARGETS No, I get it.. That's why I thought I would just add this in, lol. I know how it can be in informative videos like this. You have a lot of ground to cover, with the topic at hand. I am friends with many content creators and how it is very easy to forget to mention something... then after all is said and done, and then you are like " ahhhh damn it, I forget to mention so and so" so I just thought I would give this person a heads up because I didnt think i heard you mention it as a fill option. Like you said, tho, that is a hit or miss option..... but it is one a lot of people dont know when they are starting out. You did a great job at explaining everything. I actually have never come across your channel before, and your video just came up on my auto-play while I am working in my art studio and Bindery. You caught my attention because I just bought a few larger tanks. I am looking to get even more since I have family cabins in the mountains, and I want to buy some more tanks and another compressor so I don't have to lug everything back and forth. I am extremely fortunate that I can afford the ability to purchase everything, to do everything myself! I remember how I felt completely "overwhelmed" with all the new choices/decisions you must make when getting into the airgun market. There is almost wayyyy too much stuff that is out now to keep track of everything, lol. I am gonna check out a few more of your vids, and i just subbed to you.
@@danieljamesbinderystu2968 ahh yea thanks for the kind words. You are also correct about covering alot of ground in these videos sometimes you just keep it simple.... Thanks again and for the sub.
I have an Umarex Hammer and obviously it only gets 3 full power shots , what do you use to tether your air tank ?
There are down regulators that take 4500 psi and convert it down to 2000 Psi or lower. AOA, prymid air, and utah airguns sell these adapters. There are a bunch of different ones. Mine costs roughly $550.00 be aware they can get expensive.
Hope this helps, also these brands change alot so Utah should be able to help you out.
Can I air travel with one?
ahh not sure I think they are suppose to be no filled. 😩
I dont know why it cost you so much where you go cause I only pay 10 bucks to fill my 75 cubic foot OMEGA TANK.
I know getting air in my town is a nightmare…..
I'm lucky. I just found an airball field that will fill my .25 BSA Lonestar and tank for free
Man, I want to buy a tank for my fx impact m3 22, but I use a 700cc 300 bar bottle, but I only fill it to 250. Will I get a 9 or 12 fills with those big tanks 🤔??? Or I can use my 580cc even the 480cc. I use a Yong heng compressor to fill my guns, but I need a tank to go do pest control I don't know it would be hard to take youg heng compressor with a buck of water then find a plug for it lol 😅😅😅 I'll probably look like a idiot haha 😅
Yea those compressors take time to pump as well. Hmmm I mean you would have to do a crap ton of animal elimination to run out of air ?? in a 22 you should be able to last 1000s of shots.
@SHOOTING TARGETS thanks yeah I need a tank, but what size do you recommends like how big the 98 cf ?
@@chrisfigueroa3361 Chris I have 3 tank sizes. All of them I refill to max when I get home. Small tank 100 cu for day hunting with a .177, 22, 25 cal , Not target but enough for 100s if not 1000+ Shots. for hunting. medium size tank 74 cu ft for target and range, .22, 25, 257, 308 target shooting. 100s if not 1000+, shots. Target Shooting BIG BORE, .257, 308, 357, 457 use 98 cu ft. Maybe 100+ shots but less than 1000. Big Bore eats air. I use to carry my 98 CF tank with me everywhere in my car when hunting or target it does eveyrthing. I use to get it refilled at scheels sporting for $25.00, no longer i bought a compressor. If you walk alot and hunt and shoot alot only option is lower caliber and a small 100 cu tank. If you do not have an air compressor I would GO large fill until you run out, walk back to the car when hunting for more air. Hope this helps.
Side note, there is a reason why I like the .177 in 12 FPE is you can literally get 1 fill and have over 1000+ shots in an impact or delta wolf. The FTP 900 12 FPE give about 175 shots plenty for real hunting. The FX at 12 FPE 580cc tank will give you 700 shots all day shooting and fun...
@@ShootingTargets727 yes it does thanks I'm getting the biggest tank I can't get lol thanks for the info buddy 👍
I have several tanks just like those and I can't seem to fill my gun more than maybe 3800 pds. Could you help me figure this out please?
And its a 4500 pd tank
Sorry catching up on comments this got by me. Well, hmm sometimes valves on tanks have max ouput pressure. Like paintball tanks will pump up to 4500 psi but when filling the paint ball marker it only ouputs air to 800psi. FYI check you guages to make sure everything is all good. Thanks for watching.
And people try to justify saying it’s cheaper to shoot air guns lol
Yea.......... well maybe some lol.... red ryder...
Lead is cheaper than brass
@@drywallman1986 Yes, but with all the air gunner's additiional accouterment (compressor, hoses, fittings, this and that tiddlelywink, etc.), in the early days, air gunning can be more expensive (in some situations). 😫
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MAN! You're paying $35-$40 per fill for a 98 cu. ft. carbon fiber tank? Remind me to never go to your area...
I have a dive shop I've been using for years which will fill my 98 (from around 2,500psi) to 310 bar (4,500psi) for $10!
yep, it use to be cheap but then people were using too much air so they kept increasing the price. Sadly at the end they were like hey this 98ft tank is killing our fills so we are going to make it painful for you to come here. It was a way of chasing business away. Also thanks for watching, sharing and the sub.
I'll pump lol
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