She kinda feels like the opposite of when symmetra was a support, since she was all utility and no healing, while illari has pretty much no utility for mainly healing.
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Can you try and mythbust, as to whether the AOE damage of Sunstruck is applied only to other target, or does the 120 damage applies to the person as well?
This hero has TWO abilities that I've always wanted in Overwatch: - A mercy healing stream that requires aim and heals faster. - A healing turret that requires tactical positioning rather than aim.
@@Gr0ot....No??? Furia has one ability that isn't really similar at all, other than being light-themed healing. That's it. That's where the similarities start and end.
@@brettwilson1357 🤷Ying's healing turret, grohk's healing beam, she even poses like Furia and a bunch of people mistook her for Furia because of it when she was initially teased
@@brettwilson1357 yings illusions r basically her turrets, and she beam heals like grohk with that one specific talent. otherwise she looks like senna and leona from lol got mixed together lol
That captive sun ultimate is definitely the most damage inducing one for any support. It's a little weird to feel like I need consider ulting as an opposing support to counter a healer ultimate. Dying to her feels a little like dying to Sojourn.
What's interesting is that this is the only support ultimate that is completely offensive. All the other support ultimates affects healing/health pool in some way.
@@toffi2390 The only supportive aspect of it is that it enables your team to kill people way quicker in a time frame with the debuff. I was surprised they didn’t make the ult have a secondary effect when it hits teammates like buff them up or heal somehow. But to be fair that would have made her ult completely broken unless they tuned the damage down. But its crazy seeing a support that has potential to teamwipe on their own in any circumstances, given the next closest thing is Valk which is nowhere near the same damage potential.
So what happens if she hits opponents with her ultimate and Echo who transforms into her hits the opponents with essentially same ultimate. Does it stack? Does it start the sun mark over?
Can you make a support healing heal-off? something like comparing who has the best burst heal for single target, sustained, whole team and what sources of damage they can out-heal (mainly so that new players learn not to target a DPS being pocketed)
@@welkin7321no I agree a lot I mean, sun power from some goddess with a sword primary thing?? her secondary is pretty much furia healing beam talent both can fly too 😂
The character seems pretty fun and balanced. Will have to see after obtaining the hero for playing. Ultimate seems like it could be comboed well. It's ironic how everyone just instantly comments when I say "balanced". Do better next time by reading the comment first. All you did was see me say balanced and took it out of context. I said "seems fun and balanced" not "It's balanced well"
@@meowingturtle9867 If you think having a a 3 second downtime on your healing if you accidentally overheat it isn't balanced I have no idea what you're on
@@sitruunamehuI'd say a bit underpowered on the damage. She needs either higher range or a bit more damage or quicker charge. If you don't have anyone to protect you, you will die. She plays midrange, that's why I say that. That's my opinion though
As someone who plays MOBAs (and misses when OW was much more of that style in terms of team-play), some of these new abilities SEEM amazing, haven't had the chance to play yet myself. Even if the new season/side content doesn't end up being the best, this new hero certainly seems like one of their high points so far.
Definitely not a high point, she is busted. The healing turret is crazy strong on defense, her weapon is pretty much equal to Mei's (just slightly weaker + Illari is tiny, her hit box is similar to Ana), her ultimate has auto-aim, etc.. I've seem matches were this character healed more than a Mercy and Kiriko, this is just not right, not balanced at all
@@RRRRRRRRR33she isnt necesarrily op asf like og roadhog lol but she def needs a slight nerf to her heals. If you don't have an Illari on your team it feels like a big handicap and tbh the main counters for her healing pylon/Ult aka Genji and sombra are easily countered back if you have Winston as a tank. Literally only need a Winston, Symetra, and Illari. If its payload on attack you'll almost never lose the pylon. Place everything on the payload and you have a mobile vehicle that has; shield, heals, and damage if anyone gets close enough to destroy her pylon. Plus you get pylon back every 7 sec so if shield breaks you place it behind the payload.
@@Theredmeep852 Yeah, there was worse examples in the past, day 1 Brigitte will forever be a traumatic event (and Jeff allowed that abomination to be a thing, tbh I will never understand why the community still give him a pass). Saying that, the character literally needs to be toned down at every level, it's basically the reverse of what happened with Lifeweaver (and he remains a very weird design, out of place in this chaotic 5v5 formula). Her heashot needs to be weaker, the pylon needs a nerf, the ultimate needs to be reworked. She should shoot those sun orbs at her own team, the explosion adds extra healing or something. It's baffling to me how the devs removed that special server... I forgot the name, people could test things early and give feedback, looking at the actual results of characters being released with no QA whatsoever, I guess Blizzard really needed those beta testers (paid consumers acting as testers, it's just wonderful, Overwatch is a wonder of the industry)
@@Theredmeep852 By the way, talking about Overwatch being a wonder, I just read that OW "2" became the most negatively reviewed game on Steam... alltime, lol crazy stuff, people are really embracing the changes
@@timce9220 of course I do, but I'm staying that's why the design is so confusing, ur not sure what it even is supposed to be. While literally the other overwatch character is full of OBVIOUS design inspirations
Also this is probably the first support ult i've seen that is just a dps ult. Hell, it's more offensive and less supportive than some dps ults (EMP, Blizzard, Infrasight). Can't think of any other support ults that you could unironically combo with a graviton surge or a nano
She’s honestly so much fun to play. Hard to say if she’s gonna get buffed or nerfed but we’ll see. I will say I have a hard time describing what she plays like. She’s like a weird combination of Bap, Sym, and Souj.
I think she is insanely strong in her use cases but I found that she’s quite difficult to play with a mobile team comp, especially mobile tanks like doom and ball because they’re usually never close enough to you for you to heal them. She also feels slightly odd because her weapon encourages you to play with a decent amount of range between you and the enemy but her heal encourages you to play close range
@hakseuu As a ball main. I like her, I'll mostly live off heals on the map anyway and the Healer shouldn't really be focusing on the ball. If I need a heal, I'll come back to you, the beam means I'll get healed really quickly, or the pylon means I can just whip past and get healed without the healer having to commit to me. But I can see how it would be hard with dive characters that aren't managing there cool downs or rotations.
@@hakseuu I agree about the weapon but it’s still crazy with the 2 hit headshot. My big problem is with her turret. It heals way too much for what it is. The frequency at which you get healed is way to much. I looked it up and it heals 40 health every 0.8 seconds, which means 50 health every second. That’s wild, that’s pretty much another healer on your team if it’s not destroyed. I don’t know in what way they would nerf it. Maybe lowering the healing frequency, lowering the amount or maybe put it on a timer like a sym tp. I do know it should 100% be destroyed if she dies and be on a long cool down. It has so much value and they gotta fix because it’s op as hell rn.
@@trav8787 she’s great but her turret is a big problem imo. Literally heals 50 a second, has 150 health, has infinite up time, and it won’t be destroyed if she dies. Its literally a 3rd healer. If they don’t fix it she’s got pubstomp every game and make her a must pick. Especially for CP and Escort maps. Her gun could use some tweaks but it’s not that bad.
So much fun🤗 I'm going to love having to dive the enemy team just to destroy her turret, and even better, I'm gonna love it whenever I'm on the enemy team, completely diff the Reinhart's HP, say "he's low! He's low" and two seconds later, he gets 240 HP back🤗 better yet, in 3 he gets 360🤗 assuming the turret isn't healing him 🤗and the best part- whenever I'm on her team as a dps, I'm never going to get healed bc she's gonna be dpsing all the time and babysitting tank🤗 seems like hell to play against as a tank and seems like hell to play with if theyre in your team
It's crazy how much of a DPS she is. Like except for her beam, every single one of her abilities are DPS abilities. From Soldier's biotic field, to a double jumb mobility thing, to her ult that is the only support ult that is purely selfish, to her railgun, and here lack of utility, she feels more like a dps that was moded to heal rather than a support hero. I really don't know how well her kit will fit into the meta when properly balanced, she has very good burst but her lack of long term output and utility will probably make her harder to fit than it seems.
I swear with a kit like this,she feels like she came from Paladins or something !The character design too! I got the same"I'm here to play my own game and nobody will stop me" vibe i got from some Paladins character . And i quite like it so far
why is "new" in quotations? kiriko - a new hero - is one of the most staple meta supports and lifeweaver - despite not being as strong - is still super fun and unique
I don’t know about fun though, she lacks flow between between her abilities. Can’t charge primary while healing, slow execution of almost every ability and honestly if you can’t eat her ult as dva cause it’s so bright and the hero Illari is glowing… Well just stop playing dva and go back to fortnite.
imma be competently be honest, Im TIRED of the overwatch devs listing to the Support community and giving all the new supports some type of broken kit as well of making the new SUPPORT (not dps character) have some ridicules damage with its weapon and ultimate. AND if the new Support character isn't absolutely broken the Support community throws a temper tantrum and attacks EVERYONE for it. SUPPORT characters should either give HEALING support or Damage support, Giving both types of support for a character makes the game unenjoyable for Tank, and DPS players.
Probably works like a symmetra turret, or torn turret where it stays up independent of their deaths. Edit: Cooldowns normally reset when something is destroyed while dead so that you can have it on respawn
hi karq, love the video. for the mythbusting, I was wondering if you could teleport the pylon through sym tp and if it retains momentum through the tp? Does the pylon target other deployables like turrets or bob?
@@the_clarinetster6568usually blizzard will release the hero gameplay trailer, origin stories, and ability breakdowns before the update for a new hero but this time they didn’t
Well we got so see her like shadow or whatever it was like a month ago and got to see her more yesterday when the battle pass trailer got released, but we haven’t seen much more of her
Nah she is definitely over tuned, insane dmg, insane healing (turret is literally a 3rd healer), insane ult and good/great survivability. She has literally everything except for range and invulnerability
@@dequasont1063 her ult isn’t really hard to deal with honestly, but lower tier players will have the hardest time since they don’t know how to counter things, she just gains ult wayyyy toooo fast
It's not a question but useful. Pylon interactions with push robot: - can't stuck on robot or the barricade - if you put it the way of the robot, it destroys it
Kinda Soujurn x Mercy, well rounded, actually Fun looking gameplay, doesn't seem overpowered since has pretty good amount of counters, tbh looks like one of my nee fav supports after Lucio, Kiriko and maybe Bap
worth mentioning her melee is a swing of her gun like a blade it has no gameplay differences from other melees but it makes melee kills way more satisfying
For those curious nerds like me and want to see some comparisons to some other healers, Illari using her full heal charge can heal roughly 360 health over 3 seconds. In that same time: Ana can heal ~281 (Not taking into account nade) Moira can heal 210 (Not taking into account orb) Kiriko can heal 390 (Not taking into account suzu) Baptiste can heal 233 (Assuming direct hits, taking into account burst) And Mercy can heal 165 Tossing in other abilities, in that 3 second timeframe: Illari can heal 510 (with her turret) Ana can heal ~481 (with nade, counting the initial healing) Moira can heal 405 (with orb latched on the whole time) Kiriko can heal 440 (with suzu's healing) Baptist can heal 313 (with burst, still assuming direct hits) And mercy is a loser still at 165 (I'm not calculating valk because it's an ult)
One tbing I havent seen you mention is that Outbursts distance is controlled by how far you hold the key/button. Stay still and tap it you dont go very high at all, but try holding the button down
They knocked it out of the park with Ilari. You can focus on your damage without sacrificing healing. The reason for this is her healing is very strong, but you spend little time focusing on it. Smart pylon locations let you throw it and forget it, while the healing beam heals crazy fast for a short time. This means you can do a ton of healing with big impact and still have plenty of time to pop off with well timed railgun headshots.
One little thing I noticed. It would be nice if she had extra damage boost on melee attack. Her gun is literally a sword! And when melee activated she swings with it. So it does make sense it should cause more dmg than if hit by a hand or other simple ways.
Through shields? Masters Reinhardt one trick and rein is so bad now haha. Looks like that wall heal thing can out heal a continuous rein swings. My boy rein is unplayable now
The obvious question is can you teleport the healing thing and how does Sym’s turrets and Lifeweaver’s tree and platform and Mei’s wall interact with it
with lifeweaver's platform, it lifts it up (when activated by an ally) regardless of placement order with tree of life, it destroys the pylon when placed on or within hitbox not sure about symm tp and mei wall yet
I have a few questions, not sure if they’ve all been asked. If she uses her ult while nano’ed or damage boost is active, the damage SHOULD be amplified when passing through enemies- but will the explosion damage deal extra damage? (So instead of the 120 explosion, If she is nano’ed, will it do 180?) Since her heal is a beam, like symmetra or zarya, can it be damage boosted? Or is it more of a mercy type thing where it heals at a flat rate? Since her turret fires projectiles, does nano or damage boost increase her healing? And If not, how about baptist window? If tracer gets hit by the ult, then takes the 75 needed to proc the explosion, if she was to use recall, will the recall not cleanse the ult? Or will it work the same as cleanses used in the other examples? Does lucio speed boost increase the speed she flys at in her ult? Can her turret be hacked? Does her ultimate explode through shields? (We know it passes through when initially cast, but once the explosion occurs, can you block off line of sight as rein, sigma, or brig to stop the explosion from hitting your teammates like a tracer pulse bomb?) Does the ultimate pass through lifeweavers tree of life and mei’s wall? Do abilities/ultimates that limit your movement stop you from being able to use your ult? (Sigma and zarya ults for example) If a player dies while they have the sun debuff from the ult, will their body explode and damage people around them? Or do they have to be alive? (For example, someone gets the sun debuff but then instant dies to a Cassidy high noon) Follow up to that. If an enemy echo duplicates, gets ulted by (new hero name), and dies while in ult, will she keep the debuff and outright die when she exits the ult? Will the Ultimate damage anything created by a player? (Hammond mines, symmetra turret, etc) Follow up with that question, can bob have the sun debuff or even torbs turret? Does a player have to take damage to their HEALTH, or just take any amount of damage to activate the 120 explosion from the ult? (If someone has sound barrier, will the ult pop if they take the damage required to their overhealth? Will it be considered “taking the damage” if they lose their overhealth over time through beat?) If a player is anti healed and has the lowest hp, will the turret heal them? Or will it heal the next available person until the anti heal ends? Easy content lets gooooooo
Playing against her in quickplay right now and these people are killing more as her than the DPS are. Maybe as people learn her abilities better it'll be toned down, though.
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Mythbister questions : - can the suopr detonation be triggered by self damage (pharah rocket, soldier LX etc) - what happens if you place the turret on destroyable objects (mei wall, petra´s ground etc) ? does it just drop off or is it destroyed ? - can you heal multiple teammates at a time with the beam ? - can the jump be used when in a grav or other CC (gravitic flux ...) ? I´m sure it canot save you, but can you atleast use it to do damage and knock enemies - of you shoot the super on the ground, does the debuff applie through shields ? - if 2 allies have the same amount of HP, which one does the turret choose to heal ? -does the turret projectile follow the teammate (and does it stops when hitting a wall or reachig lax range) such as a dashing gen
Illari’s pilar have strange DEPLOYMENT BUG, when it can not open upon deployment at strange angle- so it wont open and wont heal. Can you look into that? It probably have something to do with surroundings geometry. May be same as sombra bug with indestructible translocator. It is true, that you can re-install pillar again, but if it is happening in the middle of fight, it can cost you the fight. So i think it is important to look into it.
I think she's going to be a very strong and popular ladder pick tbh, not OP but definitely one of the better supports, particularly with regards to her survivability. But I don't see her getting much pro play as she offers little to no utility. You look at Lucio's speed, Ana's sleep and anti-nade, Brig's shield and whipshot, zen's discord, Kiriko's cleanse, Bap's immort etc etc etc. Ilari doesn't really have anything comparable. She offers healing, and she offers the ability to fend for herself with her damage and mobility.
So much healing and having the ability to heal with turret while fighting is kinda fun. Her gun deals a shit ton of damage but Ult doesn’t seem too strong
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She kinda feels like the opposite of when symmetra was a support, since she was all utility and no healing, while illari has pretty much no utility for mainly healing.
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Can you try and mythbust, as to whether the AOE damage of Sunstruck is applied only to other target, or does the 120 damage applies to the person as well?
This hero has TWO abilities that I've always wanted in Overwatch:
- A mercy healing stream that requires aim and heals faster.
- A healing turret that requires tactical positioning rather than aim.
It’s just Furia and a couple others from Paladins. She isn’t that unique.
@@Gr0otwhoa overwatch and paladins copying eachother 🤯
@@Gr0ot....No??? Furia has one ability that isn't really similar at all, other than being light-themed healing. That's it. That's where the similarities start and end.
@@brettwilson1357 🤷Ying's healing turret, grohk's healing beam, she even poses like Furia and a bunch of people mistook her for Furia because of it when she was initially teased
@@brettwilson1357 yings illusions r basically her turrets, and she beam heals like grohk with that one specific talent. otherwise she looks like senna and leona from lol got mixed together lol
FINALLY. A new support that doesn't invovle invunerability as an ability. Seems like a damn miracle
I dont recall life weaver being invulnerable lol
@@anthonyb7214 His grasp makes the teammate he is grabbing invulnerable until they reach him, so even he has some involvement of invulnerability
@@whoag3152 oh yes i see, i was aware of that but didn't realise the original commenter also meant giving invulnerability, my error
@@anthonyb7214 His grab makes his teammates invunerable for the duration.
Moira, Baptiste, Kiriko, Lifeweaver
The ult is gonna be awesome to use with a sombra ult
And Zaryas ult
Love that blizzard's "shadow buffing" already annoying heroes 😊
And with a dash of Nano! Lol😅
Imagine this with jq ult
Gonna be disgusting 😂
That captive sun ultimate is definitely the most damage inducing one for any support. It's a little weird to feel like I need consider ulting as an opposing support to counter a healer ultimate. Dying to her feels a little like dying to Sojourn.
It’s like Nano in its usefulness, but it doesn’t rely as much on your teammate being competent
What's interesting is that this is the only support ultimate that is completely offensive. All the other support ultimates affects healing/health pool in some way.
@@toffi2390 The only supportive aspect of it is that it enables your team to kill people way quicker in a time frame with the debuff. I was surprised they didn’t make the ult have a secondary effect when it hits teammates like buff them up or heal somehow. But to be fair that would have made her ult completely broken unless they tuned the damage down.
But its crazy seeing a support that has potential to teamwipe on their own in any circumstances, given the next closest thing is Valk which is nowhere near the same damage potential.
it's a skill based ult at the least. having to land them, and then further having to follow up with the ult to get its full value
I like how every game that involves a light based character always ends up having some kind of skill that marks an enemy.
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So what happens if she hits opponents with her ultimate and Echo who transforms into her hits the opponents with essentially same ultimate. Does it stack? Does it start the sun mark over?
It seems like the sunstruck thing might be a status effect. Could be wrong tho.
@@questionablelifechoices7501it is.
@@welkin7321couldn't Echo transform into Illari if there's one on the enemy team as well?
@@welkin7321 this dude did not think that through
@@welkin7321silly billy
"that's really small, like you" ouch karQ was not expecting the smoke in the ability breakdown
Can you make a support healing heal-off? something like comparing who has the best burst heal for single target, sustained, whole team and what sources of damage they can out-heal (mainly so that new players learn not to target a DPS being pocketed)
i would love this video so people could finally stop calling mercy a main healer despite being outhealed by most of the support cast
These are simple numbers you can look up
@@possumwithacowboyhat5140we can look up illari’s abilities too yet she has a video…
Refreshed at the perfect time. So eager for this analysis/breakdown
Difficult to think the same team came up with lifeweaver's clunkyness and illari's smoothness
Literally
She's a mere ripof from Furya in Paladins.
@@artmanrom she seems really different - the only thing thats similar is the primary fire. weird comparison
@@welkin7321no I agree a lot I mean, sun power from some goddess with a sword primary thing?? her secondary is pretty much furia healing beam talent both can fly too 😂
@@welkin7321only in design i think they're similar but her abilities are actually alot like heal staff grohk
Character looks fun. Doesn't look too frustrating, but that healing might need to be tuned down
I bet this hero has most people too DPS focused and healing numbers won't be very high
@@Noosh_ Like a dps moira?
@@Noosh_more like bap
The 3 second heal compensates for the high heal output
@@dannyboi024more like a Kiri with slower rate but hitscan
i was expecting the melee gonna do more damage or something, but still hero looks very fun
same here :/ since it's a whole sword & all
The character seems pretty fun and balanced. Will have to see after obtaining the hero for playing. Ultimate seems like it could be comboed well.
It's ironic how everyone just instantly comments when I say "balanced". Do better next time by reading the comment first. All you did was see me say balanced and took it out of context. I said "seems fun and balanced" not "It's balanced well"
lmao yeah balanced
The healing beam seems op though
@@meowingturtle9867 If you think having a a 3 second downtime on your healing if you accidentally overheat it isn't balanced I have no idea what you're on
@@sitruunamehuI'd say a bit underpowered on the damage. She needs either higher range or a bit more damage or quicker charge. If you don't have anyone to protect you, you will die. She plays midrange, that's why I say that. That's my opinion though
@@ΔημητρηςΑντωνιου-μ2λyeah let's make her a dps
As someone who plays MOBAs (and misses when OW was much more of that style in terms of team-play), some of these new abilities SEEM amazing, haven't had the chance to play yet myself. Even if the new season/side content doesn't end up being the best, this new hero certainly seems like one of their high points so far.
Definitely not a high point, she is busted. The healing turret is crazy strong on defense, her weapon is pretty much equal to Mei's (just slightly weaker + Illari is tiny, her hit box is similar to Ana), her ultimate has auto-aim, etc.. I've seem matches were this character healed more than a Mercy and Kiriko, this is just not right, not balanced at all
@@RRRRRRRRR33she isnt necesarrily op asf like og roadhog lol but she def needs a slight nerf to her heals. If you don't have an Illari on your team it feels like a big handicap and tbh the main counters for her healing pylon/Ult aka Genji and sombra are easily countered back if you have Winston as a tank. Literally only need a Winston, Symetra, and Illari. If its payload on attack you'll almost never lose the pylon. Place everything on the payload and you have a mobile vehicle that has; shield, heals, and damage if anyone gets close enough to destroy her pylon. Plus you get pylon back every 7 sec so if shield breaks you place it behind the payload.
@@Theredmeep852 Yeah, there was worse examples in the past, day 1 Brigitte will forever be a traumatic event (and Jeff allowed that abomination to be a thing, tbh I will never understand why the community still give him a pass). Saying that, the character literally needs to be toned down at every level, it's basically the reverse of what happened with Lifeweaver (and he remains a very weird design, out of place in this chaotic 5v5 formula). Her heashot needs to be weaker, the pylon needs a nerf, the ultimate needs to be reworked. She should shoot those sun orbs at her own team, the explosion adds extra healing or something. It's baffling to me how the devs removed that special server... I forgot the name, people could test things early and give feedback, looking at the actual results of characters being released with no QA whatsoever, I guess Blizzard really needed those beta testers (paid consumers acting as testers, it's just wonderful, Overwatch is a wonder of the industry)
@@Theredmeep852 By the way, talking about Overwatch being a wonder, I just read that OW "2" became the most negatively reviewed game on Steam... alltime, lol crazy stuff, people are really embracing the changes
@@RRRRRRRRR33 I highly doubt that with how many players there are and how popular competitive gameplay is and with the new story thats coming out
There needs to be a Spider-man 2 Doc Ock reference in her quotes. "The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand."
Ability-wise, she looks like the best designed character in Overwatch in a long time
But Ramatra tho
@@Ren_Ca he is amazing, but is his design even based on? Can't figure it out
*what
@@camilovonhresvelg3262does the design have to be based on something??? Do you know what an original character/idea is
@@timce9220 of course I do, but I'm staying that's why the design is so confusing, ur not sure what it even is supposed to be. While literally the other overwatch character is full of OBVIOUS design inspirations
I had three people ult yesterday and there was so much visual clutter I had no idea what was going on.
I've said I wanted Sym to go back to Support with Healing turrents like 2 years ago. Glad they actualized this idea into something else.
Sym was a support in the last OW1 experimental patch.
@@destructo3457 All i wanted was just healing turrents, shield gen and spawn teleporters.
Also this is probably the first support ult i've seen that is just a dps ult. Hell, it's more offensive and less supportive than some dps ults (EMP, Blizzard, Infrasight). Can't think of any other support ults that you could unironically combo with a graviton surge or a nano
I'm so happy with Illari. Her design, visuals, abilities, i love all of them. I haven't felt so excited for a support since ana in 2016 lol
Just gonna say that Illari has my favorite quick melee animation in the game
same, it feels so satisfying to use.
it is the same as soldiers, hitting with the weapon.
@@toffi2390 Yeah but Soldier doesn't swing his gun at you like a sword
Great breakdown! Does healing pylon travel through Symmetra's teleporter?
It does
1:06 I felt personally attacked.
Did this man just say the word SUPPORT?!?!?!!!!!
Damn….that “like you” hit hard outta nowhere…..
She’s honestly so much fun to play. Hard to say if she’s gonna get buffed or nerfed but we’ll see. I will say I have a hard time describing what she plays like. She’s like a weird combination of Bap, Sym, and Souj.
Same
I think she's like a weird combo of souj and sym
I think she is insanely strong in her use cases but I found that she’s quite difficult to play with a mobile team comp, especially mobile tanks like doom and ball because they’re usually never close enough to you for you to heal them. She also feels slightly odd because her weapon encourages you to play with a decent amount of range between you and the enemy but her heal encourages you to play close range
@hakseuu As a ball main. I like her, I'll mostly live off heals on the map anyway and the Healer shouldn't really be focusing on the ball. If I need a heal, I'll come back to you, the beam means I'll get healed really quickly, or the pylon means I can just whip past and get healed without the healer having to commit to me. But I can see how it would be hard with dive characters that aren't managing there cool downs or rotations.
@@hakseuu I agree about the weapon but it’s still crazy with the 2 hit headshot. My big problem is with her turret. It heals way too much for what it is. The frequency at which you get healed is way to much. I looked it up and it heals 40 health every 0.8 seconds, which means 50 health every second. That’s wild, that’s pretty much another healer on your team if it’s not destroyed. I don’t know in what way they would nerf it. Maybe lowering the healing frequency, lowering the amount or maybe put it on a timer like a sym tp. I do know it should 100% be destroyed if she dies and be on a long cool down. It has so much value and they gotta fix because it’s op as hell rn.
@@trav8787 she’s great but her turret is a big problem imo. Literally heals 50 a second, has 150 health, has infinite up time, and it won’t be destroyed if she dies. Its literally a 3rd healer. If they don’t fix it she’s got pubstomp every game and make her a must pick. Especially for CP and Escort maps. Her gun could use some tweaks but it’s not that bad.
seems like soldier 76 but instead of a pulse rifle you get a sun sniper and more healing abilities
This character looks so fun wtf I’m so excited
So much fun🤗 I'm going to love having to dive the enemy team just to destroy her turret, and even better, I'm gonna love it whenever I'm on the enemy team, completely diff the Reinhart's HP, say "he's low! He's low" and two seconds later, he gets 240 HP back🤗 better yet, in 3 he gets 360🤗 assuming the turret isn't healing him 🤗and the best part- whenever I'm on her team as a dps, I'm never going to get healed bc she's gonna be dpsing all the time and babysitting tank🤗 seems like hell to play against as a tank and seems like hell to play with if theyre in your team
@@eventhoughimaloserandavirg3279 skill issue 😎
@@FullMetalEdits +1
@@eventhoughimaloserandavirg3279silll issue
@@eventhoughimaloserandavirg3279kill the healers then? also you act like there isnt another healer that can heal you
It's crazy how much of a DPS she is. Like except for her beam, every single one of her abilities are DPS abilities. From Soldier's biotic field, to a double jumb mobility thing, to her ult that is the only support ult that is purely selfish, to her railgun, and here lack of utility, she feels more like a dps that was moded to heal rather than a support hero. I really don't know how well her kit will fit into the meta when properly balanced, she has very good burst but her lack of long term output and utility will probably make her harder to fit than it seems.
Does Illari’s ultimate do more damage when it goes through amplification matrix?
This guy asking the real questions
Prob but since the status effect does most of the dmg I don't think it will be that effective than just using normal full charged fire
I don’t think the solar effect will increase since its similar to Ashe’s dynamite effect.
i love how clean and easy to digest this video is but at the same time is very detailed with clear visual demonstrations! thank you!!
I swear with a kit like this,she feels like she came from Paladins or something !The character design too! I got the same"I'm here to play my own game and nobody will stop me" vibe i got from some Paladins character . And i quite like it so far
Yeah I don't know why people describe it as a bad thing. If it's cool and fun then why complain lol
As a support main, this is the only “new” hero I could see myself consistently playing
why is “new” in quotations?
Zen? Ana? Baptise? Kirko?
they mean the "I play a dps but call it support" main
Baptiste is better
why is "new" in quotations? kiriko - a new hero - is one of the most staple meta supports and lifeweaver - despite not being as strong - is still super fun and unique
As a Game Designer, this hero seems so well designed. Fun to make, fun to play!
I don’t know about fun though, she lacks flow between between her abilities. Can’t charge primary while healing, slow execution of almost every ability and honestly if you can’t eat her ult as dva cause it’s so bright and the hero Illari is glowing… Well just stop playing dva and go back to fortnite.
as a game designer, this character looks like a balancing nightmare
seems dull to me
@@p6v665design and balance is not the same
@@El_chara balance and design go hand in hand goofball
Did he just call me small?
looks high skill high reward. excited to try her out
imma be competently be honest, Im TIRED of the overwatch devs listing to the Support community and giving all the new supports some type of broken kit as well of making the new SUPPORT (not dps character) have some ridicules damage with its weapon and ultimate. AND if the new Support character isn't absolutely broken the Support community throws a temper tantrum and attacks EVERYONE for it. SUPPORT characters should either give HEALING support or Damage support, Giving both types of support for a character makes the game unenjoyable for Tank, and DPS players.
Yep I agree
What happens to the Healing Pylon if Illari is killed? If it stays while shes dead, how does the cooldown work if it's destroyed and she respawns?
Probably works like a symmetra turret, or torn turret where it stays up independent of their deaths.
Edit: Cooldowns normally reset when something is destroyed while dead so that you can have it on respawn
It stays when she dies. If someone breaks it, it's a long cooldown. If she dismantled it herself, you get no cooldown
1:08 "...like you."
So they made a dps then changed her kit forcefully and made her support?
This character reminds me of Senna from League of Legends.
Question/Mythbuster: can the healing pylon be placed on a payload or push bot/wall?
On a payload it can be placed but not so sure about the bot/wall
Can you test if any illari ult combos with another ult can kill through: zen, lucio, or weaver ults?
hi karq, love the video. for the mythbusting, I was wondering if you could teleport the pylon through sym tp and if it retains momentum through the tp? Does the pylon target other deployables like turrets or bob?
I have a strong feeling turrets don’t get healed. Which is a shame. Would be cool if supports could heal those like they can with BOB
If you play Horizon Forbidden West her ult is hella familiar
Tbh she looks very cool for a support im loving what she has these are very cool abilities and cant wait to test her
Overwatch make a balanced support challenge (level impossible)
She looks awesome!! I wonder if an enemy has sunstruck and dies, will it still detonate if it took less than 90 damage to kill them?
Yes
i’m in love with her already omg
Can you bodyblock a teammate and "steal" their turret healing projectile?
Thanks for the breakdown KarQ, always tuning in!
How have I never heard of her until this???
Bc they have a confidentiality agreement w/ overwatch n stuff until the hero has been released
@@the_clarinetster6568usually blizzard will release the hero gameplay trailer, origin stories, and ability breakdowns before the update for a new hero but this time they didn’t
Well we got so see her like shadow or whatever it was like a month ago and got to see her more yesterday when the battle pass trailer got released, but we haven’t seen much more of her
The ult will definately see some changes in future patches.
I feel like this is perfectly balanced an looks rly fun
she not balanced she definitely getting nerfed
Nah she is definitely over tuned, insane dmg, insane healing (turret is literally a 3rd healer), insane ult and good/great survivability. She has literally everything except for range and invulnerability
@@dequasont1063 her ult isn’t really hard to deal with honestly, but lower tier players will have the hardest time since they don’t know how to counter things, she just gains ult wayyyy toooo fast
@@dequasont1063 her damage is crazy, maybe it should be 3 head shots to kill with no armor
It's not a question but useful. Pylon interactions with push robot:
- can't stuck on robot or the barricade
- if you put it the way of the robot, it destroys it
Can Illari take damage from the ult explosion?
Pls she's really perfect, she doesn't even look like an Overwatch hero
She’s super fun to play! Just played a game
"That's really small... like you"
I did not wake up today expecting to be roasted by KarQ xD
Kinda Soujurn x Mercy, well rounded, actually Fun looking gameplay, doesn't seem overpowered since has pretty good amount of counters, tbh looks like one of my nee fav supports after Lucio, Kiriko and maybe Bap
worth mentioning her melee is a swing of her gun like a blade
it has no gameplay differences from other melees but it makes melee kills way more satisfying
Its op it will have a nerf in the first week
The right click seems insane
What happens if the pylon is placed on lifeweavers petal and it falls?
That ult does not fit a support hero
1:07 Casually roasting everyone 😢
Support hero that can two-shot dps. Love to see it
zen
@@lemur1949kiriko lol
Baptiste
For those curious nerds like me and want to see some comparisons to some other healers, Illari using her full heal charge can heal roughly 360 health over 3 seconds. In that same time:
Ana can heal ~281 (Not taking into account nade)
Moira can heal 210 (Not taking into account orb)
Kiriko can heal 390 (Not taking into account suzu)
Baptiste can heal 233 (Assuming direct hits, taking into account burst)
And Mercy can heal 165
Tossing in other abilities, in that 3 second timeframe:
Illari can heal 510 (with her turret)
Ana can heal ~481 (with nade, counting the initial healing)
Moira can heal 405 (with orb latched on the whole time)
Kiriko can heal 440 (with suzu's healing)
Baptist can heal 313 (with burst, still assuming direct hits)
And mercy is a loser still at 165 (I'm not calculating valk because it's an ult)
1:06 “That’s really small… like you” bro didn’t have to attack me like that 😭
1:06 im literally watching this vid between sets at the gym and you hit me with this 😅
W editor with the unfathomed force music choice
"that's really small. like you." hit me hard. That was a personal attack 💔😭
One tbing I havent seen you mention is that Outbursts distance is controlled by how far you hold the key/button. Stay still and tap it you dont go very high at all, but try holding the button down
Karq coming in clutch with this
"That's really small... like you." That was so uncalled for.
At first I was confused about her ultimate but I understand now. Very helpful video 👍
They knocked it out of the park with Ilari. You can focus on your damage without sacrificing healing. The reason for this is her healing is very strong, but you spend little time focusing on it. Smart pylon locations let you throw it and forget it, while the healing beam heals crazy fast for a short time. This means you can do a ton of healing with big impact and still have plenty of time to pop off with well timed railgun headshots.
One little thing I noticed. It would be nice if she had extra damage boost on melee attack. Her gun is literally a sword! And when melee activated she swings with it. So it does make sense it should cause more dmg than if hit by a hand or other simple ways.
Through shields? Masters Reinhardt one trick and rein is so bad now haha. Looks like that wall heal thing can out heal a continuous rein swings. My boy rein is unplayable now
I wonder if Illari's turrets can be destroyed by Symmetra's turrets?
And a little mythbuster: can you place pylon on life weaver util (mainly pad)
Wonder if the pylon can shoot through the petal platform
The obvious question is can you teleport the healing thing and how does Sym’s turrets and Lifeweaver’s tree and platform and Mei’s wall interact with it
with lifeweaver's platform, it lifts it up (when activated by an ally) regardless of placement order
with tree of life, it destroys the pylon when placed on or within hitbox
not sure about symm tp and mei wall yet
0:00 AYO IS THAT “UNFATHOMED FORCE” I HEAR?! BASED
I’d like to see how the ult works against doomfist ult and doomfist block
Thank you for the great explanation. I didn't get it until now.
mythbuster question She can stick her heal turret thing to the push robot, the thing the robot pushes, the payload and torb turret
I have a few questions, not sure if they’ve all been asked.
If she uses her ult while nano’ed or damage boost is active, the damage SHOULD be amplified when passing through enemies- but will the explosion damage deal extra damage? (So instead of the 120 explosion, If she is nano’ed, will it do 180?)
Since her heal is a beam, like symmetra or zarya, can it be damage boosted? Or is it more of a mercy type thing where it heals at a flat rate?
Since her turret fires projectiles, does nano or damage boost increase her healing? And If not, how about baptist window?
If tracer gets hit by the ult, then takes the 75 needed to proc the explosion, if she was to use recall, will the recall not cleanse the ult? Or will it work the same as cleanses used in the other examples?
Does lucio speed boost increase the speed she flys at in her ult?
Can her turret be hacked?
Does her ultimate explode through shields? (We know it passes through when initially cast, but once the explosion occurs, can you block off line of sight as rein, sigma, or brig to stop the explosion from hitting your teammates like a tracer pulse bomb?)
Does the ultimate pass through lifeweavers tree of life and mei’s wall?
Do abilities/ultimates that limit your movement stop you from being able to use your ult? (Sigma and zarya ults for example)
If a player dies while they have the sun debuff from the ult, will their body explode and damage people around them? Or do they have to be alive? (For example, someone gets the sun debuff but then instant dies to a Cassidy high noon)
Follow up to that. If an enemy echo duplicates, gets ulted by (new hero name), and dies while in ult, will she keep the debuff and outright die when she exits the ult?
Will the Ultimate damage anything created by a player? (Hammond mines, symmetra turret, etc)
Follow up with that question, can bob have the sun debuff or even torbs turret?
Does a player have to take damage to their HEALTH, or just take any amount of damage to activate the 120 explosion from the ult? (If someone has sound barrier, will the ult pop if they take the damage required to their overhealth? Will it be considered “taking the damage” if they lose their overhealth over time through beat?)
If a player is anti healed and has the lowest hp, will the turret heal them? Or will it heal the next available person until the anti heal ends?
Easy content lets gooooooo
Hey Karq when you do a myth busters video of Illari can you go over her settings and what you run/recommend to enable?
What’s with overwatch and their obsession with making support heroes who are just DPS with healing abilities
Playing against her in quickplay right now and these people are killing more as her than the DPS are. Maybe as people learn her abilities better it'll be toned down, though.
guys any1 experiencing an issue with CP rewards? At the end of season 5 I was platinum in Tank, Damage, support but I only received a 1000 CP although it’s supposed to be 800 for platinum for each role. And in mystery heroes i was diamond but didn’t receive ANY CP. And in open queue I was diamond but didn’t receive anything. am I missing anything here ???
1:06 "That's really small... like you." bruh what did we do to deserve the stray lol
"That's really small. Like you."
Bruh you aint gotta be callin us out like that, chill
1:05 bro why you firing shots at me I'm just watching the video 😭
Mythbister questions :
- can the suopr detonation be triggered by self damage (pharah rocket, soldier LX etc)
- what happens if you place the turret on destroyable objects (mei wall, petra´s ground etc) ? does it just drop off or is it destroyed ?
- can you heal multiple teammates at a time with the beam ?
- can the jump be used when in a grav or other CC (gravitic flux ...) ? I´m sure it canot save you, but can you atleast use it to do damage and knock enemies
- of you shoot the super on the ground, does the debuff applie through shields ?
- if 2 allies have the same amount of HP, which one does the turret choose to heal ?
-does the turret projectile follow the teammate (and does it stops when hitting a wall or reachig lax range) such as a dashing gen
Illari’s pilar have strange DEPLOYMENT BUG, when it can not open upon deployment at strange angle- so it wont open and wont heal. Can you look into that? It probably have something to do with surroundings geometry. May be same as sombra bug with indestructible translocator.
It is true, that you can re-install pillar again, but if it is happening in the middle of fight, it can cost you the fight. So i think it is important to look into it.
What is the music? It sounds a lot like Trails of Cold Steel, I wondered if it was that
Close. It's Unfathomed Force from Trails to Azure
"Thats really small, like you"
Bro whyd i catch a stray 😂
Does illlari's ultimate gets a damage buff after going through baptiste's amplification matrix?
I think she's going to be a very strong and popular ladder pick tbh, not OP but definitely one of the better supports, particularly with regards to her survivability. But I don't see her getting much pro play as she offers little to no utility. You look at Lucio's speed, Ana's sleep and anti-nade, Brig's shield and whipshot, zen's discord, Kiriko's cleanse, Bap's immort etc etc etc. Ilari doesn't really have anything comparable. She offers healing, and she offers the ability to fend for herself with her damage and mobility.
So much healing and having the ability to heal with turret while fighting is kinda fun. Her gun deals a shit ton of damage but Ult doesn’t seem too strong