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Yeah a new Agincourt video would be great! I've also been super interested in how the view of historical "mental illness" has changed over my lifetime. Obviously it's a tricky subject to tackle for so many reasons, but even with in the very restricted area of 'not projecting modern preconceptions onto historical events' i think there are so many fascinating issues and possible contradictions.
As someone else has commented somewhere, the best part about this movie is they got a Frenchman to play an Englishman and an Englishman to play a Frenchman 😂
@@JohnSmith-sb2fpTo be fair, all the actors in this movie are great, and for the most part the acting in the movie is great. There's some script issues, but like, it's Shakespeare 😂
Henry V was the first English King since the Norman conquest who made English the language of government. English may have even been his first language, considering he used it in personal correspondence, it's hard to say. But the idea that French nobility in the 15th cetury would ever even know how to speak English in the first place, let alone speak it to an enemy (who speaks French - all English nobility spoke French until the 16th century or so) is absurd. Only 50 years or so before Henry V's reign, it was deemed unlordly for a noble to speak English. There's actually a record of Edward I addressing his men in English while on crusade around 1270, and we know it was strange because the record basically says "the King actually spoke English, that was weird."
That's anti-English propaganda. King John spoke English often and he even signed the letter by Bishop Hugh of Conventry stating only men that can speak English can hold power in England. King John taught his son how to speak English too and when his son was elected king of Germany, Mathew Paris said in a chronicle "Now that Richard de Cornwall has been elected King of the Romans, he will have no trouble learning their language (German) as he already speaks English". Edward I could also speak English and said in parliament "The French wish to destroy our English tongue, a plot I trust god will forbid".
@@EnglandVersus I mentioned Edward I, but it proves my point - the King of England actually using English was a rare enough event that we have pretty good documentation of every time it happened. We know at least some of the Plantagenet/Lancaster kings COULD speak English, they just often didn't, at least in public.
Mate im sorry but im going to be pedantic the king henry v with Laurence Olivier was filmed before the end of ww2 because the war ended in 1945 not 1944.
I'm not sure that pictures are an appropriate source on how battles were fought. In paintings "visor up" can simply mean showing the person's face for identifications reasons, who is who in the picture (otherwise it would need name tags on everyone). I studied classical archaeology and numismatics, and in both fields we learn that any picture is more of a communication device targeted at contemporary audience than a report for generations to come. It is more about representation and telling the story from the perspective of the person who ordered the picture, than a faithful account on anything. This can be extended to the medieval sources as well, high illiteracy rates made it necessary to convey messages through pictures.
Yeah that it is a great point! Now that you've said it, it seems so bleeding obvious because that is almost the exact same reason hollywood continuously, and unrealistically, insists on showing the actors faces! Obviously there are different underlying realities (like celebrity status leading to more bums on movie theatre seats) but basically it's all about easy identification of key players, and humans are hard-wired with strong facial recognition.
they would probably have visors up while away on some hill overlooking the battlefield to be able to command the troops but once you get into archer range and melee its most likely they would just always have visors down
The question I have about that is, would not visual field be improved with visors up? A narrow slit of vision isn't going to help as much for seeing the field of melee, and from where an enemy thrust is likely to come? I am no armor expert - but would this indicate that sometimes it would be most practical to fight with visors up, especially in melees where one is contending with multiple opponents?
@tanikokishimoto1604 I didn't discuss that part because I have no expertise. Metatron was talking about iconographic evidence for it, I talked only about that.
@ it does help with vision pulling it up but in return it opens up a weak spot for ur opponent to exploit, knights are rich to begin with and not supposed to fight alone, so its not really common for them to fight all alone i gues, tho it might be useful in some situations to pull it up
You say respect for Hotspur, but his eagerness to rush into battle was what lost him the battle of Shrewsbury which was the beginning of the end of Owain Glyn Dwr's rebellion. If he had waited for the rest of the Welsh army to join, they quite possibly would have won.
Movie is still pretty great so I would say it might be good to not always be accurate; having said a monkey paw would curl and we would get something terribly inaccurate.
Hey Metatron! Awesome video as always! At about 12:45 you`re arguing about the duelling with visor up because there are several depictions/ iconography with visor up and therefore a lot of real duells were probably fought that way as a choice of the fighters- I was just wondering if in the depictions they were just fighting visor up so the viewer cought more easily see who the combatants were, so maybe it was just a common artistic choice? I know not all duells were fought til death and often just until the first blood spilled, but with visor up wouldn`t there be ALOT more of risk to die?
He mentions in other videos that what we consider risks, for a medieval person might be completely different, or the risk of injury or death might be worth the advantage.
@@totallynuts7595I still don't agree with that. Someone else pointed out that they probably fought visor fown and it was only depicted this way for artistic purposes (much like modern movies where main characters fight without helmets)
@@mr.angry2363 What's the difference? Sorry, I'm not history expert but I find these entertaining and I want to know more. Welsh weren't mixed with English yet in that time?
You and so many people completely miss the point of this movie. Its not meant to be historically accurate. Its a retelling and reinterpretation of Shakespeares play which is also not accurate. Its meant to be fictional while pulling from a historical fictional play, not a documentary. Analyzing it from a historical perspective is almost meaningless unless its comparing it to the play.
Regarding the Napoleonic Cuirass. If you make a episode two about it you might want to talk to an reenactor of the period. (I would recomend the UA-camr Brandon Fischiella. He is an reenactor and Public Historian with quite a lot of videos on warfare, mainly in the period 1700-1815, but the occasional video covers later conflicts.
Yes I follow Brandon, great channel. He has done a lot of illuminating videos on WW1 recently, they are fascinating even if that isn't your usual period of interest.
Actually, Henry V was shot in 1944. For their chain they used cable disks due to war related metals shortage. I.e. they cut rubber cables into disks, painted them and stitched them together. And they still got their armor to look very accurate, and much more accurate than almost every other production of medieval era movies since. The film is widely lauded for its props, and critized for one feature: They show cranes lifting the French knights into their saddles. This is where the myth of knights needing cranes to mount their horses comes from.
Wish they elaborated the situation with percy hotspur and the battle of shrewsbury. God there is something that chills my bones when i think about it ,, it almost takes me back to a memory that i didnt know existed .
@09:05 Not even right *after* World War II: *DURING* World War II, in 1944, while Great Britain was being constantly ravaged by air raids (which is why the film was shot in Ireland).
What's totally missing from this depiction of Agincourt is Henry V ordering the execution of all noblemen that were captured (except the high-noble leadership VIPs he selected for ransom), despite the angry protests of his men, because the prisoners were so numerous that Henry was afraid he would never be able to keep them under control. The light infantrymen and skirmishers actively went in the mud to finish off the fallen French knights with their knives.
09:00 is not Laurence Olivier in Henry V, thats reenactors. Olivier has pretty much a identical armour but his helmet is bit different and he also wore the chain of SS.
Yes! Absolutely do another Agincourt! This was fun! I loved this movie, even with the many historical inaccuracies. Now, I learned about the inaccuracies within the armor.
The return of the king Did you see the version of Macbeth with Michael Fassbender? I'm not sure if Shakespeare is up your alley, but I'm curious what you think about their weapons and armor
@ 3:17 i love these historical "nicknames" because i have never, ever met or heard of anyone who was known by such an odd, and especially long, nickname. Tbh "hotspurs" is probably the closest to a real sounding nicknane that i could actually imagine the other soldiers / officers regularly using, but usually they are something very unnatural sounding that i can only ever imagine being used one time as the punchline to a joke (either good or ill)
I think it could have been a mix of both, boosted morale becsuse the french prince rejected the offer but also lessened morale/agitation from being forced to fight where they were outmatched. But thet ended up winning, so the british morale was boosted after the battle regardless.
As always good video, but i think that the picture shown isnt out of henry v. by laurence olivier which also was shot IN the second world war, as far as i know, just in addition. 👍
About the nickname Hotspur, the motto of the Perry's was Esperance, ie Hope. And the similar word eperon is the French for spur. Not such a great leap to call the hot tempered Harry Percy Hot spur, as he yelled Eperance!
@ No there is a meaning difference. Google Translate will tell you it's hope. But it's not. Expectations are less intense than hopes and more careful, often more rational. If your hopes are crushed, it's certainly more painful than expectations. That's what the semantic difference is. We have this nuance in french.
Visor up in paintings = visor up in movies; in my opinion it was to identify the duelists in the paintings as for their viewer to understand whose who. Also about the Dauphin rejecting the duel = drop in French morale/boost in English morale; different ideals back then, also chivalry above all in highly moralistic societies, would support the interpretation. Obviously there were realists in the mix but overall, the idea of rejecting a duel was a "social faux pas".
Yeah, in fact what Metatron says elsewhere (12:48) "it is important to not get carried away & over correct" probably applies to the armour too. I'm not saying they did this, but it would be counter-productive to do something (armour or weapons or anything really) that was technically realistic, but that "looked" or felt unrealistic to 90% of the audience (who weren't knowledgeable in that area)
Generally it's assumed that the archers at Agincourt targeted the horses (and no archers ever in the entirety of humanity's history of trying to kill one another shot the ridiculous straight up in the air "hail of arrows" that they depict in Hollywood). If anyone is interested there is a ballad done in the style of traditional folk music by Ken Theriot entitled "Agincourt" - and while it's definitely dramatic, it encapsulates quite a few historic details.
@@michaeljfoley1 The Genoese had control of multiple Aegean islands, and then later the Ottoman Empire took control, as you mention. And me and my relatives from the same Aegean island have genetic markers from Italy. 23andMe told me in particular that I had ancestors from Veneto.
The King is an absolutely fantastic movie, whether accurate or not. The soundtrack is outstanding. One of my favourites, the Battle of Agincourt is brutal.
When people say hail or rain of arrows it doesn’t necessarily mean inaccurate. It’s just a saying to mean a lot of arrows. A hail of bullets, raining lead etc etc
Could you do a video on Ceaser's Legion from Fallout: New Vegas? It does delve into the history of the Roman Empire, Hegelian dialectics, and much more.
Our king went forth to Normandy, With grace and might and chivalry, Grant him good life and good ending, That we on earth may safely sing. Deus gratias, Anglia - The Agincourt Carol
It's my guessing but maybe bows and crosbows were banned by the Pope because they were weapons used primarily in battles while swords and other melee weapons could be used in small skirmishes and because of that it could be counted as more self-defense weapon
Wasnt it also raining during the battle and it was muddy so it was more difficult for the french soldiers to assault the english attacking uphill? Or did i misremember that cause i dont see it in the movie
Would love to see some reactions to 'The rest is history' podcast on here. Tom Holland is one of the people that does it and it's great with humour and the history of various events.
20:30 Disagree with the historian here: Anglosaxon historians always seem to forget that while Henry V might be a king in England, for the French he is still primarily Duke of Aquitaine and Peer of France. Nominally, the French would consider him a vassal to the King for his lands in France and, thus, in default of homage against Charles VI. Perfectly reasonable that the Dauphin (here, and accurately, Louis, Duke of Guyenne and NOT the future Charles VII) representing Charles VI would be sitting to mark his feudal superiority over a vassal in rebellion as a deliberate slight - but of course, as you point out, Louis wasn't even at Agincourt - but in Rouen with his father Charles VI.
2.27 min. in, there is a guy wearing a beany and a sweater that kind of looks like a time traveler to me... have not seen the movie, may be their magician..
Totally with Pasta King. That's gotta be a thing. Pasta, baby, pasta. (OK, I have an Italian great-great-grandfather and love good food. So maybe I'm biased. But PASTA!)
16:13 was that oddity (the historian apparently representing the wrong profile of King Henry) an artifact of the way videos get mirrored (& maybe re-mirrored) as they are prepared (sorry I'm not a real tech guy) in post-productiom for YT uploading? And will some future historian be mocking this video until a future Metatron can get pedantic on their ass and show the original historian probably recreated the correct profile but due to the old school tech it became mirrored in post production? And that the future historian either didnt understand the tech of the day, or was just mocking it to get more 6th dimensional upvotes on the intergalactic-web?
Henry would've been speaking French anyway French was the language of the English court in this time period 😂 he was the first to make english the official language of the court since the Norman conquest but he would've been speaking French while speaking to a member of French royalty cause it technically would've been his native language
Pardon my Ignorance Metatron, I grew up in the Australian outback, thousands of km from the nearest large city. My high school only took me as far as grade 10 out of 12. I am a huge star wars fan and not really into European history. My knowledge of history only goes as far back to Captain Cook finding Australia. So I really enjoyed this film but I very much appreciated your video. I still like the movie though as entertainment. Peace.
As for the boost of morale i think it's all about how each one would use and convince their own armies Henry would probably try to tell his men the French king was a coward and assure his men the French morale was hit by that. The French nobles leading the army would assure their men Henry was desperate for he knew the entire English army would be destroyed, so their only chance was in a duel, but give some good reason for fighting. Maybe some reports of the English army raping and pillaging the French countryside. And killing Henry in single duel would only make those bandits in France leaderless and thus more dangerous I mean, it's late medieval propaganda. Factual information is NOT what usually boosts morale
Shakespeare is not known for a correct depiction of history. Neither are filmmakers. It´s absolutely fine if they are entertaining. I didn´t enjoyed the film much perhaps because I don´t like Henry V :-). But I wanted to know what´s the fuss about and hoping I might be pleasantly surprised. So I didn´t accept any historical accuracy. One inaccuracy I found really annoying though. Henry was trained soldier since his childhood. I would expect a completely different torso. Timothee looks like he can barely hold a kitchen knife.
Comparatively. If you compare it to how usually fights in movies are then sure it’s a star of a fight. But look at the first sword swing. It’s horrible. The redeeming factor is that they wrestle to the ground.
@@metatronyt similar reakcion, and the armors are inacurate to. The halfswording possibility was ther. But ther failed to bring a halberd to the fight.
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Yeah a new Agincourt video would be great!
I've also been super interested in how the view of historical "mental illness" has changed over my lifetime.
Obviously it's a tricky subject to tackle for so many reasons, but even with in the very restricted area of 'not projecting modern preconceptions onto historical events' i think there are so many fascinating issues and possible contradictions.
The it'd be cool if Vampire King would be about the real Vlad the Impaler and how the whole him being a vampire thing came about.
As someone else has commented somewhere, the best part about this movie is they got a Frenchman to play an Englishman and an Englishman to play a Frenchman 😂
Omg you're kinda right lmaaaooo
Current Year the most overrated actor & the most underrated actor in the same scene.
@@JohnSmith-sb2fpTo be fair, all the actors in this movie are great, and for the most part the acting in the movie is great. There's some script issues, but like, it's Shakespeare 😂
Spot on, I too can't stand chalamay @@JohnSmith-sb2fp
Chalamet was born in America, his mom is a New York Jew and his dad though French is half English himself
I'm from Shrewsbury. At battlefield in Shrewsbury there is a big Tesco... Not included in this film. Unrealistic!
Henry V was the first English King since the Norman conquest who made English the language of government. English may have even been his first language, considering he used it in personal correspondence, it's hard to say. But the idea that French nobility in the 15th cetury would ever even know how to speak English in the first place, let alone speak it to an enemy (who speaks French - all English nobility spoke French until the 16th century or so) is absurd. Only 50 years or so before Henry V's reign, it was deemed unlordly for a noble to speak English. There's actually a record of Edward I addressing his men in English while on crusade around 1270, and we know it was strange because the record basically says "the King actually spoke English, that was weird."
Modern english would still be like old English and very Germanic sounding if not for the 60% of French and Latin that was absorbed into English today.
That's anti-English propaganda.
King John spoke English often and he even signed the letter by Bishop Hugh of Conventry stating only men that can speak English can hold power in England. King John taught his son how to speak English too and when his son was elected king of Germany, Mathew Paris said in a chronicle "Now that Richard de Cornwall has been elected King of the Romans, he will have no trouble learning their language (German) as he already speaks English".
Edward I could also speak English and said in parliament "The French wish to destroy our English tongue, a plot I trust god will forbid".
@@EnglandVersus I mentioned Edward I, but it proves my point - the King of England actually using English was a rare enough event that we have pretty good documentation of every time it happened. We know at least some of the Plantagenet/Lancaster kings COULD speak English, they just often didn't, at least in public.
Mate im sorry but im going to be pedantic the king henry v with Laurence Olivier was filmed before the end of ww2 because the war ended in 1945 not 1944.
True!
Fair point. Metatron remember this
I'm not sure that pictures are an appropriate source on how battles were fought. In paintings "visor up" can simply mean showing the person's face for identifications reasons, who is who in the picture (otherwise it would need name tags on everyone). I studied classical archaeology and numismatics, and in both fields we learn that any picture is more of a communication device targeted at contemporary audience than a report for generations to come. It is more about representation and telling the story from the perspective of the person who ordered the picture, than a faithful account on anything. This can be extended to the medieval sources as well, high illiteracy rates made it necessary to convey messages through pictures.
Yeah that it is a great point! Now that you've said it, it seems so bleeding obvious because that is almost the exact same reason hollywood continuously, and unrealistically, insists on showing the actors faces!
Obviously there are different underlying realities (like celebrity status leading to more bums on movie theatre seats) but basically it's all about easy identification of key players, and humans are hard-wired with strong facial recognition.
they would probably have visors up while away on some hill overlooking the battlefield to be able to command the troops but once you get into archer range and melee its most likely they would just always have visors down
The question I have about that is, would not visual field be improved with visors up? A narrow slit of vision isn't going to help as much for seeing the field of melee, and from where an enemy thrust is likely to come?
I am no armor expert - but would this indicate that sometimes it would be most practical to fight with visors up, especially in melees where one is contending with multiple opponents?
@tanikokishimoto1604 I didn't discuss that part because I have no expertise. Metatron was talking about iconographic evidence for it, I talked only about that.
@ it does help with vision pulling it up but in return it opens up a weak spot for ur opponent to exploit, knights are rich to begin with and not supposed to fight alone, so its not really common for them to fight all alone i gues, tho it might be useful in some situations to pull it up
You say respect for Hotspur, but his eagerness to rush into battle was what lost him the battle of Shrewsbury which was the beginning of the end of Owain Glyn Dwr's rebellion.
If he had waited for the rest of the Welsh army to join, they quite possibly would have won.
YES! Do a new agincourt video!
This!
We want a new Agincourt video.
I thought it was based on Henry V, Shakespeare's play. Not history.
Fascinating! I love learning the history behind the fiction!
Movie is still pretty great so I would say it might be good to not always be accurate; having said a monkey paw would curl and we would get something terribly inaccurate.
Aside from the obvious issues, I really love The King. It is one of those films I keep on going back to and I don't know why. Love it.
Hey Metatron! Awesome video as always! At about 12:45 you`re arguing about the duelling with visor up because there are several depictions/ iconography with visor up and therefore a lot of real duells were probably fought that way as a choice of the fighters- I was just wondering if in the depictions they were just fighting visor up so the viewer cought more easily see who the combatants were, so maybe it was just a common artistic choice? I know not all duells were fought til death and often just until the first blood spilled, but with visor up wouldn`t there be ALOT more of risk to die?
He mentions in other videos that what we consider risks, for a medieval person might be completely different, or the risk of injury or death might be worth the advantage.
@@totallynuts7595I still don't agree with that. Someone else pointed out that they probably fought visor fown and it was only depicted this way for artistic purposes (much like modern movies where main characters fight without helmets)
OH Metatron. Naughty man, you said English archers; Henry used mainly Welsh archers at the battle of Agincourt ..
Actually many if not most of the archers were actually English but there were certainly welsh archers there too
@@R0B0TUK Fair comment mate, but even Wikipedia claims Henry used Welsh archers, and were "key" to his victory at Agincourt.
@@mr.angry2363 What's the difference? Sorry, I'm not history expert but I find these entertaining and I want to know more. Welsh weren't mixed with English yet in that time?
You and so many people completely miss the point of this movie. Its not meant to be historically accurate. Its a retelling and reinterpretation of Shakespeares play which is also not accurate. Its meant to be fictional while pulling from a historical fictional play, not a documentary. Analyzing it from a historical perspective is almost meaningless unless its comparing it to the play.
Are you gonna do the history hit video on the film review of Pompeii?
There was a written challenge between the King and the Dauphine ... but they didn't meet in person.
Vampire king would be a sick Dracula movie.
I'd love to see a doctor-vampire.
His name could be Acula.
Dr. Acula.
The King of Queens, King Rat, The King and I, The Fisher King and on and on forever.
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Regarding the Napoleonic Cuirass. If you make a episode two about it you might want to talk to an reenactor of the period. (I would recomend the UA-camr Brandon Fischiella. He is an reenactor and Public Historian with quite a lot of videos on warfare, mainly in the period 1700-1815, but the occasional video covers later conflicts.
Yes I follow Brandon, great channel. He has done a lot of illuminating videos on WW1 recently, they are fascinating even if that isn't your usual period of interest.
Actually, Henry V was shot in 1944. For their chain they used cable disks due to war related metals shortage. I.e. they cut rubber cables into disks, painted them and stitched them together. And they still got their armor to look very accurate, and much more accurate than almost every other production of medieval era movies since. The film is widely lauded for its props, and critized for one feature: They show cranes lifting the French knights into their saddles. This is where the myth of knights needing cranes to mount their horses comes from.
Everyone and their dear ol' grandmother has done a video about Agincourt.
Maybe do one about Castillon or Patay?
Everyone that can use parts of film without getting flagged/copyrighted is/are part of the industry
Tv/State/streamers etc
Wish they elaborated the situation with percy hotspur and the battle of shrewsbury.
God there is something that chills my bones when i think about it ,, it almost takes me back to a memory that i didnt know existed .
@09:05 Not even right *after* World War II: *DURING* World War II, in 1944, while Great Britain was being constantly ravaged by air raids (which is why the film was shot in Ireland).
YES NEW AGINCOURT BATTLE VID
What's totally missing from this depiction of Agincourt is Henry V ordering the execution of all noblemen that were captured (except the high-noble leadership VIPs he selected for ransom), despite the angry protests of his men, because the prisoners were so numerous that Henry was afraid he would never be able to keep them under control. The light infantrymen and skirmishers actively went in the mud to finish off the fallen French knights with their knives.
Great video as always!
Please do an accuracy video on Waterloo the 1970s movie
I fell in love with this part of history after reading Bernard Cornwell's Azincourt.
9:00 Metatron shows good armor in movies, positing a better alternative than the thing he's criticizing. More of this please.
09:00 is not Laurence Olivier in Henry V, thats reenactors.
Olivier has pretty much a identical armour but his helmet is bit different and he also wore the chain of SS.
this was the vidoe what make a discuss over pointblank or fahr shootng... and some over crosbow/bow range.
Did you know that plastic Sporks was invented at that time.
Yes! Absolutely do another Agincourt!
This was fun! I loved this movie, even with the many historical inaccuracies. Now, I learned about the inaccuracies within the armor.
I never understood the choice to possess dull if not no colour in the film, even how dim it's shot.
+1 to a new Agincourt video! ♥
Please!! do a review about the Britannia, Roman Empire and Hollow Crown series
Yes do the Agincourt video please!
yes please. I like to see a newer video about the battle of Agincourt.
So interesting---thank you.
Robert Pattinson was by far the highlight of this film
The return of the king
Did you see the version of Macbeth with Michael Fassbender? I'm not sure if Shakespeare is up your alley, but I'm curious what you think about their weapons and armor
@ 3:17 i love these historical "nicknames" because i have never, ever met or heard of anyone who was known by such an odd, and especially long, nickname.
Tbh "hotspurs" is probably the closest to a real sounding nicknane that i could actually imagine the other soldiers / officers regularly using, but usually they are something very unnatural sounding that i can only ever imagine being used one time as the punchline to a joke (either good or ill)
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I think it could have been a mix of both, boosted morale becsuse the french prince rejected the offer but also lessened morale/agitation from being forced to fight where they were outmatched. But thet ended up winning, so the british morale was boosted after the battle regardless.
Yes please episode on battle of Agincourt 😮
Also, if you believe the Bayeux Tapestry, King Harold was killed by an arrow to the eye. Well, either that or hacked to pieces by Norman knights.
As always good video, but i think that the picture shown isnt out of henry v. by laurence olivier which also was shot IN the second world war, as far as i know, just in addition. 👍
he would have been fully awake during arrow removal... no painkillers back then.. ouchy
About the nickname Hotspur, the motto of the Perry's was Esperance, ie Hope. And the similar word eperon is the French for spur. Not such a great leap to call the hot tempered Harry Percy Hot spur, as he yelled Eperance!
Espérance is not hope exactly. It’s expectation. There is a slight difference between the two.
@@Doomguy-777 Sorry but no, espérance means hope. Expectation would be "attente".
@ No there is a meaning difference. Google Translate will tell you it's hope. But it's not. Expectations are less intense than hopes and more careful, often more rational. If your hopes are crushed, it's certainly more painful than expectations. That's what the semantic difference is. We have this nuance in french.
@@Doomguy-777 I don't know where you're from, but here in France espérance always means hope, not expectation.
@ It's not exactly a synonym but almost like I explained.
Visor up in paintings = visor up in movies; in my opinion it was to identify the duelists in the paintings as for their viewer to understand whose who.
Also about the Dauphin rejecting the duel = drop in French morale/boost in English morale; different ideals back then, also chivalry above all in highly moralistic societies, would support the interpretation. Obviously there were realists in the mix but overall, the idea of rejecting a duel was a "social faux pas".
The film with Lawrence Oliver as Henry V was shot during WW2, not after WW2.
The armor in this is still better than most medieval movies. Realistically i dont think one can expect much more
Yeah, in fact what Metatron says elsewhere (12:48) "it is important to not get carried away & over correct" probably applies to the armour too.
I'm not saying they did this, but it would be counter-productive to do something (armour or weapons or anything really) that was technically realistic, but that "looked" or felt unrealistic to 90% of the audience (who weren't knowledgeable in that area)
Long time subscriber. Would like to see analysis of pacific islander weapons and tactics.
I would LOVE to see a breakdown of Braveheart.
Generally it's assumed that the archers at Agincourt targeted the horses (and no archers ever in the entirety of humanity's history of trying to kill one another shot the ridiculous straight up in the air "hail of arrows" that they depict in Hollywood).
If anyone is interested there is a ballad done in the style of traditional folk music by Ken Theriot entitled "Agincourt" - and while it's definitely dramatic, it encapsulates quite a few historic details.
Metatron, could you do an episode on the Italian occupation of the Aegean Sea during the 1600’s or whatever?
Do you mean the Venetian's in the Aegean? I know that they only lost Crete to the Ottomans in the 1660s.
@@michaeljfoley1 The Genoese had control of multiple Aegean islands, and then later the Ottoman Empire took control, as you mention. And me and my relatives from the same Aegean island have genetic markers from Italy. 23andMe told me in particular that I had ancestors from Veneto.
@@PaulPastitsioTheThird Which island are you from?
Metatron you should do a video on the deities and religion for Roman’s before greek influence was adopted
The King is an absolutely fantastic movie, whether accurate or not. The soundtrack is outstanding. One of my favourites, the Battle of Agincourt is brutal.
🍻 agreed
When people say hail or rain of arrows it doesn’t necessarily mean inaccurate. It’s just a saying to mean a lot of arrows. A hail of bullets, raining lead etc etc
but what if it just rains arrows?
The global climate is changing after all
0:54 It's good to be the king.
The next king is Kingpin in the Daredevil movie.
Could you do a video on Ceaser's Legion from Fallout: New Vegas? It does delve into the history of the Roman Empire, Hegelian dialectics, and much more.
1:14 Mufasa : The Lion King 🦁
🦁☀️🐝⚡🦅⚡🐝☀️🦁
Hey Metatron! When do you make a breakdown of Ridley's Napoleon? I would like to see it😅
Greetings from Czechia and be well!🙂
Our king went forth to Normandy,
With grace and might and chivalry,
Grant him good life and good ending,
That we on earth may safely sing.
Deus gratias, Anglia
- The Agincourt Carol
It's my guessing but maybe bows and crosbows were banned by the Pope because they were weapons used primarily in battles while swords and other melee weapons could be used in small skirmishes and because of that it could be counted as more self-defense weapon
I was thinking, "Sofa King!"
Wasnt it also raining during the battle and it was muddy so it was more difficult for the french soldiers to assault the english attacking uphill? Or did i misremember that cause i dont see it in the movie
Would love to see some reactions to 'The rest is history' podcast on here. Tom Holland is one of the people that does it and it's great with humour and the history of various events.
20:30 Disagree with the historian here: Anglosaxon historians always seem to forget that while Henry V might be a king in England, for the French he is still primarily Duke of Aquitaine and Peer of France. Nominally, the French would consider him a vassal to the King for his lands in France and, thus, in default of homage against Charles VI. Perfectly reasonable that the Dauphin (here, and accurately, Louis, Duke of Guyenne and NOT the future Charles VII) representing Charles VI would be sitting to mark his feudal superiority over a vassal in rebellion as a deliberate slight - but of course, as you point out, Louis wasn't even at Agincourt - but in Rouen with his father Charles VI.
Please make a new video about Agincourt!
2.27 min. in, there is a guy wearing a beany and a sweater that kind of looks like a time traveler to me... have not seen the movie, may be their magician..
Metatron forgot Lion King. And of course, Elvis. Which is synonym for King.
More Agincourt!!
Please make another Agincourt video
in the duel: is his armour painted red and yellow? was armour ever painted?
Yes and yes.
unless the Dolphin be present
Totally with Pasta King. That's gotta be a thing. Pasta, baby, pasta.
(OK, I have an Italian great-great-grandfather and love good food. So maybe I'm biased. But PASTA!)
16:13 was that oddity (the historian apparently representing the wrong profile of King Henry) an artifact of the way videos get mirrored (& maybe re-mirrored) as they are prepared (sorry I'm not a real tech guy) in post-productiom for YT uploading?
And will some future historian be mocking this video until a future Metatron can get pedantic on their ass and show the original historian probably recreated the correct profile but due to the old school tech it became mirrored in post production? And that the future historian either didnt understand the tech of the day, or was just mocking it to get more 6th dimensional upvotes on the intergalactic-web?
Any reason why Metatron isn't doing the Oversimplified reactions? There's some pretty good Rome related content there
Henry would've been speaking French anyway French was the language of the English court in this time period 😂 he was the first to make english the official language of the court since the Norman conquest but he would've been speaking French while speaking to a member of French royalty cause it technically would've been his native language
I saw the thumbnail and thought metatron had blue hair 😭
Pardon my Ignorance Metatron, I grew up in the Australian outback, thousands of km from the nearest large city. My high school only took me as far as grade 10 out of 12. I am a huge star wars fan and not really into European history. My knowledge of history only goes as far back to Captain Cook finding Australia. So I really enjoyed this film but I very much appreciated your video. I still like the movie though as entertainment. Peace.
As for the boost of morale i think it's all about how each one would use and convince their own armies
Henry would probably try to tell his men the French king was a coward and assure his men the French morale was hit by that.
The French nobles leading the army would assure their men Henry was desperate for he knew the entire English army would be destroyed, so their only chance was in a duel, but give some good reason for fighting. Maybe some reports of the English army raping and pillaging the French countryside. And killing Henry in single duel would only make those bandits in France leaderless and thus more dangerous
I mean, it's late medieval propaganda. Factual information is NOT what usually boosts morale
I like the movie until the final battle of Agincourt. It's very classic ahistorical Hollywood chaos 1v1 all over the field meme.
Why is there a dude in modern dress holding his scepter? I thought it was a stage assistant that was accidentally in frame.
Metatron could you do a vídeo about the battle of Aljubarrota
Is baguette a euphemism? 😂
your favorite antiquity woman from history hit has a new video reviewing the movie Pompeii
actually Meta, archers where feared among the french knights because they didnt care about ransom money, since they would get nothing from it.
Megatron the Mouse 👑😅
Shakespeare is not known for a correct depiction of history. Neither are filmmakers. It´s absolutely fine if they are entertaining. I didn´t enjoyed the film much perhaps because I don´t like Henry V :-). But I wanted to know what´s the fuss about and hoping I might be pleasantly surprised. So I didn´t accept any historical accuracy. One inaccuracy I found really annoying though. Henry was trained soldier since his childhood. I would expect a completely different torso. Timothee looks like he can barely hold a kitchen knife.
expect (not accept)
They love their willowy twinks in hollyweird. Lol
I first thought there was Prince Harry in the thumbnail 😀
"The Sofa King"
Mat Easton made a few weaks ago this fight review, and find mostly realistic.
Comparatively. If you compare it to how usually fights in movies are then sure it’s a star of a fight. But look at the first sword swing. It’s horrible. The redeeming factor is that they wrestle to the ground.
@@metatronyt similar reakcion, and the armors are inacurate to. The halfswording possibility was ther. But ther failed to bring a halberd to the fight.
Do Agincourt
I love this movie though, I don't care about accuracy that much (Braveheart being in the top 5 od my all-time favorites speaks to that)