INTRO to the Divine Liturgy of EASTERN CATHOLICS: Byzantine : St.John Chrysostom
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2013
- Renee takes you step by step through an Eastern Catholic Liturgy! Comprehensibly and thoughtfully presented for our Roman Catholic brethren :) INDEX FOR EASY CLIP SEARCHING:SHOW MOREvv
1) 2:10-2:26 "Some apostles went out to the Greek people"
2) 2:26-2:45 "Structure of the Liturgy and Mass are the same"
3) 2:45-3:22 "Schism of the east and west in 1054"
4) 3:23-3:38 "Orthodox that reconciled with the Pope"
5) 3:38-4:24 "There are five rites that returned" "list of Liturgies"
6) 5:25-5:31 "Blessing with Holy Water and Bow"
7) 5:33-5:46 "Why icons look different"
8) 5:47-6:42 "Iconostasis" doors
9) 7:04-8:38 "Parathesis" preparation
10) 8:39-9:19 "Opening" Great Litany
11) 9:24-10:02 "Crossing yourself often"
12) 10:03-10:45 "Blue Book" to follow along
13) 10:52-11:02 "The First Antiphon" psalms
14) 11:02-11:36 "Bless the Lord O my soul!" psalm 102
15) 11:37-13:03 "2nd Antiphon" Justinian 565 AD
16) 13:42-14:27 "Resurrectional 3rd Antiphon & Little Entrance"
17) 14:27-15:18 "Pslam 94 or the Beatitudes"
18) 15:19-15:41 "Come let us Worship and fall down before Christ"
19) 15:47-16:28 "Thrice Holy Hyme" Holy God,Holy and Mighty
20) 16:29-17:13 ---actually the readings are different
21) 17:12-17:31 "After Gospel Insistent Litany" more petitions
22) 17:32-18:02 "Last preparation prayer before Eucharistic Liturgy"
23) 18:03-20:30 "We who mystically represent the Cherubim" Hymn
24) 20:30-21:20 "Petitions for the Pope and clergy, nation, benefactors" actually they did not mean Eastern Orthodox but catholics of the orthodox adjective.
25) 21:21-21:50 "Peak behind the doors at the altar"
26) 21:51-22:05 "More Eucharistic Prayers
27) 22:28-23:58 "The Creed" actually the Orthodox do say "holy catholic church" as in holy universal Church.
28) 24:00-24:40 "Kneelers are rare" Used for vespers sometimes.
29) 24:40-24:54 "It is Right and Just to worship.."
30) 24:55-25:20 "Amanuensis" Remembering all Christ did for us
31) 25:22-25:33 "Priests lifts the Sacrifice and makes a cross"
32) 25:34-27:04 "Hymn to the Mother of God"
33) 27:05-27:13 "Petitions with 'Grant This Oh Lord' response"
34) 27:13-27:20 "Our Father"
35) 27:25-28:12 "PrayerBeforeCommunion"RememberMe O Master
36) 28:13-30:05 "Receiving Communion"
37) 30:05-30:40 "Final Blessing"
I am an Orthodox Christian and I want to say that I love all my Catholic brothers and sisters.
God love you, my friend.
Thank you. I so much attracted to the Orthodox church but I find most Orthodox hurtful towards Catholics.
@@everesiamwanza6709 don't be tricked, the Orthodox Church is not an ally of ours
We love you too brother!
@@everesiamwanza6709 Although we are Christians, many still have not forgiven the fourth crusaders for the ran-sacking of Constantinople. The sheer barbarism of the crusaders went unmatched even when the Turks conquered Constantinople. It weakened the Byzantines so much, that they fell to the Turks later. We then had to endure 500 years of Muslim oppression. All because of the Catholics. But as Christians, we should forgive them. I have. But you are correct, many have not.
I was baptized in the Roman tradition but had no idea the Eastern churches existed until just a few years ago. I've since attended the Byzantine, Ukrainian, Syro-Malabar, and Maronite masses. All distinct in their own ways but still Catholic. Now I want to see more. The Catholic Church is lot more rich and vast than I thought.
Try syro malankara Catholic Mass also it shows a unique beauty of holy Catholic Church
I am a Roman Catholic. I remember the Latin mass as a young boy. Lately I had been reading and watching videos of the monks of Mt. Athos and Father Lazarus el-Anthony. My wife is in the hospital. Sunday, as I was standing outside the hospital, i heard church bells down the street. I went to see what church it was and I found it was a Byzantine Catholic Church. I felt compelled to go in. The service was so beautiful I fought back tears at times. I truly believe God called me to go there and I found my church.
Mount Athos is a orthodox monastery
The Latin mass is well and live. Find one that is independent from Rome since Rome is in apostasy. A catholic of any rite should go back ONLY AND WHEN the Church in Rome CONVERTS FROM MODERNISM.
My Athos has twenty monasteries over a thousand years old !
In the CREED she read that THE SPIRIT PROCEEDS FROM THE FATHER AND IS REVERED WITH THE FATHER AND SON! So no filioqve was mentioned here.
I love this, thank you. I’m Orthodox and I love all my catholic brothers and sisters in Christ, please pray for me a sinner and I will pray for you. I pray to our Lord we unite that way we can use both our lungs to fight the demons in the world.
I will pray for you brother.
I'm a protestant in the process of becoming a Roman Catholic. I think the video and your church is beautiful!
devan trace thanks man certainly feels that way :)
Welcome to the legitimate part of Christianity
B DON GAMEZ we are happy to have you
Bishop John Paul Hozvicka I went to your page and you are not Catholic in communion with Rome.
Bishop John Paul Hozvicka,
Celibacy???
Examine Matthew 19:12 and the Council of Elvira Spain 305AD Canon #33.
I’m happy to see the new generation of Catholics, both eastern and western, are very Traditional. My own Latin mass parish is full of young families and screaming babies 👶 I love it
where?
The crying babies are music to my ears
@@mkr3128 I call the screaming babies the "baby choir" and it's a good sign
The "Eastern" and the "Western" are the two lungs of the Church. God Bless!
Yep that's what JPII said
Research the Syriac Church
una afirmación mercadotécnica de Ratzinger, para atraer a los demás a él, que no aguantó el pontificado (!)
The True Church of Christ is the Orthodox Church, papal church can be described as a rotten arm which should be cured
I go to byzantine catholic church but they fulfill the roman catholic rite so ig im both
So Sad to see bitterly typed harsh and rude comments on here from Fellow Believers in Christ Jesus; People who are supposed to be living their lives with a purpose of loving God through loving others... REMEMBER You are trying to convince people to believe what you believe for no other reason than that you LOVE THEM genuinely as a result of your love of their creator God. What is all this smack talk? It is satanic talk coming out of anyones mouth no matter what they believe. Bad Behavior. "They will know we are Christians by our love." When i see no love, i don't know WHAT religion you are..You cannot correct people about God without love. You will fail and fail and fail and FAIL... Guess what??... I'm saying this because i love you..
if you are refering to my comments I was only trying to defend the Church. Sometimes it's hard to find the just middle. Harsh words don't always mean that there is no love behind them. When Christ talked to the Pharisees he wasn't exactly sweet. Yet I am sure he loved them all the same.
However I apologize if I lacked charity in my comments or if I offended anyone, that was not my intention.
Kephasmartyr you? no not at all
Thank you truly for those words. God bless you,and your work..
Amen!
Solidrity with 1.3 bilion Catholic worldwide...God bless the Catholic Church, amen.
Chi Rho = XP = Orion/Pleiades. What a secret!
Thanks for making this. I didn't know the Byzantine rite was so different from the Roman rite, but it is also very beautiful. I have always felt a special attraction to the icons of the Eastern tradition. There is an Eastern Catholic Church where I live. Maybe I will go to mass there someday.
Please do explore the eastern rites of the church. So many Catholics don't know there's any other rites in communion with the Holy See.
I hope that You have had the experience of visiting that Church. I live 3 blocks from St. Johns Byzantine Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I live in the Rectory of a Polish National Church and the Priests from St. Johns, visit Me on occasion and We have really great talks. . God Bless ALL. Kevin
kevlutu I am going to go to St John's in Minneapolis!!
Thanks for posting this! I am a Chaldean Catholic, also another eastern rite. :)
shlomo
Thank you for taking the time to prepare this video. I am an Orthodox priest, and so I too share your great love of the Divine Liturgy. Orthodoxy implies not only right belief, but also right worship; and the Divine Liturgy embodies this ideal of worshiping God in a truly beautiful way. Since you asked for comments I prepared a few, please forgive the wall of text.
#3 Though it is true that anathemas against individual persons were issued in 1054, it is an oversimplification to date the split to this time. This is in part because the anathemas were not against the whole churches, but against the patriarch and the papal legates. Functionally the churches, both east and west, still acted together on many things; though, to be sure, tensions were mounting. It is not until 1204, with the sacking of Constantinople, that the split is solidified. But to be fair, due to political strife and recent wars, westerners (and therefore many Catholics) had been slaughtered in 1182 at Constantinople, so there was blood on both sides. It should be noted also, that the mutual anathemas were lifted by Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras 50 years ago. In fact Pope Francis and Patriarch Bartholomew recently met in remembrance of that occasion.
#9 The western church originally used leaven bread as well, but later changed to unleaven. This was one of the major points of contention in the disputes between the east and west which resulted in the schism.
#9 During Proskomedia (the preparation of the Gifts) the entire Church is represented on the Diskos. Of Course there is Christ, the Lamb, then to His right is the Theotokos, to His left the nine ranks of angels or saints; thus all the church triumphant is represented. Then a large particle is taken out for the ruling hierarch (I would assume you would take out a piece for Pope Francis?) and another large one for the whole living church. Then individual particles are taken out with the name of each person of the parish or others to be prayed for. Another large particle is removed for all the departed, then again departed are mentioned by name as a particle is taken for each. Finally a last particle is taken out for the priest who is serving. When it is time for communion, only part of the lamb is put in the chalice and not the particles representing the rest of the church. Finally, after communion, the priest prays that all those remembered on the diskos be forgiven by Christ’s blood and the prayers of His saints as they are all then put into the chalice: So the whole Church is brought together in Christ. There is deep beauty in every part of the preparation of the gifts.
#20 Though it is not that important, this should be corrected. The whole Catholic church does not read the same readings each day. The assigned daily readings for the Byzantines are different than the Romans. Current Roman practice was revised in the Second Vatican Council from a single year cycle to be a three year cycle. (Though even that single year cycle differs from the Byzantines). Byzantines should still be on a one year cycle. Byzantine Catholics are also split on when they celebrate Easter with some celebrating it on the date set by the First Ecumenical Council, while others on the date set by Pope Gregory XIII. This affects not only the readings for that day since most readings are connected to the date of Pascha. Thus, not even the Byzantine Catholics among themselves all read the same thing each day.
#24 When during the Great Entrance “all Orthodox Christians” are prayed for, that is not a specific intention for the Orthodox who are not in communion with Rome as a separate group. It is the traditional final petition for the faithful that even the Orthodox themselves say.
#27 The Orthodox also believe in “One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church”, and include it in the Creed. From the way it was pointed out in the video it seemed to imply that was different.
The only difference in the Creed is of course the addition of the “filioque”, or the idea that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father “and the Son.” The addition of the filioque by the Roman Church began in what is now Spain in the 400s. It was added despite the express written instructions contained in the Third Ecumenical Council, and also against the wish of the Pope. Even as it spread through the western church it was not used in Rome. Two great silver shields were commissioned by Pope Leo III inscribed both in Latin and in Greek with the original creed and hung in St. Peter’s. It was not until 1014 that Pope Benedict VIII, responding to the request of Henry II, began to use the filioque. It is after Rome stops resisting the addition to the Creed that the East’s concern becomes very great, contributing to the confrontation 40 years latter in 1054. Exacerbating the issue was that when translated to Greek, the filioque necessitated a double procession of the Holy Spirit, a sense that was not explicit in the Latin. The issue of the procession of the Holy Spirit would be revisited in the Council of Florence 400 years later, but that is a whole other piece of history.
In Christ,
Fr. Ignatius
re #27 The Orthodox also believe in “One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church".... catholic should be spelt with a small c ... this way catholic would mean universal ... upper case C tends to be refer to Roman Catholic
Father, thank you very much for clarifying things. There is much rancor on the internet between Catholics and Orthodox Christians, and it is refreshing and gratifying to hear from an Orthodox priest on these matters so we can better understand one another. Understanding and sensitivity to others is the path to reconciliation.
Fr. Ignatius Gauvain
It is very refreshing to see an Orthodox Priest explain things charitably and intelligently.
Unfortunately, on the internet anyway, Eastern Orthodoxy tends to be represented by hardcore hyperdox fundamentalists who spit venom at anything Roman or even Western.
Fr. Ignatius Gauvain great comment!
Fr. Ignatius Gauvain hello father i am a eastern catholic
Renee, I am a Indonesian Roman Catholic living in Jakarta. I love the reunion of both Western and Eastern rites. I do not mind using either Roman or Eastern one. I just hope we can build dan develop our Church together under one Pontiff 😇
God bless us!!!
Well...the most important is the Pontiff always open euchumenism dialogue between west and east church which is the lungs of universal church
Dear Sister, I am a choir director in the Orthodox Church. I am so very touched by your faithfulness to Christ and your outreach to those who share our tradition. God Grant You Many Years!
Stampede PA
God grant you many years as well
Stampede PA mnogaja ljeta?!
I was going to my first Byzantine Rite Catholic Divine Liturgy at the church were my great-grandmother was buried. I am a Latin Rite Catholic and this really helped me understand what was going on. When I attended live their was a beauty and reverence here that really touched my heart. Thanks for this video and God bless you. S.A.G.
Thank you for this beautiful and straightforward introduction to the Eastern Catholic liturgical tradition. I was born into a Roman Catholic family, left the Church, and eventually came back to the Roman Catholic Church. But I re-entered through the Eastern door, becoming Eastern Orthodox for a decade before returning to full communion with Rome. I am so grateful for the beauty and reverence that I found among our Eastern Orthodox brothers and sisters, and I found no substantial difference (except the acknowledgement of the papacy) when I later worshipped with a Byzantine Catholic Church. I continue to pray in the Eastern manner in my personal prayers and feel every bit as much at home among the Eastern Catholics as among those of the Roman rite. I wish I could say that I have found the Eastern Orthodox to be as tenderly affectionate toward their Catholic brothers and sisters, but alas, among them I have often encountered misunderstanding and mistrust toward Christians in communion with Rome, both Eastern and Roman Catholic. Let us continue to work and pray for the union of all.
Glad to hear you are back, brother! I'm a Brazilian Catholic from a protestant home, I attend byzantine rites sometimes, too.
Pax Christi!
meusisto Thank you. May the peace of Christ also be yours.
+meusisto outro protestante que achou o caminho ;)
bom saber que nao estamos sozinhos
Steel Patterns
Você também, meu irmão?
meusisto C:
As a Catholic who attends both rites, very, very well done. More people should see this. People of the Western Rite need to become more aware of our rich history and full beauty of The Church, East and West. Thanks.
your Liturgy is very similar to ours, I'm In The Greek Orthodox Church. There are noticeable differences though
This video was actually on the official website of a Ruthenian-Greek Catholic Church I went to.
I love this so much. Today, I went to my first Latin Tridentine High Mass. It was so beautiful. And it makes me want to go to it more, but also participate in more tradition, especially the Eastern liturgies. I plan to go one day to an Eastern Catholic Church in Chicago and experience the Divine Liturgy that our Eastern brothers and sisters use :)! What a gift is it. The prayers you said truly touch my heart and if only I can say it in the Divine Liturgy, which I will one day, I will praise the Holy Trinity and Jesus/God our Saviour in a way I never did before in the Mass (Novus Ordo particurally). Thank you!
just to let you know that christ was a black hebrew , just like his mother mary, ethiopian ,
@@jahvoice5097 You people. God have mercy upon your soul, Saint Joseph and his Spouse, Holy Mary, the Blessed Virgin Mother of God, and all the Holy Saints, Angels, and Martyrs of the One True Church pray for you so that you may be converted. God bless You.
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 con verted from wat ,to wat,
@@jahvoice5097 What you said sounded like hebrew israeliteism, so I assumed you believed that and so I wished that you would be coverted from that to the truth of the Catholic Church.
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 there is no ism in the 12 tribes of iarael ,look in your bible and you will find that christ ,mose ,abraham ,solomon ,king david are black ,jesus is white ,christ is black ,i can pray that one day the ethiopian get rid of them catholic jesus out of there churches ,and put back the black christ ,you have defiled there churches with your dirty minds and hands ,you are defending the very people of the vatican who attacked ethiopia ,and your pope blessed that attack ,so in the nicest way fuck your pope all the way to hell ,jah bless ,
Thank you Sister, I have been struggling which church is the right church but now I know that Catholic is the original church of Jesus Christ. God bless.
you are good! I am Catholic Thai and learning about greek catholic.
That's great! Tell me more about it!
Catholic brother from Brazil
BornAgain happyfriday actually read in Thai language. English it's difficult for me
@@Boyd_Watson I'm Indonesian Roman Catholic,live in Bogor,West Java Province (60 km from Jakarta) and I love all Eastern Catholic Brother and Sister. Greetings from Indonesia to all Roman Catholic Brother and Sister in Thailand. GBU,Bro! :-D
so beautifully explained and you have a sweet and beautiful voice. I am also a Eastern Catholic belonging to Syro Malabar Catholic and follows the Qurbana of Mar Addai and Mar Mari. Wonderful work my dear sister God bless you. Marya Alaha
Just got back from my first Eastern Catholic Byzantine Liturgy. It was beautiful. Will definitely try to go there more often
Almost 14k already?!? it has only been 5 months! :)
May God Bless you and I wish you a happy productive sojourn on YT and in life.
Question: I have been comparing videos of the Liturgy of Byzantine Rite and the Roman "Tridentine" Mass-each is beautiful but different--do you think the Romans put too much emphasis on elaborate choreography of gestures and movements? I am a Roman Catholic-have been to both types of liturgies although mostly in the last 45 years the Novus Ordo.
To answer my own question: yes-a bit too elaborate.
The vestments of the Latin Mass are great but nobody beats the Byzantines for vestments. I have to give the nod to the Romans on music-you can't beat that Gregorian chant. Thanks.
I was wondering, is it ok for a Roman Catholic to go to a mass of another rite if he were in a country where there aren't that many Roman Catholic diocese (for example southern India)?
***** Thanks for the answer. Pax.
...there was no voice for me, just faint music...
+RebornPure Catholic you have a great heart, and I hope heaven shines on many of it's blessing in this life and the next.
Thanks! Love the video. Roman Catholic from the Philippines. Hope this would inspire Filipinos who are being chased by indigenous cults such as Iglesia Ni Cristo.
Hi Lester I've always wondered about iglesia ni cristo. They have 2 churches here in my city perth Australia. I'll stay catholic
True. Iglesia ni Cristo is heresy.
@@jw-vx8im iglesia ni cristo's founder was a former catholic. It is a cult composed of 3 million members worldwide mostly Filipinos themselves. It was founded in 1914
I have been attending The Divine Liturgy since April of 2021. This video has been so helpful in understanding the why's and how's. The beautiful young lady who explains The Liturgy is so joyful in this presentation and has done a wonderful job explaining the Byzantine Liturgy which is truly a taste of Heaven!! Thank you for this.
I love the joyful enthusiasm of this video! May all come to know and love the Divine Liturgy!
As an Eastern Orthodox Christian, I never knew how (almost) identical our traditions are to the Eastern Catholic Church. Very beautiful. Thank you.
I love your comments! They are spot on and so universally relatable for all those who also hold such a mass close to their hearts.
@RebornPureAdmin I noticed you did not speak a word about the “God Grant You Many Years” chant. Can you do a video all about that and how that came to be? Thanks and God bless!
After watching your video I clearly understand my feelings I have experienced during the services I have attended in the past and want to thank you for opening my eyes in understanding the Divine Liturgy of Eastern Catholics and their Mass. Thank you for your devotion and ability to convey your knowledge to us. You are a Blessing to all of us.
The rites are the same that Catholics Byzantine church. According what I had had read the jesuits went to Rusia because they were expelled by the Pope. The Tsaritsyn Catherine gave them protection and them in grateful they went to Ucrania to cause a division in the Orthodox Church and they converted to split from the orthodox to Rome. What ungrateful ? That happens when you invited others people to your house, they cause problems and still from you.😡😡😢😢
I am biking to a Melkite church 5 mins from my home tomorrow morning for their divine liturgy. I have never been to a church service in my life. Thank you for this helpful video!
smart play
I was baptized in the Melkite Greek Catholic Church and did all my other sacraments in the Catholic Church. I actually learned that recently as I was born in Venezuela (all we say there is the Catholic Church, regardless of rites) and because I was baptized as an infant. Now I live in San Diego and one day, I was driving on the 805 and I saw the top of a church and I felt God saying: go to that church. I didn’t go right away. As a matter of fact, I went just this week and that first revelation happened a few months ago. When I went, I felt right at home. It almost felt like the Holy Spirit saying: this is where you belong. I know still is the same catholic faith but expressed differently. I told my wife that I’d love to go to a Devine Liturgy but she is against it. I do feel the Holy Spirit pulling me in switching rites. Please brothers and sisters in Christ, pray for me so the Lord can help me discern this call. 🙏
Go and see what happens
I’m a Hindu watching. This is fantastic. I’ve never been to Eastern Wright mass before but I’ve definitely been to Western mass is for more than a decade now.
Wonderful! Thank you for your comment :) I have never seen someone comment that they were Hindu. You’re the first! Welcome!
I love this video. I'm Roman but have a deep love for the EC Churches. Especially Ruthenian. Thank you!
I think we are so much closer to the Eastern Orthodox than to the Roman Church.
What a blessing to have discovered the Byzantine Church!!
Thank you so much for this, really miss my Ruthenian Byzantine church when I moved to where there just aren't any around. Nothing quite like it.
Thank you very much for this great video. I am Christian, attend mass, and try my best. If I am right or wrong in my form of worship, I guess I won't find out until I am called from this earth. Until then, I appreciate your efforts to introduce others to your beautiful Christian rite of worship. May all Christians (East, West, North, South) strive towards unity in Christ. God Bless You and your efforts to instruct others.
Слава ісусу христу
This is beautiful video and you have a beautiful voice. I was raised in an Eastern Ukrainian Catholic Church and I plan on attending a Ukrainian Catholic Byzantine Rite Church again soon. I have saved it, and this is exactly the video I need to watch. I will watch it over and over. I hope to memorize the psalms. Thank you!
Sweetness and openness of your way of talking, it is wonderful. I hope you keep these through the years.
Thank you! I am a Rome rite catholic from Spain and I could not find information on our eastern catholic brothers. God bless you!
This helped me when I first went to a Byzantine Catholic Church, Thank you
what a beautiful church!
my home parish!
If I was single, I would seek you out, you beautiful, wonderful, devout lady! I converted from Protestantism to orthodoxy at the age of 16 and also have always had great respect for my catholic bretheren. Keep up the good work!
I am a Lifelong Latin Rite Catholic who was introduced to the Divine Liturgy by a Fellow Latin Mass Traditionalist. The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom has aided me in my understanding of Both the Tridentine Latin Mass and the Ordinary Form Mass, also called Novus Ordo Missae, particularly the Ordinary Form of Mass, where the General Intercessions(Prayers Of The Faithful) are prayed before the Nicene Creed, as well as the Doxology after The Our Father and Standing to receive Holy Communion.
Thanks so much, Rebecca for the Video.
Deo Gratias!
Michael
Great to see the church after so many years of being away! My family helped build that church! I was one of the first altar boys to serve there! We had no iconostasis- just two large icons on stands!
This is profoundly beautiful. Thanks for sharing, Renee!
I was received into the Eastern Catholic Church in November of last year. anyone who visits or really enjoys the liturgy, I generally direct them to this video. God bless you and your ministry!
Thank you Renee! I love how much joy and adoration you radiate in this video. God bless you!
REBORN PURE!! Thank you for being among the first to effectively teach me about the Byzantine Liturgy in such a sensitive, practical, and highly insightful format. I would love to meet you in person someday, as unlikely as that is to happen, since I don't live in the States. You seem like a very down-to-earth person who really understands the necessity of dialogue, clarity, and fraternity between the Roman and Byzantine rites (at least that's what I gathered from a half-hour video). I genuinely look forward to seeing more of your videos. Peace of Christ!
Because of having been to this Divine Liturgy, it has helped me to understand both The Tridentine Latin Mass & the Current Mass of Today.
Deo Gratias, Rene.
M
I love this video, the fact that such a good explanation has been up since 2013 is great. Thank you so much for your effort.
Love your passion and your joy! God Bless.
Even being a Presbyterian, I appreciated your zeal for God-glorifying liturgy and worship. Thanks for producing this!
Point # 36 once more: Placing one's hands over one's heart is also a very good and practicle way to prevent one's cross (if it's a pendant) from tapping the chalice or otherwise disturbing the priest.
Thanks for sharing, I didn't know this.
Thank you for the video. I had always, somewhat arrogantly considered myself knowledgeable of Catholicism. I know now that it was from my colloquial experience in the Latin Rites. Since watching this video the first time 6 weeks ago, I have been attending Our Lady of Lebanon Maronite Catholic Church. In the Latin Rites it seems as though an informal schism between Traditionalist (me) and the Modernist. Since attending at Our Lady of Lebanon, I have experienced no distractions, or witnessed the profanity of communion in the hand. To confess, I have been a bigot in believing the Latin Rite was the only Catholic Church that I was allowed to attend. The Catholic Church is a federation of 22 rites that I will be welcomed to. God bless
@Foakesian yeah I have learned that since my comment two years ago.
Well done video and beautiful singing voice! Thank you for your work and devotion.
You give a wonderful presentation! God bless you.
Wow, 33 minute video! I now understand why it took you 4 hours to film!
Great job, although as you said this is a topic that can be expanded upon for hours, you gave a very clear and straightforward outline...this helps me a lot in retroactively understand a lot of the things I remember from the Eastern Catholic masses I went to several years ago.
Despite the many disagreements i have with the catholic church. Your enthusiasm and joy is evident. Thanks for the introductory video. I hope you remain filled with faith, joy and hope. With all love, a follower of Christ Jesus.
Thank you so much for this video! The singing was really nice, and your idea of numbering the topics for further discussion is really nice.
Vatican II was wonderful for the Eastern churches in communion with Rome!! The council encouraged us to reclaim our traditions and to get rid of Latinizations. It forced even those bishops who were very happy with the status quo to change.Granted that change has taken quite some time for some of the churches(and is still going on in some),but without the push from Vatican II it probably never would have happened.It called for Byzantines to be bridge from the Western Church to the Orthodox.
RebornPure Catholic It’s true that Vatican II has some good points, but the overall impact was not good. It’s my own personal opinion. And a lot of why I chose to leave has ended up being rooted in Vatican II. Ultimately, it’s my service to God that matters most, not solve theological issues.
I had no idea there had been any reconciliation with the Eastern Orthodox, great to see. Thanks for sharing, had no idea about any of this. Renee I can relate to your appreciation of the beauty of this traditional liturgy in that I was blown away last week as I read and followed through a missal during a Latin Mass. It's really beautiful and I love the way the Priest faces toward the altar during the liturgy of the Eucharist and the great bells that ring!
Hello Renee/RebornPure Catholic, I am a Byzantine Catholic of the Melkite Church. So, the part where we pray for the Pope, Patriarch, Metropolitan, Bishop, etc. When we pray for all the "Orthodox Christians" that is not referring to the Eastern Orthodox Christians not in communion with Rome. The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom dates back to before the East-West Schism. "Orthodox" means in Greek "correct doctrine", or "true belief", it is also sometimes translated as "proper worship". This term, "Orthodox Christian" was used in the East in the Early Church to refer to those who followed the true doctrines and were part of the true Church, in order to distinguish them from heretics, such as Arians, Gnostics, Nestorians, etc. Similar to how "Catholic Christian" was used in the West. Before the Schism "Orthodox Christian" was used in the Eastern Church for all those that were part of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. After the Schism, the separated Eastern Churches continued to call themselves "Orthodox Christians" and even began calling their Church as the "Orthodox Church". When some of the Eastern Christians returned to union with Rome and the Catholic Church, they didn't change any words in the Liturgy and so the prayers for the faithful still use the term "Orthodox Christians" even though in modern times that term means a member of the Eastern Orthodox Churches, however before the Schism is just meant "right believing Christian" and since as Eastern Catholics we believe that the Catholic Church is "right believing" those prayers are actually for those faithful Catholics, particularly of the Eastern Catholic Churches, and that is why that prayer immediately follows the prayers for the hierarchs, bishops, clergy, and religious of the Eastern Church, because "Orthodox Christians" actually refers to all the lay faithful, every Christian beliver that is under the leadership of the Pope, Patriarch, Bishop, etc. This is why many Eastern Catholics call ourselves "Orthodox in communion with Rome" because before the Schism "Orthodox Christian" was just a Byzantine Christian term for people who were in full communion with the Catholic Church, as opposed to following some heresy which would make them a "Heterodox Christian". Basically "Orthodox Christian" used to be an Eastern term for "Catholic", and "Catholic" a Western term for "Orthodox Christian". After the Schism, both sides claimed to be the real Catholic Church and the real Orthodox Christians, even at a Greek Orthodox church I've been to the Baptismal prayers refer to baptizing the child into the "Holy Catholic Church". Basically "Orthodox Christian" can also mean "Byzantine Catholic", or just "Catholic" in the context of the Byzantine Rite Liturgy because the Liturgy was written before the East-West Schism when Catholics and Orthodox Christians meant the exact same thing. In the Orthodox churches they recite the same Creed and refer to the "One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church" but by this they really mean the Orthodox Church, just as by "Orthodox Christians" we Melkite and Ukrainian Catholics really mean "Catholics", or "Eastern Catholics".
Absolutely beautiful. I’m Latin Rite, but will be attending my first Byzantine Liturgy tomorrow and am very excited for celebrating with my sisters and brothers. God Bless you!
You have a beautiful singing voice. Thanks for this effort.
I noticed our candles are in sand as well. Thank you for telling me all this!
Thank you sister.
I have attended The Divine Liturgy in the Eastern Church but am Latin rite. I’m planning attending Divine Liturgy this weekend after watching this. There is such a reverence in the Divine Liturgy.
Blessings in Christ.
Brother Vance here...
Now all of the narrative audio explaining the Divine Liturgy is working great, and I can hear it!
God bless
What a great video! I am Serbian Orthodox. So many similarities to our liturgy, Amazing! Thank you sister!
Thank you so much for the video Renee. I have always been curios about the Eastern Rites of our Catholic faith but never was able to find such clear information on the Liturgy before now. I do find it intriguing to see such similarities between the Extraordinary Form of the Mass and this celebration of the Liturgy, but then of course we are "One Universal Church" after all. Now all I have to do is convince my parents to let us take a "field trip" and visit the many different Rites that we have represented in our diocese. Interestingly though I hear our bishop with be offering a Traditional Byzantine Liturgy soon which is something to look forward to. I have to say that having a Bishop who knows how to preform the Ordinary, Extraordinary and Byzantine Liturgies is amazing!
I just stumbled upon this video by accident. I am a Greek from Greece, orthodox in the Greek orthodox tradition of the Eastern Orthodox Church. You have a great singing voice and your presentation is very good. Keep up the good work and greetings and love from Greece.
Thank you for this! I am a Latin rite Catholic and have only been to one Byzantine liturgy, back in college. I find myself drawn more and more to eastern traditions and this helped make the liturgy much more approachable!
I was baptized as a Catholic and was blessed to have a Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox act as my baptismal sponsors. I have a few fond memories of my Godfather and my mother (who converted to Catholicism when she married my dad and early on sang in a Greek Orthodox church while attending college) teaching me some of the prayers and customs of the Eastern rites. My dad would tell me these were the same prayers used in the Roman rite before the Great Schism. Knowing my dad was a bit of a history buff, my Godfather teased him and asked facetiously, "And what would you know about the Great Schism, Ben?" And my dad replied with a smirk, "It was very schismatic!" LOL
Hahaha!
Did anybody hear about the cross-dresser who showed up at Mass? After he caught sight of one of the priests, richly clad in his vestments and swinging his incenser back and forth, filling the whole sanctuary with incense smoke, the transvestite called out to him and said, "That dress is a real knockout, honey, but you better be careful...I think your purse is on fire..." LOL
I told my brother (who used to be an acolyte when he was young, but due to all the standing and sitting, plus taking in a few whiffs of that incense smoke made him ill) this joke, which he thought was funny. And some years later, when my nieces were being confirmed and my whole family was there. My brother and I noticed there was one priest we thought had an incense fetish of sorts because of his use for the stuff...LOL Anyway, during the service, I noticed my brother's face and eyes getting all red and glassy, he grabbed the back of one pew rocking back and forth very slowly. I then whispered in his ear, "Ah, Joe, I hate to say this, but I think his purse is on fire!" LOL He looked at me as though he was either going to throw up or burst out laughing!" In the meantime, my mother looked at me and whispered, "What's so funny?" And I told her (she too had heard the joke also) and I told her what I told my brother as I pointed towards the priest, "Mom, his purse is on fire!" Her eyes were tearing as she too tried to keep a straight face while at the same time she tried to shush me. And as for my boyfriend, I was about to tell him as well as he maintained an air of calm and coolness telling me to quit or he would pull a Ralph Kramden-style version of sending ME to the Moon! LOL You can't say there's no such thing as a dull moment during Mass, though. LOL
Another thing...I told some of my priest-friends that joke also and they too found that quite amusing too! You can't say even priests have a sense of humor! In the words of St Teresa of Avila, "Deliver me from sullen-faced saints, O Lord!"
The "Deacon Doors", as you say, are also known as the "North Door" and "South Door", as most churches face to the east. Women should never enter the sanctuary but sometimes it is necessary for cleaning.
"Sometimes it is necessary for cleaning" that made me laugh out loud in a good way hahaha to think how many people will be shocked reading this.
Thank you for sharing your passion & instruction. May you have much influence among your peers and the next generation. The Divine Liturgy is beautiful & transcendent indeed.
Thank you Ms. Renée for your wonderful video and energy. I was baptized in the Latin rite 4 years ago but since then I have really grown to love the Divine Liturgy. Thank you very much for your energy. :)
Beautiful video, Renee...I use it for my course on the Mysteries at the Paul VI Catechetical Institute in St. Louis for Roman Catholic catechesis. Thanks to you, Fr. Thomas Loya and others helping Roman Catholics to expand their vision of the Church and the Life of the Trinity!!
What is your statement, I am from Ukraine and never has the orthodox church ever condemned the catholic church there, in fact most catholic and orthodox in Ukraine go to both churches, never a divide or condemning, until I have come to this land, how sad, have you no love for others.
+vova luke I will pray for you to find peace in your heart, and never a condemning nature, I had gone to a orthodox church here (Greek) and had a condemning nature, I promise you the orthodox church in Europe ,which has the original traditions, never has condemned the Catholics in the manner you described.
So You just disowned a whole part of your own church in Ukraine. Poor you , to condemn a placemyou have not been to, people you do not know, opinions made without going there or meeting the people there, you condemn without even knowing, you do not know me and you state I condemn myself, by telling you the truth of how things are there in that part of he world, how your church is there in the real world, but you know, when you do not even wish to listen to a person from that part of the world.You do not know your own church how sad.
Vasileios
What a vile statement.
Vade retro satana.
That comment was inspired by the evil one.
No specific questions, but you have the most beautiful voice!
Beautifully done, ma’am! I am a Latin Rite Catholic who loves to learn more and more about both lungs of this our glorious Church! May God bless your work and efforts to educate the faithful and the curious!
Hey Renee! I just wanted to say that I think what you are doing is absolutely amazing and I admire your faith. I have my own catholic channel and you were the one who inspired me. When I turn 16 I look forward to joining the NCG blogosphere☺️God bless you!!
I always wanted to attend the beautiful divine liturgy of our eastern church but sadly my country doesnt have any eastern catholic church.
Very nice video introduction for us to know better of out eastern family. God bless!
This beautiful What a witness
I have the heritage of both, the Syro Malabar (Liturgy of Mar Addai and Mar Mari - disciples of St.Thomas) and Syro Malankara ( Liturgy of St James ) Catholic Churches , from Kerala, India. Love my Syrian Catholic heritage and the One , True Catholic Apostolic Church. We have the same sequence in the liturgy and we invoke the Mother of God and Her intercession many times in the Holy Mass .
I wanted to say that this was really well put together. as a Latin rite Catholic, it is always nice to hear from our Eastern brethren. I once attended the Divine Liturgy at the the Greek Catholic College of Sant' Athanasio in Rome on the his feast day. It was a case of MIND = BLOWN. it was Chanted by the seminarians of the College and a Bishop lead(?) the service. it is incredible to see howmuch is in common with ALL the Rites of the Catholic Church. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR WORK!!!!!
#5One Byzantine Rite Catholic Church has never separated from Unity, the Italo Greek Albanoan Catholic Church. One Antiochan Rite Catholic Church, The Maronite Catholic Church, has never separated from Unity.
You guys really got serious issues going on. Here's a wonderful young lady teaching you with a kind and wide opened heart about this beautiful rite and made a great video for y'all to see, but so much criticism and harshness going on. Are people really not able anymore to see the >essence< of something? Just put your hardened hearts aside for this time and recognize how beautiful this is - seriously! Thank you for sharing your joy with us!
I agree. Just enjoy the beautiful differences and praise God.
Patrick Lenk Music
Hyperdox fundamentalists are endemic in Eastern Orthodox English speaking internet circles.
They are far from Christ.
We also have them in the Catholic Church, we call them "Rad-Trads."
Rad-Trads and hyperdox fundamentalists - two peas in a pod, two sides of the same coin. They claim to follow Christ yet don't have the self awareness to realize they act in the exact same way as the Pharisees who instigated the condemnation of Christ, whitwashes tombs and blind guides, straining out gnats yet swallowing camels.
Kyrie Eleison
@@Mommyandtux But we Trads are perfectly fine with the Eastern Rites, there is nothing wrong with them, just another tradition of the Church. God bless you. What we fight is the heretical and ugly Novus Ordo, a worse Anglican Liturgy(It is literally a terrible looking Anglican Liturgy.) and we seek the restoration and preservation of the tradition of the Latin Rite.
This is wonderfully done! Interesting to see that any time you are chanting something addressed to Our Lord and Savior, you seem moved to turn to His icon. Your enthusiasm & love for Our Lord & the Divine Liturgy are refreshing. Thank you!
I forgot to mention, I have watched many of your videos and have really enjoyed them. Keep up the good work. God bless! :)
Wonderful catechetical video on the Divine Liturgy! I'm in the process of converting to the Eastern Orthodox Church and can't help but notice that the liturgy of the Eastern Rite Catholic Church is almost identical to that of the Orthodox Church. You even recite in the creed that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father, rather than proceeding from the Father and the Son as those of the Latin Rite do.
Peace be upon you, Orthodox brother.
The Byzantine Catholic Church came about when Byzantivm was in grave danger. The Emperor of Constantinople pleaded with Rome to send help, so that we may not be destroyed by the Turks. The pope basically said:
"Keep your traditions, keep your churches, and keep all inside them. But accept me as the head of your Church and I will help you."
He, unfortunately, agreed. The last years of Byzantivm were not Orthodox, and we fell to the Turks anyway.
A tragedy.
To say the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father does not mean or doesn't proceed from the Father and the Son 🙃
in order to be a perfect 'bridge' between the orthodox and the rome,the ways of the Byzantine's had to be brought back exactly to the ways of the completely unchanged Orthodox.Do you see? Vatican II tried to make coming back with the Roman Pontiff more agreeable for Orthodox.So the Pope ordered the Eastern Catholics to go back to the complete traditional original of old so it would appeal to Orthodox and draw them back in communion. :)wonderful moment in history for the Eastern Catholic Churches
@Dustin Neely that is all extremely wrong. And no, they are not in opposition to one another, but can truly be understood in harmony, as they should. The Palamas vs Aquinas debate becomes no longer a debate of you understand that they were teaching on different subjects.
For this to be possible, you must recognise the Truth that lies underneath the external appearances, like the barriers of language.
For example, when Aquinas says God is "pure Act", it is because utilizes a Aristotelian language, in which Act is opposed to Potentia. In English this would be better translated as "Being" and "Becoming" respectively, meaning that God is beyond all potentiality, because he realizes perfectly in Himself all Being (there aren't any latent potencies) therefore He is pure Being. What is interesting here is that the word Being in Latin is an equivalent of the greek rooted word "Essence". Now all of this is explained by Aquinas, and he still agrees even more with Palamas, since he also says that "one can only know God through his actions"; in this latter case, action is then truly used in the more usual sense of the word, and is a Latin word equivalent to the Greek "energy", in which he is basically saying one can only know God through his energies. Aquinas know fully well that God is the immovable mover, therefore he doesn't "act" in the ordinary sense of the word, but rather is the cause of action. Since Saint Thomas makes himself clear that that is the case, the meaning of "God is pure Act" can only be understood in the Aristotelian sense (Aquinas himself being an Aristotelian), that is, that God is pure Being/pure Essence.
Now I hope this clarifies some things and inspires you to see things more clearly. Do not take the apparent for the essencial, as it happens many times in such discussions, were language and the appropriate meaning and use of words is can make big differences.
Thank you very much for a beautiful presentation.
Beautiful voice! Excellent video.
LOVE THE SAINT STEPHEN DEACON DOOR!! :D My Patron! :)
Have you done any videos on the Extraordinary form in the Roman Rite?
When I was young my friend was Ukrainian Catholic and I had the honor of attending the Liturgy. At the time it seemed so fastly different from the Roman Mass but looking at it through older eyes I see how strikingly simular the two are. Thank you for this video.
Beautiful! God bless you! I really want to attend a Divine Liturgy of the Eastern Church. It's amazing how diverse and yet united our Church is among the Mystical Body of Christ!
#27 Some Parishes read The Filioque. Also the two Parishes have kneelers where I go in Manhattan and Queens.
beautiful
I am a Roman rite Catholic, but tomorrow I will be attending a Byzantine Liturgy for the first time! This video helps me have at least a little idea of what to expect. It will definitely be a new experience, but I am looking forward to it!
Wow, this was amazing. I have been growing in a desire to find a holier celebration of the Mass. We currently attend a very casual version of the Novus Ordem with folk music. The melodies of the prayers change about once a month, so almost nobody sings or chants because they don't know what is going on. We started looking at nearby Catholic churches, and there is a Byzantine Rite church right by us! Not only was your video extremely helpful in preparing us for what to expect when we visit this Sunday, but your personality is absolutely beautiful. My children were saying throughout the video, "mom, she is just like you!" It was quite shocking how similarly we speak and move. I am also constantly struck by the beauty around me and find myself commenting on it as if I've never seen it before. Thank you so much for making this video!