Big Bang Theory Lied about Indiana Jones

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  • Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
  • The Big Bang Theory was trying to be edgy with this one but they were just wrong and the show is trash.

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  • @sparkythebuilder
    @sparkythebuilder Рік тому +9

    What about the fact that the nazi's were digging in the wrong place because they only have one side of the talisman. Also, what about the fact that without Indiana showing up to the bar the Nazi's would have likely gotten the real talismen from Marrion.

    • @thevalenzacollection5901
      @thevalenzacollection5901  Рік тому +2

      So to the first part, the film takes place in ‘36. They were digging before they had the headpiece and it’s safe to assume they would have found it before the war ended. And to the second part, that only shows how important indi is. They would have gotten it sooner if he hadn’t interfere

    • @bigeric1982
      @bigeric1982 Рік тому +1

      @@thevalenzacollection5901 Surely 🙃

    • @dansdiscourse4957
      @dansdiscourse4957 Рік тому

      No no no no. Remember how they show us the creepy Nazi in black eyeballing Indy on the plane? The Nazis were using him to lead them to Marion. That suggests that they didn't know how to find her themselves. That in turn suggests that if Indy had for some reason declined to get involved, then Marion would still have the headpiece in Nepal, the Nazis would still be digging in random places, and there's the very real possibility that the Ark would never have left its resting place in the Well of the Souls.

    • @dansdiscourse4957
      @dansdiscourse4957 Рік тому

      So, yes, for good or ill Indy's actions were consequential.

    • @youtubeistryingtocensorme
      @youtubeistryingtocensorme 2 місяці тому

      Yeah but even if Indy wasn’t there the Nazis would’ve still found Marion killed her, taken the medallion and read both sides and dug in the right place

  • @rainbowrunner1550
    @rainbowrunner1550 Рік тому +20

    Star Wars Explained also debunked the theory about how Indiana Jones doesn't affect the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not only that, but the entire point of the Indiana Jones franchise is about the adventures Indy goes on. It's not about finding the Ark of the Covenant, the Sankara Stones, the Holy Grail, or the Crystal Skull. It's the fact that Indy gains something greater out of his adventures.
    I think The Last Crusade is my favorite in that regard (about how Indy gains something greater out of his adventures), since Indy mends his strained relationship with his father. They are able to find common ground through their common goal of seeking the Holy Grail, but it's fascinating how Henry Sr. (the one who was looking for the Grail his whole life) is the one to tell Indy to let the Grail go, showing that he cares more for his son than the Grail.
    Overall, even if by some off chance, Indy wouldn't have affected the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark, you shouldn't let that detract from an awesome movie. The action is stellar, the score is top notch thanks to John Williams, and all of the characters (not just Indy, but also Marion, Sallah, and Belloq) have charming personalities.

  • @robertrhinehart4779
    @robertrhinehart4779 Рік тому +4

    The Nazis were searching for Abher Ravenwood, and the wouldn’t have found the Staff of Ra headpiece without tailing Indy to Nepal; consequently, the Nazis would have never found the Ark without Indy! Ha!!! Relevance! Take that Big Bang Theory!

  • @McFrozenNuggets
    @McFrozenNuggets 2 роки тому +14

    You breaking this down instantly enhanced the movie for me. Thanks, bro.

  • @timbuktu8069
    @timbuktu8069 Рік тому +4

    Someone once pointed out that the entire Indiana Jones saga makes a lot more sense if it's viewed chronologically from Indy's point of view. From being a smart-ass teenager stealing the Cross of Coranado to succeeding through faith to save his father. It's a story of growth and maturity.

  • @Actionfan19
    @Actionfan19 Рік тому +2

    See I always thought that without Indi, after the Nazis opened the arc it would eventually wind up in the hands of religious zealots resulting in near mass extinction of all human life.

  • @ibji
    @ibji Рік тому +7

    Fun Fact - Temple of Doom was responsible for the creation of a PG13 rating.

    • @joshuah9109
      @joshuah9109 Рік тому +1

      Yep.
      That and GREMLINS.
      They both came out in the summer of '84. Parents were outraged because both movies upset their kids.

  • @Fezezen
    @Fezezen 2 роки тому +12

    I knew this theory was short sighted the first time I heard it.

  • @perfectionbox
    @perfectionbox Рік тому +2

    And would the Nazis have ever found the Ark without Jones? Maybe by digging in every last place, but by then the war could have easily been over and cooler heads would manage the discovery. And Jones could have RPG'd the Ark but chose not to. Without him there's simply no story; he's the main driver.

    • @thevalenzacollection5901
      @thevalenzacollection5901  Рік тому +1

      Since the movie takes place in 1936, I don’t think it’s too far fetched to believe they would find it well before the war was over. Yes, Jones could have, but it would have been so out of character. It’s one of the greatest discoveries of human history, he would have done anything to preserve it. It wasn’t just about getting it out of the hands of the nazis

    • @carlosvillanueva8530
      @carlosvillanueva8530 Рік тому +1

      if it wern't for Indiana they would have purchased,(tortured her for) the staff head from Marium Rose wood and had both sides and knew exactly where to dig. Blailok is an anthropologist too. So, If Indy hadn't showed up when he did the Nazis would have had both sides of the staff head and gone directly to where they should dig instead of having Indy to show them where the Ark was. Either way same outcome, Nazi's recover the Ark... maybe a little earlier.

  • @carlosvillanueva8530
    @carlosvillanueva8530 Рік тому +2

    If Indiana Jones on the airport would have allowed the Ark to be taken to Germany, Bailok would have taken the Ark to Germany, and opened the Ark in front of Hitler and his Ranking officials that is why Hitler had them looking for the Ark in the first place. The Ark being opened would have killed everyone present just as it did in the desert. WWII would have ended when Germany lost its Nazi leadership. So, his actions lead to Hitler being spared and kept WWII going, causing hundreds and thousands of deaths, really heroic. I've heard that someone said the movie isn't about the Lost Ark, the Sankara Stones, The Holy Grail, the Crystal Skull, if this were true and the movies were about the adventures of Indiana Jones. Well then why aren't they named The Adventures of Indiana Jones, and The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones. It is literally in the title, in the story each is "Chekov's Gun" Each is the other star of the movie. He has to go to the Temple of Doom. It's kind of like listening to any other cult leader. You believe because your leader said, believe, not because what he said to believe makes any sense.

    • @imfsresidentotaku9699
      @imfsresidentotaku9699 Рік тому +2

      Even if Hitler had died, who says that would’ve stopped the Nazis from studying the Ark with caution and finding a way to harness its power and take over the world? Indy preventing that is pretty heroic. Not to mention, it’s not fair to blame Indy for not having the foresight to predict that Hitler would start a war, a move which took the world by surprise.

    • @carlosvillanueva8530
      @carlosvillanueva8530 Рік тому +1

      @@imfsresidentotaku9699 If we don't give credit where credit is due, then Amy is correct.

    • @m.j.vazquez4720
      @m.j.vazquez4720 10 місяців тому

      @@carlosvillanueva8530 thats assuming they open it infront of him and not any other people who would hanndle those things while hitler was busy with ww2 like Gustaf Kossinna or Heinrich Himmler

    • @carlosvillanueva8530
      @carlosvillanueva8530 10 місяців тому

      @@m.j.vazquez4720 I'm sure if you had a magic item that might grant you three wishes when opened it, you would let someone else be there to use the wishes. Did you let your best man test drive yur wife on your wedding night? Same logic.

    • @m.j.vazquez4720
      @m.j.vazquez4720 10 місяців тому

      @@carlosvillanueva8530lol what ? do you think hitler personally examined all the artifacts they took ? particularly do you think he would be the first to see them ?

  • @jordil6152
    @jordil6152 6 місяців тому +1

    Haven't seen the movie in a while, but wasn't Indy the one who found the Ark? If not, he did figure out that crucial staff clue. Also, I'm pretty sure they would have killed that lady back at the bar if Indy hadn't rescued her. That's really what archeology is: to be on the periphery of history rather than actually affecting it.

  • @andmicbro1
    @andmicbro1 8 місяців тому +1

    Well one, Indy knew where Marian was, and thus the headpiece needed to locate the well of souls. The Nazis didn’t know where she was, they followed Indy to her. And yeah, the rest of your other points are also valid.

  • @michaelbanes3833
    @michaelbanes3833 6 місяців тому +1

    The thing to remember is that indy is not James bond.he s not sent on a mission.he s more in the vein of john mclain in die hard,where he s more incidental to the story,and has to use his wits and intelligence to survive. That makes him very important to the story as a reluctant hero as apposed to a gung ho protagonist as most actors in this modern genre are most likely to be

  • @BlueFlash25
    @BlueFlash25 7 місяців тому

    So if he didnt blew up the plane, nazis would kill Hitler with an Ark? God dammit Indy 😅

  • @PeterHowe228
    @PeterHowe228 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for bringing up the flying wing, that is an excellent point. The two reasons I already knew was that 1. Without Indy they get the real piece and probably destroy Marion in the process and 2. If Indy isn't on the island the Nazis still get the Ark but because Indy presumably used what little communication equipment it had to reach out to an allied boat they were able to get it to the US.

  • @robertgates3906
    @robertgates3906 8 місяців тому

    I don't think the shows writers were really trying to ruin Raiders. I think a comedy tv show used a joke that would have a profound effect on the characters by spoiling something sacred to them.

  • @Statalyzer
    @Statalyzer 8 місяців тому

    This doesn't really debunk the theory, it just says "omg anyone who likes that theory must be hating on a good film for no reason". I think it's a fun theory and I also think it's a really good movie.

  • @peterb9870
    @peterb9870 6 місяців тому

    My 2 cents to this discussion. The plane was not a transport. It was a fighter bomber. Therefore, there is no room for the ark. In my opinion, the ark was just there at the airfield for no obvious reason. Spielberg probably choose that plane for ascetic reasons only.
    Indy did find the ark, and the nazis took it from him. The rest of the movie is of him trying to get it back. Without indy the ark would not have been found. Without indy trying to get the ark back. it could remain lost after the nazis opened it and melted. The ark would never ended up in the wear house.

  • @Scoonertuna
    @Scoonertuna 8 місяців тому

    The story is about Indiana Jones rediscovering his faith, learning to NOT be the man he was in ToD (If we're keeping to the timeline).
    ... Not only that, but Indie starts the movie a disbelievers only to discover the myth is real and through faith he, and Marion, survive

  • @billfickle2844
    @billfickle2844 8 місяців тому +1

    The Nepal piece is the biggest one to me. They had no idea where to find Ravenwood, they followed Indy. Also, at the end, because of Indy, the Americans get the Ark. Also, the title is Raiders of the lost Ark, Not, Indiana Jones saves the world. I mean, only in the Temple of doom does the Mcguffin get found and save the village. In Last crusade, they find the Holy grail, and it saves Sean Connery, only because they were looking for it. But the resolution is illumination for Henry SR and reconcilliation for father and son. BUt at he end of the day, Indy is the last one standing on the Island, and America get the Ark, even if they foolishly put it in a Warehouse.

  • @loganlockhart7768
    @loganlockhart7768 3 роки тому +5

    I agree with you about Raiders but you didn't have to come after Black Widow lol

  • @jesustovar2549
    @jesustovar2549 Рік тому +1

    I'm not an 80s kid but I have the luck of growing up and loving Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Back to the Future and I will show these movies to my kids (when I have kids).

  • @dicksonfranssen
    @dicksonfranssen Рік тому +1

    This is not a rant, it's common sense. It's a great action movie with no "hidden meaning" so I just don't get all the intellectual BS. Thanks for making the video short, that's all it took.

  • @tankardoftales4645
    @tankardoftales4645 Рік тому +1

    lol... That's a stilly theory... :)
    I do have to rewatch Raiders of the Lost Ark, something tells me Kubrick's the Shining is referenced in that movie. Just in case you don't know, look up the Ark and it's resting place before it was lost and check out the Gold Room in the Shining :)

  • @ericsilberstein667
    @ericsilberstein667 8 місяців тому

    The internet and social media in particular ruin everything, especially commenters.

  • @danielparedes3459
    @danielparedes3459 Рік тому +1

    So "he gave it to competent authorities for safe keeping"? ... but he was supposed to take it to a Museum and study it

  • @happybeejv
    @happybeejv 6 місяців тому

    I was a child you knew it was wrong
    -mary
    A 25 year old he knew 10 years earlier

  • @tisbutascratch9987
    @tisbutascratch9987 Рік тому +1

    But Indy would have killed Hitler with the ark

  • @tygrahof9268
    @tygrahof9268 Рік тому +1

    Meh, it was alright...there are WAY better ones, but it was fun for the times.

    • @imfsresidentotaku9699
      @imfsresidentotaku9699 Рік тому +2

      For all times. It’s more than alright. It gave us one of the greatest action heroes of all time.

  • @r.morris5589
    @r.morris5589 8 місяців тому

    The four films you said does not deserve the recognition they get, I have only heard of Black Widow that was a very bad movie.

  • @TheSleightDoctor
    @TheSleightDoctor 8 місяців тому

    So you're saying Indy stopped the Nazis from opening the ark in Berlin in front of the Fuhrer and his top generals, beheading the Third Reich and ending World War II? What a hero! Nice try, but the Big Bang Theory's theory is basically correct. Everything would have gone fine if he'd only stayed home and chased that bit of skirt at the university who fancied him so much. 😂

  • @AdrianJayeOnline
    @AdrianJayeOnline 8 місяців тому

    over 6k people dont understand a comedy TV show, sad

  • @carlcjjohnson8694
    @carlcjjohnson8694 8 місяців тому

    They turned wolverine into a soyjak

  • @rickcimino5483
    @rickcimino5483 Рік тому +1

    How did Indiana Jones and Marian get off that island?

  • @Cyril29a
    @Cyril29a 8 місяців тому +1

    Not only did Indy have no impact on his story but he extended the war. Had Beloc flown it back to Berlin it would have been opened in front of Hitler killing him and probably ending the war. Also the ark gets lost in the warehouse which is the modern equivalent of the sand storm, that is the point of that scene.... That the arc must remain lost for the sake of humanity.

    • @chbloss
      @chbloss 5 місяців тому

      No, after Berlin, possession of the ark and its power would've started an even bigger war.

  • @peteroscarson1188
    @peteroscarson1188 8 місяців тому

    And Marion would be dead.

  • @nonyabusiness8731
    @nonyabusiness8731 Рік тому +1

    Right on ! He IS the hero!!!

  • @leonardvicari2857
    @leonardvicari2857 8 місяців тому

    Raiders of the lost ark is a classic watch Siskel and Eberts review

  • @tafynotmanzo7354
    @tafynotmanzo7354 Рік тому

    Ummm they're digging in the wrong place! Without Indie no telling if the Germans every find the arc.

    • @thevalenzacollection5901
      @thevalenzacollection5901  Рік тому

      They’re like 100 feet away from the right place. It’s 1936, that was plenty of time before the war ended.

    • @tafynotmanzo7354
      @tafynotmanzo7354 Рік тому

      @thevalenzacollection5901 ever been in a desert? 100 feet might as well be 1000 miles.

    • @thevalenzacollection5901
      @thevalenzacollection5901  Рік тому

      @@tafynotmanzo7354 I have been. They’re in a city in the desert. If it’s not where they’re already digging, it’s process of elimination with the other structures. I mean, they have a map of the city.

    • @tafynotmanzo7354
      @tafynotmanzo7354 Рік тому

      @thevalenzacollection5901 bro they were positive they were digging in the right spot. You think they're just going to go to the next spot? Why need a map at all? Needle in a haystack mean anything?

    • @thevalenzacollection5901
      @thevalenzacollection5901  Рік тому

      @@tafynotmanzo7354 it’s reasonable to assume that when they’ve uncovered the place they’re looking in and find nothing, they’d go back to the map room and re-assess their information. They had hundreds of workers. They’d find it.

  • @andrewbrown1740
    @andrewbrown1740 2 роки тому +3

    Oh thank God, thank you for this

  • @CDJCMstryker
    @CDJCMstryker 3 роки тому +3

    Facts

    • @carlosvillanueva8530
      @carlosvillanueva8530 Рік тому

      "You can have your own theories but you can't have your own facts". If Hitler believed that "He who controls the Ark, has god's favor" and thereby wins the war. Would he ever have let the Ark be opened without him being present, if the Ark were in Germany would Hitler let Bailok open the Ark without being present? Would Hilter have paid all that money only to have the power of god fall into someone else's hands? Yes, Indiana Jones saved Hitler's life and kept WWII going by his actions at the airport, he actually caused the death of, hundreds of thousands of people with the way the story is written. Facts.

  • @catpin
    @catpin 8 місяців тому +1

    I never watched the Big Bang Theory show

    • @chbloss
      @chbloss 5 місяців тому

      It was just a laugh track with little bits of dialogue.

  • @patricklarsen182
    @patricklarsen182 Рік тому +3

    The theory that he does nothing makes no sense

    • @carlosvillanueva8530
      @carlosvillanueva8530 Рік тому +2

      Nobody said he doesn't do anything, what they say is that what he does has no effect on what happens, the same things take place this isn't true. At the dig's airport what he does causes Bailock to open the Ark in the desert instead of back in Germany. If the Ark would have gone to Germany, Hitler believing that the power to control God's favor was in the Ark, never would have allowed the Ark to be opened without him attending, because he wouldn't want God's favor controlled by anyone other than himself, would have called his upper court and allies together to watch him r,eceive the favor of God. Everyone there would have died like the Nazi's in the desert did. So Indy saved Hitler's life, continued WWII, and killed hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, Japanese people, Americans ,French, British peoples because in saving Hitler's life in 1939(when the movie is set), everything that happens after that is on Indy's head, because he saved Hitler.

    • @Forout
      @Forout 7 місяців тому

      ​@@carlosvillanueva8530 without following Indy to Nepal they wouldve never found the medallion, end of theory

    • @carlosvillanueva8530
      @carlosvillanueva8530 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Forout Did they not already have Dr. Ravenwood's name and location? Nazis would have asked Dr. R and found out where the head piece was anyway. Also note she was willing to sell the head piece.

    • @Forout
      @Forout 7 місяців тому

      @@carlosvillanueva8530 they had his name, not his location, the intercepted message the government agents show to Indy read "Ravenwood, United States" so they didnt know he was in Nepal

    • @carlosvillanueva8530
      @carlosvillanueva8530 7 місяців тому

      @@Forout Ravenwood was in the United States, his daughter was in Nepal. They knew where Ravenwood was. So, nothing he did changed the outcome at that point. All Indy did was save the Nazis a step, the outcome would have been the same. that is the point that the Big Bang theory is making, everything Indy does really changes nothing, he might as well not have been in the story.

  • @ericsilberstein667
    @ericsilberstein667 8 місяців тому

    He dated a 12 yr old?

  • @MichaelGerrard
    @MichaelGerrard 6 місяців тому

    Well said.

  • @906087
    @906087 8 місяців тому

    Fair enough

  • @marksievert5237
    @marksievert5237 Рік тому +4

    You failed to disprove the Big Bang Theory.

    • @RoJoBBandG
      @RoJoBBandG 8 місяців тому +2

      Technically, if Indy hadn't been involved, the Ark would've went straight to Berlin without testing. Hitler may have bern present at the initial test, meaning WWII may have been averted or at least changed. Dammit, Indy!

    • @cheeseburger12
      @cheeseburger12 8 місяців тому

      ​@@RoJoBBandGThe Germans only found the Ark because of Indy.

    • @Forout
      @Forout 7 місяців тому +1

      Without following Indy on the plane to Nepal, they would've never found the medallion. Theory disproven

  • @nick4msi
    @nick4msi 2 роки тому +3

    Not a solid argument

  • @AdrianJayeOnline
    @AdrianJayeOnline 8 місяців тому

    BBT is not gospel or cannon, its a TV show for comedic value, get over it

    • @chbloss
      @chbloss 5 місяців тому

      Would love to but unfortunately idiots keep parroting it like it's gospel or cannon.